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[color=#000000]Lionel Messi wins fight to register himself as trademark[/color]

A European court has ruled that Lionel Messi, the world's top earning footballer, can trademark his own name.

The Barcelona and Argentina striker fought a seven-year fight to be able to use his name on sports goods.

His original application was challenged by the Spanish cycling brand, Massi, which argued that the names were too similar and would cause confusion.

But the EU's General Court ruled that the footballer was too well known for confusion to arise.

The ruling comes days after France Football magazine reported Mr Messi had overtaken Cristiano Ronaldo as the highest earner in football, with an income of €126m (£108m).




Mr Ronaldo is making €94m, the magazine said.

'Fame'

Mr Messi's application to trademark his name was made to the European Union Office for Intellectual Property (EUIPO) in 2011.

It ruled against the footballer, saying the names were similar, because their dominant elements, "consisting of the terms 'Massi' and 'Messi', are almost identical visually and phonetically".

EUIPO said that only some people would be aware the two were different.

But the General Court, the EU's second highest court, disagreed.

It said on Thursday: "The football player's fame counteracts the visual and phonetic similarities" with Massi.

"Mr Messi is, in fact, a well-known public figure who can be seen on television and who is regularly discussed on television or on the radio," the court said.

Widely considered one of the world's greatest soccer players, Mr Messi, 30, scored his 600th professional goal last month and is the all-time highest scorer for both Barcelona and Argentina's national team.


Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-43904274


O pari

What manner of madness is this, who the heck knows the damn company. Messi is incorruptible, I guess they just instituted the case to gain fame for themselves. Now I delete their memory.

Eminice11:
The prof shud come out and narrate his side of the story too

The lady has done well coming out but I blive she is not telling us d whole story... Y 45 on the dot. Let ha narrate d whole story.

You prefer 45 on the line, sebi that one is better.

kikuyu1:
I'm not here to lecture anyone,I'm busy and people are entitled to their own opinions,however wrong they may be. What exactly did you not understand?

Well I think your comment is a fine note to end the discussion, people are entitled to their opinions no matter how absurd it is.

[quote author=kikuyu1 post=66583159][/quote]I know you are being cheeky�. But that report was a jungle because it was filled with so much not germane to the topic and hard to read. If you have specific parts you want us to discuss, you can paste it here. And also no comments on the videos I posted? Or other points I raised?

felaismyhero:
5th element,first of all,i think am responsible,but am sure of my concern for the human race.its dat concern dat opened my eyes to d fact dat we are different.to ur question,i wud not wear d cloth,why?,as far as others are naked too,im comfortable.u see,its a mindset,u think its absurd to not wear clothes.but i can tell u of some communities in benin republic dat dont wear clothes till date!(thanks to dad's missionary friends)and they are fine.see,if we start setting societal norms or way of life,we stand at d risk of going back to d primeval times when things are judged based on sentiments nt reason.i agree with most of d tins u tink of as normal,but those who dont agree,we should learn to tolerate.

So we shouldn't set societal norms.

safarigirl:
You must not know how the EPL works

Even Barcelona, cannot do back-back in EPL.

The epl didn't start today, Man United has done back to back a number of times.

safarigirl:
I apologise for going off on you then.

Sorry about the misunderstanding

Your explanation of where you are coming from shows this took quite a bit of effort for you to write. My hats off to you and also sir komekn for explaining succinctly his position without rancour though he should also be part of the amenable crew as a senior man.
We are all a work in progress and may our paths keep getting brighter and brighter.
Just keep getting better....and ignore ignore ignore, and for each ignore give yourself a pat for a scaling that hurdle. And if you have to reply, read it again. Insults really dont make a statement more punchy.

Iceman2017:

I think is high time Benue indigenes should ponder and ask where they have got it wrong.
Something is telling me that all these misfortunes happening to them are karma's from their crime against Biafrans during the war.
The gods are angry with Benue.. Innocent blood they help Nigerian army and Fulani's to slaughter have been crying for vengeance.
I pity them.. God have metcy

That something is very wrong

AnonyNymous:
Define unnatural

Let us know when the 1500 species have legalized it, then we may consider it.

TheGoodJoe:
Thank you so much and let us see how next season goes.

Man city would likely win the league again next season, their quality compared to the others is quite wide. No team currently has a setup that can break down defence comprehensively like they do. The top four teams may give them some issues but the smaller teams are all ripe for picking.

komekn:
There is an attribute that English fans regard above all else DESIRE & EFFORT. No matter what your skill set these attributes must be seen week in and week out or the fans will slate you.

The ideye is their Star man.
He would give them that consistently for 10 years.

