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1wolex85:
Yes sir I agree.

Good. Now consider: to withdraw N120k from my ATM to pay artisans, provisions seller, iya alata, etc, it costs me nothing ( if I use my bank's ATM) . But to use electronic banking, I would pay a commission of N105 per transaction .

Which option, cash versus electronic, do you think I would prefer for small transactions then?

Who then, masses or CBN, is guilty of not being serious about making Nigeria truly cashless?

More to the point of your question: how we avoid thia next year is to be much further along the cashless curve. That, contrary to your position, is primarily up to the CBN. I can propose any number of policy adjustments, but I need you to agree first:

CBN has not done enough to encourage - and is in fact, arguably discouraging - faster migtation to a cashless system. In the interim, Joe Citizen is entitled to his CBN-fixed N150k per day, and if the banks can't make that happen, they're failing their clients.

1wolex85:
Sir, this thing can work if we want to make it work. IT is the will we need. Ok let me ask, what do you suggest we do as a country so that we do not find ourselves on this kind of thread next year? Print more cash?

Print more cash? Don't condescend.

Lets walk through this together. To encourage the cashless policy, there's a daily limit that is now effectively N120k (20k,6 withdrawals) , no?

This means that any Nigerian now cannot access more than N120k-N150k cash in hand every day, but conversely, can reasonably expect to have a RIGHT to get that amount from the ATM.

Do you agree so far?

1wolex85:
I am not digging myself into anywhere. You are the one that has failed to see the opportunity but would rather see all the challenges. Again, I have not asked for total elimination of cash, I am saying there are people on those queues who should be encouraged to use other channels

Iwolex85, you sound like a nice guy. I think you should take a deep breath, calmly read through this thread again, and reflect. I like that you haven't taken the bait when insults are hurled at you, but I can see what most of those guys are saying. Not everyone arguing with you is ignorant of the issues. I can in fact propose an explanation for what we're witnessing (someone thinks festivities = more cash in circulation = armed robbers) but there are levels of reasoning, and some trump others. You're relying too much on hypotheticals while not being cognizant enough of what actually obtains right now. With that, I wish you a Merry Xmas, and goodbye.

1wolex85:
That is the crux of the matter. They need to be banked.Besides on this thread we are talking about atm queues which means those on the queue have account.

Don't you get it? Most of those on the queues need the cash to pay those in that 80% (can't speak to the veracity of this figure).

And you say "they need to get banked". Just like that? The more you post on this topic, the more you dig yourself in...

1wolex85:
Oga, I will say what I want to say. If more people use other channels there will be less people at the ATM. You guys are talking like this is the first time long queues are appearing at atms, it happens every Xmas maybe not to the extent of this year and if the people at CBN think like the way most of you are thinking it will still happen next year

Even when what you want to say is myopic? You're welcome to it then.

Edit: your submissions reminds me of a description of Microsoft in an old joke:"technically sound, but practically useless". Your submissions are built on hypotheticals, and don't seem cognizant of what ACTUALLY obtains in Nigeria today. And don't even imply that I am not forward-thinking. If you think so, I will be happy to explain to you where you (and the CBN) have gotten it wrong.

1wolex85:
You are still not getting my point. There is a cash shortage which is absolutely cbn' s fault but as long as other channels are working, you can't say people are deliberately being prevented from accessing their money.

STOP SAYING THIS. People should get their money in the form in which it is useful. I personally carried out transactions worth hundreds of thousands of naira online this last week, but for other transactions, the appropriate tender is paper money. If you don't allow me get my money in that form, you are denying me access (notwithstanding the fact that I can do other transactions in cashless format).

1wolex85:
I have not said you can do it today that is why I have blamed CBN for not making a simple thing possible. I also had an experience at GTBank in Festac when money finished at the ATM. I am not saying it's a good thing rather am I advocating total elimination of cash transactions. What I am saying is that it is the cbn' s fault that there is a cash shortage but it is wrong to say they have denied us access to our money because it is not true

While advocating a cashless system, simply acknowledge that it is insane to make people suffer before getting their money. And remember, there are already cashless-friendly limits in place, e. g. 120k withdrawal limit. You don't need to muddle the point up by making endless references to what we all know is the ideal (future) setup.

