₦airaland Forum

Adebayo82:
As matter of urgency, I want to confirm if this action can fly . I want to switch from tier 4 Visa to tier 2 skilled worker visa. Is it necessary or is part of requirements to show proof of English for the tier 2 visa application. I have done with my Msc program, however I can't get my certificate because of outstanding school fees. I owed school 2k, this will be paid as soon as possible but not in plan for now. I want to submit the tier 2 application form now and the company is expecting me to resume 1st of July. Please foks I need your advice.

Your main priority should be paying off the school ASAP and getting your certificate. Don’t you even need the certificate for the job you’re switching to? You also need the school for references and background checks, so you need to be in good standing for when it’s time to tick all those boxes.

koonbey:
Not sure what the relevance of the second paragraph analysis about rich or poor countries is but WRT to the bolded, yes it's a very small sample but so far it's 100% of apparent full payers, which is a significant deviation.

Where you learned your own statistics, if such deviations occur would it not warrant a closer look to determine why?

Exactly. That is why I said it was suspicious, and never actually accused anyone of lying, nor outrightly said it was impossible, because it is possible even though it is highly improbable. Plus, for the umpteenth time, it was just a joke and not an accusation against anyone. I'm honestly perplexed as to how so many people have bees in their bonnets over this.

I genuinely hope you understand now because ọmọ mi ò le ṣàlàyé jù báyìí lọ mọ́.

Because today is Sunday and I have time this afternoon, I will breakdown the analogy in simple terms:
1. Nigeria is statistically a poor country. - But if you go to Banana Island, you can pick 5 people and they will all be earning above $200K per annum. I won't call them a liar, because "national statistics".
2. US is statistically a rich and prosperous country. - But if you go to Chaldean Town, pick 5 people and they are earning around $100 per month, I wouldn't be too surprised.

Now apply that analogy to you coming to Nairaland and expecting the people here to align to UK's national statistics - just because . The simple fact is... the distribution of people here are just very skewed at so many levels and I wouldn't expect them to be representative of many national statistics in the UK. Furthermore, the claims that we have seen so far are from an extremely tiny sample size and wouldn't be taken as anything significant from any credible statistician.

The baseline is - ya'll need to calm down with always questioning people's claims. I've seen claims from you about you that I don't believe (even today) and I just looked left because na you sabi. It's really not in your or anyone's place to question adults about their lives in a public anonymous forum. No one owes you anything. If you have an argument to make, do that separately with reasonable facts and logic, and not on the back of casting doubts at someone else's claims.

Obviously, no one has done it to me so far, but I still find it annoying and distracting whenever I see people do it to others. I decided to use this weekend to talk, but I'm over it now sha. Goodbye for now

koonbey:
Subsets generally reflect the characteristics of the greater set.
That's the very essence of statistical analysis. If there are huge deviations between a set and subset it means there's an error in the data somewhere or a unique characteristic. It's not an emotional thing. It doesn't matter how angry anyone gets.
You make a very valid point about the difference in behaviour of this sub-group. I disagree that such characteristics are enough to warrant such a huge deviation, but I acknowledge your point.

I don’t understand… Dem no teach you the importance of distributions and sample sizes for where you learn your own statistics?

And yes. A subset can deviate very hugely from overall statistics. Even more so, when your subset is 5 people from Nairaland for a UK national statistics. It’s for similar reasons that poverty exists in any statistically “rich country” and wealth exists in even the poorest countries. These are basics of statistics.

koonbey:
Statistics.

Q1 this year household credit card debt burden in the UK soared to the highest level in 2 decades - https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/04/uk-credit-card-borrowing-soars-to-highest-monthly-level-since-2004

There was a recent BoE report as well for anyone who’s interested.

This is exactly why people said you’re overgeneralising. You’re looking at a stats for the entirety of the UK, but you’re on a forum consisting of a niche demography whose behaviour can (and most definitely is) vastly different from the larger majority. What’s more, you’re using the unrepresentative stats to judge the honesty of the claims of maybe 5 people… on a thread that has thousands of followers. You’re not adapting your statistics effectively.

koonbey:
The point the person was making isn’t that it’s an issue to pay your balance in full - obviously that’s best practice and what everyone should be doing.

