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A cabinet comprising 32 Personalities is too big, too bloated.
I would prefer a much more stream-lined cabinet of perhaps 20 backed up by several junior ministers!
We need to be conservative with the numbers as well as aiming for active engagement. Financial prudence will be the key to this governments success!

It’s absolutely crucial to note that in order to turn things around, i.e. to be pro-scientific, information discussed has to be completely objective and transparent. There can be no propagation of falsehoods.

The fastest super-computer in the world is called Tianhe-2
It was developed by a Chinese team of 1,300 scientists and engineers.
See link below

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2343265/New-Chinese-supercomputer-worlds-fastest-speeds-equivalent-338-million-ordinary-PCs-together.html

Please let us not show desperation to the extent of scamming people with fake info

See this is what I’m talking about, a huge percentage of Nigerians are hypocrites.
This is no joke at all and there is a ‘HUGE’ problem in many Latin/Mediterranean countries.

Gangs of Hundreds of Nigerian women (mainly from that region), openly touting their profession and running every time they hear a Police siren.

This is not a joke, it is a disgrace. But many do not care and it has taken me a long time to understand the Nigerian ‘PSYCHE’. Those in society that lack empathy of the human condition, human suffering and fuel human exploitation.

These are the same people that worship OYINBOs at any god given opportunity but never understand that OYINBOs suffered too but had to re-enginner and re-construct their society to make their peoples great, often at the expense of you ‘DARKIES’.

Back on point, the massive problem here is that if a Black (Nigerian) woman goes out for an evening stroll in Athens, Barcelona, Rome, Sicilly etc, as a tourist, she is bound to be approached by scores of OYINBO men to perform sexual acts of gratification.

DOESN’T this bother you? That woman could be your mother, daughter, niece, cousin, and this would not bother you?

It is a well known fact that some of these women are pimped out by some powerful wealthy madame’s in that region and they tie them to some type of juju oath before they smuggle them into those countries in order to keep them in perpetual prostitution. Some of these women are even tricked into getting drugged and having body organs removed illegally which in turn are sold illegally to recipients that have been waiting for a long time on a donor list.

DOESN’T this bother you? Do you think this is a joke. Is it only Nigerian women alone globally doing this age old ‘ASHY’ profession? The Chinese had a massive problem with this, but you never spot Chinese women crudely roaming streets and offering sexual intercourse in public. These women are responsible for degrading BLACK women, period! What a disgrace!

I was kind of hoping people would at least listen to the content of the clip, listen to his solutions, and ideas that would influence his policies. They are extremely cogent.

His ideas in terms of constitutional reform; checks and balances in the system; measures against waste and mismanagement; job creation for graduates; a workforce competing on a global scale for jobs in certain spheres; ideas to boost the economy; boosting development and the economy amongst others.

The enemies of reason and paid propagandists are trying to prevent us from having this dialogue. Can we focus on issues only PLEASE!

From the perspective of a neutral, whereas I normally refrain from commenting nowadays on NLAND, I could not resist drawing attention to the brilliance of this man called Osinbajo. What a remarkable formidable man.

World politics is about parity as world citizens. Nigerians have lost their credibility on a Global scale, but along comes Osinbajo, like a ray of light, providing a sense of hope. For me personally, I’m sold.

On a global scale, when this man talks and presents, foreign nations will stand to attention and take note. He will restore our credibility. I viewed the TownHall meeting in the US yesterday and I was almost in tears. It is time to give the cerebral a chance to rectify things in our Nation State.

Check out how this humble man proffers comprehensive detailed solutions in this clip, absolutely amazing.

Skip straight to 37.15 mins

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/3504140/events/3889798

From the perspective of a neutral, whereas I normally refrain from commenting nowadays on NLAND, I could not resist drawing attention to the brilliance of this man called Osinbajo. What a remarkable formidable man.

World politics is about parity as world citizens. Nigerians have lost their credibility on a Global scale, but along comes Osinbajo, like a ray of light, providing a sense of hope. For me personally, I’m sold.

On a global scale, when this man talks and presents, foreign nations will stand to attention and take note. He will restore our credibility. I viewed the TownHall meeting in the US yesterday and I was almost in tears. It is time to give the cerebral a chance to rectify things in our Nation State.

Check out how this humble man proffers comprehensive detailed solutions in this clip, absolutely amazing.

