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Deadlytruth:
You see, your problem is that you are not open minded to learn about details and nuances of issues. The Ibillo people have for long come to the conclusion that the "Oni" tag in the "Onibillo" title has no meaning in their own Okpameri Language and therefore is a source of identity crisis for them just like the Akoko tag is for the entire Akoko-Edo. Consequently they were just about to start sitting over changing it to a truly Okpameri title when the present King John Sule and the Son of the immediate past king began to have issues about the seat and took each other to court.
The Head of the Ibillo Unity Forum - Mr. H.T. Damisa will be convening a meeting on the 30th of this December, i.e. day after tomorrow for the different Ibillo clans to resume talks on the casting off of the "Oni" tag and replacing it with possibly the actual Okpameri word for king. If you doubt this you can make a trip to Ibillo on that 30th i.e. this Saturday and I will make sure you are allowed into the meeting to see and hear things for yourself. If you are really interested you can inbox me so that I tell you how you can locate me when you arrive Ibillo. However much you think you know a people, when a native however speaks you listen and learn as you can never know him more than himself.

How about ayanran the king is also known as Alayanran of Ayanran.
The issue here is that you lied that Ososo and Okpe were the only towns that had the -Oni and -Olo prefix for their rulers in the whole of Akoko Edo.
If I didn’t know better I wouldn’t have been able to cite you this Ibillo example (of which you are now talking something else)

Mind you, the Oba of Lampese is also called the Onilampese (Oba J.B Balogun). Want more examples?

You also categorically said those honorific terms had nothing to do with Yorubas but you are now saying that some Okpameris of Ibillo want it removed because it had Yoruba Origin. Confused much?

You even mentioned earlier that Akoko Edo has now been ridden of all Yoruba influences wbich is another OBVIOUS LIE from you. Since I still HEARD a Yoruba language commercial from OSOSO, YESTERDAY.

Then the funniest one about Akoko Edo not having Yotuba names anymore when newborn children are still sporting those beautiful names in Imoga, Somorika, Ugboshi E.tc. Face reality, Mr.
To the average Akoko Edo man, a Yoruba names has much more meaning and sentimental attachment than Benin names which they don’t even have knowledge of their meanings. Although I won’t deny the fact that some of them are taking some actions to look “politically correct” in their Edo state environment.

It is very obvious what you are trying to do- aspiring to be some kind of anti Yoruba ethnic purist or something- Yet you accuse Yorubas of being intolerant of other languages- lol.

It is equally funnier that you seem not to have any problems with the kingship title OTARU which is used in places like Igarra, Auchi etc and emmanates from the NUPES- but take some kind of aversion to the one of Yoruba origin. You got issues bro.

These are members from the Akoko Edo traditional council of Obas, and that sure don’t look like Bini kingdom to me.

Go and fight with reality and stop wasting your time here on nairaland.

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historyworld031:
Fool, a court of law has already decided. So walk away, there is nothing here for you.
How many times do I have to tell you fools that Edo state is a subterritory of the Benin Kingdom. The people you are talking about are EDO.
The Edo language doesn't recognize any "bini", it only recognizes EDO.
Perharps you need to go and talk about your yoruba things and live the Edo alone.
I am wondering why you guys have nothing better to do than talk about us all day.

Edo state is a subterritory of Benin Kingdom, lol do you even know how silly you sound?

I guess you Benin people have better things to do, that is why you lot are on the Ilaje Yoruba thread in this same culture section, uninvited but constituting the nuisance that y'all are very well known for in the field of historical intellectual discourse.

Deadlytruth:
Stop your expansionist drive. They are not Yorubas. They don't speak Yoruba but Bini. How does the mere title of a king determine a people's tribe? Binis have substantially proven wrong the theory that they originated from Ife. If Yorubas themselves could claim that their progenitor dropped from the sky then which sensible person should believe whatever other account they give about themselves let alone others?
Yorubas can twist any foreign lands title to make it sound like it's origin is rooted in Yoruba Language. So who takes them seriously on the Elawure twist to Olu-Awure?
Didn't a fellow expansionist of yours just attempt to twist Olokpe to Ooni-Okpe? When did Yoruba start having 'kp' in their spelling system?

Yes, Edo State is complex, but an alien will definitely not understand it better than the native.

How many times do you want to hear it?
They speak yoruba there, not Benin.