Tozara:
Calm down. She FAILED. She didn't want to accept her failure. So she went to the lecturer to negotiate for additional marks that would help her pass a course she had failed - WRONG. The lecturer indulged her request - WRONG no 2 - and made an unprofessional offer (I wouldn't call it "immoral", 'cause she's an adult, and there's nothing wrong with him fücking her under different circumstances if they both consented) to satisfy his own perverted desires - Wrong no 3. She couldn't accept it, because it didn't favour her, not because she thought NEGOTIATING FOR MARKS YOU DIDN'T EARN WAS WRONG AND CRIMINAL (remember that bribery and corruption are still criminal offences in our constitution) - refer to WRONG NO 1.

Then she called him again to try her luck, probably hoping he would demand for a more comfortable price, while she had a back-up plan in place, to expose him as an unprofessional, perverted jerk and criminal if it doesn't work out, which explains why she recorded the phone conversation from the very beginning. If he hadn't demanded for FIVE TIMES, would she have shared the recording? If she had gotten a better bargain, would she have exposed him? You think if he had given her marks she DIDN'T EARN, hence did not deserve, we would have heard anything at all? If she was innocent and "morally" upright, she wouldn't have gone to him to make a request for illegal and unlawful changes to her woeful marks in the first place. There's no saint here, and there's no victim. Our laws, rules, and regulations, and the noble values of Obafemi Awolowo University, are the victims, and the two idiots and headfucks are the criminals under whose knives OAU's image has been made to bleed.

The lady and the Professor are both morally screwed. She only opted out and decided to play victim because she couldn't get a better bargain. They're both criminals. The toxins in the lifeblood of this cancerous system of ours.

[color=darkgreen]She would be the victim only if it is established that THE PROFESSOR FAILED HER FOR NOT GIVING IN TO HIS PRIOR SEXUAL DEMANDS AND NOT BECAUSE SHE WAS A DULLARD THAT WROTE DOWN NONSENSE IN HER EXAM, which would justify her going to him to negotiate marks, and setting him up to gather evidence for his indictment.[/color]

We have no such information yet, so let's wait for the University to conclude their investigation and publicize their findings.

Nice idea, what if it started from the lecturer asking her out during the semester and the girl rejected and the man said she can't pass without agreeing to his request. And the girl was failed and so she started begging and the man refused and she decided to entrap him. That could be how it happened.
There was a well-known case that happened in OAU exactly like that and the lady took it up with the school authority and wotclef got involved. The lady despite all intimidations from other lecturers and diabolic threats stood her ground and called for her exam script. The mad lecturer tore some pages off to support his claim that the girl failed, but madam Soetan the professor and director of centre for gender and social policy who was part of the panel requested that the exam paper be counted and they find that pages are missing and the sentence from the previous page does not tally with the sentence and question been answered on the next page.

The lecturer has a duty to protect his name, profession, school and also the students under his tutelage. He has failed in these and also committed a crime going by the tape if found to be true.

mekstaniac:
Don't mind people. If she had failed and decided to rewrite the course just like she should, who would have the chance to take advantage of her? Olodo

There are lecturers that can fail you 77 times until your existence becomes meaningless.

weezweezweez:
so the fact that she's not a virgin means she should be fucking around?

nawa o..... and besides, this is still hearsays, we don't know maybe it's true or not.....

always calm down... his jealous colleagues might set him up..... we can't just judge like that.

people always judge by d first news........ d story might be true and it might just be set up.

Which of all the recorded bribery incidents of police caught on tape have you ask for caution due to setup. All sting Operations are setups, many FIFA execs that were sacked were caught through setups. A setup stimulates a real life scenario to test somebody that is already under the suspicion of committing a wrong. All law enforcement use it all the time and it does not exonerate the fall guy. He was willing and ready to commit the fraud and so should fave the music squarely.

Olaudah Equiano was an Ibo Slave who bought his freedom in1766 and wrote his book in 1789, he was involved in several expeditions on merchant ships and under different captains none of whom were blacks.
All his activities took place during a period when "Black Kings Ruled Europe", he never said a word about these kings he must have met during his travels. He interacted with several prominent English Abolitionist, and gave series of lectures in cities across Britain, he never appealed to these black kings or talk about them.
Black Slaves were seen as an oddity and exotic people/"animals" in many places in Europe, carnivals and circuses were done to showcase these rare humans and many anthropologists gained fame studying and doing their wack science on these supposedly strange beings. Crazy racially debased Sexual and mental theories were propounded by these scientists and were generally accepted.
Sarah Bartman was paraded all across Europe as a circus freak and a lot of money was made off her due to her large buttocks and her sexual parts became subjects of study and discussion, even when she died she was still kept for studies by an anthropologist.
Do you think that would have been the case if black people were commonplace in Europe that time or just a few decades earlier, do you think they would keep her as a circus freak when their own kings and nobles are blacks and have the same features.