And what do you mean by saying they haven't denied acccess to money? I went to an ATM go get some cash, and had to retreat home empty-handed. What do you call that?

1wolex85:
Oga please read again! I can still transfer money on my phone without internet! and Yes if I go to Mile 12, as long as the aboki has an account number, I can buy pepper

Chief, why don't you relax?

We know it's possible in principle , trivial even, to transfer money by phone. The question is: can you do it today? You can't.

Making people queue endlessly to access their own money is madness, pure and simple. I had a surreal exchange with a colleague on OAU campus who, after waiting at the ATM, walked to the counter to withdraw his own money and was told he could not withdraw more than N10, 000.

I don't know what the hell is going on, but if it is a policy, someone must be off his meds.

shestrong:
dats ur opinion

Hey, smart aleck, obviously, I stated my opinion, not yours . So what's your point again?!

OBAGADAFFI:
Oga, their are Photoshoot for the whole family, Photoshoot for the friends of the family/celebrant and Photoshoot for specifically for the celebrants kids.

A matured mind should know where to belong.

What is it with this dude?
Your comprehension skills are obviously insufficient to give you the gist of my post, so why don't you stop quoting me, and quote someone else?
I have nothing else to say to you; please face your lane.

OBAGADAFFI:
Wrong, in a proper ceremony when call is made for the children of the celebrants photoshoot, it is strictly for children of the celebrants and not in-law.

The reasons for that are memorial.
The wife should have respected herself and wait for invitations before joining them.


It's not her husband's family event and not her husband's.

Don't say I'm wrong when you don't even understand what I'm saying.

Hint: I'm saying exactly the same thing you're saying, only adding that sometimes, when a daughter-in-law insists on gatecrashing, two sets are taken.

everhopeful:
@op: Your wife seems to me like good woman. I believe that during your traditional wedding, your wife was told that your mother is now her mother and your family is now her family, and it seems your wife wholeheartedly took those words literally, believed this and acted accordingly since you said she has a good relationship with your mother.

Your action just told her the reality and don't be surprised when she actually starts treating your family as different from hers because that was the message you guys clearly passed across: that your mother is not her mother and can never be.

Your home is yet young, so please do not destroy it with carelessness. Your primary interrst shouldn't be about rights or wrong but about the fact that your wife felt hurt by the exclusion, which may have been reduced if she wasn't the only spouse in law as this may otherwiise have reduced the impact of the exclusion.

If really your priority is in making your home work and not on people taking sides, I would advise that you apologise to your wife and let her know you consider her a part of your family. Tell her you naively thought it was just a picture and didn't think she would be hurt.

May God bless and keep your home.

Your post is a very sensible one, and reflects how many wise people would approach this matter.

BUT:

Other wise people differ.

OP was not being careless, neither was his family being unreasonable. He does not need to apologize to his wife. There's been a disagreement, but this is not one of those I'm-right-you're-wrong things.

If push comes to shove, I'd say the family is 100% right. When a man marries a good woman, and she's welcomed and told she's now family, nobody takes that to mean that she's now a biological daughter! And neither does she need to become a biological daughter to act as one! Would she for example insist on being recognized by name in the will (for example) of her father-in-law as a child Maturity and careful reflection should help a woman determine in such cases when to assert herself, and when to pipe down.

I've witnessed similar scenarios on numerous occasions, and indeed, there's usually the daughter-in-law who insists she's now family. Often, two sets of pictures are taken, one with the children, and the other with (wink, wink) all the children. It's all fun, usually, but remember, when push comes to shove, she's NOT a biological daughter, and that's perfectly fine. She does not (as you imply) need to see herself as a de jure biological daughter to act as a de facto one.

shestrong:
JUST BEFORE U CRITICISE THAT PASTOR;
*REMEMBER HE'S PROBABLY BEARING BURDENS HE CNNOT TELL YOU ABOUT
*REMEMBER HE WILL BE BY UR BEDSIDE PRAYING IF U WR SICK
*REMEMBER THE LORD SAID WE SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THEM hebs13vs7
*REMEMBER NO PASTOR ON EARTH IS PERFECT
*REMEMBER HE IS GOD'S SHEPHERDING GIFT TO UR LIFE
*REMEMBER THE SACRIFICE HE MAKES TO BE IN THE MINISTRY

Pray for your church and it's pastoral staff that they truly may "Be shepherds of God's flocks... 1peter 5vs2

None of the above is a sufficient excuse for what we see nowadays.
There's no more potent anti-evangelical force right now than the lifestyle and utterances of many of these self-styled "Men of God".