Elawure is just a contraction of Olu Awure like is done in most African languages.
It is the same way all Edo peope with the surname Edigin are Yorubas who followed Oranmiyan to rule Benin and stayed behind. They were porters who helped cut and tie firewood for the travelling people “Adigi” in Yoruba. With time the word mutated

They are today settled in Use, Egor LGA whoch is where all new Obas of Benin get named.

I know All these because they had a community union in my alma mata university.

Rather than admit your lack of information about this area of Edo state, you are here forming Rambo mr Know it all.

Ultimately, your goal is to categorically deny the existence of any figment or fragment of Yoruba culture, people or traditions no matter how tiny, in the entire Edo State- even in the front of evidence.

Now who is the expansionist here?

Deadlytruth:
However, in the language spoken in Okpe, ownership is not denoted by either Oni or Olo. So your explanation does not cut it still. The King of Ososo is also called Olososo. Just like that of Okpe is called Olokpe. But Ososo and Okpe don't speak the same language, and neither language uses Oni or Olo to mean ownership.
The use of Olo by these two towns therefore does not connote any affinity with Yoruba semantics but just a convergence. In fact the other 54 settlements in Akoko-Edo don't use Olo as prefix for their monarchs.

This guy can evade truth ehhn! Lol

The ruler of Ibillo is also called the Onibillo is that also convergence?
Abi Ibilll isn’t in Akoko Edo again?

Lmaoo

historyworld031:
And you were there to witness it ?

And you were or what?

All I know is that there are two sides to the story, the Bini version of imperialistic fashion and the Ijaw version of subsistent existence on the land.

It is left for bystanders to decide. Not you as an Edo man or the Ijaws who live there.

Small time now, you will say the Usens, Silukos, Illushis and Ikakumos are also on Benin land because they are in Edo state.

Deadlytruth:
Unlike Yorubas, Binis are not claiming that those Ijaws are Binis. Binis are not in any way trying to tell Ijaws who they are. They know and acknowledge that Ijaws are Ijaws and not Binis. The issue in focus is that the Ijaws, much as they are not Binis, are however living on a Bini land. They have so far been able to adduce evidence to convince the courts which gave them victory. Yorubas on the other hand are claiming Edo lands and some of her people through online arguments. If you are sure of your claims then why not go to court as the Binis have done?

Ohh so the land is Benin land?
The Ijaws will TELL YOU otherwise

I guess it kinda depends on who is doing the talking, doesn’t it?

All I know is that the Ijaws have existed on those so called Benin lands for Centuries.

Deadlytruth:
Those are not Yoruba dialects. What you have there is just convergence of words. For example in Igarra there local are names like Ozioma, Eneze, Ubani, etc which also are borne by Igbos and have Igbo meanings, but it is mere convergence and does not establish any linguistic affinity between the two peoples.
When the usen people however speak the Yoruba person does not understand.

Stop being ignorant those places are Yoruba. lol
This isn’t simply about a convergence of tongues.
The title of the King in Usen is Olu Ogbe and Elawure (Olu Awure) and their oral history traces rightfully back to Ife- not Benin.

Edo state is more complex than just your little corner of it.

Deadlytruth:
Please stop saying what you don't know. If at all your assumption that Bini kingdom was limited to the present Edo South LGAs were to be regarded as the truth, then it would have also failed because there are actually 7 LGAs in Edo South and not 6 as you would want your readers to believe. They are
1. Oredo
2. Orhiomwon
3. Uselu
4. Ikpoba-Okah
5. Ovia NE
6. Ovia SW
7. Uhumwode.

Please your knowledge about Edo people is not detailed hence your false assumptions regarding the Kingdom and its people.

Nothing like Uselu LG maybe you meant Egor, which is basically a section of Benin itself.