The Ethiopian coptics have been literate for thousands of years and had dealings with European nobles for hundreds of years, they even had Knights Templars and Free-masons that lived with them for Decades, they never at anytime wrote that these famous European Nobles were blacks, there are images of these men in Ethiopia till date and it shows that they are whites. There are several buildings in Lalibela in Ethiopia particularly churches which has the symbols of the knights templar in many places, local traditions as early as 1500 says they were built by white men and as then (1500) the buildings were already ancient buildings.

The earliest Islamic Caliphates and the ottoman turks battled for centuries with different kings of Europe, these were well documented wars by both the byzantine Christians and the Sultans and Pashas, even the beys or moors of North Africa. What Grand Conspiracy swept the whole of Europe and Asia that made sworn enemies to join together and wipe out the history of Black Europe...WTF.

The Lagos Kings for centuries have been dealing in slaves with Portuguese and European Slavers, all these slavers were whites, it has never being related any where in our folktales and history that black explorers came to us in Giant ships, it has always been white.
Long before the 1800s, there was a story of a white explorer that shot the oba of benin in his palace. There are too many numerous facts to rely on and not some dubious paintings that are being bandied around.

kikuyu1:
Rabzy,I'm waiting for feedback. I know its a lot of reading and digestion so I'll wait a bit. I don't do flame wars or trolling and imo this is extremely important info.

Well i tried to read it, but that research was seriously unreadable and not much to go on. I tried to look for indigenous blacks in North America in the 200 yrs old research and nothing much came up.

As the the Tamil/Cameroonian language stuff, it is generally accepted that there must have been a root language that all languages branched off from, so there are so many languages that have similar words and sentences etc. The Japanese Warlord or General is called Shogun, the Yoruba Warlord is called Balogun, the warriors can be called Esho-Ogun = shogun. That is just me randomly thinking up one, maybe if i understand the Japanese language i can drum up another 20 of such similarities.

Now for me the most objectionable part of all these is to say ancient Romans, Greeks, Chinese and everybody where all blacks and at a very recent time less than 300 years ago were killed off or breeded out, thats totally bullocks. To say black people ruled these places until about 200 years ago is absolutely ludicrous.
Bodies and Bones of these Kings are still kept in their Mausoleum and sarcophagus till date, there is no grand conspiracy that would cover up these from Europe all the way to China.. it cant happen

Also there are too many evidences that debunks these revisionist stories. Lets forget about paintings, people sculpts their images and semblances all over the world which shows how they look like from ancient times. Check the following links

https://www.sciencealert.com/humans-use-similar-sounds-for-common-words-in-more-than-6-000-languages


How ancient greeks look like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZAunpOGv8k
Ancient greek sculptures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRkjb6h0iJM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55tSkRqhmYc west Africa vs Egyptian sculpture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjcUzXQ7Yg8 ancient Africans


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJH1-xrjzB0 Ancient Terracotta Chinese army

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAx3PAzpqUY Chinese portrait and Arts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEfI4-lZLcc Chinese arts and paintings
Roman Republic Sculptures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kQzzh3FyFE&index=4&list=PLGMRH5u9RafqXZvlhID0N8gmggdnl-Srx


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md4_pnf_pgQ&index=5&list=PLGMRH5u9RafqXZvlhID0N8gmggdnl-Srx roman funerary reliefs

These are sculptures made by these people depicting how they look like, at least a close resemblance and you can tell the sculptures still look to a large extent like the inhabitants of those places today

Thegeneralqueen:
The school has rules and regulations governing them so if you can't cope Kindly quit......

You will tell your parents you want to quit after they have paid hundreds of thousands. You want make the mama remove the head herself.

Generations ago, the American Indian Osage tribe was compelled to move. Not for the first time, white settlers pushed them off their land in the 1800s. They made their new home in a rocky, infertile area in northeast Oklahoma in hopes that settlers would finally leave them alone.

As it turned out, the land they had chosen was rich in oil, and in the early 20th century, members of the tribe became spectacularly wealthy. They bought cars and built mansions; they made so much oil money that the government began appointing white guardians to "help" them spend it.

And then Osage members started turning up dead.

In 1897 oil was first discovered in Osage County. The United States federal government's Department of the Interior managed leases for oil exploration and production on land owned by the Osage Nation through the Bureau of Indian Affairs and later managed royalties, paying individual allottees. As part of the process of preparing Oklahoma for statehood, the federal government allotted 657 acres (266 ha) to each Osage on the tribal rolls in 1907; thereafter, they and their legal heirs, whether Osage or not, had "headrights" to royalties in oil production, based on their allotments of lands. The headrights could be inherited by legal heirs, including non-Osage.

By 1920 the market for oil had grown dramatically and the Osage were wealthy. In 1923 alone "the tribe took in more than thirty million dollars, the equivalent today of more than four hundred million dollars."

