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jalether:
Carrick has performed fantastically for utd until this season, helping the team win 3 epl titles in a row yet he should be offloaded based on 1 awful season,

totally disregarding his previous valuable contributions. but players like fletcher and nani who only recently stepped up to the plate should be retained.

I don't get that logic

TKB is high on shekpe as usual.
Carrick should be sold because he had a horrible season once in his United career----Na wa o.
Chelsea shoulda sold Drogba 2 seasons ago when he scored 9 goals in 33 appearances by his logic.

tkb417:
simple
its a professional football club where only the best plays. the reason why we still have peeps like Gary, Oshea and co is cos of SAF, any right thinking man would have auctioned them one time. if SAF's methodlogy is close to what Mourinho does, UTD would have won the UCL like 6 times

UTD is not an academy, when you lose form, go to a lower club.Can you remember Mateja Kezman, Asel Del Horno, SWP and co. where are they?

And there is the difference between Jose Mourinho and Alex Ferguson.

Mourinho is a short-term manager. He gets a job. . . .Buys the players he wants, weed off the ones that doesn't fit into his plans and then win titles.
No future plans for youth players or players that are WORK-IN-PROGRESS.
As soon as Mourinho wins everything that country has to offer, he leaves em and move to another league.
How many clubs has Mourinho managed now in 5 years?

U wanna compare that to SAF who has to bed in players, take his time and patience and build several title-winning teams?
Please pass the weed you are smoking to the dude on your left side.
This analogy is way off the mark. There's a universe of difference between a short-term manager and a long-term manager.

tkb417:
you call the debut seasons for Evra and Vida off seasons? how? they were just coming to terms with the realities in EPL and it took them time to adjust

Why should it take seasoned professionals TIME to adjust to the EPL.
Vermaelen had a better debut season than Vida and Evra did for Man Utd.

RIO has always been erratic and as we are now, we dont have adequate replacements. when we do, we can offload and besides, RIO brings a lot of experience to fore whenever he plays

Rio has been the best defender in this country for the past 4-5 seasons.
There's no question about what he brings to the team. His back problems hindered his performance this season and he said he lied about the extent of his injury to SAF so he can play more games. He wasn't fit to play at all in the games he copped earlier in the season.

Fletcher has always been like Oshea. neither here nor there. hes just raising his game. i can safely say Fletcher is just playing like a UTD player should play. He was never up to scratch so why label him as if he was ever a brilliant player.

Fletcher had his moments - He single-handedly steamrolled Jose's Chelsea in the peak of their powers in 2005.
I also remember Fletcher giving Vieira, Edu and Gilberto Silva some football lessons in the FA cup semis of 2004 at the age of 20.

can you remember how Keano described him and some others? they were never good enuff just until recently so your off form theory wont hold here

But if we had sold him when Keano berated him, it woulda been a monumental loss for Man Utd.
Asking Carrick to be sold now is a tad premature. . . . .He could have a blinder again next season.
How many times have Paul Scholes looked dead n buried only for him to come back to LIFE and contribute immensely to the CAUSE?
Form is temporary, class is permanent. Michael Carrick is a brilliant midfielder - I have seen enough of him to know.

Carrick on the other hand has always been a good player. Spurs and his first 3 years in UTD. but what he displayed this year was abysymal compared to his past efforts.

I agree but it does not mean he cannot raise his game back and gave us the performances of his first 3 seasons at Man Utd.

jalether:
What has rio done in the 13 lge games he played this season?

Ferdinand

P13 W10 D1 L2 PTS31

If we transpose that over the course of a season, Man Utd woulda won without hassles.

and at the berbatov comment, I hope you were joking sauron.

How can i possibly joke?
United lost 2 of their best players in Ronaldo and Tevez and all Chelsea had to show for that was a solitary point.
Of course, Berbatov was fecking fantastic last season. He ran more and created more only for his team-mates to squander the chances.
The world-class pass he gave Valencia against Blackburn will linger in me memory for years. Had Valencia scored that, Carlotti wlda been sacked.

jalether:
add Rio 09/10 and berbatov 08/09+09/10 to the list as well.

