₦airaland Forum

AirborneLacer:
Lmao!

I trust standd.

Una don do introduction?

standd:
Just save the bottle of wine for me jor....

Hahahahaha @Facebook pages stealing my work. You can know how to whine someone's head sha.

Lol. Its what I know you can do, especially after you decide to take it out of that comfortable thought zone you placed it in your head all this while.

Nihilist:
E don turn 3 way contest.

Airbornelacer you see your life? Them don wan thief your wife

This will be you in less than 24 hours. Friend zone loading faster than an agbero at mile 12

Ahh, common! Guy!!

This was them.in 2012!!!

This is 2015, they sleeping together no more

Its worse than friend zone bruv, bit who will tell him the sad truth now

I know I wont

standd:
Lol my drunk friend

Drunk? let's just say I've had my fill

Honestly, alcohol never sat well with me, I dread the repercussions I'm going to get this night.

But enough about you pretending to care...

How are you? Still banking? Or you're presently consulting Linda on tips on detecting Facebook pages stealing your works

standd:

How's work

Forgive my oyinbo, I'm still a little dazed. I opened another bottle this evening

standd:
*punches his head *
You can now come back to earth...
Awayu?

Hmmm, foreign stuff is good o!

*in my best Igbo voice *
Baby forget about all this local content
Go continental!!

Wait Standd, that your punch was a little too hard o

You don't want me to reciprocate o

You know I'd go for the softest target

I decided to drink a bottle of sweet wine I smuggled from the burial I went to recently.

30mins later, well, let's just say I had a feel.of heaven

That's all I have to say

Boss13:
He is greater than awolowo - my own opnion. In him lies the relevance of the yoruba race politically. The great strategist, a visionary, a wise one and foremost - a political godfather

I don't like him but I strongly admire and respect him. His actions forces you to respect him.

This sweet victory was made possible because of him

Politically, he is greater than awolowo; but in acceptance and economic achievement, he's not.

The jury is still out on intelligence comparism.

sunnyshayne:
Mighty eagle

New mascarat

Andrew the giant

Rody Rody piper

Mighty Igor

Mill mascaras

Andre the giant

Roddy piper.

Meanwhile there were also:

Brutus ( the barber) beefcake.

Eric the red

Superfly sanuka

Those were the days when wrestling was believable.

airmark:
Have they opened this centre to the public?
delpee
django1
MsNas
semitunde

Yep. I went there with family at Christmas. Gate fee was N500. Its not fully finished yet though. Has a phase 2 part still to be developed.

Mynd44:
Sorry I am late

Working my jaw...

Will join you soon.

I always thought radio Biafra is good for venting anyways.

If true, the Yoruba guy shouldnt have called. Maybe he listened and got annoyed by the discussion and decided to rile them back.

Many Igbo who shout 20$ don't even know the whole story. But are ready for a physical or oral battle over it.

bigfrancis21:
Now, back to serious business. I don't quote from any chikolobi website. I quote from well-verified sites, as you can see from a couple of my posts back. In fact, which one have you quoted, o ye almighty all-knowing one? Oh I forgot, Ojukoro the Ilaje Yoruba boy who has never left south west all his entire life suddenly knows everything and carries everything in his head. I see you.

Wait o, that name sounds familiar in Igbo. Ojuokoro (o ju o koro = if it gets full, it gets stuck in Igbo), another Igbo name corrupted in Yoruba.

You quite annoyed me in your other post. This is more friendly and I will follow suit. I will also withdraw the caustic comment if you do yours. I'm not here to make enemies, it doesn't bring food to my table.

Back to your new accusation. Do you know the number of States I've been to by virtue of my work? I was tell the story of the igbo boy in Benue and some other Hausa guys in the north ( Bornu state actually), you think they are jokes or lies? No ore, that also doesn't also put food on my table. I've probably been to many note states than you have ever ventured going. Travelling is education and enlightenment. You aren't chating with someone seated in his state bro.

About verified or verifiable sources that you said you quote from. When did wikipedia become one if such? Yet you have quoted Wikipedia as if I cant create one and modify as I like.

Finally, I'm sold on the fact that you actually are the one the one that hasn't gone out of your domain. You may be educated, but not exposed, and I mean this not as an insult, many people are not exposed too.

Unless you are joking, you won't say I must be dark skinned since I'm Yoruba. You have allowed yourself to believe your own lies that most Igbo are light skin. Bunkum. Many Igbo are as dark or even darker than the Congolese. But then again what is in colour of skin that it becomes a status symbol? If Ojukwu had bleached would you have accepted him more?

