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PoliticsRe: Bomb Explosion At Mararaban In Jos - 4 Injured by rawtruth(m): 10:30am On Jul 05, 2012
ebamma: what do u expect when we have a fisherman's son as president?
. What do u mean? What would u say of d President of Pakhistan, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq,Syria and other arab/Islamic countries where bombs go off daily, like knockouts on Xmas eve. Blame d religion-Islam, for having no safeguards against such dangerous ideological cravings among its highly segmented adherents.
PoliticsRe: Attackers Kill 9 Construction Workers’ In Maiduguri by rawtruth(m): 2:06pm On Jul 03, 2012
2ruink: sons of boko again? why are they after their boko brothers?
. That's no longer a strange event within d Islamic enclave; out there in Timbuktu, Mali, members of d Ansar Dine sect, which is an ally of al-qaeda just like boko haram, are busy destroying tombs, mosques and other structures they considered to symbols of opposition to 'Allah''s ways. The only surprising thing in Nigeria's case may be d high level of hypocracy among northern muslim elites who, instead of openly taking side with either boko haram or d govt, are busy talking about 'political boko haram', 'Christians bombing their Churches', etc.
Christianity EtcRe: Understanding Religious Delusion by rawtruth(m): 8:31pm On Jun 29, 2012
musKeeto: Thanks I do realise that. Maybe you should check up the meaning of agnosticism.
And note: I said 'religion freedom' not 'God freedom'
Your last sentence has cleared my 'confusion'.
Christianity EtcRe: Understanding Religious Delusion by rawtruth(m): 8:08pm On Jun 29, 2012
musKeeto: Read some of Frosbels latest threads. That guy is heading towards agnosticism.. he may not accept it, but thats how my journey to 'religion freedom' began..
You start questioning hell, begin to accomodate opposing views, next REASON tells you to be free..
If you are trying to separate belief in God from religion then 'fine and good', but if you are lumping the two together and trying to convince anyone that who questions religion questions the reality of God, as can be inferred from the above comment, then you got it wrong. Remember that religion, which is man's ways of worshipping God and obeying His perceived instructions may be wrongly 'constructed; as is clear from the history of crimes committed in the name of God through religious concepts. God is different from religion.
Christianity EtcRe: "t.b Joshua's Miracle Is Fake And Unverifiable" Former Church Members by rawtruth(m): 8:41am On Jun 29, 2012
Davoo36: GOD ALMIGHTY WILL JUDGE U ALL FOR CRITICIZING MAN OF GOD. HW THERE U PUT CRITICS TO THE MAN OF GOD U ARE INVARIABLY CONDEMING UR SELF, TAKE IT OR LEAVE DESSIST FROM CONDEMING PASTORS, STOP IT!
Don't mind them. The spiritually empty are usually full of doubts, even of their own thoughts and deeds.
Christianity EtcRe: If Reincarnation Were Real, What Animal Would You Like To Re Incarnate? by rawtruth(m): 5:12pm On Jun 27, 2012
Jenwitemi: I totally disagree with you here, bro. There is nothing like "human spirit" or "animal spirit", bro. Spirit is spirit and it is the same for all living organisms, simple or complex, terrestrial or extra-terrestrial. The spirit remains the same in it's formlessness because it is the ONLY THING IN EXISTENCE.

But the most important information here is that the spirit can incarnate in whatever form it chooses to experience reality in and at whatever time it chooses.
God is ONE SPIRIT besides whom there is none. But the 'one spirit' sends out radiations that are graded into categories, each playing its assigned roles within the framework of creation; the human 'spirit' (maybe you would prefer 'Sub-spirit') also has its identity among these gradations (or radiations from the 'one spirit'). Once these gradations assumed their willed characteristics they develop within defined premises; the human spirit to the human form-which carries all that is needed for its development on earth..., no cross-reincarnation! Therefore, to say that the spirit can choose whatever (physical)form it wishes to experience (physical) reality is to infer that that 'one spirit' has no definite purpose for its existence.
Christianity EtcRe: If Reincarnation Were Real, What Animal Would You Like To Re Incarnate? by rawtruth(m): 7:59am On Jun 26, 2012
tobechi20: I just recieved 5 guest from thn grail movement. They came to explain to me some of their doctrines.They spent a gud time explaining re incarnation. To me they did a gud job especialy d way they linkd it wit the bible.howeva, i was mostly absent minded.


