₦airaland Forum

We're just going to keep losing more doctors to the UK.

meobizy:
Old men love this car. Like an asset, they always refuse to sell it. One of my neighbours has the car sitting on bricks, another gave his son some excess stock while an uncle has refused to sell his off while acquiring newer models. I have no idea when the vehicle became a symbol of status.

Landcruisers are some of the most durable SUVs, so they're pretty popular with some sections.
A Range Rover for example is super nice but not nearly as rugged.

ThatCEO:
When I was in secondary school, I once participated in a debate where I supported the motion that Democracy is better than military regime.

But now, I realised the rubbish I supported.

The "bad" military regime in Nigeria built 4 solid refineries. The Democracy people ran them to comatose, they can't built a refinery, they won't allow modular refinery as it will interfere with their corruption, n they still have the nerves to clamp down on d alleged "illegal refineries" in d creeks.

I will pick military all day. Try nonsense with Niger, una go hear am. People that can't tame a pack of bandits in the bush want to enter a war with a full grown country

The pack of bandits you're talking about is literally thousands of well armed fighters in large forests and expanse of land in several northern states. You people should have learned from the US army in Afghanistan that winning what is essentially a guerrilla warfare is not as easy as it sounds.
Be it a democracy or a military regime the economic dynamics right now are different than 30-50+ years ago.
Asides the political turbulence every time there was another coup, which my mom had to endure, a military administration in these times will likely draw a lot of sanctions and even further stall progress.

Rich4god:
For the sanity of our nation, Nigeria also need to place total control on twitter, Facebook, tellgram, infact all social media platforms. Cos the type of evils and propaganda that spreads through the platform will one day set our country ablaze.

You people praying for authoritarian rules because the current administration favors you. In an already corrupt government system you want to add absolute power? Lack of wisdom. There's the proverb about the forest saying the axe was one of them until it cut down everyone. Freedom of speech is an essential tenet of modern democracy. You cannot stop people from talking simply because you don't like what they say.

Beverlyjean:
Try it on twitter

What's easier to track between Nairaland and Twitter? Nairaland is under full Nigerian jurisdiction.
Twitter just has better moderation than Nairaland.

Beverlyjean:
Those that are attacking the coup plotters with this decision... is there any difference between them and ur leaders... can u express urself on social media without putting urself at risk of being arrested by DSS ... selective arrest .... youths were killed for protesting bad governance in Nigeria.....

Given the kind of bitter statements I see on Nairaland daily DSS would have arrested a quarter of Nairalander if they decided to act on it. We do in fact have a good deal of freedom of speech. Go on Twitter and see people. Freedom of speech anywhere is not an excuse for hateful speech yet a lot of it on social media in Nigeria goes without consequence.

daygee12:
Which is far better than being a Presidential aspirant without winning.

Who loses even before contesting?

illicit:
Yeah sure

There are always exceptions to every norms or situations

There's something called Language interference, it's a whole course in Linguistics

I am a Linguist

I'd be more interested in ensuring kids speak many languages fluently than focus solely on English. Some parents apply the same logic even with their own languages.
If kids read well enough, sometimes watch TV programmes in proper English & use it adequately in the right contexts, it'll definitely help them master English & each language with minimal language interference.

illicit:
In China, they don't teach them in pidgin too

U could have advocated for being taught in Indigenous language

Pidgin English is colloquial English

Why the parents and teachers frown at it is because it affects your proper English Language Learning and usage

I am a Linguist

Most of my cousins speak pristine English when they want and they still speak pidgin fluently. This is nothing but faux elitism. We are capable of speaking more than one language properly.

Righteousness2:
Apt.
If Soccer takes the place of God in your life it becomes an idol. It becomes a sin
If your business or Job takes the place of God in your life, it becomes an idol and a sin.
If your spouse or kids take the place of God in your life, they become idols.

GOD is number 1. Any other thing is becomes an idol.

This god-first attitude is what Islamic extremists/jihadists use as excuse for their heinous crimes. If God exists, he is second to my family and everyone that matters to me. My humanity is priority over any form of spirituality.

inoki247:
Good if people are not getting it easy they should protest without waiting for any NLC during cash Scarcity they're no where to be found instead they believe it will help dere candidate while the masses were suffering nd some fool strt to call People that protest den as been sponsored or SW protest ..

