₦airaland Forum

bigfrancis21:
The article you quoted was written by a Yoruba man, Olukoya Gen, which explains the Yorubanization of the Haitian Revolution. What else do you expect him to write?

Do you have any European/non-yoruba sources that confirm his supposed Yoruba ancestry?

And how did I know you were going to come here and say just that? lol

You don’t have anything to say about the very premise of this thread itself?

Surely not. It is Francis afterall.

Wulfruna:
Well, it isn't certain he was Muslim - the sources all say 'probably'. And he was called Boukman because he taught himself to read and write. Not because he carried a Qu'ran about.

Voodoo (from vodun) was a Fon (not a Yoruba) import to the New World.

Well, yes The greatest African influences in voodoo were Fon and Kongo practices, although the Kongo were numerically superior, the Fon practices gained the upper hand. But in Voodoo there are various nations for the Various groups- and one of those nations being Nago Nation/House representing the Yoruba elements of Voodoo and Haiti.
It ia from this nation that the nost Virile, energetic and virulent god of the Voodoo pantheon (Ogun) comes from.

But on Boukman’s origins he was most likely muslim African although his actual origins remain obscure.

Jamaican sources describe him as an Obeah man rather than a Voodoo man because that is the prevailing parlance for derived African religious practices there.
If Cubans spoke English, he might have well been describes by them as an ocha or orisha man. while authors from another island may have called him a Winti man, Etc etc.

Anyways, you and I can both agree that the directions those earlier elements in this thread were driving the entire discussion towards, is nothing short of a sneaky attempt as misappropriting achievemenrs.

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NwaAmaikpe:



May the good Lord in his infinite mercy accept their cleansing and write their names in the book of life.
Amen.


Every community needs an Eze John The Baptist.

Kikikiki

Lool these are rhe same people who nock Yorubas for practising their Osun Osogbo festival.

Igbos are the worst set of Hypocrites one can ever find in this country called Nigeria.

They critisize and mock things they don’t have but which others do, and boast to the high heavens about things they have which others don’t.

Lool these are the same people who mock Yorubas for practicing their Osun Osogbo festival.

Igbos are the worst set of Hypocrites one can ever find in this country called Nigeria.

Wulfruna:
I just read where you said Dutty Boukman was Yoruba. Is that a fact? I didn't know anything was known about his origins besides that he was probably a Muslim, and he had come from Jamaica to Haiti.

A lot of Yoruba slaves were Muslim.
I think he was called Book-man presumable because of the Quran the other slaves always saw with hin.

I am not 100% sure he was a Yoruba. But I have seen certain sources saying he was.
Which other African slaves had both elements of Islam and the so called “Voodoo” In the form of Yoruba religious practices if not Yorubas

Wulfruna:
Even though Toussaint became the face of the Haitian Revolution, the revolution was already underway before he joined in.

You are right.
Indeed he became the face of the revolution, buy a lot more African revolutionaries were involved.

As a matter of fact I plan to create a thread about the Yoruba origins of the Haitian revolution very soon.

devindevin2000:
Typical Afonja, just dumb and cannot reason whenever Igbo is mentioned in limelight, it angers him, he goes online, find whatever he can find and posts it. Dumb thing! Toussaint Louverture and Jean Jacques Dessalines led the Haitan revolution. Both got their inspiration from Igbo landing, where the Igbos revolted against their slave masters. This happened 17 century and the Haitian revolution happened in 18 century. Watch the video and listened to what they said. Stop hating on Igbos...they are also trying to free you dumb slave!

Typical flattie. All Ego and Zero brains.
I am not even here because I give a chit about Ibo abi na Igbo, but rather to bust your propagandas and various overt lies that has become an habit of you lots all over this forum and elsewhere.

You know nothing about the Haitian revolution and just automatically assume that the slaves of Haiti got inspiration for a revolution which happened in 1791 from a so called Ibo landing (Which wasn’t even a revolution, but rather a mass suicide) that happened in 1803.

If every African boasted in vain as much as the average Ibo man does, then Nobody will ever take a word from the mouth of an African as truth again ever!.

You better go read about the Yoruba various led slave revolts of the Americas such as Alabi the leader of Maroon revolutionists in Suriname, the Male Yoruba revolts of Brazil and Carlotta the Yoruba female rebel leader in Cuba amongst others, to know what real revokution looks like, rather that celebrating a mass slave suicide that was based on ignorant beliefs here.

I doubt you are even aware that some of the people who orchestrated this same Haitian revolution we are discussing right now were Yorubas. YES, you heard that right.

The Haitian Revolution was the first incidence of mass emancipation in a colonial society and the only slave revolt that resulted in the formation of a modern state. It has even been widely assumed that the Haitian Revolution was intellectually inspired by Western cultural values. Indeed, the Yoruba slave, Dutty Boukman, who ignited the revolution has been reduced to a mere footnote in the body of the prevailing Western-biased Haitian hegemonic historiography. This paper argues that the revolution, which was historically rooted in a legendary Yoruba tradition that abhors injustice, corruption and oppression, represents the very best of Yoruba’s cultural attainment in the Diaspora.

The study further ‘resurrects’ the monumental contributions of Dutty Bookman to the outbreak of the revolution and underscores the fact that the Yoruba god of Ogun was the most portent rallying force that drove the revolution. Thus, the paper situates the cultural roots of the Haitian Revolution in its proper historical perspective and

https://eprints.soas.ac.uk/5684/2/TheHaitianRevolution1791-1805.pdf


Do you think you are communicating with a naive idio.t here?