Deadlytruth:
Thank you for taking your time to school him. He resides far away in Ife and from there he is saying who belongs to Edo and who doesn't, yet when Binis claim his Ife was first ruled by Ozoduwa a Benin prince he gets annoyed. How can an Ife man claim he knows Akoko-Edo more than the people themselves? There is no part of Akoko-Edo that Yorubas are indigenous to. 95℅ of the towns and villages are made up of Benin Migrants whose languages have over time diverged from one another due to differences in times of exodus from the Benin Kingdom. The remaining 5℅ are the Oshuku descendants there whose migrational origin is suspected to be entirely outside Nigeria.
The Akoko root in the name Akoko-Edo was purely for administrative identity and does not in any way connote any cultural or linguistic relationship with Yorubas.
If they are actually Yorubas then how come Yoruba chiefs in the Western Region Assembly pre-Midwest creation used to refer to them derogatorily as "kobokobo" by which they meant a strange people whose languages were incomprehensible?
Yorubas should leave Edo State alone please.
They accuse Kanu of dragging the SS into Biafra but are themselves guilty of dragging a non-Yoruba people into Oodua. This is shameful and hypocritical.

I guess as an edo person feeling more connection to Igbos or “Kogi people” kinda depends on the part of the state you or the supposed people in question come from.
You are actually very correct, because come to think about it, Edo is a multiethnic state comprising of extensionf of the various ethnic groups that surround it- including Yoruba, Ika (Igbo), Ijaw, Ebira, Igala, Itsekiri, even some Urhobo all having land stakes in the highly artificial “Edo state” - So yeeea- obviously different parts of Edo state feel more connections to certain entities than others.

Btw:Yorubas never called Akoko-Edo “Kobo-kobo”
Awolowo even wanted the Akoko -Edo and Itsekiri sections of the old Western region to remain.

Deadlytruth:
Thank you for taking your time to school him. He resides far away in Ife and from there he is saying who belongs to Edo and who doesn't, yet when Binis claim his Ife was first ruled by Ozoduwa a Benin prince he gets annoyed. How can an Ife man claim he knows Akoko-Edo more than the people themselves? There is no part of Akoko-Edo that Yorubas are indigenous to. 95℅ of the towns and villages are made up of Benin Migrants whose languages have over time diverged from one another due to differences in times of exodus from the Benin Kingdom. The remaining 5℅ are the Oshuku descendants there whose migrational origin is suspected to be entirely outside Nigeria.
The Akoko root in the name Akoko-Edo was purely for administrative identity and does not in any way connote any cultural or linguistic relationship with Yorubas.
If they are actually Yorubas then how come Yoruba chiefs in the Western Region Assembly pre-Midwest creation used to refer to them derogatorily as "kobokobo" by which they meant a strange people whose languages were incomprehensible?
Yorubas should leave Edo State alone please.
They accuse Kanu of dragging the SS into Biafra but are themselves guilty of dragging a non-Yoruba people into Oodua. This is shameful and hypocritical.

I guess as an edo person feeling more connection to Igbos or “Kogi people” kinda depends on the part of the state you or the supposed people in question come from.
You are actually very correct, because come to think about it, Edo is a multiethnic state comprising of extensionf of the various ethnic groups that surround it- including Yoruba, Ika (Igbo), Ijaw, Ebira, Igala, Itsekiri, even some Urhobo all having land stakes in the highly artificial “Edo state” - So yeeea- obviously different parts of Edo state feel more connections to certain entities than others.

Deadlytruth:
Please stop saying what you don't know. If at all your assumption that Bini kingdom was limited to the present Edo South LGAs were to be regarded as the truth, then it would have also failed because there are actually 7 LGAs in Edo South and not 6 as you would want your readers to believe. They are
1. Oredo
2. Orhiomwon
3. Uselu
4. Ikpoba-Okah
5. Ovia NE
6. Ovia SW
7. Uhumwode.

Please your knowledge about Edo people is not detailed hence your false assumptions regarding the Kingdom and its people.

Hahaha, Ijaw claims in Ovia SW is only the begining of Bini peoples’ problems.
lol

imhotep:
The official language of Nigeria is English, not Yoruba

Yoruba is a National language of Nigeria
What these ones up there are canvassing for sinpmy can’t happen - forget all this NL mumuness happening.

sultaan:
Everybody is welcomed in the southwest as long as they are willing to obey the law and become a contributing member of the society

This is the type of reply you get from people who don’t even read theead contents before typing.

Demanding that Yoruba language shouldn’t be lingua franca in the SW?

AREN’t these people simply asking for serious trouble?

Hhhh

OKorowanta:
Dem dey craze!
I ordered for one since the first week of January dis year,till date nothing as happened.
I even got words from my account officer dat in 3 months at most i shud get it.