Courts restricted labor unions from embarking on strike. They were told to negotiate. Gone are the days of embarking on strike on every issue.

Benwallt:
At this point in his career? If true, that means only one player plays football for passion ( Messi ) . The rest na money money money

Messi is earning over a 100 million dollars annually. Abeg how many people earn that much?
PSG wants to either force Mbappe to stay or they squeeze out a fat transfer fee for whoever is willing to pay. They don't want to let him go for free or cheap. It's a toxic relationship at this point.

Acekidc4:
The Same thing i have been telling them, it's for a while, Endure!! Endurance no dey kill person Na!! Just Small Endure Una don dey shout Upandan like say Dem collect Una Lives. Weak People everywhere.

LMAO. For a while? It only gets expensive from here. Please don't cite local refinery as solution to bring cheap fuel. Petrol will remain expensive because crude is sold at international prices.
We're headed down inflation & high cost of living. If the naira loses value Petrol will increase even more. Tinubu has already achieved his explicit goal of reducing purchasing power.

AsomughaChuks05:
Nigerians still trust Tinubu to keep his promise, if not, protests would have broken out by now like it was during the CBN cash crunch debacle. Even the NLC and TUC are at peace with Tinubu as all await the Dangote refinery to start production.

LMAO. You sound ridiculous with this false hope, please. Petrol will not sell at 200 or lower unless crude oil price crashes by maybe 70% or naira appreciates to 200/$, which is impossible. Dangote will buy crude at international prices when he starts refining, so maybe slightly cheaper but still expensive nonetheless. When the person in power was from a minority tribe, people collaborated to give him bad press about removing subsidy. Now everyone's quiet and accepting the suffering. Did Nigerians trust Buhari when he increased pump price? It's just a matter of accepting suffering as a norm.

slawomir:
Damnnn niggar

Yeah

I love abuja as well

Though I stay in Benin city

But I pay a visit to abuja regularly

And infact I went there in June four times

Nice, calm and serene place if you ask me
But accommodation money is too much and I also noticed one thing...no too much lexus car over there them dey forbid am for there?

Na Yahoo boys dey like used Lexus for Benin. There are other cars people drive.

kingthreat:
So David Hundenyin is the new saint and has never told a lie before? Well adore him in your mind.

If we're to count liars I'll start from politicians in government who affect me directly. Probably also people like you that worship Nigerian politicians who habitually ruin the country.

kingthreat:
I will like to read his reason and that of the immigration officials in Zimbabwe. Hundenyin is full of lies.

He exposes enough truth about the government and politicians for me to give him the benefit of the doubt. At least I have seen enough of that. It's usually people affiliated with the government that are uncomfortable with his activities.

kingthreat:
So because of one Twitter individual, you are ready to denigrate an entire country? Man, some of you reason via your anuses.

If you read his reason you'd realise the primary issue is that he's Nigerian.

TemplarLandry:
Reno the astute social commentator. The oil on your head will never run dry. I'm in agreement with you.

I dedicate “Oil In My Head” by Black Sheriff to Reno. Great jam!

You people have no idea that it's an awful idea for a country that is in dire need of foreign investments. The moment you start to nationalize assets belonging to foreign nationalities, the little FDI coming in will dry permanently and we will make zero progress. Right now we need billions of dollars in FDI annually to make progress. Everyone with a populist idea on social media sounds like a great economist on paper until things backfire. It's like the fuel subsidy issue and printing of money that will drive us to hyperinflation.

amadil14:
Do you know what it takes to do decking??

The fact that they're ignoring the decking is amusing

airsaylongcome:
Yeah I know all of those. I was wondering why you were restricting it to the iPhone in the US.

I'm just citing developed countries where it's most popular. Americans are the biggest users of FaceTime calling.

airsaylongcome:
And many people don't know that VoIP calls while cheap are also mostly very insecure

The government can already listen to and record your conversations via cellular calls. You're better off using WhatsApp calls if you're so concerned about snooping as it's supposed to be encrypted.

airsaylongcome:
Can you explain the bolded a bit more

VOIP is basically Voice Over Internet Protocol. So voice calls using an internet connection as opposed to regular cellular calls. For iPhone it's things like FaceTime calls and WiFi calling.

TOBILOBA2023:
I noticed that some people sees use of WhatsApp for calls as unprofessional.

I prefer WhatsApp calls to normal voice calls because it's more cheaper and also helps save normal call airtime for lines that are not registered on WhatsApp.

