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4everGod:
Rejection of a belief automatically gives you a belief in your rejection. Do i need to break it down to you any further?

If you reject the belief that Seun Owns Nairaland that means you accept the belief that HE DOES NOT OWN nairaland.

This is elementary English. I am surprised you are debating this. Lmao

So if rejection of belief is a belief, why do dictionaries make that distinction?

luvmijeje:
I can't because I don't know what they felt. You tell me what they felt?

It's the same thing you're feeling... It's just false validation

luvmijeje:
I hope you didn't miss the part that says in spirit and in truth. John 4:24 says
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
So go and start faking it o, the all knowing God will know.

How do you know god is a spirit?

luvmijeje:
But I've seen his awesomeness. So something is missing. Please retrace your footstep.

You have seen God's awesomeness?? Well, that's the same thing Muslims, Ogun worshippers, Zeus worshippers and adherents of other religions claim... And u can't all be right.
So can u explain the awesomeness that adherents of other religion experience and how it is different from yours...

4everGod:
Quit trying to juggle English...what you do not know, you still do not know. Rejection of belief is simply unbelief as a noun.

Get with the programme.

British Dictionary definitions for unbelief Expand
unbelief
/ˌʌnbɪˈliːf/
noun
1.
disbelief or rejection of belief

Is rejection of belief also a belief? Because you claim atheists believe there is no god... So is rejection of belief also a belief.
It's a yes or no question

hopefulLandlord:
remember the Messi-Ronaldo analogy you and our medic Felixomor went through in a particular thread? he quickly jumped away from it once you've defeated it

Wow!! You remember that?!!

4everGod:


Indeed they do not know.

Nobody lives a life of unbelief but rather a life of belief in their unbelief. For example..... They DO NOT BELIEVE God or gods exist and this translates to them BELIEVING God or gods do not exist. Its simple as daily English language usage. Perhaps they went to a school different from the ones where we were taught use of English and literature.. smh

It's not and it has been explained severally on this forum and others. That u don't want to believe it doesn't change the fact. Even the dictionaries make the distinction between belief and absence or rejection of belief.

luvmijeje:
But I've told you the step to take for you to see God. Have you try desisting from all sins? Have you try serving him in spirit and in truth? Have you tried obeying all his commandments?

If you've done all these and you still didn't see God, let me know.

See this one sha... I was probably a more committed Christian than you are right now. All my classmates thought I will become a pastor....
I know what you will say, I was not a real Christian, never had a real relationship with god, bla,bla, bla... The same thing a Muslim will say about another Muslim that converted to Christianity....
And if God cannot prove his existence to all people then what kind of a god is he?

luvmijeje:
No.

When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be punished; for the slave is his money.”
—Exodus 21:20-21 (RSV)

Now do u believe the bible or not

luvmijeje:
Hehehe.. .. .. . Frank will not kill me o. I'll tell you why it's a great post. You're telling Christians who believe in God by faith to prove the existence of God... .. .. Did christians ever claim that they can logically prove the existence of God who's beyond human understanding?

But Atheist who called themselves logical thinkers said there's no God.... .. .. oya prove it logically?

You never prove negative... That's impossible. U are the one to bring evidence of God, and he tells you why that supposed evidence doesn't prove god.... That's just pure common sense

luvmijeje:
Oga, who told you that the intention of the master was to discipline the slave to death? Nobody will have the intention of beating someone to death except you are a murderer.

So did the law talk about intentions? The bible permits a person to beat his slave to death. Yes/no.

GodsMopol:
Beating to death, did I hear that right, do you know what Jesus said before He finally went to heaven

Matthew 28:20 [/b]Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded[b] you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

A good Christian is a follower of Christ, an imitator of Christ, so in that vein, show me a place in the new testament where Jesus expressly commanded His disciples-you can include Paul and other disciples-to beat to death anyone and I would believe you

Simple question I need you to answer... Did your god permit beating a slave to death?

This Op is just being dishonest.
Your god endorses beating a slave to death, as long as the slave doesn't die immediately. How can you equate that to disciplining a child. Can you beat your child to death??
You don't want to admit that the god you believe in is the kind of God that will endorse acts as barbaric as slavery... But the facts are right there for all to see.

Instead of this guy to take his epic L in peace... He's still forming strong head....

So Christians cannot tell us what their communication with god has done for humanity?? Too bad

Was first wondering what the hell the Op was saying... Then I checked his other threads...
They are basically the same thing, incoherent rants.

nightingalee:
... Intelligence they say, is knowing tomatoe is a fruit, and Wisdom is knowing, it doesn't fit to be in a fruit salad.

No... That analogy is only relevant when comparing knowledge and wisdom

fav444:
1. Lucifer was reported to be a proud angel.
God hates pride. He just can't stand a proud person.

2. Scan through the Bible front and back, never is it on record that God refused or rejected a plea for mercy. We were not told that Lucifer pleaded. If he had, who knows God wouldnt have rejected it. The difference between David and Eli was that the former always asked for mercy each time he trespassed while the latter said "He is God let Him do what He deems fit.

God is going to reject the eternal pleas of mercy of the people in hell. So you're wrong

felixomor:
Atheists have killed More than all religions combined.
Using stats from only china, russia alone......

Besides on what moral grounds is an atheist talking from?

Keep deceiving yourself...

Everybody just wants to gain traffic on their thread by using the words "atheists"... Shior!!!

OLAADEGBU:
Were you not made of a woman? Without your mother would you exist? Now that you exist do you want to claim that your are superior to your mother?

What exactly are you saying?
Doesn't the bible clearly state that women are made FOR men? Not OF, FOR!!
Or you're just trying to digress because your lies have been found out.

