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It is barbaric for a man to beat a woman, not to talk of beating your wife.

Though at times women may be the cause of the beating. But why beat her. There are many ways to show your grievances.

Why do men beat women? Is it for the fun it? I believe that a man can not just come home and descend on his wife and use her to train for a boxing competition.

My father taught me that beating is not the best way to correct someone and because of that I did not receive a single cane from my parents. But the punishement I got, I usually prefer the cane,and the punishment will never the same. Atimes is come immediately, other times istcomes later.

So why beat.

TerraCotta:
And whether or not you're an Obasanjo fan

I am niether OBJ nor Atiku fan. But my interest is that, there must be something that baba is protecting or hidding that he don't want Atiku to see or reveal. If not why all these energies just ot stop one Atiku Abubakar from being president.

I will never be OBJ fan. He had the opportunity to make this country great but he messed up.

I have beeing wondering who is this man Atiku Abubakar that OBJ is using all the resources within his disposal to stop him from being the president of this country.

Why all these energies just to stop Atiku?

Who is this man that the president has to kneel down before him in other to secure a second term in office? So I heard.

Who is this man??

Gov. Chimaroke is very corrupt, there is no doubt about.

Please what EFCC is after is the ownership of Cosmo FM, RainbowNet, Reinaaisence University, etc. Those people defending the governor should tell us more about those companies and university.

Those infrastructure they are talking about has been the same infrastructure he has been advertising since 2000.

ESUT permanent site has not been completed, but he decieve people with advert. Engineering student are still at the old site.

Dualizing of New haven, is it the only road in Enugu state, why all the noise??

The LG funds he took, what did he do with it? My LG did not get anything from him for 7years except a road which even FG refunded the state government.

Chimaroke should be impeached and sent to jail immediately. He is corrupt.

I will not be surprised.

After all El Rufia has said it. Obasanjo has also confirmed.

Even though it is selection rather than election. But I believe that they will perfrom better than Obasanjo. The way Duke is managing cross river state. I know that he will do his est for Nigeria, just like yaradua. The only governor I know that decalred his assets including the money he has in trust fot his late brother.

Let us watch as seen how the selection 2007 is going to be. In this country our vote does not count. What matter is who Aso rock wants.

Nigeria Will Soon Divide

Na u go divide am

Why should we compare Nigeria TV with foreign TV. I does not make sense at all. Most of the technologies we are using is from there. Most of our programmes are even richer and more entertaining than theirs. Apart from Football. whatelse can the foreign TV offer?

Nigeria Television is really trying. Given the harsh environment they are operating. No electricity for running of the TV station. Use of generator more than 12 hours in a day. Increase in price of petroleum every time.

Before now u can only watch NTA, but we have many private television station almost in every state. Imagine watching the debate on 3rd term live coutesy of AIT.

What we need is for the government to do their part, give us steady electricity, good road and cheap communication, I bet you we will perrfrom better than foreign TV station.

Our Jounalist aree been harrased everyday by police for reporting one thing or the other. Imagine a journalist been arrested for saying that presidential jet is tokunbo. It can not happen in foreign land.

Let us pray for may 29 2007 to come, so that this bad government will go. may be our cries will be heard by God and a leader will be given to us.

El-Rufai, at the launching of the Heart of Africa project in Washington, United States told a business forum on Nigeria‘s socio-economic reforms as a model for Africa‘s development, that the Federal Government was determined to stop Babangida.

“We won‘t let him come back after reviewing the state of the nation before the transfer of power in 1999 from the military to the civilian,” el-Rufai said.

According to him, the PDP has created a screening process that will ensure that the next presidential nominee from the party will be a decent and honest, person “whose age would fall between 44 and 55.” Babangida is 65.

“A member of our generation that will emerge as the President and I think I know who it is,” he added.

Please is this selection or election?. How can El Rufia know who will emerge as the president of this country before the election. Is he a prophet?

If they have already seleccted who will be the president, why waste all these money in voters registeration. Why all the money give to INEC for preparation of the election. Why waste time and resources by parties to conduct primaries.

I feel like going changing my nationality. I am ashamed of what our government does.

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art20061207342445

This is no news and it has even generated enough buzz. Robbers will even rob a police station and nothing will happen.

And please what is wrong is she is been monitored by her mother? Is being 20 years enough to be independent?

Is she matured emotionally to be on her own?
What of financial power, can she take care of herself without messing around?
Why can she sit at home and be a better girl

What is he going to declare

Bell University
Ota farm that can not feed him in 1999 and is making profit of N500,000,000 now?
Shares in Transcorp?

Just tell me.

My brother, let just put our charplet inside water and be praying for a leader Nigeria needs.