AnonyNymous:
See guy abeg. . .If you have gained just 1 kobo from MMM, you are partially responsible for the deaths of all the people that will commit suicide because it crashed. So take your nonsense and go. *spits*

Their excuse is poverty, but just like any other get-rich-quick scheme, it's really all about greed and naiveté.
I have no idea why the fellow you quoted is shouting "hypocrisy". A fool and his money are soon parted. It's pathetic really.

Seun or any of the mods should please remove the accident pix.

progress69:
U are actually right. I understand u perfectly. I guess i fall to this category. My bad even though i am not the OP. But i accept exactly what u insuanated here.

Thanks for being so honest. All the best in your future endeavors!

slimfresh:
how can you start mentioning virus wn OP said nothing about virus just because I intentionally desist from pointing out that logical set back doesn't meant it was unoticed.... How can someone have a viral Infection and link it with toilet? Who does that? Besides read through my comment properly you will notice the huge difference in our reasoning.

Medical personnel trying to clear misconceptions needs to be careful not to compound the problem. Many illiterates trust their doctors less because they say "there is nothing called jedijedi!" when the man is experiencing something, which Iya Al'agunmu called jedijedi and promptly "cured" using concoctions*.

Plebs are not fools. It may take longer to explain, but be straight with them. In the above case, rather than shout "there is nothing called toilet disease", it is much better to explain "what you call toilet disease is really an almagam of non-STI infections that you may get if you don't follow recommended toilet-use practices. However, you cannot get STIs through the toilet".

And to address the elephant in the room, "doctors" like the OP sometimes make outrightly false statements! From his post: "but the fact is that, the so-called toilet infections are not infections gotten from toilets". This is dismissive, and it is wrong! It is true that many ladies hide under this term to explain away STI's but his statement fails to accept that non-STI infections can arise from toilet use, and insults generations of ladies!

My medico friends, please be more responsible as you try to enlighten the public. Thank you.

* I suggest instead, telling your patients something like this: "what you call jedijedi is actually an almalgam of different conditions, and until we test you, we won't know which one of them ails you"

proffemi:
Please state your qualifications, and I will state mine...doofus.

I see that none of our initial set of "doctors" have been kind enough to tell us where they serve as consultants. While your so-called plebs can nurse irritating theories and cling obstinately to superstition, don't make the mistake of assuming there aren't any intelligent people outside of clinical practice.

PaperLace:
Maybe toilet infection is a layman's term, probably they have a professional name for it in their medical lexicon but it exist. How do we explain e-coli which is gotten from the faeces via wiping in the wrong direction?

Don't mind (some of*) them.

Possible scenario:
- lady goes to toilet
- lady cleans up wrong way (or otherwise compromises integrity of vagina)
- "wrong" bacteria/organisms introduced
- vaginal pH destabilized etc
- symptoms result (note: not all discharges are caused by STI)
- lady concludes she has "toilet disease"


* I never said STI's can be transmitted through toilet seats. For the avoidance of doubt, if what your woman has is an STI, it *probably* wasn't from the toilet. But here's the thing: itching and discharges are not only caused by STI, so, if those are the symptoms your woman has, it *could* have been from the toilet, e.g. through the scenario I painted above.

Doctors, show me the error in my post (after kindly stating your qualification, thank you).

BoboYekini:
Right there is why you need to STFU..

Please state your qualifications, and I will state mine...doofus.

NairaMaster1:
Toilet won't give anybody infection. There's nothing quackery here except for your myopia. Have a teachable spirit. Let no woman deceive you including that your suppose virgin sister or babe.