Shioor.

François-Dominique Toussaint Louverture A Benin republic prince of Allada Dahomean descent led and organized the Haitian revolution after everyone involved engaged in a Voodoo blood pact at the ceremony of Bos Caiman.

Some people should stop trying to appropriate the Hairian revolution which was a joint rejection by all slaves of African desxent on that Island against oppression and slavery.

Haolou in 1794 and more explicitly, Lamour Derance’s forces in 1802 were ‘grouped by tribes ... bands of Congoes, Aradas, Ibos, Nagos (Yorubas), Mandingos and Hausas [emphasis added]’. Consideration of the African ideological background to the Haitian revolution should therefore arguably seek .....

Amazingly enough, three major ethnic groups of contemporary Nigeria all had revolutionary guards.

François-Dominique Toussaint Louverture A Benin republic prince of Allada Dahomean descent led and organized the Haitian revolution after everyone involved engaged in a Voodoo blood pact at the ceremony of Bos Caiman.

Some people should stop trying to appropriate the Haitian revolution which was a joint rejection by all slaves of African desxent on that Island against oppression and slavery, just to massge their Igbotic egos.

Is Eze Eri the King of Igbos?

Internet data to stream videos on X- ideos.com

Btw: the owners of all the Nigerian betting sites like Bet9ja and co must be stinkingly rich ehh!

Niice one

Ndndndndn

Fulfulde is the lingua Franca of Parts of Taraba

I can understand how the one north and Hausanaization policy has grafually made sure that other languages become relegated in the north.

From 1914 up to the 80’s Fulfulde used to be kinda official and encouraged in the NE by the british colonialists to be the prestige Language, just like Hausa in the rest of the North.
Not any more though. Especially after Independence.

Gombe for example has changed gradually over the years from predominantly Fulfulde Speaking to more Hausa.

Just a look at neighboring cameroon, Nigerian refugees fleeing boko haram can’t even communicate with the locals there who all speak Fulfulde, while they (Nigerians) only know Hausa.

And both areas are literally beside one another.
National borders are powerful social forces indeed.

treasuredude007:
Ardo is very different from Sarki I guess

Ardos are the traditional Fulani clan Heads and district chiefs, which is what the man being turbaned in Oke Ogun should be, while Lamidos are Fulani Kings i.e Lamido of Yola.

Sarkin is more like an Hausa infusion (Nigerian factor)

When did people who are supposed to be Ardos now start bearing Sarkin Fulani title?

And you know that how?

Ayamelum and Anambra West are both like that.

Those parts of the state are completely neglected. Dunno why.

Awon monitoring spirit

Ha, see how Kwara and Kogi are conspiciously Absent even though they are also in the so called “North”

I smell fish!

lilytender:
Isoko Christians love stupidity.

Believe that guy is Isoko at your own peril

Lol

deomelo:
Because they all have the same hate, bitterness, anger and bitterness thing in common.

It's all about the societal and communal traits they were raised with.

Besides, the list is an ordinal scale because it is only listed numerically with no attached values, no idea of what the gap between each element in the list is.
The difference between the last state there and the number 12 state might be less than 10 million naira difference in budget deficits of both.

Yet, such crassness allows people from state number 12 to come here and masturbate like they are any better.

Rabbish.

deomelo:
That's ignorant and unintelligent ipobs for you..

Their logic is always upside down and illiterate logic..

And then all of them will come and like the mumu post of their fellow muumus

Makes me wonder how people with origins east of the Niger river reason.
Something presents 36 states of which we all know very well the general living conditions of each of them . Instead of people to engage in some critical thinking of why some obviously poorer ones are listed before some obviously richer ones- all they could do is concentrate on Yoruba states.

Is that how much inferiority complex these people have towards Yoruba people? Lol

devindevin2000:
When I talk about Afonjas, people attack me and think I'm being tribalistic...no, I'm not. I know these people very well because I grew up in SW and speak fluent yorubaa. These people are worst than Northerners....take it from me and I'm not exaggerating. They hide under one Nigeria, using bogus statistics to deceive you they are doing well. Have you noticed that when government agencies' supported statistics are released, they are always behind? Because these free from their propaganda. But ironically when private agencies release stats, mostly own by yorubas agencies, they rate themselves high, deceiving you they are doing well. I'm not surprised that Ekiti, Osun and Oyo are last, an indication they are worst than northerners. The only reason Lagos is at the top is because it's occupied and built by non yorubaas. And also the only reason Ogun is there is because it's close to Lagos; kind of like how Asaba is close to Onitsha.

So according to the list that means Yobe state is Better than Imo state na, while Kano has a better standard of living than anambra. Abi?

Many infants on this NL who jump on topics without having any knowledge of what thay are commenting about.

Illiterates everywhere claiming to have sense.

Badagry da?

Xbee007:
The truth is the other lion could be female. Don't let its mane fool you. Some female lions have been discovered to have mane.

https://voices.nationalgeographic.org/2012/10/09/weird-wild-rare-maned-lionesses-explained/

And why do those Female lions grow manes in the first place?

Isn’t that Abnormal as well?

Why are they “crushing” ? ?

Why in Okeluse?

Watching in 3D

Uyi168:
Virgin mary ko,olosho maheeda nii

Hahahhahahaa !!