I don't have any question for Babaginda. There is nothing we can do concerning the past. Asking him about annulment of june 12 will not change things. Let us forget question to ask IBB and focus on how to stop IBB

He has declared his intention to contest for presidency come 2007. All of you that are shouting kill IBB, kill IBB how many of you have registered to vote. If you like kill IBB in this forum, and if you can not vote against him during the election period, then forget it. The power to stop him lies in the ballot box.

I will vote for Duke as president, even if IBB turn to be his vice I don't care.

Is not true. It is only few Nigerian that are hold us hostage.

Odeku:
Here is what the constitution said

188. (1) The Governor or Deputy Governor of a state may Removal of Governor be removed from office in accordance with the provisions or Deputy Governor of this section. from office.

(2) Whenever a notice of any allegation in writing signed by not less than one-third of the members of the House of Assembly. (b) stating that the holder of such office is guilty of gross misconduct in the performance of the functions of his office, detailed particulars of which shall be specified.


WHy should we wait till the well is dry be fore we take action? at least now he jump bail but he is hurting his family we know he can't go back to London since he jump bail there too, those accounts are dead. we will kick his family out and sell all his houses, and wait let him come back. his cell is waiting with cold beans and rice with flies flying all over it

notice of allegation should be signed by one-third. It is very clear on that. you forgot to mention this part of the 188 2 (b) in most of the impeachment, it is not the speaker that served the governor involved. They suspend the speaker and appoint another person. All these is abuse of the law and should not be encouraged.

the speaker of the House of Assembly shall, within seven days of the receipt of the notice, cause a copy of the notice to be served on the holder of the office and on each member of the House of Assembly, and shall also cause any statement made in reply to the allegation by the holder of the office, to be served on each member of the House of Assembly.



(9) Where the report of the Panel is that the allegation against the holder of the office has been proved, then within fourteen days of the receipt of the report, the house of Assembly shall consider the report, and if by a resolution of the House of Assembly supported by not less than two-thirds majority of all its members, the report of the Panel is adopted, then the holder of the office shall stand removed form office as from the date of the adoption of the report.

There is no way we can take only the section that will support our arguement and leave the other. I think subsection 9 is clear enough to tell us the number of legislature that will endorse the impeachment.

while one-third can initiate, two-third must adopt the report for a govenor to be impeached

The fight against corruption should not be corrupt itself.

Odeku:
For those who cares to broaden their knowledge on Nigerian politics

you can read about the constitution and how our leaders are abusing this laws

@Odeku

Do you know I love you. Atleast we agree sometimes. Our leader are abusing the law. Not following due process. That a bloody governor jumped bail, opened 13 accounts, looted the state treasury is not the reason for 5 legislature to abuse the law in order to impeach him.

Most of us knows that IBB looted but he is enjoying now. But I believe that one day he will be brought to book.

By May 29, 2007 most of the governors will finish their tenure and those that have commited crimes, like my own governor will be picked up and tried. So why waste energy and money to impeach them unconstitutionally, abusing our law and giving our dear country a bad image as a country where there is no law.

That is the problem we are having in this country. If you have presidential blessing you can do anything, but once, you fall out of favour, forget it, you are a gonner.

Bellview crashed, Sosoliso crashed, ADC crashed plus other ones and the old man is still there serving as a minister and the our claimed reformist did not see any reason to remove him. Redeploying him is an indictment. He should be removed.He must be protecting some interest. I bet you.

Odeku:
I reserve my comment on you dude, you have no idea what a constitution is do you?
like I said try and enroll in a vocational school and read about Nigeria constitution, and not the government class they teach you in secondary school. If you are smart at all you will know the Nigerian constitution is on line and you can read and interpret the definition under provision of section 109(1)(g) of the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, 1999".


But you only hear what you want and jump to conclusion, I won't be the teacher here, you can't teach old dog a new trick.

Thank you for your advice, I will enroll for me to learn the Nigerian constitution. But I don't need vocational training in Constitution to know that 5 legislatures in plateau state is not up to 2/3., niether do I need the training to enable me know that 6 legislature in not up to 2/3 in Anambra state.

Please you that knows, please teach the legislatures and your brother obasanjo to obey the constitution. The little I know allows me freedom of speech which I am enjoying here, And a lawyer like you is using a derogatory word on me. Let me stop here.

Odeku:
Ok, now. IBB is paying people already and you can tell by the word coming out of some peoples mouth they will kill yo get this evil man there.

I will not vote for IBB that is my position as an individual, but we should not forget that the same constitution IBB right to contest. When shall we start to do the right thing.
please come home during election and vote him out.

