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4everGod:
I guess the OP indeed was gibberish to you since you said thats what science looks like to you. So if science sounds like gibberish to you how then do you know what evolution is all about? Have you suddenly now known how to interpret scientific language?

Everywhere in the OP leading physicists and biochemists with nobel laureates have all denied evolution and their ramblings.

Since you are suddenly now science inclined can you attempt to refute the OP?

Where did I say an science inclined... Evolution is what it is, a theory. Your epistle doesn't make it any more or less so... People who claim evolution show fossils showing a gradual transformation from one form of life to another, the chemical and anatomical similarities of related life forms e.t.c. these claims are not proof but they serve as suggestion of a theory
Creationism has been so debunked that the SCOTUS has held that it shouldn't be taught in public schools either as an addition or alternative to mainstream evolutionary theory

DoctorAlien:
Yes. It certainly holds greater appeal to reason that lightning struck a soup of chemicals(that came from nowhere) and suddenly amoeba appeared and then became a worm and suddenly dinosaurs are everywhere.

That's very very reasonable.

There is evidence, not proof of evolution. Gimme one evidence of creation.
And how does this make sense... A being never seen or heard who had been existing for eternity just decided one day to make the world. And then he says let there be light, bla, bla, bla... And he created light before he created the sun... Abeg where light come from....
The scientific inaccuracy of your stories alone render them ridiculous

Abayor7:
Sorry bro, is this a year's stat or their whole carrier?

Oh... You want a years stats??
Ronaldo- 55 games, 51 goals, 17 assists
Messi- 61 games, 58 goals, 32 assists
Is this what u need?

4everGod:
Every single atheist who graced this thread suddenly went unscientific and all began to shy away from using science to disprove the OP. Is there no atheist brave enough to attempt a detailed demolishing of the OP or are they all as cowardly as i thought and full of nothing but BS and red herrings and continuous acts of deception?

I dare any of them to disprove the OP with science same way the OP has disproved evolution with the same science. If evolution is true then disprove the OP.

Evolution still remains what it is, a theory. Many atheists don't even necessarily believe in evolution. But it holds greater appeal to reason than the creation story.
And I don't know why u suddenly have the idea that disproving evolution makes creationism more credible

olumosen:
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My people abeg na who send messi say make hin no get appearance. When hin mate dey play na where hin dey? Abi we no dey see players wey get appearance pass people wey senior dem 2 years.

This is an asinine comment... Ronaldo is 2 and a half years older than Messi... Try to apply common sense next time

Brizle:
who played more games??

Messi but he directly contributed to 22 more goals. That's a lot

hopefulLandlord:
haven't you noticed most atheists ignore that guy? wouldn't be too bad an idea for you to do the same

I read his reply to you and I see what you are saying now

Eastactivist:
Sorry I don't worship any god

Wow!! That's amazing!! Such a concise and clever comment

adeaks:
Which nonsense stats are you talking about.

If that's the case, a player can go to China or India, score 80 goals at the end of the season and we have to crown him Best in the world.....after all the stats would show that he scored the highest number of goals in all the leagues.

The point is, scoring a lot of goals and assisting without having trophies is like pouring water in a basket. To be the best in the world you should not only have the stats, you should have trophies too.

Messi and Ronaldo both have great stats in 2016 but while one of them was leading his country to a historic title, the other was sulking his way to an international retirement....even with all his stats.

This is silly... So a person cannot win trophies in China?? Did Messi score his goals in China?

Brizle:
look at the stats urself 55 games to 61 games

6 more games, 7 more goals, 15 more assists

MaksmanBello:
Make ur papa SHUT UP.....Sorry they can't be compared. CR7 remains the best. ZIDANE coached him without experience and he won it last season. Go put small sense in ur head b4 u come here OLODO

You enjoy being stupid right? Because I don't see how anyone should make this kind of comment. When guarduiola coached Messi, did he have experience? At least Ferguson and mourinho and ancelotti have coached Ronaldo

Brizle:
what stats please?

Ronaldo- 55 games, 51 goals, 17assists
Messi- 61 games, 58 goals, 32 assists

bidak:
Nobody is saying ronaldo is better or not just saying ronaldo has a better year and he fully deserve the ballon d'or

No he didn't...

ambassagod:
hahahaha

it is like telling buhari to hammer Amaechi.

lol

That's not true... Got banned last week, but why let objectivity get in the way of your preferred narrative? It's the same idea that fuels Christianity

Brizle:
Perhaps messi may av performed beta dan ronaldo in some el clasico or otherwise. Ronaldo has had a better year...#ucl #eurocup #supercup and hopefully #clubworldcup he deserves this aword and he is one of the greatest players ever...

U can't just point to trophies and say Ronaldo has performed better this year... What about the actual stats??

adeaks:
The 21 goals you are counting for Messi, are you including those goals Messi scored against Madrid BEFORE Ronaldo joined them?

It's simple maths... Divide number of goals scored by number of matches played. Messi still leads

KingEbukasBlog:
The Watchers may have been involved in getting those animals from different parts of the world to Noah .

Ion get... Who are the watchers?