Rio had 13 league appearances in 38. . . . . .I dunno how that suggests he had a bad form.
Renties cannot reason even if their lives depended on it.

Berbatov had a fantastic season in 2009/10.
In 08/09, he was even better than Tevez and Rooney put together.

mama-gee:
[color=deeppink]I would just keep my mouth shut and watch him like a good wife that I am.[/color]

Good girl. . . . . . .

tkb417:
i cant remember when the people u listed were off form for ONE GOOD SEASON

i think he deserves to be 'repatriated' to spurs

Evra(05/06)
Vidic(05/06)
Rio(04/05 + 05/06)
Fletcher(05/06 + 06/07 + 07/08)

eldee:
I watch them, that doesn't make me a fan.
That's like saying I'm a fan of Le Scum because I watch their matches.

If you watch em, then you are a fan.
No two ways about it.

They're long and boring and have no relation to modern reality.

The best movies ever made in Hollywood are the stories plucked from the history books.

24 on the other hand is 9/11's first born.
It's the most interesting thing that's been on TV since those planes crashed into the towers.

Watch Sleeper Cell. . . . . .It's 500 times better than 24 and has to be first born of 9/11.

eldee:
I didn't like this Season at first, but when it got into full gear, it got really good.
Come on, how will you say you didn't like the Logan scene where he was crying like a little girl??

It got interesting till the final episode.

This season's 24 is the worst in history.
The best season yet was Season 3 when Jack was working for Ramon Salazar(Drug Baron) in Mexico.

300 was all graphics and toned men . . . Troy was better in my opinion.

300? Troy?
I thunk you don't watch Greek movies.

tkb417:
so if he fails to live up to the billing again, we lose another title?

so we must suffer for his loss of form?

If we had sold Fletcher, Nani, Rio, Evra and Vidic when they were out of form, we would never have known how good they are.
Managing a team takes a whole loads of patience.

Carrick has spent 4 seasons in Man Utd - His midfield had won 3 of those.
By all means, he deserves AT LEAST one more season to prove himself.

eldee:
Oz got boring jare . . .

And 24 didn't get BORING??
Chasing terrorists season to season ain't boring? Eldee, please don't make me laugh.
If you watched the earlier series of 24, you will hate the current season. It's too FLAT.

Spartacus is just weird, I'm not a fan of Greek movies, watching Greek series . . . nah!!

But u milked 300. . . . .

Maxidoe:
It is so sad how some nairalanders cherish OBJ,this is a man who dragged Nigeria uncountable steps backward.But one thing they have actually failed to do is to outline those great achievements in 8good years,yes 8years, no government in Nigeria have ever been opportune d to receive what OBJ received in the federation account as a result of sky rocketing fuel price in the international Market.I wonder why we always celebrate mediocrity.If anyone here have been opportune d to visit Ghana,Togo,Cameroun,Ivory Coast,Senegal, this countries to a large extent have defeated the monster called blackout.OBJ disciples can you please outline what he achieved in 8 years worth mentioning.GSM was a technology that as waiting to happen,yet he could not ensure the vibrancy and continuity of Nitel to efecticvely compete with this new ones,he killed  it after he sold it to himself.And @Bluetooth if your sister was despoiled by some smelling drunk soldiers,and your siblings killed, and your family house burnt you wont be making that kinda wicked statement about the actions in Zaki biam and Odi, so you are saying despoiling and killing innocent women and children is a means of correcting a community, you are just pathetic not cos of your views,but cos of your level of reasoning,

OBJ this was a man:
-Who slept with his daughter inlaw and broke the marriage of his son
-Who met more than 3000 mega watt been generated and left with 1000plus mega watt been generated after spending 16 billion dollars,how many governments have spent that amount on power.)
-Destroyed Nitel
-Institutionalised corruption
-Spent whooping billions of dollars on refinery yet, he imports refined fuel
-No government ever increased fuel price like he did.
-Inflation was at its worst in his regime(How much was transportation cost when he came to power in 1999, and how much was it when he left)
-He counducted the worst election in Nigerian history.
-Sent soldiers to despoil,maime,and kill innocent women and children in odi and zaki biam.
I can go on and on, lets not allow ethnic sentiments to erode our way od reasoning,OBJ was a curse on Nigeria,a disgrace to the ethnic group called yoruba and an insult to the nationality called Nigeria,i hope nemesis catches up with him, cos he is indeed an arcused,for his praise singers,you have your reasons, but somethings(foolishness) are better left within, why wash your dirty linen in public

He will certainly die a violent death or Ebola.

eldee:
I don't get this new Jack Bauer, the old Jack shot his boss and Curtis to get the job done.
This new one is trying to assassinate a Russian President because of a woman he shagged once.