While the sermon was going on , i was imagining myself re incarnating like an animal.'which animal would be suitable" ?i thought

a hen, so i would b a suspect evry celebration time

a dog, lovd by man but shud neva find myself in crossriva state

a pig godforbid, fat dirty etc
a bird....beta....so i can fly.......but whch bird...definitly not vulture

finaly they are through with their incarnation preaching. But am stil thinking of the animal i would prefer to incarnate if gven the chance to choose.
Christianity EtcRe: If Reincarnation Were Real, What Animal Would You Like To Re Incarnate? by rawtruth(m): 7:58am On Jun 26, 2012
tobechi20: I just recieved 5 guest from thn grail movement. They came to explain to me some of their doctrines.They spent a gud time explaining re incarnation. To me they did a gud job especialy d way they linkd it wit the bible.howeva, i was mostly absent minded.


While the sermon was going on , i was imagining myself re incarnating like an animal.'which animal would be suitable" ?i thought

a hen, so i would b a suspect evry celebration time

a dog, lovd by man but shud neva find myself in crossriva state

a pig godforbid, fat dirty etc
a bird....beta....so i can fly.......but whch bird...definitly not vulture

finaly they are through with their incarnation preaching. But am stil thinking of the animal i would prefer to incarnate if gven the chance to choose.
you were really absent-minded, otherwise u would have heard them saying that d human spirit would always reincarnate as human being and not into another form of life. Humanbeings only share only d gross material world with d other creatures but not so in d higher spheres where every thing is defined in its non-material characteristics b4 descending and incarnating through d various species on this earth. So, u can always reincarnate as a humanbeing, but with a personality that is built in line with ur predominant attitude during ur previous earth-life-unless u had put in some effort to redeem or lose what was lost or gained b4 ur death, in which case u reap what u sowed. The human origin is spiritual while d animals are from d animistic, so they can never reincarnate into the other. I hope u would pay a better attention when next d grail people call on u. Thank u.
PoliticsRe: Boko Haram Denies Involvement In Kano Mosque Bombing Plot by rawtruth(m): 10:38am On Jun 24, 2012
werepeLeri: setup by who? conspiracy by who?
. By those who have been trying hard to 'prove' that Christians are also involved in d bombing of Churches, and may equally bomb Mosques. So far d 'game' looks pretty unconvincing. Instead of d muslims to join hands with their Christian co-theists to deal with d evil called boko haram in their midst they are busy planning how to be victims. Only a baby can't see that pitiably childish tactic. The bitter reality will certainly be tasted by all of us should we allow this evil ideology to become what its proponents want it to be-our way of life!
PoliticsRe: Gun Battle Between JTF And Boko Haram In Kano by rawtruth(m): 10:00am On Jun 21, 2012
Tadup: in islam there is only one unique God and Muhammad is His messenger. The Holy quran is unchanged not by a single alphabet and will ever remain unchanged till the end of the world and no body can change it because it is protected by Allah. Jesus is a messenger of Allah who came before Muhammad and the bible he brought was not given similar protection as quran by Allah, that is why human being temper with the content of the bible the way they like, removing the chapters that describe Muhammad and how they can identify him and believe in him. This is the major reason why the christians are not on the right path and will ever remain there till they believe in Allah and Muhammad.
The usual delusion. If the Quran remains unchanged but does not offer and recipes for love and peace, accommodating every view and actions, provided they are done in the name of Allah and Prophet Mohammed, then you can rest assured that Christians will never believe in that Allah and Mohammed in the Quran.

For your information, the Bible is a Holy and perfect book of life; it explains both the good and the bad of human behaviour. The central message however remains that of love and peace.

Nigerian Christians have for long endured all sorts of provocations from Islamic sects whose members live among the so-called 'Moderates'and carry out attacks on Churches and individual Christians and run back into the fold. If Islam is a religion of Peace as claimed by its adherents, they would not allow the likes of boko haram and al-qaeda to dwell and flourish among them.

