₦airaland Forum

magoo10:
It is trash to you but not to the international community.

Mr International community!

I am very sure Biafra will be governed by either Israel or United States, whoever is the stronger while elections will be conducted by UN or EU.

Op, you are always trying to appear intelligent (or logical) but intelligence isn't using mere rhetorics.

I find it hard to understand how almost all the notable people in Igboland had written, talked and presented their facts/reasons why this agitation should be done with caution and properly, yet, young, inexperienced but self-conceited young men will always put reason aside, girdle themselves with unbriddled emotions that will surely lead them to damnation.

Let me ask you this. How would you feel if a group of people conduct theselves in this same manner in Biafra when it comes?

From my observations, alot of Nigerians would want Biafra to come but this foundation of lawlessness, absolute disregard for constituted authorities and disrespect for elders will surely be the bane of Biafra.

I was happy when I saw the topic but unfortunately, you carried on with thesame thing that has brought so much disdain for the struggle and unfortunately too to the Igbos.

I think it is time to lie low, make for peace while restrategizing. It's absolute insanity to expect a different result when the methods remain constant. if we want other Nigerians to love us, lets stop insulting others, embrace peace and love them.

horsepower101:
Unity without Justice and Fairness is False and Forced. After all these unity parade, what happens after. We go back to tolerating injustice?

You are very correct. But we are not supposed to "go back to tolerating injustice." We can team up as a people to fight injustice. I guess the move by this group is a step in the right direction and should be commended by any reasonable, peace-loving, progressive mind.

You don't create and build a nation (in the name of fighting injustice) through lawlessness.

Promismike:
If their is a better way for the east to express its dissatisfaction over the unlawful killing of easterners by the army and the way the sycophancy and aboki ass licking governors has been unable to speak up against these killings. THAT BETTER WAY IS TO START BOYCOTTING EVERY ELECTION IN THE EAST.

Because you have noticed that your empty cry of "no election in Anambra" has failed and your ofe nsala is likely going to 'gba'uka' - go sour since are will likely eat it alone, you are now trying to bring in sentiments. I can assure you, that will fail also.

months:
The Hausa and Afonja appeared to have carried their madness to the South East.

Nnamdi Kanu said the killings from the North will eventually arrive at the East.

That is wat we are seeing.

Why are you always talking rubbish!

"Nnamdi Kanu said the killings from the North will eventually arrive at the East.

That is wat we are seeing."

Nnamdi Kanu said...and you are proud of that?
May God save your soul!

Each time I remember them, I feel very bad.
I can only imagine the pain in their hearts now.

Even if Kanu didn't talk about them, can't the Elders in Igboland (especially, Ohaneze n'digbo) do something about them?

This is not fair

Today, everybody talks about Kanu (even now that he is hiding for a few days). We all tend to regard some peoples lives better than the others.

I am proud of the people of Anambra...and then, Enugu.

No wonder you are leading...

GavelSlam:
Because like everything in life we fail to see the economic importance.

When one oyibo or Indian begins to breed them for snakeskins used in bag and shoe making, we'll begin to remember how sacred these animals are or maybe why he's employing only Indians.

You are quite right but I wish they could all be gathered and reared in a sucluded enclosure.

You can't possibly imagine how I feel at the sight of that creature called snake...ironically, if you give me a well prepared hmm...hmm, I go cho...

MissChievous199:
Amen o... Amen

Thank you!

MissChievous199:
I'd be grateful if there'll be a Nigeria in 50years

Where do you think Nigeria would've gone to?

Nigeria will be here. Unless Jesus comes.

FortifiedCity:
In the next 50 yrs, pythons will go extinct in Nigeria

Let them go abeg

TheCabal:
day old piss taste like eastern palm wine. I have tasted both.
If you drink eastern palm wine. It's day old piss flavored.
Let me know .. Guiness at his burial ceremony?
https://s6.postimg.org/xbx2q84tt/spiritual.jpg

Hahahahahahaha...

You people will not kill somebody on NL.

Tolexander:
What is their problem?

They voted to be part of Cameroun in the referendum.

That's the irony of life my brother. There is no paradise on this side of life.

I wish my brothers here understand this.

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gidgiddy:
So in other words, we need the Army to prevent us from killing each other? So whats the point of 'one Nigeria'?