Eastactivist:
Sorry sire, i think i went overboard,

No one produced God. I stand to be corrected

Well... That's convenient, isn't it... God created the first man but nobody created god...
An idea just came to me now... How do u know that the god u worship is not just like a governor or representative. That there is another being who commissioned him to create the earth and give the law

KingEbukasBlog:
The Holy Spirit is more interested in your soul making Heaven . The literal or allegorical interpretation of Noah's flood is certainly nobody's problem . Christians lay little or no emphasis on the story .

Actually they do... And with the overwhelming instances of scientific impracticability in that story, the holy spirit should have made it a point of duty to tell them it was an allegory... So that Christians will stop insulting our intelligence by saying a man packed millions of species of animals on a both together for hundreds of days... Some animals don't even live that long

MaksmanBello:
If that's how u tell ur father Shut up @ home don't bring it here. It shows u have poor home training. The facts remains, u like it or not they can't be compared, let Messi leave his comfort zone(Barca) and go else where even in Spain his career will just end. CR7 remains the best, tested in England and Spain. lastly learn to SHUT UP b4 u say anoda shut up again. Mungu man.

Shut up...CR7 played for the best team in England coached by the best manager ever. And then played for the most expensive team ever... He has no excuse

Brizle:
You are the ignorant one here....messi has been playing against real madrid for 6 good seasons before ronaldo arrived.

But his goals per average is still more Ronaldo. Not to mention assists

Eastactivist:
Mind you, you have shielded my question but I will answer you.
God is not man.
Man can reproduce.
God can't, why?? because reproduction is a man's feature which God added to man to automate the process of creation.
God is the creator and not reproducer, that will be my response to him.

Wtf!! How does this answer my question?? I asked who created god and u answer is god cannot reproduce?? Am not talking about god's reproductive powers, am asking who or what produced god??
I think u should read my question and your comment again. They are not related at all

KingEbukasBlog:
Go and argue with archaeologists who made the discovery and show them why they are wrong

Really?? That's a market women style of argument. U brought the evidence of the research and I want you to show me how those research prove that the story in the bible happened as it was recorded

DoctorAlien:
Then go and sit down. Most of you when exposed begin to appeal to ignorance. That was how the other was stating emphatically that every human is as a result of reproduction. When asked about the first human, he began to appeal to ignorance.

Prove that man was not created by GOD as the Bible says or you hold your peace.

Exposed?? The claims of the bible are neither evidence or proof. The idea that man was created by god is as credible as the idea of the earth bring created by oduduwa... I don't need to prove the non- existence of a fact by bringing positive arguments or evidence. I only need to show that the claims of the bible have not been confirmed and are not sufficient proof of creation...
That's how it works in a court of law BTW

Eastactivist:
Really?? And so ends your arguments??

So how will you explain to a boy who then ask you.
Sire or daddy, you said that people are born from people, who then born the first people? Will your answer to his question be what you put up there??

I really Can't wait to see the look on the face of the innocent lad.
Pure case of delusion of grandeur

So when a boy asks you, who created god... What would you say?

KingEbukasBlog:
Nobody is dogmatic about his opinions on that issue . Nobody is claiming that he got his opinion from the Holy Spirit . Simple .

But they should be able to right... That's one of his duties, isn't it? U guys shouldn't be dealing with opinions at all, the holy spirit would teach u all things according to your bible

KingEbukasBlog:
Dude , I said sometimes - this means some Christians see it as an allegorical and some see it as literal .

Here is MrPresident1 who sees almost everything as an allegory : https://www.nairaland.com/1573781/allegorical-stories-daniel-job-noah

Even then... Archeological findings of burnt cities don't mean that God sent his fire on them. Does it??

DoctorAlien:
Calm down. I'm not asking you to prove the d(F(x))/dx = 2xyIn3xsin2. The Bible says that the first man was created by GOD. Prove that the Bible is wrong.

Stop running away from the proof. It is not mathematical induction.

The onus is on u to prove the claims of the bible... It's just like me asking u to prove that batman is not real... Can you prove it??

KingEbukasBlog:
Nature serves as Evidence for God .

Nature is not evidence of god... If anything, it's evidence that there is no god... There are plants that kill people, there is a worm whose lifespan is only to eat the eyes of human beings, there are NATURAL disasters... People die from winter's frostbite and summer's heatstroke...
U cannot ascribe the beauty of nature to god whilst ignoring it's ugliness

KingEbukasBlog:
How is this abstruse ? I clearly said 'sometimes' . There are so many Christians in the early centuries even before the archaeological evidences for many other bible stories who took the aforementioned events as allegorical .

Why can noah's flood be allegorical and Sodom and Gomorrah not be... They are basically the same message

BiafranBushBoy:
How true is this? .

So in a layman's term, what is your belief as an Atheist

I don't believe in god as portrayed by the Abrahamic religions

DoctorAlien:
But he was the one that said with certainty that "every human is as a result of reproduction."

I know for sure that not every human being who has existed was as a result of reproduction. The first human must necessarily be created by GOD. The Bible tells me so.

Now over to you. Prove that the Bible is not true.

The onus of proof is on you... Even in the courts of law, u are not required to prove the negative. That's why the onus is on he who asserts