Surely, the failure by Islamic scholars to recognise and explain the historical perspective in the quran to ordinary muslims has created rooms for all sorts of interpretations and the violence that have become integral qualities of Islam today. Muslims must separate the time Mohammed started the religion from the realities of today before they could best appreciate their deficiencies and strength.
PoliticsRe: Kaduna Is Back To 24hours Curfew by rawtruth(m): 7:25pm On Jun 19, 2012
Ex Inferis: im refering to the christian bastardization of Isa (AS), that fagg0t they claim is the son of god. that harl0t banging crook they made out of thin air. he who fools them into thinking they can crap all over the place and get away with it simply by drinking his vampiric blood. yeah. that jesus.
Conceptually deep, however, the vituperations and unguarded invectives therein indicate a mindset devoid of noble ideals that are the essential elements of a believer in the "most compassionate God". There is only one Jesus (Isa)known to both Christians and muslims, so even if you are referring to the wrong one created by wrong concept of Him by Christians, your choice of words shows that the name Jesus means nothing to you. It may well be that even your "concept" of God is defective. Just an observation.
PoliticsRe: Christian Youths Kill Muslims In Reprisal Attacks At Gonin Gora, Kaduna by rawtruth(m): 8:00pm On Jun 17, 2012
lacasa: These bombs are unfortunate aπϑ worse still the president is lacklustre in stopping this.

But, if not for seeking τ̅o cause more trouble, the christian youths rioting in kaduna are adding petrol τ̅o fire.

Christians attack innocent muslims, aπϑ the muslims revenge, aπϑ the result will be catastrophic. Aπϑ the christians will be annihilated cos the muslims are more in terms of numbers. ​ so ​ watz D̶̲̥̅̊ point of dis?

2ndly, wat proof do this idiots have τ̅o confirm D̶̲̥̅̊aτ̲̅ even a muslim bombed this churcheshuh

3rdly, what proof do this same idiots have D̶̲̥̅̊aτ̲̅ these bombs killed only christians n not muslims as well. Abi bombs select who is christian aπϑ who is muslimhuh

if the muslim community, after bearing the most casualties in bokoharam's violent onslaught from 2009 τ̅o date, is seeking for peace, (despite all the non-muslims, christians, †ђªt have been caught red-handed attempting τ̅o blow up their own places of worship), have never called for a massacre on christians for trying τ̅o blame it on the muslim community, then wat reason do they have τ̅o kill innocent muslimshuh

Furthermore, if GEJ a christian president, says he knows who the boko-haram sponsors are, if the NSA Azazi, a Christian as well says PDP are responsible for this, then what right do christian youths have τ̅o attack muslims on the streetshuh


The earlier we know who our enemies are, i.e politicians, the better for our existence.

But, if they prefer an all out religious war which is what those doing this bombings want i.e - ( τ̅o divide us on religious lines), then i assure U̶̲̥̅̊ that every nigerian on this earth will be affected aπϑ wld wish we reasoned with our brains rather than with our hearts.

God help our country..amen
You may be right to some extent but, on the other hand, it can be correctly argued that muslims don't value their lives that is why they allow terrorists to live and flourish among them. Where are these boko haram terrorists staying? Do you think they reside among the Christians and bomb Churches without anyone seeing them? You don't seem to have taken note of the grand conspiracy of silence among the Hausa/Fulani/Kanuri muslims in the north. Why are there no terrorists among the Yoruba muslims in the west, or the Igalas of Kogi state? Are they not using the same Quran? Look, these people have long considered themselves Arabs and they are now acting 'Arabically'. If they wished to be exonerated from blame let them come out and chase these animals from their midst, they know them!
PoliticsRe: Artillery Fire, Sporadic Gunshot At Naibawa & Darmunawa In Kano by rawtruth(m): 2:43pm On Jun 15, 2012
worm: ^
Did you see anywhere in my post stating it never happened? 'boom' 'boom' can come from grenades or even a big gun. The reporter even mentioned "Military apache helicopter" to polish his report. Do you know what Artillery or military apache helicopter is?
Well, you ended with "Kano? No". At least, that is capable of being interpreted as "it did not happen in kano". So don't blame me for making that comment.

