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Papist:
Yes that quote from the Catholic catechism contradicts centuries of Church teaching from Popes, Church doctors and saints. Personally I agree with the saints and disagree with the modernist catechism on this. Besides, the catechism is not an infallible document. Neither is Nostra Aetate. Did you say the Catholic Profession of faith? The Catholic profession of faith is the Credo in Unum Deum, not the Catechism.

Papist:
What Romance? Just the modern heresy of religious indifferentism that has infected most Catholic bishops including the Pope. By the way, they act with this religious indifferentism towards Protestants as well. The Pope was recently in Sweden to commemorate Martin Luther! Here is what Catholic saints said(these are people whose teachings we must value as Catholics):

“Whoever does not embrace the Catholic Christian
faith is lost, like your false prophet Muhammad.”
-St. Peter Mavimenus (d. 8th century), martyr from
Gaza. Response reported in the Martyriologum
Romanum when he was asked to convert to Islam by a group of Muslims.


“There is also the superstition of the Ishmaelites
which to this day prevails and keeps people in
error, being a forerunner of the Antichrist…. From
that time to the present a false prophet named
Mohammed has appeared in their midst. This man,
after having chanced upon the Old and New
Testaments and likewise, it seems, having
conversed with an Arian monk, devised his own
heresy. Then, having insinuated himself into the
good graces of the people by a show of seeming
piety, he gave out that a certain book had been
sent down to him from heaven. He had set down
some ridiculous compositions in this book of his
and he gave it to them as an object of veneration.”
-St. John Damascene (d. 749), Syrian Arab Catholic
monk and scholar. Quoted from his book On Heresies
under the section On the Heresy of the Ishmaelites (in
The Fathers of the Church. Vol. 37. Translated by the
Catholic University of America. CUA Press. 1958.
Pages 153-160.)

“We profess Christ to be truly God and your
prophet to be a precursor of the Antichrist and
other profane doctrine.”
-Sts. Habenitus, Jeremiah, Peter, Sabinian,
Walabonsus, and Wistremundus (d. 851), martyrs of
Cordoba, Spain. Reported in the Memoriale Sanctorum
in response to Spanish Umayyad Caliph ‘Abd Ar-
Rahman II’s ministers that they convert to Islam on
pain of death.
“Any cult which denies the divinity of Christ, does
not profess the existence of the Holy Trinity,
refutes baptism, defames Christians, and
derogates the priesthood, we consider to be
damned.”
-Sts. Aurelius, Felix, George, Liliosa, and Natalia (d.
852), martyrs of Cordoba, Spain. Reported in the
Memoriale Sanctorum in response to Spanish Umayyad
Caliph ‘Abd Ar-Rahman II’s ministers that they convert
to Islam on pain of death.

“The Mahometan paradise, however, is only fit for
beasts; for filthy sensual pleasure is all the
believer has to expect there.”
St. Alfonsus Liguori (d. 1787). Quoted from his book,
The History of Heresies and their Refutation.

“On the other hand, those who founded sects
committed to erroneous doctrines proceeded in a
way that is opposite to this, the point is clear in
the case of Muhammad. He seduced the people by
promises of carnal pleasure to which the
concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teaching
also contained precepts that were in conformity
with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal
pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected, he was
obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of
his doctrine, he brought forward only such as
could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone
with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that
he taught he mingled with many fables and with
doctrines of the greatest falsity. He did not bring
forth any signs produced in a supernatural way,
which alone fittingly gives witness to divine
inspiration; for a visible action that can be only
divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth.
On the contrary, Muhammad said that he was sent
in the power of his arms—which are signs not
lacking even to robbers and tyrants.”
-St. Thomas Aquinas (d. 1274), Theologian and Doctor
of the Church. Quoted from his De Rationibus Fidei
Contra Saracenos, Graecos, et Armenos and translated
from Fr. Damian Fehlner’sAquinas on Reasons for the
Faith: Against the Muslims, Greeks, and Armenians
(Franciscans of the Immaculate. 2002.).

evilapc:
God did not save all for Jesus obedience. ..Jesus said, His father will bring to him those who are for him...Jesus made it clear that there are chosen FEW people for him

jonbellion:
hehe special pleading strikes again

UyiIredi:
But people still die because of Adam's sin. The only so-called difference Jesus makes is that they ain eternal life in death. That doesn't remove the fact that mankind was cursed to death because of Adam's mistake.

Chai ! Pathetic excuse.

UyiIredi:
1) Condemned all mankind to death for Adam's sin (Gen 3:17-19, Rom 5;14). This is wrong.

2) Killed a man for trying to steady the ark of God (2 Sam 6:7). Morally outrageous.

3) Drowned the whole earth in a flood including innocent kids and babies (Gen 7: 21-23). This makes God worse than Hitleror Mao.

4) Killed Onan for refusing to impregnate his late brother's wife (Gen 38: 9-10). This wasn't wrong.