The point was that everyone claims they do that, which is sus, to say the least, because it’s statistically improbable. Especially because it usually comes up when some people are encouraging ’newbies’ to apply for cards (without mention of whether they need it and can handle the responsibility).

It’s not rocket science to pay off credit cards in full every month. If you are living within your means, it’s the easiest habit to have. It actually won’t be surprising for me if most Nigerians abroad pay off their credit cards monthly - we grew up in a society that holds a mindset of “saving to spend” and avoiding debt.

NB: I also pay off my personal credit card every month. See the summary of my last statement below. So you can add me to the list you’re curating

STENON:
HI Everyone. Please how do I get PTA within 2 weeks in Naija for someone visiting from Nigeria ? Thank yous xx

Short answer - You can't. Even within one month, it will be through the grace of God. The whole process is now very muddled - your application just ends up sitting on that portal without any progress.

Treadway:
I actually just watched the video. I didn't bother earlier cos pervs disgusts me. What I find funny is people with a crazy culture and agenda also targeting childrens and grooming them for LGBTQ are 'shook' by this pedophilic imp. What they are doing is far worse, they are scarring children and confusing children for life too.....oh and what's more it's just a matter of time before they view pedophilia thru another lens. I was just laughing watching that video. The are actively seeking to confuse and misdirect children even thru the school curriculum but find this supposedly shocking.

This argument of trying to equate two adults sleeping with eachother, with adults trying to sleep with children is now tired. It's 2023 - rest it.

elengine:
Thank you for this. It is a corporate. How can I have a limit of 30k and I won't benefit from it. O wrong now. E dey pain me

My corporate card has no limit. Worst of all, I spend so much on it, but can’t benefit from avios and stuff. I’ve made peace with the situation. You’d be fine too .

Solumtoya:
My friend's Mum stayed for 5 months and 29 days, travelled to Germany and came back after 2 days to stay another 5 months

Personally, I do 5 months at a stretch for Grandma. She's even registered at our GP sef.

Classic example of the people that Zahra commenter is talking about. Blatantly abusing processes with no care in the world. SMH.

Drey1:
Nah the genesis of his wahala be that. Make una dey careful with all this oyinbos. Don't be surprised that lady get all the recordings for hand and has tendered it for the work place. The fear of all this oyinbo is the beginning of wisdom . Next time , if he won do the do, make he follow fellow black lady talk.
Make him go start to dey find another job o cos those people might not likely call him back.

Bad advice. How about just being careful in general and not tresspassing when relating with the other gender? You think black ladies don't understand consent? Dey there o.

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Adunnishugar:
Hello house
sorry to derail from current discussion(s)
Please I need advice and it’s a long read
I was in a serious relationship before deciding to move to the UK on study route, we decided to get married and come together.
Now I am done with studies and currently on tier 2 visa (support work). I studied MSc Human Resources management btw.
The issue now is… my partner has an OND in marine engineering and minimal experience, age is also not on his side. And he is currently working in care.
I don’t want us to be stuck on this care work for too long. And I have been overthinking lately on what else is there to do, especially for him. As I still have my masters to fall back on. I keep asking him what he would like to do personally but it keeps changing. It’s almost like he doubts his own ability to take up some new career opportunities. We have tried cyber security but I don’t think he has any motivation for it. And I don’t want us to keep wasting time and money on it.

Please which other career options would you advise on based on this brief background information. I just want him to have something very stable going for him, especially since he is the dependant and has the flexibility to do almost any job or business.. we don’t mind the cost of training or the cost to startup a business, as long as it is a realistic long term investment.

He seems almost depressed with the care job and sometimes it’s as if I’m being blamed for bringing up the travelling/relocation idea, which I did because even back home things were stagnant and I did not see any future plans for improvement.

My candid advice - leave him alone and allow him figure out what he really wants. He is an adult and unless he has been bringing up the topic and asking for your inputs, you might be frustrating him by trying to act like you know what is best for him. Just leave him and let him breathe.

If being stuck in care work bothers you so much, then work towards getting out of it yourself using your own MSc, rather than expecting any magic with an OND certificate.

mayowa94:
Is it advisable for an international to travel out of the UK immediately after his course without changing changing his visa from student visa?

Switch your visa before you leave the UK. If you leave after completing your course and try to come back on the same student visa, the border officer can easily deny you entry because your reason for holding the visa is no longer valid.