And, I have seen Apache helicopters and read newspaper reports or articles where Artillery have been mentioned. Maybe I'm lucky that I haven't been near any place where Artillery has been fired, so I have no idea what it does, and I don't wish to have such an idea. Brief history of 'Apache': it's the name of an Indian tribe found mainly in the US, Mexico and a few South American countries, known for bravery in warfare (In those days), so, I have answered your question. But don't tell me an apache military helicopter flying over a section of kano city must be seen or heard by everyone in that huge town, because the reporter didn't say it fired any shot.
PoliticsRe: Artillery Fire, Sporadic Gunshot At Naibawa & Darmunawa In Kano by rawtruth(m): 1:32pm On Jun 15, 2012
worm: Wow! unbelievable. I am in Kano right now but i only know about this "breaking news" on nairaland. Sporadic gunshots (may be) because JTF usually raid the suspects houses in the night, but 'Artillery Fire' in Kano? NO.
Don't confuse anyone who might really want to know what's going there; someone just sent a message to a friend that his eardrums are paining him because of the boom! boom! and pau!Pau! that have been going since 3 am near his house in kano. By the way, Kano is a big city so just because you don't know what's happening in another part it's not happening at all.
PoliticsRe: Farouk Lawan Contacted Us After He Discovered The Money Was Mark:police by rawtruth(m): 11:47am On Jun 14, 2012
doctokwus: Apt.A sting operation(whc now seems to av a nigerian definition or variant,just like every other thing) when executed,usually d culprit(s) is immediately apprehended in order not to lose d evidence,get it tampered wt or allow d culprit get-a-away.But in dis distorted,abused,hazy& clearly full of questions version,it has taken 2whole mths for it to b brought to d open,surprisingly,not by d security agency said to have masterminded& financed d operation but by one of d subjects under serious suspicion of state fraud.This is classic,nigerian sting operation!
Thank you. I continue to ponder the same question: is it because we have no respect for money, so much, that hundreds of thousands of dollars would be given out by security agencies in a sting operation and left in possession of a 'suspect' for months? Lawan is not covered by the immunity clause so why didn't the SSS catch him with the money right there; which would have shortened the now lengthy processes of invitation, begging to recover the 'exhibit', and all what nots? We are mentally muddled-up in this country!
PoliticsRe: Farouk Lawan Contacted Us After He Discovered The Money Was Mark:police by rawtruth(m): 11:47am On Jun 14, 2012
doctokwus: Apt.A sting operation(whc now seems to av a nigerian definition or variant,just like every other thing) when executed,usually d culprit(s) is immediately apprehended in order not to lose d evidence,get it tampered wt or allow d culprit get-a-away.But in dis distorted,abused,hazy& clearly full of questions version,it has taken 2whole mths for it to b brought to d open,surprisingly,not by d security agency said to have masterminded& financed d operation but by one of d subjects under serious suspicion of state fraud.This is classic,nigerian sting operation!
Thank you. I continue to ponder the same question: is it because we have no respect for money, so much, that hundreds of thousands of dollars would be given out by security agencies in a sting operation and left in possession of a 'suspect' for months? Lawan is not covered by the immunity clause so why didn't the SSS catch him with the money right there; which would have shortened the now lengthy processes of invitation, begging to recover the 'exhibit', and all what nots? We are mentally muddled-up in this country!
PoliticsRe: Farouk Lawan Contacted Us After He Discovered The Money Was Mark:police by rawtruth(m): 11:24am On Jun 14, 2012
Nigeria: the smelly rot continues to ooze out!
PoliticsRe: Bomb Blast In Jos (ECWA Church, Along Rukuba Road) by rawtruth(m): 4:42pm On Jun 10, 2012
Another Okija: How did they know it was the hand of the pastor?!

a. The gold rolex wristwatch on the writs

b. The expensive cufflinks on the cuffs attached to him.

c. The wad of cash in his hands

d. The microphone in is hands..

cool
Clap for yourself for being such a passive, unemotional and cold-blooded 'critic' of Pastors and the Church!
PoliticsRe: Bomb Blast In Jos (ECWA Church, Along Rukuba Road) by rawtruth(m): 4:22pm On Jun 10, 2012
aurenflani: In Damaturu d yobe state capital Muslims are gunned down on a ratio of one muslim par day for sometime now. D must suspicious part of dis is dat with d exception of foreign media no media house in naija takes a second look at this.

Killing of a muslim a day and bombing of churches at intervals every now and then in addtion to the rest of d other attacks here and there shows dat d state is in comatose with regards to effective governance - highly careless leadership.

I suspect a separatist org at work.
You can apply and be appointed the Yobe correspondent of any popular news media of your choice. Meanwhile, 'comatose' state of affairs in a country shouldn't be enough reason to bomb Churches or attack anyone, using the Quran as justification. It's simply a manifestation of evil from a religion that has no structure within its main body to take care of dangerous outgrowths like the one we are presently witnessing in Nigeria and elsewhere. Don't try to hoodwink anyone with such unfit comparison.
PoliticsRe: 30 KIlled In Clashes Between Alago & Berom People In Nasawara by rawtruth(m):
NorthSharp: Thanks for this brief but highly informative and largely plausible and unbiased analysis.

