₦airaland Forum

ogugua88:
Bros mi oooo, I still dey wonder why you backed up claims of male birth control pills with articles referring to testosterone shots.

because the testosterone gel + injections of dp have been proven to work to that effect.

the article suggests unapproved use of the gel (though for a different reason) on patients.

Whats missing is a industry backed product. Since most of the studies conducted were done so years ago and there is use of it in china and india its safety has already been confirmed. If a pharmaceutical were to produce the injections it will be of the same combination but under a different name.

Just like a cure for cancer if one desperately needs it one can get it and a doctor can easily prescribe the two (and advise use of the right quantity). Of course like i said before its unapproved and its not marketed for that reason, but its still available and i wouldnt be too surprised if there are many using it for that reason.

ziccoit:
^^^^^
That era is gone. Jega has stated that by 2010 electoral act, no party is being paid by INEC anymore. So, no business

O meeehn i missed! kaiii!

This sounds like gang violence- if he wasnt stabbed he'd have probably done the stabbing. thats the life in camberwell for you

Natasha ARE YOU BEING SERIOUS?? You honestly think i edited wikipedia? O gurl im actually just gonna ignore you, go on wikipedia and source the infor urself. Wikipedia has references. I doubt you know anything, like i said before just because a drug isnt on the news ,doesnt mean it dont exist!

@ ajanlekoko your probably right, but isnt 40 too old for a mid life??

in all honesty i think they should get rid of these people- we dont need over 30 ministers. it doesnt make any sense. let states deal with thier own health, education, power and development and there can be a federal body overseeing all with constant input from the lower house of reps.

These job titles are draining funds and creating more disdain for political representatives. Its also creating avenues for corruption and leading to tyranny- since every body wants to be a politician to swallow money??

I see jonathan isnt going to change anything. Well done OBJ you have outdone Gaddafi.

we are shifting away from the koko-oro

the koko oro nisiyin. . . is how im going to start a party, how much and how often will inec be paying me??

I have to get at it right away!

Multiple male hormonal contraceptive protocols have been developed. One is a combination protocol, involving injections of Depo-Provera to prevent spermatogenesis, combined with the topical application of testosterone gel to provide hormonal support.[23][24] Another is a monthly injection of testosterone undecanoate, which recently performed very well in a Phase III trial in China.[25][26]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_contraceptive

you ever heard of 'off label use'??

I will ignore the lamentations, you obviously dont know as much as you claim. Like mentioned, the combination works well to prevent spermatogenisis, with no extensive side effects.

Theyve deceloped this since 1992 and the same combination has been proven in ove 10 countries.

If someone desperately needed male contraception it wouldnt be difficult for a doctor to prescribe it.

@aminalib-- you wont because its not official, it hasn been approved and it hasnt been picked up by a pharmaceutical yet, mostly because there was problems with compliance. But it has long been proven that the combination works to decent effect.

lastpage:
^^^^ Alhaja Queenssmith! Before you start "hammering" Nigerians, could you also spare a thought for the environment we live in?
For example, if it were in Europe/America, you will get "funding" for all those "community projects" you mentioned but pray me, where will the man get funding, even if his head is busting with ideas?

Hmmm.,.,. no be Yams, over here o! No support at all, everyone is O-Y-O! On Your Own!!

Most things tha work over there, dont even "start" over here.

And again, at 40yrs, you canot not "gamble" with your future, "odd, here-and-there" is like playing with one's "old age"!
Remember that there is "No Welfare/Benefits" for the elderly over here, we just allow them to die of hunger!
Thats how "humane" we are!

lol this is the problem, as a 40 year old lawyer i assumed he has already established enough contacts/experience to enable him to ask for govt funding.

ok so the guy is 6ft. . . . . how long is the. . . . . . . . . . ??

o kandikane . . . . . o andikane HOW was her hair done?? I tried to do it today it was a mess!!!!!!lol

[quote author=jesus. link=topic=665393.msg8338736#msg8338736 date=1305643400]My sister. Maa wo n ti e.

What have we benefited directly from Nigeria Govt? Elctricity? Good health care, good roads, Security of Lives and properties? Someone please tell me if im missing something.