People all across the United States read about the Osage, called "the richest nation, clan or social group of any race on earth, including the whites, man for man." Some Osage used their royalties to send their children to private schools; others bought fancy cars, clothes and jewelry, and traveled in Europe; and newspapers across the country covered their activities. Along with tens of thousands of oil workers, the oil wealth attracted many white opportunists to Osage County; as the writer Robert Allen Warrior characterized them, some were entrepreneurial, while others were criminal, seeking to separate the Osage from their wealth, by murder if necessary.

Believing the Osage would not be able to manage their new wealth, or lobbied by whites who wanted a piece of the action, by 1921 the United States Congress passed a law requiring that courts appoint guardians for each Osage of half-blood or more in ancestry, who would manage their royalties and financial affairs until they demonstrated "competency". Under the system, even minors who had less than half-Osage blood had to have guardians appointed, regardless of whether the minors had living parents. The courts appointed the guardians from local white lawyers or businessmen. The incentives for criminality were overwhelming; such guardians often maneuvered legally to steal Osage land, their headrights or royalties; others were suspected of murdering their charges to gain the headrights.

At that time, 80 lawyers were working in Pawhuska, the Osage County seat, which had 8,000 residents; the number of lawyers was said to be as great as in the state capital, which had 140,000 residents. In 1924 the Department of Interior charged two dozen guardians of Osage with corruption in the administration of their duties related to their charges, but all avoided punishment by settling out of court. They were believed to have swindled their charges out of millions of dollars. In 1929 $27 million was reported as still being held by the "Guardian System", the organization set up to protect the financial interests of 883 Osage families in Osage County.

In his new book, Killers of the Flower Moon, David Grann describes how white people in the area conspired to kill Osage members in order steal their oil wealth, which could only be passed on through inheritance. "This was a culture of complicity," he says, "and it was allowed to go on for so long because so many people were part of the plot. You had lawmen, you had prosecutors, you had the reporters who wouldn't cover it. You had oilmen who wouldn't speak out. You had morticians who would cover up the murders when they buried the body. You had doctors who helped give poison to people."

On how the conspiracy worked

What makes these crimes so sinister is that it involved marrying into families. It involved a level of calculation and a level of betraying the very people you pretended to love. And the way these murders would take place is that people would marry into the families and then begin to kill each member of the family. ... That's exactly what happened to [Osage woman Mollie Burkhart]. She had married a white man, and his uncle was the most powerful settler in the area. He was known as the King of the Osage Hills ... and he had orchestrated a very sinister plot played out over years where he directed his nephew, who had married Mollie Burkhart, to marry her so that he could then begin to kill the family members one by one and siphon off all the wealth.

On how Mollie Burkhart's family was killed

One day in 1921, her older sister disappeared and Mollie looked everywhere for her and couldn't find her. And about a week later, her body was found essentially in a ravine, decomposed. She'd been shot in the back of the head.

Then just a few weeks later, Mollie's mother began to grow increasingly sick. She seemed to be almost disappearing, withering in front of her. And within two months she, too, had died. And evidence later suggested that she had been secretly poisoned.

Not long after that, Mollie was sleeping in her bed in her house with her white husband; they had a couple children. And she heard a loud explosion. She got up in panic and terror. ... She had another sister who lived not far away, and in the area where her sister's house was she could see almost this orange fire ball rising into the sky. It almost looked as if the sun had burst into the night. And her sister's house had been blown up killing that sister as well as her sister's husband and a servant who lived in that house.

On how far the conspirators went to cover up their crimes

Almost anyone who tried to investigate the killings — or at least stop them in the area — they, too, were killed. One attorney tried to gather evidence and one day he was thrown off a speeding train and all the evidence that he had gathered had disappeared. Another time, an oilman had traveled to Washington, D.C., to try to get help. ... He checked into a boarding house in Washington, D.C. ... He was then found the next day stripped naked. He had been stabbed more than 20 times; his head had been beaten in. The Washington Post at the time said what everyone at that point knew, which was there was a conspiracy to kill rich Indians.

On how authorities reacted to the deaths

It's really important to understand back then that there was so much lawlessness. That was one of the things that shocked me when I began researching the story, that even in the 1920s much of America remained a country that was not fully rooted in its laws. Its legal institutions were very fragile; there was enormous corruption, particularly in this era and in this area. And the conspirators were able to pay off lawmen, they were able to pay off prosecutors. There was so much prejudice that these crimes were neglected.

Mollie Burkhart beseeched the authorities to try to investigate, to get help, but because of prejudice they often ignored the crimes. And she issued money for a reward, she hired private investigators, but the crimes for years remained unsolved, and the body count continued to increase. By 1924 there were at least 24 murders alone. ...