@Odeku
At times I begin to wonder which side you are. You will support government for doing the right thing in the wrong way. You will come to the other side and blame the same government you supported.

Why are you now complaining

na wa ooo

@Odeku

How can we save this beloved nation of ours?

1. Consitution should be supreme.
2. Tell your brother Obasanjo to Obey it (Supreme court ruled that FG have not right to withheld LG fund, for over one year LG fund of Lagos state is still been withheld)
3. Tell your brother Ribadu to follow due process of the law to impeach governors (how can house of Assmebly sit by 5am and 5 legislature impeach a governor)

Can this happen in US?

Odeku:
HERE IS what the constitution said, so before you start talking dude. go to a vocational school and read about the constitution IS DARIYE YOUR UNCLE? you sound bitter about this process

Dariye is not my uncle. I am not from Plateau state. I am married & cannot even marry from plateau state.

This is my point:

To fight aginst corruption, the system used to fight it should not be corrupt itself.

All I have been saying is that let us do it right. I am bitter becuase is giving us a bad name.

Odeku:
saintchux , you need to stop making stupid noise in this forum, you are not been objective at all.

LET ME ASK YOU 1 QUESTION BOY. DID PDP put a gun to DARIYE'S head and said he must give them the money donated?
DID Mantu put a gun to Dariye's head and ask him to give him money? the answer is no, he need to be accountable for his action. If you go rub a bank and give the money to beggers on the street, did they force you to steal the money? no. They might be guilty of collecting the money but the crime here is a GOVERNOR under oath stole and should be severely dealt with.

you guys need to stop thinking outside the box and start telling this people they are wrong, and stop talking about this crazy due process my ass. was he thinking of due process when he was enjoying all the money? was he thinking of due process when he opened 15 accounts in London? was he thinking of due process or the poor people of Jos when he was stealing. Nonsence. Boy don't get me started please.

PDP did not put gone on Him niether dd Mantu. But when PDP and mantu collected the money, they know where it is coming from. They know that it is Plateau state government money. Why did they accept it


I have never supported looting or laundering of money. What I am sayng it that the rule of law should be followed.

Mr. Bamidele Aturu said: " The point must be made again that while no one supports looting of public treasury by elected or appointed officials, there can never be any sensible justification for breaching the rule of law as was manifestly done on the Plateau. What took place in Jos this morning (Monday) is nothing but unbridled legislative brigandage."

For your Infromation, Bamidele Aturu is Human Right Activist.

If Nigerian can pursue IBB out of the office, If Nigeria can make Abacha restless. Obasanjo a bloody civilian case is like moi moi. I am waiting for May 29 2007 and he did not remove his bloody ass from Aso rock, then his case will be worse than Abacha. TENURE ELONGATION WILL NOT WORK, WE ARE NOW AWAKE.

[quote author=Iyke-D link=topic=30457.msg703100#msg703100 date=1163478520]saintchux,

Also, in my opinion, going by what I have learnt about Chris Uba, $170,000 is not really
a lot of money for his older brother, Andy. I presume these guys were already wealthy
even before Obasanjo entered the scene - but then, I may be wrong.[/quote]Due process!!!. That what I am saying

If you want to transfer money outside the country, do it the normal way. Use your bank.

Chris Uba may have $1 billion. That is Chris Uba. We are talking about Andy. So don't bring Chris into this matter. After all the source of Chris money is still unknown.

The governor of my state recked my state, but he is obasanjo boy. Nothing is happening to him even after EFCC arrested some men in his cabinet. After normal EFCC noise making. Everything boils down.

On Dariye,
nobody is talking about the money donated to PDP
Nobody is taking about the money given to Mantu
What of the refund made by Obasanjo and Atiku to Plateau state.

Anyway, Obasanjo has succedded in what he want, remove dariye from office, but let us watch where all these things will lead us to TENURE ELONGATION OR A BETTER NIGERIA.

The Problem we have is that we are not patriotic at all. [quote author=Iyke-D link=topic=30457.msg702836#msg702836 date=1163451927]What is so damaging about a member of the President's entourage being investigated for
money laundering? How is this worse than Alam's case? May be I missed it, but I don't
remember seeing this on BBC or on any major other news network here - couldn't be that
important, don't you think?

I really wonder about the level of thinking of some of our people - not to make light of the
allegation against Andy Uba, but how people can look at both cases and decide that Uba's
case is far worse than Alam's boggles the mind.

