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ogaju007:
Rabzy: Lets assume you're right, Adam's children would have to Be Intimate with one another to bring forth the next generation ABI!!!? You're not making any sense cause that would be insest that is really frowned upon by you xtians.

God is the one that decides what is right and wrong and also he decides when to allow or forbid a practise. Marriages within close family members were common in the early times. Abraham married his half-sister sarah. Such marriages were not forbidden until the time of Moses, when God specifically made it a sin and a crime to do so.

Wow, so this Osu thing is still very strong, i first knew about the issue in checkmate, i never knew it is still very much in force. I think wedding in the east is 'too traditional', its so hard to have your way when the whole village wants to have a say.

Well i don't care what tribe or outcast clan i marry from, if me and the woman jell and some people are so bent unreasonably to break us, i will just bone everybody.

It takes just 7,500 to register for marriage in Ikeja registry, then you pay an additional 2,500. Patapata 15000 naira, both of us don be de dat.

The Creator, as Universal Sovereign, was acting wholly within his right in making the law regarding the tree.
Adam, being a created person, and not sovereign, had limitations, and he needed to acknowledge this fact.
For universal peace and harmony, it would devolve upon all reasoning creatures to acknowledge and support the Creator’s sovereignty. Adam would demonstrate his recognition of this fact by refraining from eating the fruit of that tree. As father-to-be of an earth full of people, he must prove obedient and loyal, even in the smallest thing.

The reason was not revealed in the scriptures, we don't know why. we can haphazard guesses, we can attempt to explain why, but it would all be our thoughts on the matter.
But no one can say it is unreasonable or wrong for God to do so, neither can we say he meant/plan for them to fall into sin.

all4naija:
Where did Cain got his wife from when Adam, Eve and Cain (after death of his brother) were the only people on earth? That is how the tree of life idea doesn't add up.

Where did you read that it was just the four of them that where on earth. You should be sure you have read enough before you make assertions.

(Genesis 4:25-26) . . .And Adam proceeded to have intercourse again with his wife and so she gave birth to a son and called his name Seth, because, as she said: “God has appointed another seed in place of Abel, because Cain killed him.” 26 And to Seth also there was born a son and he proceeded to call his name E′nosh. . .

(Genesis 5:3-4) . . .And Adam lived on for a hundred and thirty years. Then he became father to a son in his likeness, in his image, and called his name Seth. 4 And the days of Adam after his fathering Seth came to be eight hundred years. Meanwhile he became father to sons and daughters.

Adam had other sons and daughters whose names were not revealed in the scriptures. Marriages between siblings and other close family relatives were the norm in the early days as was seen in the family of terah, abraham.

The man is absolutely right, if we had won, he would be right and as we lost, he is still right.

Loss: He predicted it
Win: Prayers averted the disastrous result.

For someone to ask people to pray to God to make us win a football match is the height of spiritual emptyness. Why would God take sides in such mundane contests. what if my parents are playing Ludo, should i pray to God to make one of them win.

I am hoping and praying that this project comes to light,
For those who wants brand new well that is okay, nothing spoil, we want brand new trains, we don't need brand new. But i would dump my car and sit on a 'pako' train if it would make me get to Egbeda from V.I in 2 hours instead of the 4 or 5 hours i spend going home everyday.

Hello ladies,

sorry to barge in into this, please how does all these tight fitting clothes and girdle reduce the waisteline after birth. What of when the woman takes it off. Does the clothe burn the fat or firm the muscles.

if these corsets makes you sweat, it does not mean you are burning any fat, you are only losing body water, so if water constitutes the major part of the waist gain during pregnancy and not fat, then its okay. Then that water can easily be gained back, so it cant be a strong solution.

So please kindly enlighten us more about the way this stuff works.

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Real Madrid used to be a great team, which the whole world admired, fan or foe would love zidane, figo, raul. The days when beautiful football was played. Now real madrid played against a great team like ajax and defeated them hands-down in all department of the game.

But we did not get from Ajax the flying kicks, the deliberate yellows, the pushs and shoves, the fights and all the gangster antics that real madrid consistently put up when they are being trounced soundly by you-know-who and by anyone else.

Its a shame, let them play ball and lets enjoy the game.