Finally, the Osage, in desperation, they issued a resolution, a tribal resolution, beseeching the federal authorities to help. And finally a then-very obscure branch of the Justice Department intervened. It was known as the Bureau of Investigation and it was what ... would later be renamed the FBI.

On the FBI's investigation

J. Edgar Hoover ... was the new director, and it became one of the FBI's first major homicide cases that it ever dealt with. ... The bureau initially badly bungled the case. ... [Hoover] turned the case over to a frontier lawman at the time who finally put together an undercover team that included ... probably the only American Indian agent in the bureau at the time. They went undercover. ... They were able, through some dogged investigation and at great danger, to eventually capture some of the ringleaders. And those ringleaders included not only Mollie Burkhart's husband, it also included [his] uncle, a man who was seen as this great protector of the community.

On what the FBI missed in their investigation

The bureau was so anxious to wrap up the case that they ignored many, many other unsolved crimes and many, many other killers. ... When you begin to look at the documents and you begin to collect the evidence from the Osage, it becomes abundantly apparent. ...

I pulled some of the guardian papers and there was this little booklet that came out. It had a little fabric cover. All it was was essentially identifying the name of a guardian and which Osage they were in charge of. And when I opened up the book, I could see the name of the guardian and when I began to look at the names of the Osage under them I could see written next to many of them simply the word "Dead. Dead. Dead." It was almost like a ledger; it was like this forensic, bureaucratic accounting.

But when you're looking at it, you're beginning to realize you're looking at hints of a systematic murder campaign, because there's no way all these people died in a span of just a couple years. It defied any natural death rate. The Osage were wealthy, they had good doctors. ... And then when you begin to look into each of those individual cases, you start to find trails of evidence suggesting poisonings, a murder. You start to try to trace the money ... and where the wealth went. And what you begin to discover is something even more horrifying than the bureau ever exposed.

GRANN: He did. They went to an old frontier lawman to help take over the case and they did a good job. But Hoover was desperate to wrap up the case. The Bureau missed a deeper and darker conspiracy that remained unsolved. And I think that's very important to understand.

INSKEEP: How do you know that?

GRANN: Well, many of the Osage began to point me in directions to other unsolved cases within their families going back. What this story really is about - it's not about a story of who did it. It's a story about who didn't do it. When I went to the National Archives in Texas, there was this little booklet. It had a little fabric cover. It - all it was was essentially identifying the name of a guardian and who - which Osage they were in charge of.

And when I began to look at the names of the Osage under them, I could see written next to many of them simply the word dead, dead, dead. You're beginning to realize you're looking at hints of a systematic murder campaign because there's no way all these people died in a span of just a couple years that defied any natural death rate.

And then when you begin to look into each of those individual case, you start to find trails of evidence of suggesting poisonings, a murder. You start to try to trace the money and where the wealth went. What you begin to discover is something even more horrifying than the Bureau ever exposed.

INSKEEP: When you've been poking around in this and revealing this information about a bunch of people's ancestors, what have people said to you?

GRANN: So one of the things that you realize when you spend time in Osage County is that the descendants of both the victims and descendants of the murderers still live there. They often live down the street from each other. And one Osage woman told me we try not to hold them accountable for what their ancestors did. Part of that is the story of America, this intertwining and this kind of reckoning with this original sin that is part of our formation of a country.

And I would say this, I spoke with some of the descendants of the husband of Mollie Burkhart and the uncle who was one of the masterminds of the plot. And they were remarkably candid. And after I finished the book, I received a note from one of the descendants who said, I'm so ashamed that this is part of our history. And please, if you see the Osage, will you please tell them that?


Note from me: A nation always need to heal....everyone, no thats not possible, enough people must own up and enough people must say never again.

autojosh:
The 1.4km Pen Cinema flyover and bridge ramp will run from Agege down to the Abeokuta Expressway. It is a key intervention strategy by the Ambode administration to address the perennial traffic often associated with the area.

The project is very laudable but i doubt it would get to Abeokuta expressway, except if you mean the part that branches off at ile-zik thru Total and Abbatoir then reconnects back to the expressway at Abule-egba. I think the bridge will lift off at Pen Cinema and land somewhere along Agunbiade street, possibly at Amoo Street Junction.

kikuyu1:
I realise the most difficult thing is not to learn but UNLEARN! To accept that everything you thought you knew was a mix of propaganda,false history and outright lies. Use your greater knowledge and do us a favour-please point out anything faked,photoshopped or otherwise false on this thread,thanks.

Most of the pictures you have are fake and Photoshop I don't need to point to specifics. Listen Chief, it is extremely ridiculous to say Europe was peopled by blacks and their kings and notable men such as explorers were blacks until a few centuries ago such as was mentioned of king Charles who died in early 1820 is black.