Skip straight to 37.15 mins

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/3504140/events/3889798

Only in Nigeria, Shame on this Government! Oh, I keep on forgetting none of them have any shame.

I am beginning to understand how the Slave Trade took root.

Germans and Europeans refuse to be anybodys slave and would rather face total annihilation than suffer the shame of having their citizens being taken as slaves.

Why not just change the name of the Nation-State back to the "Slave Coast".

Disgusting people!

Simply put, this is embezzlement. Embezzlement is a form of corruption and more precisely can be described as the "misappropriation of funds".


In "OUR" context, embezzlement equates to sabotage & subversion against the Nation State. This should be a treasonable offence. The perpetrators are adding value to other economies and currencies instead of adding more value to our economy, infrastructural development, stabilizing our currency and securing the prosperity of current and future generations.


These perpetrators are "Enemies of the State" and citizenry. If citizens were to attend these political ralies and physically turn their backs on these Politicians in sync whilst giving speeches, this would show disapproval and rejection.


It's a matter of Ethics, and the moral compass seems to lean towards the view that majority of Nigerians (occupying the centre ground of politics) have no shame!

This is my issue:

They say they do not want Western Education, and neither do their leaders push or implement policies to educate them. This has been the case since their earliest contact with Westerners.

In Southern Nigeria, it is the Christian Missionaries that originally started to educate people, not the State, (which probably explains why Education is in such the mess as it currently is). After the Civil War, the Northern wannabe Warlords sent all the missionaries packing because they claimed they supported the Biafran Struggle. Furthermore, Northern Leaders fiercely  resisted any attemp by the same missionaries to implement schools and education in Northern Nigeria, and fast forward to today, you can begin to understand where these prevailing attitudes stem from.

But my question is why did Northern Leaders have that attitude, and why is poverty so acceptable to them?

In my opinion, the answer to the above posed question lies in another question, What happened to the huge Slave Population of the Sokoto Caliphate that the British recorded in the late 1800's, and is there any relationship between the emerging Almajiri population of the North and the enslaved people(s) that the British recorded or noted?

Think about the above questions and you will get your answers. This is why I am proud to be a Separatist and believe that the Malfunctioning Nation State cannot be fixed. I know my questions are thought provoking and will be unpopular as Nigerians tend to prefer the Ostrich approach and tend to want to bury their heads in the sand.


Whilst you ponder I've got some additional questions, Is there any such thing as Western Education or are they refering to Scientific method? Aren't the Arabs (along with the Chinese) accredited for formulating Algebra, and if so why aren't Northerners pushing their masses for that kind of education? Last but not the least, was it not the Arabs that the Western world turned to recover the lost Aristotlean texts (works) of Poetics (335 BC) in the Middle Ages?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetics_(Aristotle)

Let's face it, we have got the worst type of Islam being practiced in Northern Nigeria, and that is why nothing fantastic will come out of this fake Nation State. We are all just delaying the inevitable and I want out.

Lol, I knew it, intelligent or not this man is clearly biased. What is evident here is the arrogance of the Northern elite. This is why Nigeria has to be divided.

Ouch!

1) If there were a U.N. Sponsored Referendum today, I am of the opinion that Northern Nigeria would actually lose territory in relation to how the territory was mapped out under Lugard as the people of the middle belt would opt to go with the South.

2) The truth is that the Islamic separatist aggressors will not give up their cause hence all other communities have choices to either band together to control the eventual outcome of their expansionist aggression or to fall prey and wait like sitting ducks.

3) A genuine SNC can only be conducted after the Islamic North have been excised from the Union. From this point, which ever Community would like to go their separate way, subject to a referendum should be allowed to peacefully under the supervision or input of international mediators. The idea is to let the people decide, and in reality the different peoples of the South do not have to like one another or hold hands as neighbours whilst skipping into the SunSet. If they want to go off and do their own thing, let them.

4) So let's talk about Military strategies, it's simple really. The Western Militia (Yorubas) hold the Western flank, the Eastern Militia (Ndigbo) hold the Eastern Flank, The Tivs, Beroms etc hold the Middle Belt (Centre ground) which serves as a buffer to the other Militias, and Further South (Ijaws, Itshekiri, Ilajes etc) hold the rear flank (part Coast), just in case or as a back up.

1) If there were a U.N. Sponsored Referendum today, I am of the opinion that Northern Nigeria would actually lose territory in relation to how the territory was mapped out under Lugard as the people of the middle belt would opt to go with the South.