^^^^^^
BBA is a wasted show, i have never watched it, its not entertaining to me in any way and i am not surprised when one of their best said the above. The characters they showcase are either comical at best and insane at worst.
crass nonsense.

@ rhino copy lord babs

Bros
In an ideal world everyone will sit back relax and let the prosecutors do their job, but in a world where humans are humans with emotions, motives and tactical reasonings, idiosyncracies, in a world where police bundle up investigations, judges ruin judgement and criminals escape from prisons and where people have a right to air their opinions,, you can't ask people not to air their minds, show their anger, react with passions and emotions and even logical make a conclusion about issues. Why do judges gag the jury?

Its an emotional matter that has affected a lot of people and which is totally abhorrent, so don't expect dispassionate responses. A passionate response does not mean a wrong response and there are a lot of people who have commented disspasionately and say it is wrong or it is violation.

You have said you're playing the devil's advocate, which is okay by me, even if they had murderd the lady and its on tape, some people will still play the devil's advocate, at least someone will still be the defense lawyer.

But in a bid to play the devil's advocate, you need to see that people have raised valid points, i have now watched the video and there are reasons to believe that there was non-consensual sex or the initial sex later led to non-consensual sex.

A girl that likes kinky stuff don't say she wants to go home, she does not say they should kill her, she dictates what is to be done to her. Even if she likes the kinkiest nonsense, at the point where she can't take it no more, when she voices her dissent, it has to stop, not for someone else to come again and start the whole stuff all over. Like someoe said there was an iron in the room, if the prosecutor has any brain, he should claim that they used it to threaten her plus the other threaths they made, there are no threaths in consensual sex.

when five boys are 'lets say its just sex' are Being Intimate with a girl and she says she wants to go and one of them says whats wrong with you, we would drop you after we all finish, and there is an iron in the room and other stuff and she is not cynthia rothroc or Michelle yeoh, then it is definitely a threath and a violation.

Whe the girl said she has tried, she was pleading for a damn stop, one  said yes, she has tried but they must continue, what the f.cuk was that? I don't even want to remember the whole episode again. Please if you want to do Devil's adbocate, you can be their defense lawyer, but this is a public forum. You could be 'lynched' here if your opinion runs against the public.

switch47:
If you are really interested in the Legal implication and analysis   check out this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-766695.0.html#msg9227312



The Offence is defined in section 357 of the Criminal Code as follows
" Any person who has unlawful carnal knowledge of a woman or girl ,without her consent,or with her consent,if the consent is obtained by force or by means of threat or intimidation of any kind,or fear of harm,or by means of false and fraudulent representation as to the nature of the act,or, in the case of a married woman,by personating her husband,is guilty of an offence which is called rap e.

http://www.naijahood.com/2011/09/absu-gang-violation-suspects-identified.html

thank you very much, let the defense lawyers read that. Somebody said about 40% of all sex are rapes, you need to check out where you are staying and get out fast.

[quote author=Rhino.4dm link=topic=768717.msg9227211#msg9227211 date=1317103056]fella! Am not a mind reader to start with and neither am advocating for any mercy. i cant emotionally decide a ra.pe case by just viewing of a tape without any history.
like i earlier said, i know a lot of girls that prefer kinky, violent and exploding se.x.

What if the case turns out be countrary to what you have been emotionally tied to?

Some of these girls will demand from you dry gin,weed,power horse and all sort of available stimulant before se.x

some will tie your hands and legs wide open and se.x the hell out of your brain. . .while some will give you horse whip and fresh cane and instruct you beat them like erring donky while having se.x.

So, dont be caught among those hypocrites shouting more than the bereaved while secretly advocating for funniers and weird way of life. Allow the police and courts to do their work.[/quote]@rhino

Bros
In an ideal world everyone will sit back relax and let the prosecutors do their job, but in a world where humans are humans with emotions, motives and tactical reasonings, idiosyncracies, in a world where police bundle up investigations, judges ruin judgement and criminals escape from prisons and where people have a right to air their opinions,, you can't ask people not to air their minds, show their anger, react with passions and emotions and even logical make a conclusion about issues. Why do judges gag the jury?

Its an emotional matter that has affected a lot of people and which is totally abhorrent, so don't expect dispassionate responses. A passionate response does not mean a wrong response and there are a lot of people who have commented disspasionately and say it is wrong or it is rape.