Some documents were posted that mentioned that a particular person was a 'fine handsome black man', the fact that it has to be pointed out or emphasized that the person is black shows it is an oddity and a rarity and not commonplace. If am talking about my colleagues or classmates in Lagos and I said one of them is a Lebanese, it shows clearly he is an odd one amongst us and the rest of us are the same race or colour.

Have you forgotten, so many cultures around the world had encounters with these European kings and explorers and they never mentioned they were blacks. More than 500 yrs ago, the ancient Benin kingdom had encounter with Portuguese traders and explorers, and
they were whites, these are all part of their history and they made bronze sculptures of these explorers and you can see clearly that they are whites. A Benin prince was sent to Portugal and he never came back and tell his people the kings or people there are blacks. The Ghanaians, Malians. The Ethiopians have done the same for thousands of years and in their chronicles, they were not interacting with black nobility. The Chinese Indians Koreans and Arabs have also been having dealings and relationships with these kings, none of them ever wrote in their history which they jealously guide and protect that these European kings were blacks.

The Spanish conquistadors of South America were white skinned nobles and explorers, their descendants are still there and the black men and other liberators that fought vehemently and victoriously against them never said they were black.
So to come up someday and say the white men twisted the history of the whole world even in places where they never had a foothold or stronghold just to denounce their own kings is just way beyond foolishness.

Benin bronzes still have images of those who came and they are not your black explorers.

Uchek:
[b][/b]You are a Yorubaman. Stop embarassing yourself in public. Nigeria is a nation of tribes. It is a mere geographical expression according to Awolowo in 1947. It still remains a geographical expression in 2018. The mere fact that you bring up pedestrian arguments to side step the thrust of this posting: inhumanity of the civil and the atrocities committed against the Igbos with the active collaboration of the Yorubas who are now calling for true federalism and resource control which was whole essense of ABURI ACCORD.

I felt like vomitting when l read yourr statement:" there are Ibos who did't support Biafran War and still does not support Kanu and there Yorubas who fought in the Biafran Army"

First of all, comparing Biafran War to Kanu's quest is the height of false equivalency which average Yoruba man proudly wallows in. It is also an insult on the memory of the tens of thousand innocent people massacred in the pogrom in the north for which no one was arrested or punished by Gowon's adminitration. Kanu's demand for restructuring Nigeria was not preceded by pogroms so it is intellectually dishonest to equate the two issues.

Second, your argument that not all Igbos supported Biafra is pedestrian. I suggest you invest time and effort to read literatures on Biafra. I have so many ebooks on Biafran Civil War. I can make it available to you,at no cost, to educate yourself on Biafra. Almost 100% of Igbos supported Biafra. The creme-dela-creme of Igbos fought (and lost) for Biafra's existence. On the other hand, Yorubas who fought for Biafra are infinitesimal - especially Yorubas in the army who fought for Biafra had no choice. They could not return to Lagos. They would have being arrested by Gowon for their role in the January coup. Almost 100% Yorubas supported Awolowo's role in the civil war and they still do ,50 years after the end of the war. That is why when you criticize Awo's role in the war they go into frenzy with a knee-jerk reaction.

Why I Fought On The Side Of Ojukwu, Biafra – Lt Fola Oyewole - PM News January 9, 2016

Retired Lt. Fola Oyewole, a former Nigerian military officer of the Yoruba stock, fought on the side of Biafra during the civil war. Before then, the 77-year old was imprisoned in Lagos and Enugu because of his role in the first coup 50 years ago but was released by late Lt Col Ojukwu.

Q: In your book, you wrote that after the coup, you were detained in Lagos and then transferred to the East but Ojukwu released you. We wonder why you didn’t run away?

A: Where do you want to run to? In Nigeria I was absolutely persona non grata, is it heaven you want to run to? Apart from that I and other Yoruba colleagues had the fortune of having a chat with Chief Obafemi Awolowo when he came to the East. He and leaders of south east I cant remember all of them. On behalf of Nigeria, they came to plead with Ojukwu and we had the fortune of meeting him (Awo) because my late uncle, M. A. Oyewole was Awo’s friend. So when he was leaving Lagos, he jokingly told him, you must come back with my son. So when he came to the east, Awo started looking for me. Eventually he left a message where I would meet him and I did. I told my colleagues and we all went and we saw him and in the course of the discussion, we did ask if we could come home and he said ‘not now, don’t try it’. So what do you do? And the easterners were not chasing us, so why not stay where you are accepted? So we stayed.

Q: You didn’t run away. But why did you decide to fight on the side of Biafra?

A: Now there was a trade I learnt- that is soildiering. What will I be doing in Biafra if I did not fight? I only practiced my trade. It is as simple as that. You could not just be walking around town doing nothing.