For the first time Ever in NIgeria, Babatunde Raji Fashola is the only Person that came close. I repeat came close to allowing residents of Lagos State to have something to point to as dividends of Democracy. Yet there's still many things that are yet to be done. Tinubu wasted 8 years in Lagos same way OBJ wasted our destiny for 8 Years

The only thing we directly benefit is subsidy of PMS which to many its still high at N65/litre for a country that is blessed with abundance of Crude oil.

The Niger Delta that is supplying the wealth is not even enjoying anything they are blessed with. SMH[/quote]can u imagine!

this is exactly what i DONT understand! so are you people saying at the current price of fuel, the thing is subsidized? if its not subsidised nko??
Do these people not want ANYBODY to eat? Its hard enough, people are still dying of preventable and controllable diseases in that country, basic needs and requirements arent even being met and some people want to make life even HARDER?


Im never going to understand Nigerians. . . . . . . . . . . .never smh

@ poster- I bought the city and guilds careers book for a friend of mine who is a bit confused too. Unfortunately the average nigerian mind is limited when it comes to occupations- lawyer, doctor pastor politian. . . . . . . .if only the world ran on these things alone!

couldnt find a link to the book im afraid, but i think this should do:


http://www.amazon.co.uk/-Z-Careers-Jobs-Susan-Hodgson/dp/0749443863/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1305671145&sr=8-16

at your age- youve probably acquired alot of experience; have you considered helping others? doing community development projects? odd pro bona here and there?
Thats something to definitely look at too. and though it will be completely different you wont have to study!

koastar:
This must be a PHD thesis, even Prof Jega would not know this without doing expo
Don't you know they are depending on the money given to them by INEC- tax payer's money? This is waste of money, INEC should scrap them very fast!

NO?? i didnt know! lol what is INEC paying them for?? is it alot of money?? in that case i better go and start my own political party!

Can you imagine!!!

In London, if you want to clean the windows of a school, you will have undertaken a government approved course in window cleaning, health and safety auditing, a full background and credit check and a PQQ assessment. All in all it will probably take a good 6 months for a brand new company to receive sufficient authorization and approval to clean the windows of a school which you probably wont be paid more than 100 pounds for! Now compare that to a company laying A WHOLE GAS PIPELINE and being paid 1.3 billion naira for it doing a shoddy job?

me thinks we need a complete reform of this government and its habits of awarding contracts.

enyojo:
We need mergers and acqusitions in the political terreins also.
4 will do.

I dont see why we should limit political parties in the first place? Alternative views is fundamental to any ruling system/ Its not doing any harm why cant they be left alone?

Things like this mae me question democracy as a whole, isnt the whole point of a democratic government providing its citizens to chose its administration?

Now how is scrapping parties giving the people any sort of choice?

Wont it be better if we quit deceiving ourselves and simply give in to the elitist autocracy? Even in the countries non performance the same party has been ruling for almost 20 years now? Prior to that Nigerians never chose anything

Whats the end point?

Kobojunkie:
Here's the kicker . , . they have been given you exactly ALL OF THE ABOVE for DECADES but you still keep blaming the bank for your woes.

I beg of you to tell me how what where and when.

Its neva to late bebe!

Just need to make sure you can still provide for the family whilst your pursuing your new career. At 40 most are just settling in to their ideal roles anyways.

[quote author=jesus. link=topic=665393.msg8336797#msg8336797 date=1305625426]When, where or how has the Nigerian government done those characters in bold? can please give an 'emperical' proof?

NB i mean[b] 'empirical'[/b] proof[/quote]I swear if an outsider was reading that they will think Nigeria is the best place to be!

Rimbaldi:
quote from oguggua
"It doesn't affect sperm production. It stops the muscles from contracting and releasing sperm. The effects of that usually go away in half a day and the muscles are good to go again."