Human history is full of instances of nasty and desperate power games that are often characterized by divide-and-rule/conquer antics, and it would, unfortunately, continue to be so!.
I don't share your pessimism, or is it optimism? ...considering the fact that those being manipulated shall one day see through the veil of deceit, and shall take steps to return to where they were b4 the arrival of the 'manipulators'.
PoliticsRe: Suicide Bomber Blows Up Church In Bauchi by rawtruth(m): 2:36pm On Jun 03, 2012
Those blaming GEJ are too shallow to appreciate the complex doctrines of Islam, which has no structure within its main body to check those dangerous interpretations and their consequential metamorphoses into murderous sects and sub-sects from its purported singular identity. Islam appears to be a religion in a state of flux. One is tempted to link violence in the religion to the Arab culture of violence which has refused to wear out with time and, instead, have found religion as a handy tool for perpetuating that culture.

Most of our muslim fellows in the north consider themselves Arab, or semi-Arabs. That, perhaps, accounts for why Arab and western conflicts spontaneously induce overt or covert reaction from our muslim brothers in the north. Was Jonathan the president when thousands of people trooped out from their homes in Gusau and kano to celebrate the mass murder of nearly 3000 people by Bin Laden's alqaeda terrorists in New York? Jonathan was not in power when female muslim students of a secondary school in Gombe murdered their Christian teacher for allegedly "desecrating" the quran? What about the Miss World riots? These things have been there and have grown symbiotically with similar acts in the Arab/Islamic world. Jonathan is as helpless as anyone of us, as far as religious terrorism is concerned. If we continue to be deceived by the hoodwinking comments of the likes of El-Rufai, we shall continue to remain sitting targets for these brain-washed and blood-thirsty deviants.
PoliticsRe: 30 KIlled In Clashes Between Alago & Berom People In Nasawara by rawtruth(m):
Vanguard must apologise to berom people for using their name erroneously in a 'bloodbath news report'. The crisis was between Alago and Eggon people, both of Nassarawa state. Beroms are in far away plateau and nowhere near Assakio. A little historical perspective might help in understanding how these unfortunate incidents came about and refused to go.Most of the crises in central Nigeria in which land issues are at stake are the legacies of the British/Fulani alliance's divide-and-rule tactics, otherwise known as the Indirect Rule System. It is a historical fact that the Othman Danfodio led Jihad was not successful in penetrating most of the areas that today formed Nassarawa and Taraba states. Therefore, when the British colonialists sought to use the Fulani Caliphate's model of governance over other ethnic groups that had no such centralised system of leadership the Fulanis saw an opportunity to exercise their influence over those tribes that had resisted or defeated them on the battle fields during the Jihad. Their prime target was the Tiv people who had inflicted on them painful defeat during the Jihad, and who were not in the good books of the colonialists because of their tireless resistance to white man' s disregard for their own value systems. Among the tribes under the indirect rule system were those whom the British/fulani alliance had chosen to favour over the others. Men from such favoured tribes were crowned as chiefs and given some level power to decide cases, including land disputes. The Jukuns with an interesting history of kwararafa empire, which the British studied with keen interest, easily fit the cap in the Wukari area. Besides the Kanuri controlled emirate of Lafia, the Alagos were the next favoured tribe under the indirect rule over tribes like Tiv, Koro and a few others. The Tivs whose scattered settlement and egalitarian nature ran counter to the concentrated settlement of most ethnic groups and their centralised system of government fared worse under the indirect rule system as they were completely excluded from membership of council of chiefs. It then became easy for the Fulanis to access land whereever they wanted since these chiefs controlled lands under their jurisdictions and were bound to submit to the wishes of their fulani 'kingmakers'. Therefore, after the British left the Fulanis became the next "colonial masters". The Assakio mayhem is traceable to this submit-to-my-will-I-favour-you tactis of the British/fulani system which saw the more "ammenable" and ambitious Alagos being appointed chiefs over other tribes even in areas where such other tribes had settled long before the Alagos arrived. In the Assakio land dispute, Eggons are saying that the right people to decide who should own the piece of land in dispute are the Koros who were already settled in Assakio before the rest of them, including the Alagos, arrived. See what a foundation that was laid with the bricks of inordinate ambitions is now supporting as a structure! May the love of God, His wisdom and mercy be our guide at all time. Amen!
IslamRe: Can A Muslim Keep A Fixed Deposit Account? by rawtruth(m): 5:34pm On May 31, 2012
Remii: Bro Humblesoul

I visit Middle East regularly, Qatar and UAE to be precise and I know that Islamic banks there have fixed deposit account for their customers, instead of blanketly shutting Muslims away from banks there is need to find out the Islamic way of running the accounts.