So if one man uses hate speech, people get slaughtered elsewhere? So Nigeria has not been able to rise above hate speech to the point of not killing themselves?

Then Nigerian unity is pointless.

Following your line of reasoning, will it be safe to say that if we have 'one Nigeria' and then Nigerian unity is 'pointful,' we won't need laws, rules and regulations, the police and other security organization to guide our actions?

Yes, one man's hate speech can make "people get slaughtered elsewhere" no matter how united they were. It all starts fron eroding the love, trust and confidence we have one for another and then bitterness sets in and finally... this has been proven over and over.

If you'll be honest, you'll agree that the OPD was neccessary and it was for our good (not bringing in extrajudicual killings if there were any).

Unfortunately or rather, fortunately, you are not the President.
Wait till you become.

"When the INEC officials got tired finally, they went in front of Senator Dino Melaye's office and dumped all their documents there."

Was this a good idea? What if he claims he never saw those documents after collaborating with hoodlums to evacuate them?

CaptainG00D:
Dude kanu is nit in safe hands..
If noy dead.. u gys should stop confuse otherd..
People need to kno d truth and act fast before its too late.

U guys should stop all this nonsense.. all is not well with kanu

You think Kanu will be dead and his family will be silent?
His brother talked about his father, that he was recieving treatment in an undisclossed facility.
They are all safe...he is just trying to play smart. And note, when you hear his house was besieged, it's mere propaganda. The NA never went there to arrest or attack him.

RomeSankara:
This is all on a premise that companies and human being are 100 percent honest but in reality they are not at all ..I understand what you are saying but unfortunately it won't fly because I know the process will be thoroughly abused

Just like the one we have now is being abused.

So you see, the wrong is not in the idea/strategy, it is in the nature of most people to always look for ways to defraud others given any slightest opportunity.

RomeSankara:
This project should be the last that should be done in this illegitimate way ..right now it might sound OK but if tomorrow every company in Nigeria say they want to fix infrastructure in lieu of Tax rebates I hope you know a new Era of Tax evasion an corruption would have started ..Even those Dangote deal has created a 4 way loop hole for corrosion already at the NPA level , at the Ministry of works level, at the FIRS level then at Dangote group itself ..We need to start reasoning beyond sentiments because no matter how commendable this looks at first glance it actually an invitation to a new channel of corruption and anarchy

I think you were right when you said "We need to start reasoning beyond sentiments."

No matter how hard we try, people will always look for loopholes to propagate corruption. But look at it this way.

- Is it that Dangote Group will no more have their Annual Financial Report (Prepared in accordance with FRS - IFRS) audited?
- is it that the Groups CIT ordinarily can't be properly computed/evaluated?
- is it that that value of the work done can't be fairly determined?

Now. Dangote finishes the project and claims he spent #2trillion. The groups Annual Reports and Accounts show a tax liability of #1.2trillion.
The Federal Ministry of Work hire an independent foreign auditing firm to evaluate and give a fair value and they say #1.9trillion for instance, what do you think will happen.

"If tomorrow every company in Nigeria say they want to fix infrastructure in lieu of Tax rebates," I don't think "a new Era of Tax evasion an corruption would have started." As a matter of fact, that will be better for us provided the right financial and accounting standards and followed.

Look. Tax collection involves a lot of cost and there are higher chances of misappropraition and embezzlement of funds.

The planning and execution of projects also involve a lot of cost - project design, bidding and selection processes, mobilization and 'kick-backs' etc.

To me, it's even better for coys to 'pay' their taxes directly through executing projects provided the process is fair and accountable.

OnucheAdams:
Indeed, the fact that it was done without legislative approval again goes to prove that it's in violation of the constitution.

Which do you prefer?
To have the work done (mind you, it was budgeted for but funds not approved for it) or to let it go because NASS refused to approve it?

RomeSankara:
Nothing cool about that , it's is an invitation to financial and tax fraud + anarchy

The reasons for imposing tax is to finance public infrastructure and this is a direct (and maybe, more efficient) way to use taxation for its purpose provided there is fairness and accountability.

If govt collects the amount for that project through FIRS (which incurs cost - cost of collecting tax and may be embezzled) and uses it for that purpose or 'collects' the equivalent directly (without the cost of collecting tax) in terms of the project, I think they are thesame, though I would prefer the later.