Adedoks:
Hi good people.

I wanted to run this by the house. We recently switched from our TIER 4 visa to PSW as a family. My spouse and I got our new BRP.

I wanted to generate the share code for the right to work, after imputing the new number of my new BRP in the UK. gov site it said it doesn't match. Same for my wife.

But I then tried the old BRP number on my former TIER 4 dependent BRP. It worked and generated the share code. Showing my current visa status.
Same for my wife.

Is this normal?

For every new BRP, there is always a new number, right?
Because the number on the expired BRP is different from the one on the new BRP.
But it's the number on the expired BRP that is giving me the share code.

Should I contact UKVI

It’s normal. There’s an option to update your sign-in details on UKVI website. That’s what you should do.

koonbey:
I don't know how the care industry works she but how are employers getting away with bringing people and then not paying them?

Because Ko ye mi rara how someone can be in the country for months and not be paid despite having come in on a visa that requires both employer and employee to commit to a certain salary payment minimum.

If it was a normal contract the employer would be liable to pay in full at the end of every month for as long as the contract subsists, regardless of whether they give shifts.

So, are people getting SW visas on 0-hour contracts? Abi are the employers simply not paying the salaries due per contract?

This right here, is the question. What is being done to the worker is a criminal offence. Either that, or the skilled worker visa is an illegal arrangement from the start.

All the victim blaming that the rest are doing is an unneeded distraction from the issue at hand. No one should be moving from one job to another in a supposedly sane society and be worrying about 6 months contingency plan in case they don’t get paid. Makes zero sense.

DadR:
I greet o my people, it's been a minute!

Please, my son has an appointment at the Nigeria Embassy in London to renew his expired passport in 2 weeks time. The appointment time is 11am so I would like to confirm from those who have been there recently if it's possible to conclude the process latest 5pm on same day.

Reason I'm asking is because we live in the North-West area and would like to go and return by train on same day to avoid cost of lodging in BnB and for my son not to miss school for 2 days.

Thank you.

Did mine this month.

I also had appointment for 11am. I got there at few mins past 10. There was a large crowd, but I still managed to get everything finished by 1:30. So you should be fine.

They had a tally ticket machine that made the process orderly… but the thing stopped working just before I had almost completed my process and vawulence was about to break out as I was leaving

For those looking for sponsorship… there’s a simple cheat-code:
1. Don’t waste your time applying randomly! Before you even click on the apply button, google the company and know if they sponsor. You can even go further to google if they sponsor for that specific role/level. If the story no too clear, no waste your time.
2. Best bet is usually to apply to the big/multinational firms and avoid their London office (if you see the option to choose your office) to increase your chances of getting offers. Everyone else has the same genius idea as you of “na London o”, so there’s usually lesser competition for the other offices.

Additional points
3. Don’t sound desperate for sponsorship during the interview. Don’t even bring it up AT ALL during the process (do your own research and get the info independently). Wait till you get the offer and then bring it up if they are not offering it already.
4. Don’t shoot yourself in the foot by mentioning/suggesting PSV after your offer. As far as you’re concerned, you’re currently on a student visa and you would need a skilled worker visa to start your work after graduating. Stick to the story.
5. Turn down offers promising to sponsor you later on. It’s a trap/scam.

It goes without saying that you should have the required skills for the job you’re applying to and know the rudiments of job applications in the UK. Overall, just be very intentional with your search and make sure you’re tailoring it to the goal of getting sponsorship.

Abeg I no fit argue. If you don’t agree with me, no need to quote me to express it. I respect your point . God bless.

KingDemolah:
I captured on Feb 7th and collection date was April 6th. I'm still waiting till now.

Wow! A whole month behind? This is going to be an interesting wait...

Hello everyone. I went to capture for my Nigerian passport renewal today (10 years) and the collection date stated on the slip is 29th June. Wanted to ask the experience of people around this timeline. Do you normally receive your passport before or after the date stated on the slip, let me set realistic expectations for myself and chill.

Temi231:
I do not want to reply to this before but I believe some people make their decision depending on what they read online. I will appreciate it if you can quote any company in Nigeria that pays the equivalent of 48 million naira for a Manager in Nigeria. The one I worked for before in Nigeria is one of the highest-paid institutions in Nigeria and I can say with my full chest that a Deputy director does not even earn 52 million or 48 million yearly talk less than 40 million.