You have said you're playing the devil's advocate, which is okay by me, even if they had murderd the lady and its on tape, some people will still play the devil's advocate, at least someone will still be the defense lawyer.

But in a bid to play the devil's advocate, you need to see that people have raised valid points, i have now watched the video and there are reasons to believe that there was non-consensual sex or the initial sex later led to non-consensual sex.

A girl that likes kinky stuff don't say she wants to go home, she does not say they should kill her, she dictates what is to be done to her. Even if she likes the kinkiest nonsense, at the point where she can't take it no more, when she voices her dissent, it has to stop, not for someone else to come again and start the whole stuff all over. Like someoe said there was an iron in the room, if the prosecutor has any brain, he should claim that they used it to threaten her plus the other threaths they made, there are no threaths in consensual sex.

when five boys are 'lets say its just sex' are Being Intimate with a girl and she says she wants to go and one of them says whats wrong with you, we would drop you after we all finish, and there is an iron in the room and other stuff and she is not cynthia rothroc or Michelle yeoh, then it is definitely a threath and a violation.

Whe the girl said she has tried, she was pleading for a damn stop, one idiot said yes, she has tried but they must continue, what the f.cuk was that? I don't even want to remember the whole episode again. Please if you want to do Devil's adbocate, you can be their defense lawyer, but this is a public forum. You could be 'lynched' here if your opinion runs against the public.

Light has tremendously improved in my area too Egbeda-Idimu axis, my deep freezer and fridge is totally frozen. I have been drinking water from 'amu', which used to be the cooler alternative before. Now all my water is so frozen, it is still the only alternative. . Up my 'amu'.

You had better verify it too. My wedding is coming up on that date but now i have moved it further by a week. its just that 29th is an environmental day

^^^^
I totally agree with you, but this administration impressed me with what they did in such a short time. i remember a time when Lagos was looking like a huge construction site due to all the works going -on and many people were saying they should do things bit by bit.

One thing i have noticed also is that new towns are springing up all over the place, some twenty years ago places like Ijegun, Akute, Aboru were more or less outskirts of town, but now every one of them has been integrated. its tough to keep up with the number of new towns springing up and the rate at which people quickly populate the place.

sexkillz:
And you classify your "route" as Lagos? How about the abeokuta express way? Agege? And the other parts the OP mentioned? Do you know that people that leave the Island by 5, heading towards, Iyana ipaja, Abulegba, and agege environs, get home between the hours of 10pm and 12am? Arent those parts of lagos too?

why i mentioned all that is because everyone were mentioning all the bad roads, well i could also reel off some good roads that were well constructed by this administration across all the local governments. Those good ones are also part of Lagos.

sexkillz:
Roads in Lagos? Where? What we have as roads in Lagos are Death Traps! 85% of All traffic jams in Lagos, can be traced to bad roads! Anyone with me say AYE!

I beg to differ.

Lagos roads are good,
I go from ikotun to egbeda up akowonjo road to the express, then i link the bridge at ikeja to maryland all the way to ikorodu road and onwards to western avenue, from western avenue i take the bridges all the way to cms, then inner marina to Armadu bello road, from there to eko hotel and then Ajose adeogun to my office in Ligali ayorinde.

I don't know if shina rambo is this guy, but back in the late 80s and early 90s Shina Rambo was a major terror in Lagos then.

Am not a wedding planner, but am planning my wedding for later this year, i think you need to let people know where i Lagos you want to have the wedding, because prices vary with respects to location.

doctokwus:
@COMPAQ,u spoke my mind.When I knew it was a fluke was wen d phrase"world class",evrytime dt word is used in nigeria,nothing gets done or if done its 'village class'

Guy thanks so much, in Nigeria politicians use words that are disgustingly inappropriate and utterly deceitful. The one i hate to hear most is Ultra-modern something something, and when you see the thing its something from the dead ages.

We should applaud the boy for his achievements but its painful to see that this is the kind of results getting Governor's attention. In the 90s, the best results from public schools used to better than this. You could hardly get a handshake from your principal then.

Its a big mess we are in and most of our kids are in public schools.