Like I stated above the term "fixed" is flexible and you could get less or more than agreed amount depending on business outcome. The agreed amount would then serve as a means of making the bank strife to encourage your repeat business,

The prophet of Islam, (SAW) encourage us to learn and expand our depth of awareness, Allahu alam.
Your views and those of Humblesoul represent the moderate and extreme positions that have remained the bane of mankind's attempt to apply purely religious concepts on every fact of life. Apply Humblesoul's extreme position on moral issues and the resultant effect could be anything but orderly.
PoliticsRe: EFCC To Prosecute Herman Hembe by rawtruth(m): 4:58pm On May 10, 2012
Good luck to EFCC. We are likely to see more arraignments in the coming days.
Christianity EtcRe: Here Is A List Of Churches That Has Derailed In The Message Of Holiness. by rawtruth(m): 5:03pm On May 08, 2012
alexleo: Here are a list of churches whose messages centres heavily on earthly things rather than heavenly. In these churches, the message of holiness and eternity is hardly preached. They centre much on messages that the world want to hear and need i say that the high level of greed and corruption that has enveloped our country since these churches came out cannot be compared to what it used to be in the good old days when these churches were not there? This is so because they have ignored the words of our Lord Jesus where he said - seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you. Today they make people to seek prosperity first. They keep telling them the benefits of giving their money to the church without reminding them that no matter the amount of money you give to the work of God , if you dont give your soul to him and live a holy life you are heading to hell. They are so much after the people's money that they cant preach the hard core bible truth so as not to lose them as members which automatically amounts to a reduction in their income. We are not suprised though , because Jesus forewarned us in the scriptures that in the last days many false prophets shall arise and shall deceive many in his name. Today the words of Jesus is being fulfiled as we see in most of these new generation churches. This doesn't give a pass mark to all the old generation churches as some of them have derailed too due to the influence of the new generation churches.

winners chapel.
Christ Embassy.
House on the rock.
Redeemed mission.
RCCG.
Synagog church
mountain of fire - they are always pursuing demons.
Jehovah sharp sharp ministry.
KICC.
Rock family.

More are coming.
A pitiably failed attempt at comedy. poor joker.
Christianity EtcRe: TB Joshua Officially Banned From Cameroun by rawtruth(m): 2:36pm On May 07, 2012
Wisdytech: GOD RULES US! Nigeria should BAN him too from profesering here!!
I see that you have personal reasons. What harm has he done to Nigeria as a nation or Nigerians?. anyone who is offended by T B Joshua should go to court. By the way, have many times have you advocated for the "banning" of those politicians who have robbed Nigeria of billions of naira/Dollars? A sentimental and narrow-minded fellow, you are.
Christianity EtcRe: TB Joshua Officially Banned From Cameroun by rawtruth(m): 2:24pm On May 07, 2012
[quote author=S@NNiE]The Cameroonian government has blacklisted Prophet Temitope Balogun Joshua of the Synagogue Church of All Nations, saying that he is an agent of satan hoodwinking unsuspecting members of the public with “diabolical miracles”.

Cameroon Foreign Affairs Minister, Mr. Henri Eyebe Ayissi, in an official communiqué he issued titled: “The Devil Is In the House”, described T.B. Joshua as a “son of the devil” pretending to be “a man of God.”

The minister warned hundreds of Cameroonians, trooping to Lagos, South West Nigeria, for miracles in Joshua’s church, to desist from taking the trip or face the consequences, as the country will not stand by them.

The communiqué written in French read in part: “The Ministry of Foreign Affairs warns those who by naivety or deception of Emmanuel TV’s captivating images, or even those who by hopelessness, envisage taking the pilgrimage to Pastor T.B. Joshua’s Synagogue Church Of All Nations in Lagos, that they will do so at their own risk.