Can you please tell me which states you have been to?

bigfrancis21:
@bold...You've clearly edited your post to remove that part of your comment.

Morning ore.

That you can make the above claim is really unfortunate.

You must really be sniffing something. If you have made a mistake admit it and don't try to be smart by half impugning other peoples character.

For the avoidance of doubt I never removed modified any of my posts with such devilish intent. The fact thatyou can see post history means you're a mod and this is very unfortunate. Seun cannot monitor everyone but maybe his supermods can. Check the history and if you don't find any of such modification, ban yourself cos you have broken rule 2,3 and 7.

However ore, I can accuse you of such duplicity, bile and cunningness. You are used to it. Its what you do often, modifying comments.

Let me remind you of when I noticed your moniker: You got a source that said something like "50 influencial Nigerians abroad". You came here, made a thread having "20 influencial Nigerians..." And you went ahead to post Igbo names numbering even more than 20. When you were called out for the fraud you argued that it was the way those names were arranged from the source site and you quickly changed the title back to the original 50 after another person started posting the Yoruba names from.the same site.

Pls point out where I modified and let's discuss it.

P.S. I type from my phone and I mostly don't have the time to edit before posting. But the excuse us mostly for grammatical errors.

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bigfrancis21:
@bol..on the contrary, early usage does matter. Because it indicates the originality of something. Now, 'oyibo' might be Igbo and 'oyinbo' THE yoruba pronunciation however the bone of contention lies in the originality of which, of which to establish the originality of something, as it always is in the world of academia, academic evidence of its early usage has to be furnished. Open up any Oxford or Cambridge dictionary and look up words, linguists try to trace the origin of a word going by the very first mention of the world in the particular period of time. So far I have done that for Igbo, you have utterly failed to do that for Yoruba.

Now, let us assume 'oyibo' is Igbo (which is recorded in wikipedia) and 'oyinbo' is Yoruba and both are correct. The existence of 'oyibo' in Igboland as at 17th century has been established. Any academic author will quickly establish that as fact. Now how can you prove the Yoruba had been using 'oyinbo' before 17th century? How is it not possible that the word spread to SW, through the Edo peoples? Almost every tribe in Nigeria except the SW calls it 'oyibo' which makes us to believe that they are pronouncing the word in its original form and 'oyinbo' being the corrupted form? Ok, please furnish evidence for the earliest usage of 'oyinbo' in Yoruba land.

Going by semitunde's ill-formed 'logic' that borrowed words 'become shorter', now let us take a look at these similar words and establish the parent origins:

Igbo: okwute (6 letters) Yoruba: okuta (5 letters)
Igbo: mmiri (5 letters) Yoruba: omi (3 letters)
Igbo: gbajie (6 letters) Yoruba: baje (4 letters)
Igbo: Ogwu (more complicated sounding) Yoruba: Ogun (less complicated pronunciation). We all know language subsets often have less complex wordings than the original. French, Spanish, Italian (subset languages) words compared to Latin (parent languge) words is a classic example.
Igbo: Egwugwu masquerde, Yoruba: egungun masquerade (notice another simplification of the Yoruba pronunciation).

Going by semitunde's logic, Yoruba derived from the Igbo. The linguistic evience is too easy to see.

DNA evidence of the Igbo Ukwu bronze metals proves their construction to about 10th century AD. Meaning the Igbo were already in existence on or before that time. According to Professor E.E. Okafor, the Dean of Archaeology at the University of Nigeria, new dating of samples of slag and bloom from ancient industrial furnaces in Lejja, Nsukka in Igbo land sent to UK for dating by the Archaeology Department at the University of Nigeria, Nsukka, recently returned with a shocking date of 4,000 B.C! However, Yorubas claim Ife civilization began at only 600BC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ife

Serious research is yet to be carried out on the ancient Igbo pyramids which might uncover a shocking early dynasty period of the Igbo people.

Maternal DNA evidence shows a common L1B maternal DNA ancestry between Igbo, and Egyptians.
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http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1872497311001268#sec0085

This evidence might prove the similarity in the Igbo pyramids and Step pyramids of Egypt (both cultures might have shared the similar ancestral mothers and women are the transmitters of culture), and another heavy evidence confirming the much earlier existence of the Igbo in their geographical area.

There is much more evidence I can furnish but can't due to time constraints.

What is the point of all these? Evidence of a very ancient history of the Igbo people.

