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ijawcitizen:
They elected an igbo migrant in Ndokiland. Ndoki is Ijaw.

K.

Logan23:
Pls what's his name pls

Okechukwu Nwadiuto Emuchay.

An Ndoki man just got elected as Secretary-General of Ohanaeze-Ndigbo. He is not even the first Ndoki man to hold that position.

You people should be there trying to assign ethnicity to people based on oral stories that no one can really test their veracity.

Ik is 37? This guy never reach 40?

ogbonti:
you are very correct, he is naturally bald - BUT you are seeing hair transplant at work

It's not even hair transplant. Nigga is wearing a wig.

Ekealterego:
Blood money rampant? You believe Nollywood movies too much because every day on the news, all the ritual killings and skull mining happen in the South West. I bet you will find one news on ritual killing from the SW right now on the front page. Yahoo-Yahoo is also way more rampant in the SW.

I was going to say this. Who still talks about blood money in the East today? Even Nollywood sef don dey drop that concept. This people are living in a 1990s/early 2000s Nollywood alternate universe.

Forget this thing. It's about bragging rights. I know many of them.

Many Igbo men who have made money and are forming big man in the city don't want their rich city friends to visit them in their village and find out that they are living in hovels.

I didn't know there were other communities in the SE that follows primogeniture besides Nnewi. Interesting.

TAO11:
@pazienza, Obalatule, RedboneSmith, Ofunwa111, IDENNAA, Afam4eva, ariesbull:

You all should stop engaging this retrograde (nocomment9999) as Anioma, because he is not. He is a Bini — a slave of the Yoruba oba of Benin.

He only impersonates on this thread as Anioma in the hope of being able to tease the frontiers of his 2 by 2 Benin chiefdom.

He knows very well that the only feasible means of achieving such goals is through lies and more lies. Hence his full-blown commitment to lying hard.

He understands very well that to propagate the Benin chiefdom with truth is like imagining a married bachelor — an inherent contradiction; hence their resort to lies and more hard lies.

Here is his picture in the attachment below. Even with the face mask, one can tell that no Anioma person can be this ugly — with his bald head and monster face. Think Obaseki, think Oshiomole, et al.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12958587_05a4dd6b366947de98df35eac159b438_jpeg_jpeg59d4a901c8cd4e36d0dc6e6b0da535df

Cheers!

Lmao. Just after I engaged him yesterday, I saw his picture where you had posted it on another thread. I was like Holly Molly, is this who I have been wasting my time engaging? This fugly old baldie?

Source? Let me guess, www.outofyourass.com?

nocomment9999:
A wise man dares not to speak on behalf of his people unless his people appointed him as their spokesperson or unless he is a traditional ruler.
In your case, you were not elected by the edo to be their spokesperson, you are not an edo traditional ruler, and you are not even an Edo.
Instead you would have us believe you have magical powers to read the minds of millions of edo people and that you are sharing the product of your magical powers with us pro bono.

For your info, I am Anioma and I say: "Oba ghatokpere! Isse !"

Tah! You're not Anioma. I've read all your comments on this post and I can smell someone who is pretending to be Anioma from a mile away.

You have not even made any serious attempt to hide your real identity. You are the Edo boy known as gregyboy, aka Edeyoung, aka Prolog2.

I see you're still in the business of creating fake accounts to deceive those you can deceive.

Skoopy:
Maybe government subsidy is required...

The government has too much responsibility as it is to start paying for DNA tests for every child born in the most populous black nation in the world. Do you know how many kids are born in this country every day?

orjisblog:
I think with the increase in infidelity in marriages lately, it will be very much better is the Senate passes a bill that would warrant all hospitals to conduct compulsory DNA test after child birth.

- Orjisblog

And who will pay for it, the government?!

Do you think a DNA test is like testing for malaria parasite? DNA tests cost a lot of money.

If you want a DNA test, damn it, come up with the money and get a DNA test.

Una done too make noise about this DNA thing.

TheLionofLasigi:
Ibo "chiefs" are glorified warrant chiefs with no royal blood, never heard of this nigga until now, happy 57 anniversary in an irrelevant position. am probably more relievant than this nigga

The royal stool of Nnewi did not begin in the warrant chief era. The position has been passing from father to first son for many centuries.

And you never hearing of him before now means very little. Nigerians are notoriously ignorant, and arrogant while at it.

Bonesking:
Congratulations Obi Nnewi

It is Igwe Nnewi, and Obi Otolo.

The part about hotels being booked up in Awka is true. It's crazy!

Angelfrost:
If you are truly from Edo state as your moniker portends, then you ought to know that "Osaremen" is a Delta variant of the original Edo version "Osariemen".

The Delta version is quite common among kids born especially in Ika area of Delta North (Igbo speaking part, hence Anioma).

You can ask around!!! I don't make empty claims.

