₦airaland Forum

9jakool:
The bolded is true.

Akọ ọne/Akukọ- olukọ (I understand ọne meaning person. ọne means person in many Yoruba dialects, even though the general Yoruba equivalence is eyan.)
ukọ enwu- ikọwe
unyi ukọche- ile-iwe (Ile-iwe in Yoruba means house of books. I'm assuming ukọchẹ is from ukọ and ichẹ, meaning education and work. "Ishẹ" in Yoruba means work and "ichẹ" is dialects.)

Oga just to correct you, The general yoruba term for person is NOT Eyan, it is Eni.
Eyan itself being a shortened form of the compound word Eniyan -containing ENI, and Eniyan means Human not person.

Yoruba Names like Eniola or Eniyi means person of wealth or Honor respectively.

ALSO

Schhol should more properly be Ile Eko not Ile iwe. Ile Iwe is literally a Library, while Ile Eko is school.

Wtf does fetishistic mean anyway?
So tell me are tribes only “fetish” when they involve more in traditional African religious practices?
Which tribe is not Fetish if that is the case?

Also, how can anyone be politically two-faced or unreliable?
There are no permanent friends in politics only Prevailing interests at any given time- And YORUBAS have no issues working with ANY tribe in Nigeria to realize their needs, unlike some insular tribes who are forever at odds with some percieved enemies.

We are flexible like that
Proudly OMOLUABI.

Coleslove:
Would I be right to rate all Okun/Kabba people the same if one messes up? I've crossed path with Kabba & Igala (in fact stayed in Isanlu, Anyigba & Egume) both parties weren't the best of my experience. So, what's your verdict? You both are terrible or good? One or few persons can't define an entire ethnic group

That guy is not from kabba
He is a silly Igbo trying to inpersonate Okuns.

Take him serious at your own risk.

Probz:
Anyone willing to elaborate for me? Are Akoko Ondo people actually Yoruba or just Yoruba-speaking?

You like Wahala

9jakool:
Yes, there are regional names. Some names are perculiar to Oyo, Ekiti, Ijebu, Okun, and Ondo. It's due to the dialect and culture of the region. In Ijebuland for example, Ojo is not a traditional male name, even though it's widely used elsewhere. Ijebus use "Aina," the feminine version of the name to denote both genders.

Modupe in Yoruba means "I am thankful." The Itsekiri's equivalence is Modokpe.

I think the Itsekiri version is more correct

There is nothing like “Mo dupe” , given that the actual breakdown of it is “Mo da Ope” I give Thanks.

Upon contraction, it should be Modope/Modokpe, not Modupe/Modukpe.

There are some Ijebu names that you will NEVER see anywhere else

Names like Ogunnaike, Ogunnoiki, Demuren, Fanaike, Fanoiki, Runsewe

Et cettera•

9jakool:
Majority of the words are similar to Yoruba.

It looks like heavily modified or very archaic (ancient) Yoruba.

1) I noticed keenly that they have evolved to replace nasal vowel (Añ, Eñ, Iñ, Oñ, Uñ Etc) endings in Yoruba with their oral vowel equivalents.
Because Yoruba has 7 oral and 7 nasal vowels... but seems Igala has only oral ones.

* And also some consonant mutation in Igala , i.e R to L, and L to N

Jeun (eat) - Jenwu
Orun (neck) - Olu
Igbin (snail) - Igbi
Kekere (small) - Kekele
Irawo (star) - Ilawo
Ohun (thing) - Enwu
Erin (four)- Ele
Arun (five) - Alu
Orun (sun) - Olu
Olu (lord) - Onu
Egun (Ancestors) - Egwu
Ra (buy) - La
Erira (Ants) - Elila
Ri (See) - Li
Ro (Cultivate) - (Lo)
Eyin (tooth) - Enyi

Also it seems like there is no “Sh” sound in Igala and all they have is CH... but maybe that is just a dialect/standardization thing .. I think many actually do have "sh" sound.