“The Cameroonian Government warns these pilgrims that they will face the consequences alone. This is motivated by the painful and shameful fact that Cameroonian men and women, in search of deliverance and blessings, once in that church, find themselves in bestial and pitiable conditions.

“Women are raped; pilgrims dispossessed of their belongings by armed robbers and left to sleep on the streets at the mercy of gangs. Many cases of assassinations have even been recorded. And this is without other cases that are not recorded at the Cameroonian Embassy in Lagos with the victims too ashamed to narrate their infernal odysseys once they are out of Hell,” the minister said.

The minister said that while the bible asks us to be discreet with gifts and donations to the poor, T.B. Joshua is seen daily dolling out bags of rice to indigent people.

It was learnt that hundreds of Cameroonians who sold their properties or borrowed money in the hope of getting miracles in T.B. Joshua’s Church, only got disappointed in Lagos.

It was also reported that Prophet TB Joshua’s TV station has gained popularity in Cameroon and many people are tempted to take the trip and receive healings and sudden blessings. It says that Joshua is now in many households in Cameroon and many people believe the flashy images they watch on television.

http://www.leadership.ng/nga/articles/23915/2012/05/07/tb_joshua_officially_banned_cameroun.html[/quote]So, the cameroonian foreign minister has become an "anointed" man of God with the powers of discerning genuine and fake prophets. Were those cameroonians dispossessed of their belongings inside the Church? This is a direct indictment of the government of Nigeria which is responsible for the security of life and property of its citizens and visitors. T B Joshua does not claim to be God who can be everywhere at the same time. I pity those cameroonians whose desire for spiritual freedom is now being threatened by their own govt. Very soon the same govt will deny that statement. Allies of ousted president Gbagbo have just come and apologised to T B Joshua for ignoring the invitation he extended to Gbagbo during the crises that led to his ouster and detention. Spiritual issues are vague to those who concentrate only on the physical. Such people deserve sympathy.
Christianity EtcRe: TB Joshua Officially Banned From Cameroun by rawtruth(m): 2:22pm On May 07, 2012
[quote author=S@NNiE]The Cameroonian government has blacklisted Prophet Temitope Balogun Joshua of the Synagogue Church of All Nations, saying that he is an agent of satan hoodwinking unsuspecting members of the public with “diabolical miracles”.

Cameroon Foreign Affairs Minister, Mr. Henri Eyebe Ayissi, in an official communiqué he issued titled: “The Devil Is In the House”, described T.B. Joshua as a “son of the devil” pretending to be “a man of God.”

The minister warned hundreds of Cameroonians, trooping to Lagos, South West Nigeria, for miracles in Joshua’s church, to desist from taking the trip or face the consequences, as the country will not stand by them.

The communiqué written in French read in part: “The Ministry of Foreign Affairs warns those who by naivety or deception of Emmanuel TV’s captivating images, or even those who by hopelessness, envisage taking the pilgrimage to Pastor T.B. Joshua’s Synagogue Church Of All Nations in Lagos, that they will do so at their own risk.

“The Cameroonian Government warns these pilgrims that they will face the consequences alone. This is motivated by the painful and shameful fact that Cameroonian men and women, in search of deliverance and blessings, once in that church, find themselves in bestial and pitiable conditions.

“Women are raped; pilgrims dispossessed of their belongings by armed robbers and left to sleep on the streets at the mercy of gangs. Many cases of assassinations have even been recorded. And this is without other cases that are not recorded at the Cameroonian Embassy in Lagos with the victims too ashamed to narrate their infernal odysseys once they are out of Hell,” the minister said.

The minister said that while the bible asks us to be discreet with gifts and donations to the poor, T.B. Joshua is seen daily dolling out bags of rice to indigent people.

It was learnt that hundreds of Cameroonians who sold their properties or borrowed money in the hope of getting miracles in T.B. Joshua’s Church, only got disappointed in Lagos.