Anyway, a simple Google search would have prevented this unnecessary dragging of the poor girl's roots. Her parents are from Edo State. She is not Anioma.

Etinosa1234:
When did Anioma start bearing osaremen... I thought they were purely Igbos

Cc: Redbonesmith

Is it news that Benin names are also used in Anioma, or are you looking for who to argue with this morning?

mansakhalifa:
Somebody here has already mentioned Haiti...

I totally agree with that. It has to be Haiti.

Haiti is a replica of Africa in the new world. Brazil doesn't even come close enough in my opinion.

The next candidate should be Brazil or Cuba.

**but seriously OP, does Brazil really have up to a million blacks? Present your source.

According to the 2010 census, 15 million Brazilians identify as Black. That number is many times more, if we add people who are part-Black to that number (as they do in the US.)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-15766840#:~:text=For%20the%20first%20time%2C%20non,2000%20to%2047.7%25%20last%20year.

One might say Haiti, probably because Haiti is an all-Black country, in contrast to Brazil which has other racial groups.

However, in terms of sheer number there are still more black people in Brazil than in Haiti.

And although Haiti still has its voodoo, no country outside Africa has successfully retained a vibrant African religion and culture like Brazil, where the orixas (orishas) are alive and kicking, and where a semblance of the Yoruba language, at least for liturgical purposes, have survived. I will even argue that in terms of maintaining ancestral religions, Brazil is even more African than many African countries.

And getting another plumber is not an option??

Easy oh. Take it easy, bro.

Southeast artistes are underrated sha.

Chike's "Boo of the Booless" has some very beautiful tracks on it.

Etrusen:
is it zik that says oguta people are from Benin ?

or is it Benins that says oguta are their people?


please what is your argument

There's something patently frustrating about you people's inability to follow an argument. Zik was never mentioned by me in the context of Oguta's traditions of origin.

Take an IQ test, all of you. And stop wasting my time.

See how I came in here to have a good laugh at TAO's detective skills, and the resident idiots managed to drag me into an utterly wasted round of lectures they lack the intellectual muscle to follow.

samuk:
[s]The fact you feel offended by your fellow Igbos laying claim to Benin shows your level of inferiority complex.

I get it, your ancestors moved down to Anioma in Delta state from the east and you have been trying to claim Anioma as part of Igbo and Biafra land only for you to start reading and hearing some core easterners are claiming Benin ancestry.

It's your people claiming Benin, not the other way round and there is nothing you can do about it, if you like cry from now till eternity.

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Ofunwa111:
By the way he acted like he didn't see this;

PS: Why do you people keep on bringing up Zik's autobiography written in the 1970s, but when I bring up a historical essay that the same Zik wrote earlier in the 1930s which appears to contradict what he wrote in the '70s, you people keep mute or ignore. I thought you were a great proponent of the theory that earlier documents are always more authentic than later ones?

They all act like they don't see it. All of them that I have engaged. They will just troway face when you mention Zik's 1930s paper. Only to come back tomorrow and continue to argue with the autobiography from the 1970s.

Ofunwa111:
You have added Ihiala ? . One can see inferiority and fear every time you write. This is what Igbo has done to you !!!

Obosi, too. Lol. In the early history of Obosi, Onitsha was trying to extend its hegemony to Obosi. They fought a number of wars, and Obosi emerged from all of them as an independent community, but they were influenced by Onitsha, which is why their earliest king is named Shime after Ezechime. It is this indirect influence via Onitsha that this retarded expansionist is now trying to reinterpret as Obosi claiming Bini origin.

samuk:
You are writing like someone turned your head upside down and turned you inside out, you continue to use the word dumb when you are actually the dumb one here.

When did Oguta or anyone else claiming Benin ancestry mean Benin is the one trying to expand into Igbo land?

Instead of you to take up the issues with your fellow Igbos laying claim to Benin, you are here lashing out at Benin for simply acknowledging them due to your own inferiority complex.

It's not Benin claiming any part of Igbo land or people, it's the other way round, stupid.

Like I said when you first quoted me on this thread, silu gi nsi nsi si ebe a pua.

As an aside: it's funny to watch Benin and Igala people (who are uncomfortable with being minorities in today's modern Nigeria) attempt to create a meta-ethnic group by laying claims to all of their neighbours who have traditions of migrating from Benin or Idah.

I've always said that oral traditions are the most ridiculous basis upon which to attempt to build an ethnic identity. The language that a people currently speak and the way they self-identify are the indices, not oral traditions.

An example: there are Isoko clans that claim in their traditions that their ancestors migrated from Igboland. Igbide is one of those communities. There are others I do not readily recall. Now imagine if Igbo people came online to lay claims to these communities today. Imagine the outrage, and cries of 'landgrabbers' that will ring everywhere.