Q: But Ojukwu asked people who wanted to leave to go to the federal side..

A: That is before the war. If you remember early 1966 before the war till late 66 during the pogrom, by the time the war started, non easterners were in the east, they had not gone.

Q: In the book you said you do not believe in secession.

A: Yes.

Q: Despite that, you wrote in your book that Ojukwu had genuine grievances, yet you fought on Biafran secessionist side, help us reconcile those positions…

A: You might have your objections but the powers that be, this was what they wanted, you have no choice. Mark you, I was not the only one who, given the chance, didn’t believe in secession, more so because we were not ready, we did not have enough arms. We had manpower, yes, credible manpower was there, but manpower alone doesn’t do it.

Q: You were at a point, according to your book, with Captain Adeleke, another Yoruba soldier, who was he?

A: He was a colleague. He is the one who said he wanted to consult the family and we were friends, we both worked in Apapa before the crisis.

Q: I want you to describe what happened to other Yoruba people or non-Igbo who fought on the Biafra’s side – Lt Col. Victor Banjo, Major Wale Ademoyega, then Major Kaduna Nzeogwu an Igbo from Opanam in Delta?

A: They were detained like myself, and Nzeogwu was detained, that was a common factor.

Q: In your book, you applauded Ojukwu’s performance in Aburi, explain to us what actually happened because there is this argument that he bamboozled Gowon.

A: If you listen to the Aburi accord or the proceedings as a whole, you will duff your cap for Ojukwu whether he is a villain or whatever you want to call him, call him. He really dictated the pace of the discussion, he was prepared for it, he kind of put together all the things and if you listen, the moment he started talking, others kept quiet and when he finished, they will say ok, ok, ok. To give you a full grasp of what the theme was, you need to read the comment of the super perm sec who led us to were we are today.

Q: Was it Philip Asiodu?

A: The group – Asiodu, and the rest. Their recommendations, what they brought back from Aburi was agreed to be implemented but when they came here they tore it to pieces.

Q: Ok, was after the agreement was signed in Aburi? They came back to Nigeria….

A: To put it in whatsoever you can say political implementation. They desired to analyse it, it was an agreement not suggestion, that’s where our problem sort of started.

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Oga relax yourself and don't burst a vein. One is never able to discuss the biafran war without all these outbursts and insults. Fact, am not Yoruba and it matters not where I come from. People all over the world students, politicians soldiers discuss wars and epoch making events and their views does not indicate their nationality, so why can't it be so in this instance. I only replied someone who wanted to determine my tribe thru of my post, what level of foolishness is that. Then you came and said the number of people who supported were infinitesimal, did I ever give a number, so those infinitesimal are no longer from that tribe. Wole Soyinka was known to have Biafran sympathies, was he forced to do it. There were Efiks and ibibios that fought on different sides of the war, does that make either of these group non-efiks. In all or most wars, there would always be people who don't support. Do you know how many Ibos were labelled saboteurs and killed by the people? If those allegations were true, does that make them Yoruba? Do you know some Ibo's who refused to fight or join the war were killed.

I have eyewitness accounts of some individuals, I make it a point to ask people of their personal experiences, my mother-in-law is from Avu in owerri and other respected adults from the east, my parents villages also experienced some upheavals though minor, my best adult pal is from Uyo ikot Ekpene axis.
I have books written by the actors in the war, the one by General Alex Modiebo and also the rejoinder by ademoyega, the one by isima and also by obasanjo. I have downloaded the now declassified secret dispatches of the various intelligence agencies, I have read interviews of some pilots and mercenaries that flew the Biafran babies and their escapades.

While I don't mind having more information or excepts you are willing to give but know that am not talking glibly.
I have read about the wars of the maharajahs in India, the war of roses in England, the conquest of ghenghis and Kublai Khan, the world wars, the nam and Korean wars, the wars of Israel both ancient and modern, the ashanti-fante-detshira wars, the Barbary slave wars, the Yoruba-dahomey wars, the Benin Empire, wars, the aro-english war, the Zulu-xhosa war, the zulu-English wars etc.
So my motive of reading up on the Biafran war is not to apportion blame but to as much as possible know what happened, educate if possible and learn always.

kikuyu1:
What don't you get,nigga?! The links,pics and sources c an be understood by an eight year old-exactly WTF is your major malfunction?

Yeah only by 8 yrs old and not fully functional mature minds

A lot of people didn't get the message. The post is highlighting the commercialization of the Easter festivities symbolize by the image holding on to gift bags. A lot of people get involved with the parties and gifts etc and the person of jesus himself is lost to them in the midst of all the jamboree.

safarigirl:
you don't know that angle is necessary for Komekn's narrative?