And then he backs down because of what Chloe told him.

Jack didn't listen to his wife or his closest pals like Tony, but he's listening to Chloe after he'd come that far??
I still want to see the movie though, and 24 is still the bestest TV show.

Oz
Rome
Spartacus.

eldee:
@Sauron

Did you see the 24 Season Finale??
I'm disappointed, all the action and Jack starts crying like a naughty woman at the end . . . lol

Jack Bauer is a disgrace
I have washed ma hands off him. . . . .Logan is a twunt too.

Yefet:
ICPC,EFFC Is good idea, but if he had let them work believe me all the so called godfathers and top politicians and so many others wont be out making noise. They were all created to Witch hunt Politicians

Created to witch-hunt OBJ's political rivals.
OBJ is an obnoxious fat pig with little or no leadership nous.

Air Crash Investigation
Banged Up Abroad
The First 48

Ibime:
Or perhaps Carrick just had one good year in 07/08, and is now revealing his true colours. . .

And yet Ibime's selective amnesia kicks into PLAY again.
Michael Carrick was better than any Chelsea midfielder in 06/07 and 07/08.

To be fair, he's been shyte in the current season
Had he maintained his consistency, i strongly believe United woulda won their 4th title in a row.

This is the first time his midfield has failed to win a league title since Carrick joined Man Utd.
Not too many midfielders can boast of that - I say give him one more season to prove himself.

Eastbay:
OBJ had the best opportunity to move this country forward.
Instead he dragged it back by decades.
Forget about the GSM thing.If we go by the indices of growth during his tenure,the brother set us back big-time.
Like Dayokanu says,he has nothing tangible to boast of.
If in a democratic era,genocide-style incidents like Zaki-Biam/Odi happened,and there is nobody to hold accountable,I guess there is no point in arguing in his favour.
If after 8 years of OBJ,there is no form of stable electricity (which is a key requirement for development),there are more bad roads than when he took over,there is more insecurity in the Niger Delta and the general populace,there is more unemployment,there is a band of political thugs called PDP,I don't see what the noise is about his achievements.
Against the backdrop of the record oil prices during his tenure,the dude has really nothing to show for if all he did was to put an ailing Yar'Adua as his successor.All we are left with is the corruption of his era.Dudes like Odili,Anenih all walk scot-free in the era of a joke of an EFCC while political opponents were witch-hunted.He cannot be Nigeria's best president ever.

Stop wasting words on OBJ - Nigeria's biggest simpleton.
He is useless beyond useless. . . . .He had 8 stable years to make an impact in Nigeria but he failed woefully.
The only thing he succeeded doing was banging his daughter-in-law. What a disgrace of a man!!!

If anyone says OBJ is the best president Nigeria ever had, i will piss in his/her face.

Akolawole:
1) And his No 1 critic is Mr Sharoun. Why cant you just says "he proved me/us wrong"

He's yet to prove me wrong. . . . .but he's proven DK and Eastbay wrong.
It takes more than trophies to make a manager a genius.

2) Prior to Saturday, If JM was not a genius, my stand was who then is a genius?

E be like say you like me repeating myself.
For the 10000000000000000000000th time, Sir Alex Ferguson is a genius.

3) In all my years in football, i have never read or hear anyone saying Football managers drop form. Doe mean his brain his sleeping or what?

Football managers drop form sometimes.
12 months ago, Jose Mourinho's brain was asleep when his team got eliminated woefully by Ferguson.

With no reference to any coach, who is a genius(coach i mean) ?

See above!!!

y me:
am i on your rader?

I know where you at. . . . .