Sheyi (Yoruba) - Cheyi (Igala)

2) Then like the the South East Yoruba dialects , they have GW and KW, but have no GH.

Ewa (beans) - Egwa
Ku (die) - Kwu
Gun (pound) - Gwu
Ekun - Ekwu
Oogun (sweat) - Uugwu
Egungun (bone) - Ogwugwu
Igunnu (vulture) - Ugwunu

Combining 1 and 2

Oluku - Onukwu

With this, I would give a Yoruba - give or take 6 months to master this language under complete exposure like going to live in Idah or Dekina.

Igala looks like a type of Yoruba that is trying hard to play Hide and Seek with Yoruba people

nengibo:
The fulani emir of Kwara isnt a god to an Ijaw man, he is god to every body in kwara state

If he can take your oil and nothing happens then he can do more than what “god” can do in Ijawcreeks.

I don’t want to say “Ijawland” , cause Ijaws historically are lazy swamp rats that have no history.

Purposeless things crowning historyless entities as “kings” in 2017.

nengibo:
Have you bow down to your god today

The same gods taking all your oil and leaving you people a usess tribe of poor wretched churchrats and a youth population of pipeline bunkerers, cultists and criminals.



That man whose poc you just posted gets his monthly royal pay from probably Bayelsa oil loool
Who is the slave here?

nengibo:
EGBERI, the FULANI EMIR IS THE KING OF KWARA AND EVERY BODY IN KWARA IS UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP , fulani people should be careful with these their omoniapu(slaves)

“King of Kwara”

Okay Felicia.

nengibo:
There is no Yoruba in the north they are all settlers in hausa-fulani land, if in doubt ask the FULANI EMIR IN ILORIN

lol I give up on you breh.
Amir is a religious title of the Muslim faithfuls of Ilorin.
There are also Four Baloguns in Ilorin who are his major chiefs.

All Apois and 60% of Arogbos can’t even speak a word of Ijaw and are only such by name alone. All they know is Yoruba.

You know nothing, even though you claim to know.

nengibo:
No yoruba in the north full stop. Is Hausa not the language of the north or is it yoruba

lol go and speak Hausa in Kwara and Kogi na...
lol your knowledge of geography is just 25%

All you know is North this Ijaw that.
Was Igbo not the major language in the Eastern region that you Eastern ijaws were UNDER until the civil war that liberated you folks that now makes you folks stup.id enough to be staking claims in far flung places?

That is what happens when people speak of places they’ve never been to nor know nothing about.

“Calabar” is now a tribe name in Nigeria

Since we have stopped teaching kids Nigerian history and geography in schools.

nengibo:
Many Yoruba people have been assimilated to Ijaw, just like Tonye cole and his family, a popular example

Lol a Yoruba business mogul who is using the name Tonye because of the benefits he stands to gain from doing so.
His mother might even be Ijaw, who knows.

Besides, what is the proportion of people like him to Ijaws who have become Yorubas?
Like 1 ratio 100,000?

nengibo:
There are no yorubas in the north, capiche, its all hausa-fulani land full stop, anyother person is a settler

Dude your comparison holds no water.
Ijaw community that claims to be aboriginal just decided that they should have a ruler in 2017... lol does that make sense? From the time of antiquity till NOW, what have they been doing?

All the Yoruba communities of Kwara and Kogi states are recognized and gazetted nationally, and they all have royal stools dating back into time immemorial.

And yea like diadem wrote earlier, the Apois in Ondo state have assimilated into Yoruba completely. There is no Apoi without Ikale or Ilaje relatives in their family line. As old as the Apois are in Ondo state they still eventually assimilated into Yoruba culture BECAUSE THAT IS THE MAJORITY CULTURE THEY MET ON GROUND. Nobody forced them to become Yoruba and start speaking their own brand of the Yoruba language called Apoi. Go to their royal palaces to confirm. They are proud Yoruba, and we all live harmoniously in Ondo state.