Yoruba authors want to believe everybody and everything came from them, and also claiming the Binis too, even when the Bini monarchs have utterly rejected the false fairy tale and they've researched and published that the reverse - the Binis gave birth to the Yorubas, and their ancient territory extended to farwaway Lagos. Place names in lagos with bini-like names such as [b]Idu[/b]mota names prove this point. http://www.edo-nation.net/origin.htm

Pls Francis, wherever did my logic infer that Yoruba derived from Igbo and where in this online world did I mention that borrowed words become shorter, or anything in relation to that.

Pls point it out o. Cos its either I'm hallucinating or you're sniffing something. Lol.

You need to sleep.

bigfrancis21:
1) I think you're the one who thinks its a contest when there is no actual contest here and academic evidence proves the usage of Oyibo in Igboland to the 17th century, a period when Igbo had very little or no contact with the Yoruba of South West, and you have failed to establish any proof whatsoever but laying claims to something you can't prove. The Kingdom of Benin wedged in between SE and SS even further served to checkmate any direct contact between both groups.

2)

I think you have a reading comprehension problem. Here is my original post:


Why shouldn't I base my facts from google? Why shouldn' I cite works of well-researched authors and publishers? I should base my facts on you? I should ignore true academic researchers and authors and 'believe' your lies? Do you even have a PhD to start with? What do you know about research and academia?

3) You seriously have a reading comprehension problem. 'Ngwanu' is to 'Oya' in Yoruba and 'kwanu' is to 'nko'.

Your level of reasoning is baffling, I must admit.

Your posts have often bordered on insults bro. Just to be clear, nobody has monopoly of such. I will be very civil with you cos that's who I am, and well, its the course I read.

My reference to your Google bible as the reference for facts is what I was pointing at. People like you and me put those sites you cull from online. You don't know me for starters. I may put up an untrue statement that supports your motif and you will see it as a statement of fact why? Because you can Google it or because I decided to add "PhD" in front of my pseudo name?

Idowu Akinlotan is a constant columnist in The Nation newspapers. He's supposed to be a fiery sociologist and probably a lawyer, read up to PhD level. Do you know that Idowu Akinlotan is a made up name? He's pieces can be penned by Luis Odion for instance. I'm sure you're following my logic since you're the one without comprehension problems...and have the vainness of asking if I have a PhD. What next will you ask? If I'm light skinned?


Not saying every info from Google is not fact, but not everything there is fact either regardless of the name said to have put it there or even the level of education the said author is claiming. Wikipedia can be modified by almost anyone and I see you quoting voraciously from it.
As for the ngwanu/kwanu, I'm not Igbo as you can clearly see. I expected a civil explanation or rebuttal with an explanation of what kwanu/ngwanu are and how it/they are related to the word nko. And then challenge me to fault your explanation or atleast give mine. That's how to have online convo. Bro.

And yes, my level of reasoning is not up for debate here, thats if you truly understand the meaning of that statement.

Francis!

Don't lose your sleep tonight o.

segcymoor:
Water treatment plant

Hello Mr SEGUN.

Do you know or have anyone who fabricates steel for stanchions and steel framed structures?

bigfrancis21:
Lol. First of all, people lie. You're blatantly lying that it is very obvious. You have no proof whatsoever to prove what you're making up.

Second, even if it is distantly true, you are just generalizing. Just because one Igbo person thinks 'nko' is Igbo doesn't mean every Igbo does. We don't even use it In Igbo language, what we use is 'kwanu' (before kwanu). 'Before nko' is informal that is used in Pidgin. It is not even used in official Nigerian English in formal/official settings. No lecturer in class or ministers during official meetings will start blabbering away 'nko' in official Nigerian English. It is totally informal. Yoruba words adopted out end up in pidgin english, and in nothing else. For 'oya', we have 'ngwa', for 'jor', we have 'biko' which many nollywood fans beyond Nigeria know - thanks to Nollywood. Even my Haitian co-worker, a die-hard lover of Nigerian movies knows 'igwe', 'biko', and with their correct pronunciations. Observe, so-called 'influential' Yoruba words only end up in Pidgin English. When it comes to business, Igbos speak Igbo with their native words.

I noticed you're beginning to sound irritated. You began playing the game of claiming foreign words as yours and I was only playing along.

Back up a little.

You are turning this into a díck measuring contest. You won't win.

I wasn't generalising, I used the example to to teach on how many Igbo have confidently, though wrongfully bought into adapted languages as their own.