It was also reported that Prophet TB Joshua’s TV station has gained popularity in Cameroon and many people are tempted to take the trip and receive healings and sudden blessings. It says that Joshua is now in many households in Cameroon and many people believe the flashy images they watch on television.

http://www.leadership.ng/nga/articles/23915/2012/05/07/tb_joshua_officially_banned_cameroun.html[/quote]So, the cameroonian foreign minister has become an "anointed" man of God with the powers of discerning genuine and fake prophets. Were those cameroonians dispossessed of their belongings inside the Church? This is a direct indictment of the government of Nigeria which is responsible for the security of life and property of its citizens and visitors. T B Joshua does not claim to be God who can be everywhere at the same time. I pity those cameroonians whose desire for spiritual freedom is now being threatened by their own govt. Very soon the same govt will deny that statement. Allies of ousted president Gbagbo have just come and apologised to T B Joshua for ignoring the invitation he extended to Gbagbo during the crises that led to his ouster and detention. Spiritual issues are vague to those who concentrate only on the physical. Such people deserve sympathy.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: TB Joshua: Chelsea Will Win Champions League trophy by rawtruth(m): 1:40pm On May 03, 2012
cold: Seriously,this is ridiculous & ludicrous.It paints God as lazy & idle.There are millions of malnourished kids dying out there,Christians/Muslims dying from constant terror attacks,Million others dying from natural & man made disasters & all God can think about is football?Vigorously smh embarassed
Where the leaders have refused to do the things that could make the people happy, little things that assuage their pains become important. Football has become the balm that eases the pains of poor Nigerians who are daily inundated with news of stolen billions and probe panels that only serve as channels for further stealing.

There is no Church in this country that does the kind of charity work T B Joshua and his Church have been doing. Only recently, he doled out trailers load of rice to Muslim communities in Borno, kaduna and other states in the north; that is besides the numerous charity programs, including scholarships, which are the hallmark of SCOAN.

Terrorism is a product of distorted perception of God for which religious leaders from the areas where it started and grew into a monster should be held responsible. What has TB Joshua got to do with that? Are humans not free to make their choices again. Think before you write.
PoliticsRe: Violence In Plateau State: 13 Killed, 30 Houses Burnt In Berom Villages, Riyom by rawtruth(m): 1:01pm On May 03, 2012
[quote author=Ejiné]My brain has become so numb from all the bomb attacks and mass killings, that I feel sleepy when they happen these days.

Anyway, I'm beginning to get the feeling our Southern media has got some deep bias against the Fulani on these Middle-Belt conflicts, cuz according to my cousin (camping in Jos), the Beroms are actually killing MORE Fulani than documented. And as far as 'Frags' (killings, body counts) go, it's roughly on a ratio of 9:2 in favor of the Beroms.

He says Beroms are killing the Fulani like it's going out of fashion! But these kkillings get very little media attention.
He told me this, only last weekend. And I've learned to tone down my anger against the 'Hausa-Fulani' (on the Middle-Belt crisis) since then.[/quote]You don't have any cousin in Jos, but if you have he/she knows nothing about what is going on in central Nigeria, and even the entire country.

Has your cousin also informed you that the attacks on the Sayyawa people of Bauchi state, the minority tribes of Kaduna state and on the Tivs of Taraba, Nassarwa and Benue states got anything to do with stealing of cattle or killing of the fulanis?

I suspect you are one of the propaganda agents of the armed Fulbe tribes on nairaland. No doubt about it. They should replace you with people like Mai-Suya because you aren't doing a good job for them.
PoliticsRe: IGP Exonerates Bokoharam From THISDAY Attack, Despite BH Claiming Responsibility by rawtruth(m): 12:45pm On Apr 29, 2012
naptu2: The Spanish Government hurriedly blamed ETA for the Madrid bombings. Police evidence later showed that Al-Qaeda were responsible. This led to the fall of the spanish government.

The American media suspected that Islamic militants were responsible for the Oklahoma bombing, but FBI investigations showed that Timothy Mcveigh was responsible.

Some groups might claim responsibility, just to boost their profile, but the police must be led by evidence.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3509426.stm
Right! Lets encourage the news media to start using terms like "Criminals have attacked x", "a criminal group calling itself boko haram claimed responsibility for the bomb attack on Y". With that kind of reporting those 'vague'
religionists who can't identify evil from good would think twice b4 approaching authorities for negotiation with a 'criminal organisation. The IGP is right.
PoliticsRe: Bomb Blast At Bayero University In Kano by rawtruth(m): 12:10pm On Apr 29, 2012
Nahumaira: This bomb blast at B.U.K must to be set up.they just want to jeopadize the existing the peace & unity between muslims & christians.
There is no setup here beyond the ideology of boko haram which is intolerant of anything that does not answer to its concept of God and religious practices. It is time all lovers of peace come out plainly against this devilish sect, irrespective of religious divides.

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