Christians and lies tho'....
When the bible clearly states that women are made FOR men and women shouldn't be allowed to speak in church.
How is this gender equality?

luvmijeje:
Now that you also have admitted that 42 boys running and jeering after a man of God was wrong.

I'll also admit that Elisha should have had more control knowing he carries the auction of God on him. The scripture was a lesson to all prophets. That's why you hardly see a man of God cursing but remember they're human.

Why can't you admit god was wrong to honor those words... Is honoring the words of a misguided prophet more important than the lives of 42 children

Ibime:
Best midfielder in the world that makes no goals, no assists and only 50 passes per game. Yeah right. Best midfielder in the world yet his club has been renamed Messi FC cos it's clear he has no influence and no expectations are placed on him. He is just there for the ride like the carryalong he has always been.


Modric who was Lampards boy has been shïtting all over him in Laliga and all neutral observers say Modric has been far better. Mind you Modric is Lampards junior in EPL oh.


This is the grace and favour of playing for a mega team with superstars that help you get to finals and win things so you can be in the conversation for awards. It is a grace that Iniesta has played under all his career. Modric who is no different a player than he was at Spurs is now living under the same grace.

You can cry all you want but people whose opinions actually count have repeatedly chosen iniesta as the best midfielder of his time.
Iniesta is a better passer, better dribbler than lampard. He has better positioning, better decision making and better tactical intelligence. He's not like lampard who exposes his defense by always bursting into the box. He uses brain to play.
If we visit iniesta's and lampard's medals room, the difference will be clear. Iniesta has won significantly more than lampard in both team and individual trophies.
Iniesta has consistently performed at the highest stages where lampard has failed. The Euros for example, and the world cup. Iniesta made the best eleven of the world cup and won Best player at the euros. Best player, not best midfielder...
What is lampard's highest achievement?

Ibime:
Yeah because Drogba, Cech and Cole are better than MSN who score 120+ goals in a season..

In summary, nobody in football has won with more inferior players than Lampard.

When others are winning with Messi, Suarez, Neymar, Kroos, Xavi, Bale, one fool will be saying Lampard can't win anything without Cech, 34 year old Drogba and 32 year old Cole. Kai, God will not like this level of dishonesty oh.

All this Chelsea fans... Keep deceiving yourselves. When it comes to actual ratings like best midfielder, iniesta beats lampard hands down. Iniesta is still recognized as the best midfielder in the world even at his age...

*facepalm*

luvmijeje:
I observed you're not condemning what kicked off the judgement in the first place Your first question should have been why will the so call children jeered the man of God to the the extent it warrant a curse?

Now if you don't see any big deal then you can't question God.

I also noticed in your write up that you're attempting to dictate the punishment God should give to those who broke his law. After he expressly stated the repercussions in his law. Sorry there's a reason why you're a man and he's God.

I would have love to go deep into his words with you but you will be a waste of my time because you don't believe in God talk less of his words.

It goes without saying that children jeering an old man is disrespectful, but killing children because of that. If a child disrespects you, would you get a knife and stab the child to death? Children are prone to do st.upid things but if a god starts acting stu.pid , then there's a problem.
And if you're claiming, we shouldn't criticize laws after they have been made, then you've got another thing coming. If a god cannot make laws that makes sense then why is he god? Even humans do a better job of that.

luvmijeje:
Calm down...... . So much fury. I didn't rationalize anything. I responded with God's words. Isiah 44:26 says
That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers; that saith to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be inhabited; and to the cities of Judah, Ye shall be built, and I will raise up the decayed places thereof:

Where there is no law, there's no crime. God have stated his law and he who does not abide should get ready for destruction. Who are you to tell the Potter, this how I want to you make me?

If you don't respect God that's your cup of tea but who are you to demean others that do?

Only an idiot creates laws that ... And u didn't answer my question, if his god's prophet says god would stop being god will he honor it.
The words of God that u responded with don't justify the barbaric acts of God, neither did they explain the blatant uselessness and redundancy of God's response to man's wickedness.
My questions are simple. Why would God choose a prophet that will kill children? And if God is compelled by the words of his chosen prophet, is he really omnipotent?
As someone already opined, your for god is not just as bad as Hitler and his likes, he's much worse. Just imagine if God was a head of state.
Well, I don't have to imagine. We saw how much the Israelites suffered because of the tantrums of the almighty

Another post that clearly depicts the kind of barbaric, pathetic thinking that the Christian religion employs to justify unconscionable acts of their god.
God destroyed the whole world with flood in a fit of anger. That includes babies and toddlers. All of them were drowned. Were the babies too wicked?
And to make the decision more senseless, the destruction of the world didn't change anything, the people god used to replace those he destroyed were as bad. So that act didn't solve anything. Surely a god should think before acting?
Again, this person is trying to justify 42 children being torn to pieces by bears. So it was okay for god to honor those words of a prophet? If the prophet says god should stop being god, will god honor his words. Why choose a prophet that would command the death of many children in the first place.
The person who created the original thread was right. Your god is a sadistic bastard. Your attempts to rationalize these acts is pathetic

The world will be a better place without religion... Not a perfect or ideal place but definitely better. If people don't have to pay tithes, they would have extra money to take care of other things.
The sentiments involved in elections would be reduced by one.
There will be less noise pollution.
Muslims would not kill Christians simply because they are Christians.
People will be more liberal and objective. Racism, misogyny, paedophilia, terrorism will reduce.
The world would not be perfect but it will be much better.

Image123:
You tell me how you know it's not done by the devil. God said so.

God said so?? How do u know he's not lying. The evidence we have shows god is much more wicked than the devil. Your own bible shows that

Image123:
Oh this, the OP is wrong because he incompetently failed to count the number of havoc wrought by the devil on earth where he lives and claims to exist.

How do we know the evil on earth where we exist is not done by god?