Meeen! This is just like a woman having a really good fawk without ogazm. What's good about that? Why in the world will I wanna have a good bang and not crown it with the good old splash! Beats me!

i dont think thats true tbh- Penile muscles are fundamental to sex?

enough jibber jabber---

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3167090.stm


Depo-Provera is the brand name for a 150 mg aqueous injection of DMPA depot medroxyprogesterone acetate currently available but marketed as a 'female contraceptive'



Advice on how doctors can prescribe testosterone gel,
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/405823_4

Until retail production of a testosterone gel is commercially available, physicians might be able to use preparations made by compounding pharmacists. It is essential that the prescribing physician keep in mind the great inter- and intra-patient variability in the absorption of topical gels. Some men might not satisfactorily absorb testosterone through the skin at all, necessitating that parenteral methods be used instead. It is the responsibility of the treating physician to ascertain the effectiveness of these preparations by appropriate measurement of the serum levels in each patient. Finally, it is essential that the family physician spend time with his hypogonadal patient explaining not only the benefits and limitations of treatment but also safety issues. Some hypogonadal men will not respond to testosterone therapy with improved sexual function.[43,44] It is critically important that the patient understand that his treatment regimen is designed to offer him many benefits that do not simply begin and end with sexual performance.

now lets suppose for some strange reason; a dude needed injectable contraceptives. . . . . . .how hard will i REALLY be?

Summary of effects of the combination in men;

http://www.childsupportanalysis.co.uk/analysis_and_opinion/choices_and_behaviours/male_contraception_details_references.htm

natasha:
erm actually, as a health researcher in England, i CAN categorically tell you for a fact that MALE PILLS do NOT exist. Research is been carried out at present by pharmaceutical companies to develop hormonal methods for men as the only form of protection men can self administer are Vasectomy or/and Condoms.
see the link below for my evidence. your friend is playing with her life because she's having unprotected intercourse with a pathologically liar, a guy who may as well be bleeping a whole bunch of other girls. She should tread with caution.

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/male-contraceptive-pill/Pages/Introduction.aspx

LOL you better step up on your research skills gurl, theres no time for that in ENGLAND

the drug exists, i was trying to dig my closet for the review on it but 2 years is a long time- im sure you can find it on OVID with all your RESEARCH FACILITIES!

the drug has been around for at least 10 years. . . . not to say the guy is telling the truth.

All i remember was the issue of compliance- im guessing pharmaceuticals didnt want to pick it up cos they knew men wont use it.

Just because a drug isnt marketed and advertised on the newspaper doesnt mean it doesnt exist!

think she lost the weight and cut her hair for a movie role. Once she grown her hair back she'll look even more gorgeous. people just arent used to it yet.

Well done uche i know its not easy meeehn!

jesus has a point, if they remove the subsidy, nothing will change- theyll j ust bring another story.

So who exactly is being subsidised here because fuel is still very expensive??

Only black men take pride in bringing black women down, you see that with NO other race! You never see an asian man bringing down asian women, you'll never hear a white man say anything bad about 'white women' or a japanese man for that matter even arab men in all thier chauvanism respect thier women dearly. Only black men, smh

O yee of. Little understanding! lol. People have been buying phase 3 medication in the us before lorenzos oil becme a movie, not every drug is headlined in the newspaper- and will only be soo if a big pharmaceutical was marketing it.

ogugua88:
Okay, so where did I say it doesn't exist? I said it isn't available for public consumption. That includes the United States.

It doesn't affect sperm production. It stops the muscles from contracting and releasing sperm. The effects of that usually go away in half a day and the muscles are good to go again.

Im sure the drug is available in the states, only because the states have a history of selling drugs that havent been thoroughly reveiwed. Its not unheard of.

Diligence:
I watched Aljazeera - u know what - they're already in denial! Callg such allegation 'disrespectful'.

aljezeera is bias, watch russian news instead. I wont be surprised if its owned by one of bushes golf buddies.

You'll be surprised how much ur mind will switch by simply changing the channel!

God help these people, if someone like myself was ever elected leader- and IMF and world bank and the lot of them will never see thier cash again!

These people know very well the money will be misused and stolen yet they still continue to lend. Thats bad banking practice! lol

If they wanted to do us any favors, rather than give us money they will give us drugs, specialized man hours, materials and resources for infrastructure and other humanitarian aids.