I don't know how EFCC fits in here, was the $170,000 supposedly looted? Also, I am no
expert of international laws, but I doubt very much that a presidential jet from another
country will be subjected to any form of search, talk much of seizure - what do you have
diplomatic immunity for? US laws were broken and Andy Uba must answer for it, but trying
to tie this around Obasanjo and Nigeria's so called "esteem" is just a stretch.[/quote]1. I don't need to request for Andy Uba's pay slip to know that his salary for all his tenure in
Obasanjo's cabinet is not up to $170,000.
2. A thief is a thief. whether Alam's case or andy's case is grieves is not an issue.
3. According to report about N6.5M was used to purchase farm equipment for Obasanjo farm.
4. EFCC fit in here because we want to know where the money came from and why it did not follow
due process of transfering money outside the country. Why presidential jet?
5. What is damaging is that presidential jet is involved and it affect Nigeria corporate image and you
know what that means, if Goerge Bush should go to Britian and Miss Rice was later found out to
have came with $170,000 on board, is because this is Nigeria.

If we do the right thing, we will develop like US and Britian. Follow the rules no matter how and the cost.

Odeku:
MR BIG B1 and his colleagues saintchux your points are baseless, what are you saying 2/3 or the house impeached all this criminals so what? should we wait and keep waiting till the treasury is dry before we take actions? don't you think this elective officials betrayed the trust instill in them by the poor people of the state by electing them to the highest post of he state? did the governors go through the due process of law not to steal from the JAR? now that the pot is hot, they are shouting due process of law my ass. what they got is what they deserved. We as a nation are tired of all this idiots hidding under the immunity clause and thinking they are invisible. it's time for change
it's time for action,and it's time for them to be accountable and suffer the consequence of their actions.


In a civilized society this governors would have been forced to resigned before the impeachment process. why waste the state money on legal actions?

I doubt if you are in Chicago as you profile says. If you are you should be supporting Constitution. Majority of the US citizen never liked war in Iraq. But they did not do anything unconstitutional. They waited till election period to vote aginst it. Then my supposed brother who is leaving in a foreign land that is well organised is supporting unconstitutionality in Nigeria to achieve what can be done under the consititution.

What do you thing that develop country will take us at. People that have no respect fr constitution.

I DO NOT SUPPORT CORRUPTION BUT LET IS FOLLOW DUE PROCESS. THE WAY EFCC IS BEEN RUN NOW. I DOUBT IF IT WILL SURVIVE AFTER OBASANJO.

I am not in support of any corrupt politician elected or appointed. But my opinion is that let due process be follow.

In oyo less than 2/3 Impeached the governor
In Ekiti less than 2/3 Impeached the governor
In Anambra less than 2/3 Impeached the governor
In Plataeu less than 2/3 impeached the governor

and we are here celebrating?

Is Obasanjo free
Is Ribadu Free

Where is Andy Uba?
What is happening to NPA (Olabode George)


Let us cry for Nigeria instead of being glad or celebrating.

Mr. Bamidele Aturu said: " The point must be made again that while no one supports looting of public treasury by elected or appointed officials, there can never be any sensible justification for breaching the rule of law as was manifestly done on the Plateau. What took place in Jos this morning (Monday) is nothing but unbridled legislative brigandage."

mumu

prettysly:
girlie just tell us the whole truth so that problem can be solved easily,stop beating around the bush.well it might be true i advice you just wait till the sometin comes out.don't panic.but what were you doing in a guys house,thats what your parents will ask you? think about it.anyway that should teachyou a lesson.take it easysha, where the guy dey sef, him no know wetin there happen?

When ur boy friend was masturbating, u are just there looking at him abi. If you need our help why not just tell us what u did so that we can give you a better adive. I do not believe that you will be looking at your boy friend masturbating and after he start fingering you. na adults dey this forum, we have done all those things and retire.

Pain:
I Perfectly Agree with You. MTN Is Fraud Coloured All In Yellow. Fraud Is Fraud No Matter What Color U Render it In.
Period!

I don't know for you, but I have made call free. The problem now is that network is becoming to busy to make call, but u will stiill get some numbers after several trials.

Mariory:
You think RIbadu and the EFCC are magicains? How can they find evidence of wrong doing without evidence or a trail to follow? If you have information give it to them or are you just repeating allegations?

There is evidence. The former minister of education was sacked. He confessed, so what is holding EFCC. Late Sunday Afolabi confessed in the national id card project. so what are you talking about?

Sijien:
buchio7 na ya papa folow am run for guvnor?

na wa oooo

[quote ]PLS I NEED YOUR ADVICE, I KNOW THAT IF HE COMES BACK I MIGHT TAKE HIM BACK BECAUSE I LOVE HIM BUT MY HEAD IS TELLING ME TO MOVE ON. WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD DO?


[quote][/quote]I don't think you need our adice?