I did not know our defense is filled with players from La Liga and EPL......BTW, of what use were the Premier League forwards in our team or even that Premier League midfielder from Serbia?

The Championship must be better than EPL

You are bad men...championship is great from serbia but EPL from naija is bad.

serbia scores

Mujtahida:
There's a way this ball bounces

walai i dont understand how that ball was changing direcrion midair

Thoughts on ebuehi and idowu please. Is uzoho afraid to kick the ball too far when taking goal kicks. Ndidi is gonna be the ogidi omo no doubt. Moses displaying his suppressed skills, he should sha hone it very well and not use us for practise.

Sctests:
You can pretend all you want but Tribe remains an important issue in political discourse in that failed state.

Now let me prove it to you If an Igbo man or an IPOB member had made the remarks against the fulanis, he would have been dismissed as a diagruntled element, your army generals will be sipping their wine without giving a care but today they are running helter-skelter because Gen Danjuma one of their have exposed them.
Danjuma didn't say anything different from Igbos and IPOB have been saying about fulanis.

Tribe is important that's why when you read articles you rush down to find out the tribe of the writer before we decide to agree with him or dismiss him.

You see, you are not sincere that's why you are hiding your tribe so you air your opinion and paint it with the garb of 'pseudo-objectivity' but nonetheless from your comment so far, I can wager a guess about your tribe with some level of accuracy.
I can start accurately by saying you are not Igbo.

of course for tribalists facts are based on tribes and not facts, and its not everyone you can lump into into that pot. Adulterers believe everyone is an adulterer, that doesnt make it true no matter the prevalence of adultery.
my views does not define my tribe and there are ibos who didnt support the biafran war and who still does not support Kanu, and there are yorubas who fought in the biafran army and many today still support biafran secession, maybe they are all pretenders.

Sctests:
A test of sincerity for you- Who fired the first shot that officially marked the beginning of the war, nigeria or Biafra?

The answer to that question will tell us your thought process and even your tribe.

It wont tell you jack about my tribe, why must everything revolve around someone's tribe. lets keep the discussion free of those shackles.

It's like saying who fired the shot that killed archduke ferdinald of Austria which led to the world war 1, you can name the guy but a number of incidents led to the shot fired by the serb.
But to answer you, the Nigerian army started what they termed 'police action' at Garkem and obudu in the Ogoja sector, but provocative actions have started much earlier.

emmysoftyou:
you mean biafran bomb marina, apapa and cinema in yaba.

Pls I need a link like pictures, videos or write-up to believe your statement.
Mind you, they were heading towards Lagos cos that was the capital of Nigeria and if we wanted to harm the Yoruba, Ibadan, Ile ife ,ondo and ekiti are very close to east than a far away Lagos.
It's because you have not travel outside your enclave that's why you thought Lagos is closer to the east.

However, I need evidence to back up what you typed there.
Thank you

Thats a newspaper link.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=qQZdAAAAIBAJ&sjid=FloNAAAAIBAJ&dq=lagos%20bombed&pg=795%2C2201295
There are also dispatches by foreign missions in Nigeria that mentioned it, and i have personally spoken with people who saw the bomb blast in Lagos.

emmysoftyou:
you mean biafran bomb marina, apapa and cinema in yaba.

Pls I need a link like pictures, videos or write-up to believe your statement.
Mind you, they were heading towards Lagos cos that was the capital of Nigeria and if we wanted to harm the Yoruba, Ibadan, Ile ife ,ondo and ekiti are very close to east than a far away Lagos.
It's because you have not travel outside your enclave that's why you thought Lagos is closer to the east.

However, I need evidence to back up what you typed there.
Thank you

lololol, i have deployed projects all over Nigeria especially in the east, i served in Isiala Mbano, try and stick with the discussion with no personal jabs and insults please.
I didnt talk about motives, whether the biafran army wanted to harm the yoruba is not the question, we are talking about what happened during the war. In war there are targets, when Biafra invaded midwest, they splitted into 3, one battalion went to warri, one to auchi and the last made a dash for benin. in the drive to lagos, the biafran troops captured ore, okitipupa, akotogbo, irele, ute etc. The biafran army was to peel off into two, one to drive to ibadan thru ife road and the other to dash to Lagos, so if the lagos Nigerian army and the troops in the north dash to engage the Biafran army that has taken over these places, yoiu think the west would be spared also with a possible resistance from the local citizens.

Cooly100:

"...We made a disproportionate contribution to the maintenance of the unity of Nigeria at war. We made a sacrifice of over half a million men to keep Nigeria one; we cannot be made to look like cowards.
When you want to fight your wars, where do they get soldiers? They come here (Benue). We contributed more than one million men to fight the Nigerian Civil War. We had three quarters of the casualties. What has Nigeria rewarded my people with?...Governor Ortom

This is no answer to the question