If you read my post well you'd have seen that I was explaining how parents can influence a younger generation with adapted words and the children going forward think those words are originally from the language.

People code mix everywhere, especially when they have the liberty of using another language that better communicates their thoughts. A lot of code mixing of Yoruba with English probably made you term those words as pidgin. Do you stay in the west? I'm beginning to think you dont, and it explains your leaning on several issues to which can be easily understandable to another Igbo person staying in the west. Especially one that has been well integrated into the society there.

Whether Yoruba words are more popular outside or not is left others to decide, I won't go there unless you want to drag that issue.

Finally, I've realised you base your "facts" so much on Google. What you may not have realised is that people pur those things there. Not all info from it is authentic. I laughed when you were replying ileke and you said you checked Google on the OSU subject and found nothing other than posts from Nairaland. Well bro, that googling. If you think the posts from Nairaland are not fact enough, what makes you think the other sites are?

You need to spend a year or two in places like osun and Ibadan to reorientate your mind.

P.S. ngwanu in my thinking is quite different and a little more restrictive compared to "nko".

bigfrancis21:
Lol. No Igbo person denies Olaudah's book. He is the first Nigerian to publish a book. There is a difference between being colonized by a people and being descended from a people. French, Portuguese, English peoples all colonized Africa but Africans are not descended from Europeans. Africans existed before the colonialists came. Same for Igbo clans that existed before they came under Benin's influence during its expansionist conquest.

Isseke, Olaudah's village is in Anambra state, which is next to the River Niger, across which you get into Asaba. It is possible that his village was under the authority of Benin's influence at the time of his capture. But his people were not Bini neither were they from Bini.

Let me not broaden the argument. But if you admit that Oluadah is the ancestor of Igbo and a subject to Benin, which has cultural and ancestral ties to Yoruba; it can be easily inferred that Igbo of ancient history had adapted the language of their lords ( being Bini and to an extent Yoruba).

I mean, even during Jesus's time. Hebrew, and Greek were used in communication even though those languages were those of their conquerors.

bigfrancis21:
I'm beginning to think yoruba's Obasanjo (O basa njo = he spreadeth evil), Abeokuta (ebe okwute = stony place), Obanikoro (Oba na ikoro = yam barn and musical gong) were borrowed from Igbo language.

Igbo raiding and terrorizing Ife since 14th century.

You are beginning to do what that Igbo boy i talked about also did.

He said: "can't you see nko sounds Igbo". And he repeatedly said the words to me for emphasis. When I asked for the meaning, he got confused.

To be fair , some Hausa guys I met also felt Naira is a Hausa word. Just like the Igbo, they wondered how I couldn't realise that it sounded like a Hausa word. Lol.

Ilekeh:
You as well. I'm beginning to think igbo's "Ola" was coined from Yoruba language.

It's all good. At the end of the day, our language must thrive through us and through others.

That history he quoted is the same one many Igbo deny because it is used as the bases for the claim that igbos came from the Benin/Yoruba axis.

When it suits their conversation, they quote, but when that quote raises another issue, they dump and deny that part of their history.

bigfrancis21:
Before 'nko' isn't even Igbo to start with but pidgin english. How is that Igbo? In Igbo, we say 'before kwanu'. 'kwanu' is the Igbo word used for 'emphasis'.

I can give you several examples of Yorubas claiming that 'ogbono', 'okro' etc are Yoruba because they grew up hearing those words as part of daily Yoruba lingo. Your sister IlekehIdi is a prime suspect of this who claimed in the past that those words were Yoruba, while fogetting 'ila', 'apon' etc. until she got lectured on those words.

OK I'm back.

Francis. 1st you are not Yoruba and you therefore can't say what is ours. You can only argue about what is in your language as yours. You admitted that nko isnt igbo but you believe its pidgin? "Pidgin ko, igbo ni!" ( thats another yoruba originated popular slang by the way)

2nd. You are part of the generation of adapted language that I'm talking about. The language you have grown up owning, has input from other languages brought in by your parents and other older ones you have interacted with, who themselves were influenced by the places they went to. Its normal for every language. The difference here is that while Yoruba for instance look at some words as probably Hausa originated, and seek to find out; some Igbo just feel that the language was copied by others.

As for accusing me of making up a story, look for Mr Onwubiko who is a surveyor and revert back.