And do you know how long it takes at other Banks before you start whinning?

malcom2x:
Google will do u more good. I'm no more in Cotonou

Exactly my point.
I just googled housing designs in cotonou, and I can’t see what exactly you were talking about.

9jakool:
Yeah, I could immediately tell based on the dialect, dance, attire, and instruments/music. Ekiti does not have Bini like melody. Relationship with Bini isn't as strong in Ekiti as it is in Ondo. Bini's encroachment into Ekiti is only limited to certain ares in Ekiti. Ekiti towns like Otun, Ido, Iye, Efon-Alaye, Iloro, Okemesi, Oye, Ikole, and Omuo didn't have much to do with Bini.

I don’t know if it is the so called “Benin melody”
Buy Ekiti music actually shares that exact type of rhythm

On the other end of the spectrum are the Oyos with their heavy talking drums, bata and stuff.

GT Bank.

Exactly what you need, and very efficient.

malcom2x:
By flat roof do you mean roof top? I've always preferred rooftop cuz of the large space for lounging and laundry line. I like Cotonou architectural designs. Each house stands out unique from another. I don't know why we don't really see that in Nigeria.

Can you show us some examples of these cotonou architectural designs?

Feasible in the far north with low rainfall, but a disaster in the southern and central parts of Nigeria that get Heavy rainfall and must use some type of Gable roofing.

Besides why would anyone want to roof a proper house with Flat roofing?
Na warehouse you dey build abi residential building?
If you want to build , make sure you invest your best into your personal space and build properly, pricing not withstanding.

Jarus:
We Yoruba Muslims, especially from Kwara/Osun/Oyo, also don't joke with traveling home during sallah period. Ours just don't get this publicity.

In my 35 years of living, I have never celebrated big sallah (ileya) outside of my hometown except the year I traveled for hajj (which is same period).

“We Yoruba Muslims”
lol

The “Developers”
The “Claimers”
The “Chest Beating silverback Gorillas”

Potor Boys Claimers’ Association

PBCA

Ndaaru yesso gujjo e yimbe makko.

MasterKim:
True talk. Nobody dares with d Igbo race. Igbo amaka.
Mark go hear am.
Until he tenders apology to igbos, dz is just d beginning

Mark Nsukkaberg will know that his own Jewish Lineage is Fake and that Igbos are the real jews.

Mark and Afonjas think we are playing and joking around.

Okoyeeboz:
Igbos were reputed to be intelligent people but the past few years have displayed their true IQ level.

When you consider the sort of nonsense spewed by the Ohaneze, you'll agree that wisdom is not synonymous with old age. The Ohaneze is the largest group of foolish old men anywhere.

I really pity the Igbos for the crisis of truth and intelligence that has befallen them.

Hahhahahaa

Osucoward:
Yoruba States: Lagos | Ogun | Ondo | Oyo | Osun | Sometimes Ekiti

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Omo, this is impressive.

Ok ? ? ?
Let’s fry Amala.

Laugh wan tear me for belle!

In terms of what?

Physical infrastructural development (Rivers)
or
Socio-Economic development (Edo)

freedomforall30:
The OP and most of the posters are afonjas...obsessed with South South. They are trying to use style to insult SS in the sense that despite their huge allocation, their states are not well developed. I've studied afonjas for years, lived among them, know their language, culture, so I know all their moves...like the guy above me; doing exactly as I explained. Very wicked people naturally!

lol igbo people always seeing ‘Afonja’ everywhere including their dreams, they blame Afonja for everything including their inability to inpregnate their wives.

It is not anyone’s fault that nobody is interested in the 5 landlocked -red mud villages of the Sad beast region.

Boss13:
Why is Deji trying to politicize a commercial transaction? Is APC a GTBank financial outlet? One thing I know about Gtbank is that it is an apolitical institution and little wonder they continue to win Bank of the year and it is the only Nigerian Bank listed on the London Stock Exchange. For your company to be listed on the London stock exchange, you and the company will undergo serious scrutiny.

If GTbank have over deducted interest payment from Innoson, they have to refund the money or state reasons why the deductions were made. On the other hand, Innoson must try to service its loan. This case will only get him into more financial issues. He needs the Banks to expand his business at the stage of his company and him having issues with Gtbank will put off other banks from lending to him in the future.

Nothing more to add.

Lalasticlala, mynd44