A woman refused to engage me in business discussion because I called her via WhatsApp. She feels I'm not serious or professional enough.

Do you have any issues with WhatsApp calls for business/official purposes?

Nigerian mentality. I heard people in the UK prefer WhatsApp calls and in the US there's some level of preference for VOIP calls using iPhone.
It's the same mindset with babes sometimes where they think you're unserious because of WhatsApp calls.

ajepako:
That's APC legacy especially in Lagos

I drove around obalende last week and l couldn't but shed tears for my dear state

It's like everybody and l mean everybody is now agbero or ticket collector

From grandfather to fathers to grandsons including women

It's a far cry from the Lagos we were raised in , in the 80s

Shomolu, Fadeyi, Mushin, Onipanu, lyana Oworo, Bariga, Ketu and Ebute meta are even worse

Agberoism seems to have become the ambition of an average drop out and it won't become a societal menace if government is not actively or subtly involved

Asking around, l was told these drop outs and miscreants are allocated hoods, tarmac and spots in strategic suburbs to collect levies and taxes as rewards for their political loyalty during election..

Politicians don't reward them with education to improve their lives or decent jobs to be useful but as ticket collectors while their own progenies study abroad and fill top vacancies in Alausa

Olorun a saanu wa

If only every Nairaland comment was as thoughtful and well thoughtout as yours. The rest of the comments seem to be from people who were raised in anger and hatred & either lack an education or fail to deploy it. Even things which can be analysed outside of key political figures become a Tinubu, Obi issue or even worse a ground for ethnic mudslinging.

2mch:
Nigeria is a group of nations within a boundary. Tribalism does not exist if you look at it properly. It’s normal for all nations, ethnic or otherwise to defend their interest or boundaries and history. It is this colonialist mindset to want to erase a peoples identity and pretend they are one. It has not even succeeded in the US. Not to talk of Nigeria. The problem in Nigeria is a lack of respect for others, their lands and their history by a particular set of people who know they are at a disadvantage with what their ancestors left them. Plus their culture of greed and covetousness makes them seek for sneaky ways to steal like what Okey is suggesting. They are the most clannish and tribal, which is the funny thing.

Funny enough when they talk about self-rule and independence some people will rain hell and hail in words. Almost every Nigerian is clannish and tribal. I don't care if they're from the tribe I suppose you are. I have met many from different backgrounds and the internet is rife with toxic comments from the south. And no, tribalism or racism is never a good thing. The fact that something is difficult to achieve does not make it a bad ideal. I believe humanity first should be the primary goal and not unhealthy tribal groupthink.
People can maintain some sense of identity and still be fair and humane. So no tribal identity should override my humanity. Plus, almost no human alive today can claim that his ancestors didn't intermix with different groups and form this identity we think is fixed in stone pure.
In my tribe, for example, some parts have part origin from neighboring ethnic groups yet we're considered one group.

Unperturbedpota:
Fiction. Middle class doesn't exist anymore in Nigeria

Inflation does not eliminate a middle class. If anything I know more middle class people now than when I was growing up. Things are expensive but there's a lot of middle class Nigerians.

lanre4411:
I agree with you 100 percent It’s either you are rich Or you are poor In Nigeria of today God help us

Denying reality does not change facts. Even Americans are experiencing inflation but it doesn't eliminate their middle class. Things are harder for all but the richest, but some are still comfortable without being obscenely rich.

Draslo:
Rent : 1.5m (2 bed flat in a Middle class area)
Power : 300k
Petrol/Diesel (car, business home) :
Break down (petrol): Car -15k weekly = 780k
Home - 10k weekly = 520k
Businesses - 30k weekly
Total for petrol : 2.86m
Feeding : 1.825m at 5k daily
Miscellaneous : 1.5m
Village People problems : 1m

Total is 8.68m...


My conclusion. You cannot earn 500k and claim middle class anymore. You can't even save and this is for a single person.
You can cut your coat according to your size but you definitely can't claim middle class anymore

LMAO. What you enlisted is UPPER MIDDLE CLASS kind of spending, not just middle class. Yes, there's such a thing as a lower middle class. My neighbourhood is pretty much middle class & you can get a decent two bedroom for under a million.
You can't include business fuel expense under personal or home expense. It doesn't work that way.
However, 500k per annum is not middle class like the OP stated.