Another example: Idumoka people in Esan migrated from Awka in Anambra State. No Igbo person I know is interested in dragging the Idumoka people of Esan into some Igbo meta-ethnicity. They are Esan, and that's that.

Only small small groups are interested in using oral traditions (which are non-verifiable, if I may add) to swell their numbers.

The Igala own is even more annoying, lol. I used to talk a lot about how my own community claims Igala origin. I actually believe there is some truth to this claim, but my people are not Igala anymore, and when I see clowns like Ayegba Abdullahi running around claiming my people belong to the Igala nation, my emotions vacillate between anger and amusement. I am Anioma and Igbo today, and that's that on that.

Onitsha and Ugwuta are Igbo, not Benin. All their political moves within modern Nigeria show where their ethnic loyalties lie. They are not interested in your Greater Edo. You know the people that are interested in that - - - the Ekpeye, the Ikwerre and related groups in the south-south, who are attempting to wash away the 'taint' on Igboness by clinging to Benin. You can have them. Just leave the southeast out of it. Also leave those of us in parts of Anioma who are not interested out of it. Tenkiu.

samuk:
All these outbursts and vituperation because the Oguta people of Imo state in the heartland of Igbo claimed that they migrated from Benin?

Does the fact that they are now Igbo change their genetic make up? All these people claiming Benin carry Benin DNA in their blood irrespective of how they are identified presently.

Judging from your reaction, it shows that you are pained that Benin DNA are all over the place in Igbo land.

How can Benin be classified as minorities but yet ubiquitous.

If Oguta, Ihiala, Obosi, Onitsha, Ogba, Egede, Ikwerre etc. Claims that they were all Benin migrants, does the Oba of Benin need to have had direct political influence over these towns for them to have Benin influence?

Benin people already populated these towns, so no need for the Oba of Benin to disturb them, no need to take war to his people.

Stop looking for evidence of Benin war machine in Igbo land as evidence of Benin political and cultural influence in Igbo land.

The Western fringes of Igbo land is Anioma or Delta North, Oguta in Imo state is in the heartland of Igbo.

You must think very highly of yourself to say you are teaching me to learn your skewed revisionist history.

No, the 'vituperation' is not about Oguta claiming Benin origin. There's nothing new or strange about that sort of claim. After all, there are similar claims of partial Benin origin in my own community. The vituperation is about you chasing me down on Nairaland to drag me into a subject I'm already bored discussing with you Benin expansionists. I only came here to react to a post by Tao that I found funny, not to talk to you.
You quoting me out of the blues to attempt to drag me into your asinine arguments is a tad annoying.

The rest of what you wrote here sounds like you were typing from gregboy's head, and I won't even respond to that. I mean you can't even understand what 'western fringes of the southeast' means. Dumb.

samuk:
akụkọ iro Obodo Idu na Oba. Igbo enwe eze.

Obodo Idu na Oba was once the centre of the world for southern and middle belt Nigeria.

You can now see that Olaudah Equiano and Zik were right.

Oga, stop being downright silly. This topic has been discussed exhaustively on this forum. There are communities on the western fringes of the southeast that claim their ancestors fled from Benin during one political turmoil or war. Communites with documented claims of Benin ancestry include Onitsha and Ugwuta (Oguta). Ogbaru communties also contains lineages that have such claims. These claims have been known for generations and is not a secret.

These claims do not mean Benin rule extended to those places. I've educated you several times on the difference between ancestry, influence and political control, but it appears you are a very slow learner. When people say they ran away from a certain place to escape the tyranny of a wicked king, and established their own community far away from that king, you have to be stupid to think the new community automatically was still a part of the tyrannical king's realm.

Secondly, take a look at a map of the southeast. Communites with Benin ties (Onitsha and Ugwuta, for example) are in the extreme west of the southeast, in the Niger valley. The vast swathe of the southeast did not share this ties. So the idea that Benin was some sort of poiltical centre of southern and Middle Belt Nigeria, based on the traditions of fringe communites is demonstrably ridiculous.

PS: Why do you people keep on bringing up Zik's autobiography written in the 1970s, but when I bring up a historical essay that the same Zik wrote earlier in the 1930s which appears to contradict what he wrote in the '70s, you people keep mute or ignore. I thought you were a great proponent of the theory that earlier documents are always more authentic than later ones?

samuk:
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.bbc.com/igbo/afirika-48565792&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiPgLLynb7tAhXI2qQKHaWeBrQQFjAOegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw3am-fbxDHnMAVrzuqkDP9h

Could you please interpret for us what they are saying in Igbo in the above BBC documentary?

Are Oguta people in Imo State (heart of Igbo land) saying they were from Benin, if so why are the Igbo crucifying Ikwerre of Rivers state, south south for making the same claim.

Silu gi nsi-nsi si ebea pua. A na-ako one, O kolu 18 bata.