Unless you want to run things with paper company or being corrupt that the only way you can make exorbitant money in Nigeria.

The first job that I got out of university in Nigeria (definitely not manager level), I was earning around a million Naira per month as at the time (USD 2,600 to be exact). It was for a US company and I was working remotely. I was not living in Lagos either, which means my expense was very low and I was saving a TONNE of money.

If not for second passport wey I dey find, I no go dey UK ooo. The math is not mathing in this country make I no lie 😂.

Anyway… I think you guys should let this argument to rest. People would have different perspectives and experience to things like this. At the end of the day, it is individual choices. Let everyone do what they feel is right for them.

kode12:
Hi people, I've got a question that has always been at the back of my mind. Asking oyinbo might be a bit awkward but I'm sure naija should understand.
Why are there so many kids in the UK with autism or on the autistic spectrum? It almost seems as though the Brits consider it a badge of honor saying their kids are on the spectrum or to use it to claim disability.

I've seen a lot of kids who the parents claim are on the spectrum and honestly, they seem cognitively okay, and if it were naija some proper brain resetting beating every once in a while will likely realign the child, but the parents here just seem to use "on the spectrum" as a pass to allow the kids become uncontrollable and something a complete nuisance.

Is there some kind of inherited genetic predisposition for brits to be on the spectrum or is that just some quasi-cultural thing that has become part of the medical norm for doctors to just label the kids as on the spectrum?

##Or is my perception on the matter just skewed because Nigeria doesn't do enough testing to determine if kids are on the autistic spectrum or have cognitive disabilities and just assume the child is a "dullard"?

In addition to what has been said already, giving birth in Nigeria is already a case of natural selection. Nigeria has one of the highest birth mortality rates in the entire world. Most of the kids that are likely to develop a form of disability rarely even make it out of the womb alive to start with. Then you have the culture of shame that makes people hide away these kinds of kids.

Merge these two factors together and you end up in a situation like this, with a false sense of “healthier” kids.

ontolegit:
How much is this property of yours?

It’s been sold. Thanks

Phummy2984:
I had a son who is British citizen for a British partner but the father is not responsible for him. He only got him a British passport. I left the uk when he was 6months back to Nigeria. I applied to go to uk a year after but was refused a uk visa on d ground that I did not pay NHS bill when I had my baby. I contacted NHS and they set up a payment plan for me and I have not defaulted in payment. I pay every month. I applied for a uk visa this year and was still refused and my son is 8 years he wishes to return back to uk. Does it mean that my chances of ever goin to d uk is over what can I do. I even got NHS to write me a letter to the embassy still they refused me . Am thinking of reapplying

You should look towards a different visa route. I believe you may be qualified for a type of settlement visa as the primary carer to a dependant citizen (since your child is still underage). Up to you to research on it from here on…

OmichaelO:
Hi guys,

Good evening all, please I have a question

If my entry date is 20th august, can I book a flight for 19th but will land on 20th ?

Is there any reprecussion to this ?

Why am I doing this? it's because there is about 800 usd difference between flying on 19th and 20th.

Can I go ahead ?

Kindly advise

@justwise @lexusgs460. @giselle237

You can go ahead.

Lexusgs430:
You like vawulence.........

I come in peace sir

TheGuyFromHR:
Add this to your research:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jun/18/migrant-care-workers-paying-illegal-fees-recruiters

The report cites Indians to be the major perpetrators of this on their people. Later now… people here will come and preach to us on how Indians are heaven and earth to eachother. Anyway, what do I know.

jumpshot:
Whatever you do, please avoid Royal Air Maroc. Nothing royal about that company. I am royally pissed on God.

Share your story lol.

samint1:
Co-asking. Any advice please. Who has gotten provision license form from the post office, do you still need to register online?
Trying to cut the waiting time for dvla to deliver the form and return envelope.
Thanks

The right way to cut waiting time is to do it online.

mikylon:
Visa Alert!!!!
Biometric date : 12th May 2022
Passport ready for collection mail : 14th June 2022
Passport pick : 15th June 2022
Visitor Visa

Congratulations! Biko which tls is this?

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