NSNA:
There is no question about that, the International community respects him

International community respects any democratic president.
If IBB, Abacha and Buhari had ruled as democratic presidents, they will earn the respect of the world powers.

OBJ is a useless, pest-natured SOB.
The worst Nigeria ever had - It's a shame some Nigerians have had wool pulled over their eyes.

tkb417:
ill need to enlist the services of a wizard to figure out where your sexy body is tucked right now

apiary should be in England/Nigeria. so whisper into me ears and lets stop this preable

So you mean you dunno where Y me dwells? Cheese n Rice.
Hit me on BB and i'll tell you.

tkb417:
u dey crase; den send u to me

see, anywhere tin ba nlo, mo man lo pelu ibon
i sabi Dagrin lines pass u

To ba fe k'won sha e bale, wa fori bale.

xy:
I truely Love the girl and really will never think of doing her bad because of my friendship with her brother. The brother is like my twin, we are very close. I ve also used style to ask him if his friend wants to date and marry his sister, will he allow it and he said as far his friend is anice guy,that he will certainly accept. Meanwhile, i know the girl and i like each other, and he knows iam a nice guy, should i open up and tell my guy? I never pray to loose his friendship either, i don't know how he will feel about it;his closest friend asking his sister out though the sister has graduated and a big girl too

Then the decision is with the sister. . . . .She's a full-blown adult.
If she considers you nice enough to date. . . .I see no problem.

Although i wouldn't make such a move but you seem genuine enough.
Go for it.

tkb417:
sharrap
u see ring for her finger? im also married u Arrow

Married to who? Ayettymomma?

go mind your biz o b4 i put my fingers in your eyes

Fara bele, Koye feyin hale

tkb417:
so i shd marry an ugly babe when people like yme full ground

u wicked no be small

Y me is a married woman. . . . .Stick to your Ayettymama.

dayokanu:
Can you give us a picture of your child with Ennyluv?

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dayokanu:
Sauron can marry all the ugly babes

That wouldn't be a problem. . . . Ma genes are extremely dominant.
Even if i marry Kemistry, she will still produce Beyoncesque daughters

xy:
Pls, Iam really in love with my closest friend sister and i have good intentions for her, the lady in question also likes me however, i don't know how my friend will see it. But the guy knows iam a good guy. What are your views, do i go forward or withdraw? pls your good suggestions will be greatly welcome.

U have to go forward - U have come this far to express your self to NLers.
There's no going back.
Come baq to us in a fortnight and tell us wetin your eyes see.

tkb417:
u fit marry ugly babe?
your children go just worwor

If you don't marry an ugly babe, who would marry them?
Make una pity the fuglies na. . . . . . .

tkb417:
an ugly , rude, unintelligent woman who cannot cook will be a NO NO for me

dayokanu:
Even that Maicon for Alvez is very debatable self.

I don't want Krayola and Khanye to commit suicide so i made it Maicon = Alves

dayokanu:
Van Gaal can only play with the material at hand. Position for postion Inter has better players than Bayern in at least 8 out of 11.

On saturday he had the advantage in talents and quality

Inter have better players in 10 positions out of 11.
People seem to forget Inter have got quality players. . . . .Even against Barca at Nou Camp, Inter had better players on show.

Cesar >> Valdes

Maicon = Alves
Pique = Samuel
Lucio >> Yaya Toure
Chivu >> Milito

Zanetti >> Busquets
Sneijder << Xavi
Motta = Keita

Sneijder >> Pedro
Etoo >> Ibrahimovic
Milito << Messi.

In other words, only Xavi and Messi are sure starters if they play in Inter with Pique and Keita on the border-line.

Dr Kitaun:
Check NAIRALAND section. They are more popular than even Seun himself, dude had to excommunicate him b4 peeps start thinking NL starts and ends with our own Debo . . .

Dr. Kit. . . . .Your information is military-graded.
Where do you get em from? Have you got links in Langley, Virginia?

chamotex:
He's already on his thread yarning about "We need to offload this and that", "We need to get this and that"
"We need new centre backs", "We should sign Skrtel", "We need Dzeko".

DayoNazi is currently delirious.