Arogbos are much more Ijo because they came much later after the Apois and have been settled in the Ondo area for a much lesser period of time, added with the fact of continuous migration from the central Niger Delta Ijaw homelands into the west, and it is no surprise why they are still like that .... Not like Yoruba even want them as one of them sef.

nengibo:
The same way ilorin and kogi has been assimilated, there are no Yorubas dere

Assimmilated into what?

Dude stop talking about what you have no ideas about, just because you think you can find a comparable example among Yorubas.
Yorubas don’t assimmilate into other things.

nengibo:
No mind dem, bini nane community truly truly, what a Uselesss joke

So what is its meaning in Ijaw then?

okunede:
Kingdom kingdom kingdom, how many ? You are in Edo state, those kingdoms doesn't exist unless recognized by the state government act. Illegal activities in Edo state is not possible.

I was about to say the same thing.

These Ijaws now springing up Kingdoms everywhere like mushrooms.
Made up joinjoin-patchpatch kingdoms starting in 2017

I saw one named PLANGDEP and was like

Decryptor:
Hydraulickers can never afford such luxury!

You brain must be surely be the only hydraulic thing around here.

bigfrancis21:
Maybe you should know that among the Haitians, Ibo left great impression in their minds, language, culture, idioms etc. In fact, 'ibo' is a synonym for 'greatness'. In Haiti, anything great or enormous is labeled 'Ibo, such that their largest radio station is named 'radio ibo'. The people themselves have tales oof an Igbo-inspired revolution and independence

Aren’t we talking about the Haitian revolution anymore?
All nations in Haiti have their own fables of greatness. I can post several examples.

But trying to attribute the single most important revolution in the Western Hemisphere by many measures to one particular group, especially with no backing concrete evidence as being done here, is nothing short of a cock and bull attempt, as well as Intellectual Dishonesty.

There is a difference between saying a West African tribe called the Ibos contributed towards the success of the Haitian revolution, and saying A very powerful African tribe called the Ibos that resisted slavery are the ones responsible for the revolution and its success.

Even you, despite all your faults can spot the differnce. (I believe you can sha)

I am not downplaying the importance of the Igbo nation to Haitian history. Quite the contrary.

bigfrancis21:
Dude, forget it. It has been established in the academic world already that a higher number of Igbo slaves were sent overall (1.4m), compared to Yoruba slaves (circa 500,000), and that Yoruba slave trade peaked in the 1800s, about 100 to 150 years after Igbo slaves had been sold considerably. That is why I am not surprised when I see articles like this about many African American DNA testings turning out to be Igbo. Plenty of them. In terms of DNA, it is expected that more afro-descended peoples would carry more partial or full Igbo DNA than Yoruba, whereas in terms of African religion, the Yoruba one is the most popular in the new world and we would expect more adherents of Ifa compared to Obeah. Also, gone are those days of the early 2000s when writers were quick to assume any black person practising Ifa to be of Yoruba origin, which tended to erroneously exaggerate the number of Yoruba slaves exported to the new world. Nowadays, with DNA testing and more enlightenment, it is now a common thought (or common sense I would say), that Ifa is only a religion encompassing several members descended from different tribes in West Africa, and that not all Ifa followers are of Yoruba ancestry, thus it would be wrong to assume so. That is one could be mostly of Kongo descent while practising Ifa, just as Roman Catholics of Nigeria are not descended from Rome but practice the Roman Catholic faith.

Moreover this is not a fight nro comparison. Of course you do care about Igbo affairs and that is why you are always quick to rush into any Igbo-focused thread like this to 'stylishly' insert some Yoruba mention or whatnot. Dude, quit that child's play. Igbo is Igbo and Yoruba is Yoruba and each tribes in the new world is known for different things. Just last week I met an African American answering Nnamdi as his name, given to him from birth by his African American parents and, to my surprise, the dude even knows what the name means and a few Igbo words.

I saw this thread earlier and passed. I am only here to trash your false ideologies and unnecessary display of exuberance.

As if Scholes0 is not being Scholes0.

Can you just prove the premise of this thread or stop talking about irrelivancies?