You said igbos don't claim other languages when I just told you a real life occurrence about an igbo boy confidently telling me "nko" is Igbo and should be spelt "nkor"

Yoruba hardly claim okro and ogbona as part of Yoruba name. Okro and ogbona are "ila" and "apon" respectively.

bigfrancis21:
Mind you, ancient Edo (ruling class) were a royal people and despite aggregrating lands and communities and colonies, they hardly imposed their language on their colonies because they felt it was a royal language to be spoken by the royals only but let the colonized people speak their respective languages, thus limiting the bini language for use mostly in the royal palace of the bini king. The same attitude still exists today among the Edo people who would hardly want to teach you their language.

Not wanting ( or being interested ) to teach a language is quite different from not wanting to impose a language on others. I hope you know that...

Ilekeh:
Yoruba language has always been equally influential. Oyinbo is a Yoruba word.
You're making claims you can't prove, son.
Even with our close ties with Edo, We have not adopted their language.

Night. Gotta hustle tomorrow morning.

It's morning already

I once told a story of when I was in Benue state. Our surveyor was Igbo and had his son become his assistant on site. His son had not been anywhere outside the north and only knows Hausa and Igbo.

One day, as part of conversation, I said "this place nko?" And he asked where I learnt Igbo. He insisted that nko was Igbo ( now spelt nkor). I gave him a lecture and an assignment on the other words he uses.

He, just like most igbos of present generation, learnt spoken language from his parents who had been in the west and were code mixing Yoruba language with even Igbo while he was growing up.


As Igbo in the west pick up Yoruba words and get used to saying them as part of conversation, they pass this way of speaking to younger generation who then thinks all those words are part of their language and that the other tribes are probably the one borrowing theirs.

Many ibos of our parent generation had assimilated the language and culture of Yorubas up to the point that when in a conversation they slot in Yoruba words like " nko, abi, shebi, oya" etc into Igbo conversation and thier kids pick it up.

The entertainment sector doesn't help their cause, as most of the slangs used are Yoruba. Many of them doont know this, and start using them as part of their own language.

Where is the part 3&4?

Second pic, is that not Dr. Osasona?

Smh.

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Home Building: Navigating the rough waters



In order to have a smooth sail in the rough waters, it is imperative that you start with the end in mind. This means having a complete picture of what the end result will look like.

The architectural plans is one part out of the so many part of a house. You need to have a complete picture of the finished product.

Here are few things to consider before you begin the project:

1. The internal design scheme (e.g. the colours of walls, architraves, ceilings, lightings and cornices)

2. The external design scheme (e.g. the colours of roofing and walls, types of materials used for these e.g. stone-coated, step tiles, asbestos etc)

3. What style of house are you building? It isn't enough to say I want a duplex or bungalow.

4. What will your facade look like? Oh, I love this! Facade - in fact I keep a cut-out pic of the facade that I love on my fridge.

5. The orientation of the living areas -to take advantage of natural sunlight, cross-ventilation.

6. The uses of the outdoor areas - Entertainment or recreational purposes? I'm kinda confused when clients ask what can we do here?

7. The sort of landscaping you like.

8. Many other things as it appeals to you.

The more detailed your picture, the greater your satisfaction will be with the end result.

Happy Building!

Unfortunately most Nigerian clients aren't so sure of what they want until they see the building on ground.

MizMyColi:
Naah
Tinubu is in a class of his own.

Create Jobs?
During his tenure?
You mean the agberos that litter the streets.
Or the establishments he built which are ultimately for his gains - in which people have to work in inadvertently?
Isn't that subserviency at its best?

Remind me again, which state governor has held a state to ransom like BAT did/does?
Perhaps in old governments? (I wasn't born then).

Like I said, I admit......none of them are saints, but I can't think of any politician who's at par that can compete with him.
Simply put?

He's just a trailblazer.

You make it sound like we should get comfortable already with our state of being as a nation.
Like it's okay to have corrupt leaders, as long as they're good corrupt leaders who try to give back to society (from what supposedly belongs to us), compared to the likes of Alams and Ibori who didn't apply finesse of any kind.

To your last sentence, yes. Even from history the masses had always preferred the Robin Hood.

deemdeem:

Is like u asking what morals does the republicans has in asking obama to cut spending knowing fully well what they did spend when bush was executing wars everywhere.
It's not about morals here but what needs to be done.
Lagos is a perfect subset of Nigeria and to me if Nigeria operates and work the same way lagos works, we won't be where we are today. SW so far is better off with apc than pdp, why shouldn't the FG be better off with apc than pdp?

Good argument...