To be clear, this is the sort of talk I object to: implying that any lady who has a vaginal infection has done something wrong. What sort of responsible doctor would make this sort of statement (especially when what it implies is wrong)

repogirl:
please shut up until you have a vágina . We are women and we have experienced these things first hand, so if you are talking about ITKs, you should be talking to yourself.

God bless you.

Could all medical personnel weighing in on this topic kindly state their qualifications? I suspect most of them are clinical students (I doubt that they are even reg's).

To be pedantic, yes, there really is nothing like "toilet disease", just as "jedijedi" does not exist. However, to imply that Vaginosis is always caused by sex... come on. I'm not even a medical doctor, or a woman, and even I can call you out on that bullshit.

Please don't destroy relationships with this careless talk (another thing that makes me suspect you guys are clinical students. I doubt that anyone who has taken the Hippocratic Oath would be so cavalier about doling out what amounts to - at best- be incomplete information).

SamaOnPoint:
Thank you for this news post on Adeleye's arrest on the orders of the Unilag management.

Permit me to shed more light on the 'rustication/suspension' of a student.

In any letter of 'rustication/suspension' from any tertiary institution in Nigeria and the world over, the following would be stated explicitly in the letter:

1. that such student had seized to be a student of the institution;

2. that such student MUST vacate the premises of the institution;

3. that such student MUST not be seen in the university premise;

4. that such student MUST submit all university property(ies) in his/her custody to the university management;

5. the duration of such student's rustication/suspension from the institution.

In the case of Adeyeye, the news post above has stated that he was 'trailed and arrested in front of the university gate'.

I want to believe the front of the University Gate is part of the university premise.

Thus to answer the question: 'what was he arrested for?'

He was arrested for trespassing into the university premise, for as long as his rustication is still on, he is a 'persona non grata' on that campus.

As comrades, we should be enlightened and vast in our knowledge of legal issues.

Adeyeye would have NEVER been arrested if he was attending the purported meeting outside the campus of the university.

This.

na2016:
@Guitarlife:

First, you don't publish a journal. You publish an article on a journal.

Now to your question, write the said professor an email drawing his attention to what you noticed online. Copy the Doc the email. If after one (1) week you didn't recieve any reply from them, write an official letter to the Ethics Committee of that Professor's new University. Plagiarism is a very serious offence and that Professor wouldn't want to loose his job.

[Head shake] Nope. There's been no plagiarism here. If OP does what you're suggesting, he will look like a big fool.

Guitarlife:
Some years ago I published a journal .

I was listed as the main author together with my major supervisor for my masters lets say Dr. B, I also listed Prof. C as a secondary author.
Now Prof C. Has moved to another school and immediately I recieved the pdf copy of the journal I forwarded it to Prof. C. Just to notify him...
Please advise

First things first. The right term to use is not journal. Paper, perhaps.

I do not see any issue here, other than the prof in question making himself look like a jackass. Once he is listed as an author - primary, secondary, tertiary or whatever - he is a co-author of the work, and is entitled to claim it as (partly) his. Listing himself as the principal or sole author online while accompanying with a pdf that says otherwise makes him look like a jackass. Omitting your name entirely makes him look [insert very offensive synonym for stupid].

So, there's no plagiarism, just jackassery (new word alert). You're safe, because the original journal carrying the paper has the names in the right order, right? Also, is there a print version from the journal, or a journal website with the original? This is your safety net, in case he tries to get smarter. As things stand, NOTHING stops you from parading yourself as the main author of the work (to answer your question, nope, the fact that he's uploading the document everywhere does not in any way diminish your right to the work).

Nnannapat:
...Obasanjo tried to put this country on the path of progress but later turned around and destroyed those gains. Obasanjo imposed Yaradua on us after failing to secure a third term...With the exception of Yaradua, all of them performed well below expectations.

Guy, your post is self-contradictory.