5) Condoned slavery in the OT

6) Slaughtered innocent firstborn Egyptian children because of the actions of their king (Exo 12:29)

7) Killed Israelites for complainaning that God killed them (Num 16: 41-49)

Killed Aninias and Sapphira for lying (Acts 5:1-10). Lying is wrong but killing people for that is also wrong.

9) Sacrificed an innocent Jesus to forgive humanity (Heb 9:28). This doesn't make sense. Even humans won't sacrifice someone else to forgive a person. An omniscient God should know better.

And this list is by no means exhaustive. Typically, Christians give excuses for such obviously immoral acts. A popular one is that is he is a God of justice. However. these acts clearly are unjust and would earn scorn from such Christians if a human performed them. It just goes to show how people can justify evil under religion.

Deicide:
He is Right You know...

Thoniameek:
The only reason muslims get preferential treatment is to avoid trouble

aminusanti:
☆John 7:16 (ESV)
So Jesus answered them, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me.
= MESSENGER(Prophet)

☆John 17:8 (ESV)
8 For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me
= MESSENGER(Prophet)

☆Mark 6:4 (ESV)
And Jesus said to them, “ A prophet is not without honor, except in his hometown and among his relatives and in his own household.”
=MESSENGER (prophet)

☆2.Corinth.12:12.
“When I was with you, I certainly gave you every proof that I am truly an apostle, sent to you by God himself. For I patiently did many SIGNS and wonders and MIRACLES among you.”

But unfortunately u pple prefer following paul(the deceiver) rather than jesus n his teachings

Jesus: "DO NOT CALL ANYONE ON EARTH YOUR FATHER; for ONE IS YOUR FATHER, HE who is in heaven"
(Matthew 23:9)

The devil 'PAUL' BLASPEMOUSLY BOASTED

"For I BECAME YOUR FATHER"
(1 Corinthians 4:15)

" JESUS came to Galilee PREACHING THE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM "
(Mark 1:14, Matt.4:23).

JESUS said " THIS GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM will be PREACHED, IN MY NAME in all the world
(Matt.24:14).

'PAUL' CAME preaching, by his own admission, ANOTHER GOSPEL PROMOTING LAWLESSNESS and LICENTIOUSNESS

Seun:
We are told that when people speak in tongues or sing/pray in the spirit, they are speaking in the 'tongues of angels' and not human languages. However, we know that the tongues spoken by millions of spirit-filled Christians are quite unique. This implies that angels have millions of languages. This makes no sense, because it suggests that heaven is a place of confusion. If all angels are united under God's leadership, one would expect all of them to speak the same language. I can't think of any reason why God's angels would have so many languages. Can you?

FriendChoice:
Your opinion.

FriendChoice:
Are u a Muslim? No. So when we call Jesus Servant. Don't cl it blasphemy

FriendChoice:
We don't insult Jesus don't lie to us.

Islam is the only non Christian faith that made it an article of faith to Believe in Jesus as God's Messenger. No Muslim is Muslim if he those not believe in Jesus. To insult Jesus in Islam is blasphemy that can take someone out of Islam. If that is the reason u need Christian section, then it's invalid reason.

Who is threatening him, where, when?

FriendChoice:
No Muslim wount do that. You enjoyed insulting Islam just like that. And seu.n a non Muslim decided to regulate it. So no Muslim will clamour re-integration.

FriendChoice:
If you have valid question on Islam I can answer you but not insults or foolish argument.

FSMs:
Why would UnAlcholic wine Burst An Old wineskin it didn't Say spoilt wineskine o explain

And also Explain why the Translation of Bottle was used And not Wineskin? Why wasn't wineskin used for the Translation?

raphieMontella:
we've seen cases of married people s*xing on the streets in the road...so its not distinctively a private issue...

And i'm talking about paul..not jude..lest i quote other bible authors..
Did paul say taking alcohol is a sin?

FSMs:
This is what the passage said stop forming your own words..

Luk 5:37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.

Why would the New wine Burst the Old bottle?

FSMs:
One bottle of bear is not up to 0.08 didn't you do the calculation?

OLAADEGBU:
In Isaiah, there are 66 verses that have the word "righteousness" and/or "salvation."

FSMs:
Did you think i wasn't going to open the Link i no lazy reach that one

FSMs:
How would storing UnAlcholic wine Burst A bottle and if they didn't have bottles then why did jesus mention it please do u guys read what you write at all?

FSMs:
Explain how drinking Moderately would intoxicate a new comer and then make the drunk

FSMs:
So that verse is for new comers?

raphieMontella:
You know indulgence is different from just taking right?
In Gal.5 it seems to be indulgence he is referring to.....
And by saying ''do it at home'''..its like saying..although s*x between married couples is not a sin in christian theology..but it is inappropriate to do such in church...
Catch the drift?

Or are you saying paul was saying its okay to sin at home but not in the church?

FSMs:
Please can you Explain to me How UnAlcholic Wine would burst A Bottle?

Luk 5:37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.