Please guys,

I just learnt that the local government elections in Lagos is coming up on the 22nd of October. please i urgently need to know if there would be restrictions on movement on that day or not. I can't remember how it was in the previous LG elections. This is very important for me.

^^^ Thanks ma'am.

There are a lot we should learn from the the Good, The bad and The Ugly of our parents. We know those things our parents do that were unfair, that we did not like especially those exaggerations they just spin out. As per Kids, nothing is going to make me go past the three mark, except if the third birth were twins, triplet or more, then i would be in serious trouble

Those harmattan hawking were harrowing, while you are trying to be all cozy and warm, waam! you are on the street hawking, shaking like a jelly, white as snow. Thats why when i hear some people say Nigerians are lazy, i wonder what country they discovered those Nigerians.

I ate beans to death while at the University, now i can hardly stand it except as ewa iganyin and eat it with Agege bread. I just make plenty and store in the deep freezer and thaw it out, as per the gas thing, well its part of what makes life fun. I just do it alone or with people i am super comfortable with.

Theblessed:
[b][size=16pt]Yeah, everything must be blamed on Goodluck Jonathan - no be so??

Na Goodluck Jonathan made these babies, abi.

Instead of blaming irresponsible parents for having more than they can chew - having more children than they can feed/clothe/educate thus risking the lives of their young babies in the streets as they scanvage for their daily bread - go on, blame it on Jonathan!!

Imagine, things are already hard for these parents now, that the kids are only under 5yrs old and are yet to started proper school - just wait for it! Kids are born and left to get on with whatever life throws at them as if they begged, to be born? 

Time will tell, as some would end up in prostitution and perhaps their brothers, in armed robbery (intimidating and stealing from innocent people, what they worked hard for) in order to survive - now tell me how beautiful, that is!!  These parents have certainly, done a beautiful job of their children for society, eh?

The role of a father is to provide and protect his children.  Now tell me, in your eyes, how are these little girls protected in these wild streets full of criminals and paedophiles, who could be secretly touching, feeling and even  r a p i n g  them at the back-yards of their stores, sheds and houses without anyone knowing or even the kids telling their parents for the fear of being victimised again?

It seems no one is seriously using their upstairs here. Think people, think - this is evil!!

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These kids are too young to be on the streets trading, but like i said they might just be delivering these items to a neighbor down the street, or trading just around the house. As to teenagers trading or young children trading not toddlers like these, if a parent is faced with the ever present danger of starving and the children falling sick and dying, and the chance of earning extra income but with the possibility of a pervert taking advantage of them. The choice is not difficult to choose, survival first all other things come secondary.

^^^^^ I totally agree, those kids would lose money the money faster than they can sell their goods.
Its so easy for someone to get confused while hawking. sometimes when i get home and we want to do the accounting, i just find out that i cant balance my accounts, i have lost some money somehow. i don't know why the girls were always better in getting their figures right, they hardly ever fail to balance up, but for me the case is different. My mom always have a one-kind look when she wants to do mine, and am always clueless as to how it got missing.

One of the most painful scenes i see is when Kids sell in traffic and then they sell pure water that in all does not amount to 100 Naira. Parents should not allow that, the risk are too great, there is the danger of death every second. When i gained admission into the University, before resumption, a friend introduced me to selling of daily newspapers. I had a stand in U-turn bus-stop along Lagos-Abeokuta expressway and occasionally i have to run after cars to give them their papers, but to sell in the midst of traffic is something i would never try.
I salute those guys that do it, but its damn too risky, then for me to see kids doing it, no its just too much to handle.

Fhemmmy:
rabzy . . .mail me and we could talk . . . Femmmy.moto@gmail.com . . . .
It takes a great mind to be able to say all you have said . . . . . God bless

Thanks no problem, i would holla you.

Fhemmmy:
See the effort that you mother has went through and seeing all that, it made your grown up sister to wanna help and do something, that is nice and different, but for a young kid that ought to be in school, it is wrong.

Also, i am sure that your Mom would have made sure your sister never did that, if it was during school hours . . . . .
Also, I can bet almost anything that if you were born into that poverty, your parents would not have had 4 kids, cos you have said enough for us to know they are people with feelings and reasonable great people.