You end by implying that Yar-Adua was (would have been) a good president, but the "imposition" of this same Yar Adua was one OBJ's gravest mistakes (by your submission). That's inconsistent. Do you not think there is a better narrative: that OBJ "headhunted" Yar Adua as the best of available choices to succeed him, and allowed the PDP political machinery to do whatever it did to ensure that choice (which you and others here tacitly or overtly endorse) came to power? If your facts tell you that OBJ was a good leader, be bold enough to embrace that conclusion. Otherwise, be less self-contradictory about why he was a failure. Just saying.

DropShot:
Dice it as you like, the OP is a mediocre by not knowing he was suppose to report to the police first. And guess what?, I'm not in Nairaland to make e-friends. I don't pat weak, incompetent, docile "managers" on the back. Deal with it!

Here's one of life's nice ironies. You say the OP is a mediocre because of his poor grammar and request for advice, but you're not looking much better yourself. The part in bold font above is a fallacy of the worst sort. I.e. not knowing he's supposed to report a case == he's mediocre. I am a teacher, and I do not suffer fools gladly myself, but there is a place, time and manner to make your point, and I do not think this is it. My 2c.

DropShot:
I'm far older than 37. Try again!

Well sir, you're not acting it. You may be a manager, but you appear to lack decorum.
Your first post was unnecessarily harsh. I am in a position where I am forced to be a judge of character often, and folks who speak like you tend to be presumptuous and be liable to make mistakes. Reporting to the police is one option open to OP, but that's not necessarily the only option. A wise man makes his choices only after he is confident he knows all viable options.

Blackberrybabes:
This is what a typical classroom should like. This is an European University and you can see that almost everyone in thn Apple Laptop for that matter. But here we rejoice when the Government presents us with one laptop or when another country presents our anti-graft agency with 6 laptops..

We are getting there one day.
http://www.blackberrybabes.com/2016/08/see-european-university-classroom-with.html

Hell no.

This is not what a *typical* classroom should be. Don't fall for the same line of thinking that led to the ill-advised Opon Imo of gov. Aregbesola. "High-tech" does not necessarily equal effective achievement of intended learning outcomes. Some classes will benefit from the use of laptops, but MOST will not, especially classes with a lot of mathematical formalism or abstraction. For those, laptops/slides are effective for passing across complex visualizations or demos, and little else. You'll be surprised how many top universities still hold the venerable chalkboard in hallowed esteem

Stupedinluv:
Sigh. Those "very best students" have always existed since pre- independence, yet there is no enough evidence to prove they are even good.
What criteria do you use in knowing good students? Those who read other people's theories or those who attend to details? Sigh, and they are not smart enough to apply their "intelligence" here? cheers

I think my job work here is done. All the best.

Stupedinluv:
Before you go let me tell you what Nigerians are only good in

1 Speaking grammar
2 Copying others to impress
3 Consuming

The enlightened people you wrote about, fall under 1 and 2.

We lack smart people in this country.

What we need is "smartness"

We need people who study how their environment works before creating anything. We live in a real world not a make-believe one.

At this point, Africa needs smart brains to make things work here not "lets just copy first" people with no direction.

cheers

Hmm. Having taught in a university for a while, and having met the very best students in Nigeria and in America, trust me when I say you are completely wrong. Have a little more faith in your country, and use Google a little more.

Stupedinluv:
You should have replied my post. You know i am right! We are just mere copy cats, no wonder we are "useless" to the global world. Cheers

Don't be so negative, lady. I wanted to avoid going into long stories. It turns out that I knew a little about this young man's work while he was a student in OAU. The remote laboratories he developed might not have set the world on fire, but they were original. As in nothing-like-it-anywhere-in-the-world original. That was no copy-copy.

As to his robotics work: EVERYBODY everywhere in the world does some copy-copy, because that's largely what the scientific method is all about. Replicate previous results (or at least, get familiar with them), and extend. He "copied" only as much as the scientific method entails. What he did with the "copied" work was original. As in nothing-like-it-anywhere-in-the-world original.

To respond to your assertion: Nigerians are not just mere copycats; we are not useless to the world. We may not have enough enlightened folks to make a dent, but we do have them. Here's hoping their ranks swell enough to make a difference in the years ahead.