And most especially

Avery powerful people" that resisted slavery. Igbo resistance inspired Haiti to lead the first ever slave revolt in the western hemisphere defeating armies of French, Spaniard and American.

Each colony in the new world have a unique mix of factors that determined the provailing culture on each and every one of them.

bigfrancis21:
Dude, forget it. It has been established in the academic world already that a higher number of Igbo slaves were sent overall (1.4m), compared to Yoruba slaves (circa 500,000), and that Yoruba slave trade peaked in the 1800s, about 100 to 150 years after Igbo slaves had been sold considerably. That is why I am not surprised when I see articles like this about many African American DNA testings turning out to be Igbo. Plenty of them. In terms of DNA, it is expected that more afro-descended peoples would carry more partial or full Igbo DNA than Yoruba, whereas in terms of African religion, the Yoruba one is the most popular in the new world and we would expect more adherents of Ifa compared to Obeah. Also, gone are those days of the early 2000s when writers were quick to assume any black person practising Ifa to be of Yoruba origin, which tended to erroneously exaggerate the number of Yoruba slaves exported to the new world. Nowadays, with DNA testing and more enlightenment, it is now a common thought (or common sense I would say), that Ifa is only a religion encompassing several members descended from different tribes in West Africa, and that not all Ifa followers are of Yoruba ancestry, thus it would be wrong to assume so. That is one could be mostly of Kongo descent while practising Ifa, just as Roman Catholics of Nigeria are not descended from Rome but practice the Roman Catholic faith.

Moreover this is not a fight nro comparison. Of course you do care about Igbo affairs and that is why you are always quick to rush into any Igbo-focused thread like this to 'stylishly' insert some Yoruba mention or whatnot. Dude, quit that child's play. Igbo is Igbo and Yoruba is Yoruba and each tribes in the new world is known for different things. Just last week I met an African American answering Nnamdi as his name, given to him from birth by his African American parents and, to my surprise, the dude even knows what the name means and a few Igbo words.

I saw this thread earlier and passed. I am only here to trash your false ideologies and unnecessary display of exuberance.

As if Scholes0 is not being Scholes0.

Can you just prove the premise of this thread or stop talking about irrelivancies?
Each colony in the new world have a unique mix of factors that determined the provailing culture on each and every one of them.

devindevin2000:
Now you are asking Francis? Foolish envious thing. The research is all online to merit that Igbo inspired them. Your envy for Igbos will kill you Afonja...envious things!

Lol this idio.t is still following me about in his fake thread, even from the other thread?

You get job so?

[quote author=Decryptor post=62294170][/quote]Hahah mumu, funnily Enough both building on the right of that picture are Houses owned by Yoruba people.

bigfrancis21:
Dude that article was written by a Haitian himself, not by some imaginary Yoruba writer looking to spread his tentacles beyond his boundaries.

By the way, you haven't provide the sources that i asked you for. Does that mean that you concede that Boukman was not a Yoruba man and so-called Olukoya Gen was lying?

Damn. You can't trust these half-baked African writers.

Maybe you are not following the discussion, but that was already done and dusted.
No one is sure what Boukman’s origins are. Yoruba or otherwise. He could even be Central African.

The entire thread on the other hand is one huge Fard (As usual) the real tentacle spreading attempt. Lmao.

bigfrancis21:
Sure, you know me boy. Imma come in here and trash your falsities.

Lol the very falsity of the thread being already trashed in the first place.
I care about nothing else.

Mr Pseudo-intellectual.

@Bigfrancis21, concerning the post you referred me to, what percentage of Haitians were Igbos and what percenrage of the revolution leaders were Igbo?
Also, what is the proof that the revolution was anymore inspired by the suicidal Igbo Ideology than it was by the ideology of the Warlike Fons or Kongo (as described by the colonialists) people or any other African group(s) present on thae Island for that matter?

Some have even linked the Haitian revolution to the Mbangala warrior culture of central Africa.
All conjectures. Nothing concrete enough to appropriate the Haitian revolution or Democracy to any particular group of Africans.

period.