But what do you say about the parents that will send kids hawking and stay home making more babies . . . that is lunacy

Yeah i know that, we never hawked during school hours and my parents valued education so much, it was just that my grandparents did not a priority for my grandparents. i am not holding brief for any negligent parents, i hate negligent parenting and i have seen some. But also our own situation was still far better than the circumstances of some. Some parents grew up in environment where education was seen as a waste of time.

The picture that started all these, i don't know where it was taken, i don't know the circumstances, there are many places in Nigeria where the school is not worth going to, there are many places where there are no schools for miles, there many kids in Nigeria who are not interested in schooling. What options do those school age kids have or their parents. Like i said there was a friend of mine who would rather be a butcher than go to school. He was consistently failing in primary school.
Enlightenment is something many people are not privilege to have, many people were brought up with the idea that children are gifts from God and he who gave them will help you to take care of them, While i was delaying my wedding plans because of financial constraints, many people were telling me i should not worry too much, that God blesses marriages, that i would just see things improving once i get married. I am a Christian and i strongly believe in God, But i also know the Jesus said no one starts building a house without costing it first.

People in remote places even in our cities, see childbirth as a natural thing that comes and you don't have to control it, some who use some form of control, when they start see some side effects, they just abandon it. How many villages have access to basic health care, let alone birth control measures and knowledge.

There was a day i was in my school hall Fajuyi in OAU, and a cleaner in the hall was dancing seriously and singing ayefela, awa ma bimo lemo lemo, gbam,gbam, gbam, gbam, gbam,i.e the songs says ' we would be having kids, gbam, gbam, gbam,gbam,gbam, each gbam is suppose to be a child being born, when we asked whats happening, she said one of them had just given birth and they are all happy and every year this should be happening, I told her its bad to be having Kids every year and having numerous kids, but she said know that it is a woman's Joy and heritage to do so. She kept on dancing and we left. The culture and mentality is that it is okay to have many kids, so its not a case of these parents being wicked or callous. We need a cultural re-orientation and its going to take a while before it sinks in all over the country.
Just imagine even vaccination is not allowed for some kids by their parentsin some places, female genital mutilation is still strong in other places mostly due to ignorance and deeply entrenched beliefs in traditions. Is it all these people that would be concerned about child control when other more heinous and harmful practices are still going on.

Its painful but its the harsh reality, its going to take a while before these practices go away, and like i said there are some that becomes necessary

^^^The dog breeding business was just the idea of my younger brother, he is doing part-time studies with NOUN. So we just gave him money to fund it and since he is still at home with my parents, they are helping him with it. For my parents am considering fish farming for them, i have been in touch with the people in the industry and have also attended seminars and downloaded materials. I just want to get some money to start it for them and teach them how to do it. My dad has already been to some fish farms and he is eager to start also.

Though they don't have to work now because we send them monthly wages, but they don't like been idle, and we all prefer the idea that they could also earn money on their own without waiting on anyone.

Fhemmmy:
Rabzy . . . .

Thanks for that great and touching story, but there is a difference in what you just narrated,[b] i love the part where you said, your Mom tried to stop her . .
The case of those 5 years old kids, that is all they know and at least you Dad did all he could do to give you something and a life, but most other parents, just assume that they have given birth to those kids and they have done their job, and now the kids owe them, and it is not like that . . . . [/b]

Yeah, lol, my mom tried to stop her because she felt my sister was too big to sell by then, she was already a pretty grown-up lady. But my sister would not have it because nobody was buying stuff at home, my mom was falling sick for trekking long distances hawking. She hawks all the way from Orile agege to ogba, berger, agidingbi ikeja, alausa, so my sister insisted she would go or the wares would get spoilt and we would lose money and also we would have to eat them ourselves because nobody would be willing to them after a day or two and we can't just throw them away.

When i came back from school one day and i heard how far she was going, i had to tell our last born (he was already a teenager), who was doing 'baby of the house' and refused to hawk that he has to do start hawking properly now. Though soon afterwards my eldest sister got a Job and the pressure eased off and then we totally stopped selling anything. We had sold too many things to count ' bread, groundnut, igba, soap, yam, plantain, beans, cooked food, gala, meat pie, donkua, salt, etc. Now the only business we let her help us with is to join my younger brothers take care of our foreign breed dogs. She loves dogs and when we sell the puppies she also gets a cut