Provided there is fairness and accountability, i.e, the project will be properly valued. We've been told foreign auditing firm(s) will evaluate the cost. So, for me, if the value of the work done by Dangote is equivalent to the CIT he would have paid, there is no wahala.

My only problem is that our govt keeps making the strong stronger.

This whole idea/strategy sounds cool since one of the reasons for imposing tax is to finance public infrastructure and this is a direct (and maybe, more efficient) way to use taxation for its purpose provided there is fairness and accountability.

But I share MaziOmenuko's sentiments. The NASS should not be allowed to continue like this. If this continues, I foresee a time the NASS will hand-twist and blackmail the Executive into carrying out their biddings.

kenonze:
He shall be judged after his tenure. For now, we don't know his value.
Nigeria keep getting worse leader as she gets older.

I can't believe that that clueless otueke drunk will be remembered for any thing.

Hi

paschu:
Where did I use the word "fight"?

Clear sign of comprehension issues on your part.

That's why you started talking about a non-existent "spreading of hatred" whist the object of the OP eluded your mental grasp.

First go back and re-read the OP and COMPREHEND its import before posting a comment. Probably doing so will help make your comments relevant to the issues raised in the OP.

Mr comprehensor. Once again, we will know where this leads you. Continue!

paschu:
The biggest enemies of Nigeria are folks like you who keep shut at injustice.

Please tell me how you are fighting injustice in clear terms.

You people should continue to promote hatred and spread bitterness, at the end, we will know who suffers most.

Just keep it up!

CaptainFM1:
Salvaging is what brought us to this present situations. We've had almost 60years after independence. Do we need another millennia to see its not working? What we cannot salvage for almost 60yrs...,

The cry has always been very loud since the days on Ken Saro Wiwa's only that few corrupt elements in the corridors of power that have continuously been benefiting from the status quo....(notably the Objs, Bubus, Ngidas...and all other recycled politicians) will not yield to the cry of my people.

Today, its Nnamdi Kanu. The truth is, his like will never cease to come forward until the dreams are actualised.
#LetMyPeopleGo.

#CarryYourLoad&Go!

davibid:
To me N. Kanu being the leader of IPOB is not enough reason to generalize his punishment to all Igbos.

And all I see FFK wrote was to innocuously pointing out the inhuman treatment and harassment suffered by the IPOB for asking a referendum and not being manipulative.

That's ok.

davibid:
I think you just hate the man


Because you are still ambiguous rather than to be precise in your reasons for criticism

Me? Hate him? Ok, give me 30 lashes but I don't hate him.

As for being "still ambiguous rather than to be precise," please read my conversation with CaptainFM1 and PointZerom, I couldn't just repeat what I'd said here.

FFK is an intelligent guy, but if you will be fair-minded, you would agree with me that he is being manipulative, that's all.

CaptainFM1:
Nigeria has never been united...That is the theme. No digression whatsover.

I'm talking of this unholy union called Nigeria. It is the greatest injustice the British did in 1914. What is the laid down procedure for referendum? Do you think its just the South East?

There has never been peace and progress whatsoever in the country...If its not NE Boko boys, it will be Niger Delta SS. if its not OPC SW, it will be Arewa boys...Nigerians are only been forced to stay as together.

Agreed. By the time we have Biafra, we will be united.

I would rather we salvage this marriage than having it severed.

But if we can't truly cope, then let's part in peace.

CaptainFM1:
Their historical and cultural identity could be their continuous demand for secession.

Sovereignty is reinforced only when every part of the country is united. So, why is it difficult to grant referendum?

Is there anytime this country has ever been united? Why can't we just be honest with ourselves for once. This marriage never worked since the days of my great great grand father.

Bros don't attempt to digress.

So secession is the historical and cultural identity of the Igbos? Do you know what that suggest? That the igbos have a culture of always... Don't go there o!

Even in marriage, no party to the marriage wakes up one morning and goes away like that no matter how unbearable the union might be.
Until the right customary and legal procedures are followed, if you like leave you wife and go to Ghana and marry another woman, the one you left is still your wife.

So bro., if you need divorce, follow the laid down procedure and stop attacking your 'inlaws.'

davibid:
Please tell us what you know

And

Criticize objectively

What I know and my objective 'criticism' is that what he said in that paragraph and a few others aint true.

They are baseless, motivated by hate, ladened with emotions and intented to incite the weak and vulnerable against another.