2) The truth is that the Islamic separatist aggressors will not give up their cause hence all other communities have choices to either band together to control the eventual outcome of their expansionist aggression or to fall prey and wait like sitting ducks.

3) A genuine SNC can only be conducted after the Islamic North have been excised from the Union. From this point, which ever Community would like to go their separate way, subject to a referendum should be allowed to peacefully under the supervision or input of international mediators. The idea is to let the people decide, and in reality the different peoples of the South do not have to like one another or hold hands as neighbours whilst skipping into the SunSet. If they want to go off and do their own thing, let them.

4) So let's talk about Military strategies, it's simple really. The Western Militia (Yorubas) hold the Western flank, the Eastern Militia (Ndigbo) hold the Eastern Flank, The Tivs, Beroms etc hold the Middle Belt (Centre ground) which serves as a buffer to the other Militias, and Further South (Ijaws, Itshekiri, Ilajes etc) hold the rear flank (part Coast), just in case or as a back up.

1) If there were a U.N. Sponsored Referendum today, I am of the opinion that Northern Nigeria would actually lose territory in relation to how the territory was mapped out under Lugard as the people of the middle belt would opt to go with the South.

2) The truth is that the Islamic separatist aggressors will not give up their cause hence all other communities have choices to either band together to control the eventual outcome of their expansionist aggression or to fall prey and wait like sitting ducks.

3) A genuine SNC can only be conducted after the Islamic North have been excised from the Union. From this point, which ever Community would like to go their separate way, subject to a referendum should be allowed to peacefully under the supervision or input of international mediators. The idea is to let the people decide, and in reality the different peoples of the South do not have to like one another or hold hands as neighbours whilst skipping into the SunSet. If they want to go off and do their own thing, let them.

4) So let's talk about Military strategies, it's simple really. The Western Militia (Yorubas) hold the Western flank, the Eastern Militia (Ndigbo) hold the Eastern Flank, The Tivs, Beroms etc hold the Middle Belt (Centre ground) which serves as a buffer to the other Militias, and Further South (Ijaws, Itshekiri, Ilajes etc) hold the rear flank (part Coast), just in case or as a back up.

1) If there were a U.N. Sponsored Referendum today, I am of the opinion that Northern Nigeria would actually lose territory in relation to how the territory was mapped out under Lugard as the people of the middle belt would opt to go with the South.

2) The truth is that the Islamic separatists aggresors will not give up their cause hence all other communities have choices to either band together to control the eventual outcome of their expansionist aggression or to fall prey and wait like sitting ducks.

3) A genuine SNC can only be conducted after the Islamic North have been excised from the Union. From this point, which ever Community would like to go their separate way, subject to a referendum should be allowed to peacefully under the supervision or input of international mediators. The idea is to let the people decide, and in reality the different peoples of the South do not have to like one another or hold hands as neighbours whilst skipping into the SunSet. If they want to go off and do their own thing, let them.

4) So let's talk about Military strategies, it's simple really. The Western Militia (Yorubas) hold the Western flank, the Eastern Militia (Ndigbo) hold the Eastern Flank, The Tivs, Beroms etc hold the Middle Belt (Centre ground) which serves as a buffer to the other Militias, and Further South (Ijaws, Itshekiri, Ilajes etc) hold the rear flank (part Coast), just in case or as a back up.

Beaf, you have actually hit the nail on the head with this one.

What people do not realize is that in general amongst the Citizenry, there is a general loss of confidence in the Services of the NPF.

I'm not too sure if you're are aware of this, but a few years back in Jamaica, they had the same issue and their solution was to hire an ex-British Police top dog in that post in order to instill some confidence back into the service.

At the time the Jamaican Police Force was bereft with corruption, extra-judicial killings and employing non scientific methods for Crime Detection and investigation. I watched a documentary where ordinary Jamaican citizens were commenting after a year into his appointment and they said they felt he was more impartial and objective and was proving to be effective at curbing the excesses of the corrupt Police. Hence on a personal note, I think this is a fantastic idea.

Furthermore, just imagine if this was extended to airports, all those Officials asking for bribes (for doing the jobs that they were appointed for in the fist place), or requests for gratuity payments would cease.

It's about time we start to insist on changing things around in this country for our generation.

1) If there were a U.N. Sponsored Referendum today, I am of the opinion that Northern Nigeria would actually lose territory in relation to how the territory was mapped out under Lugard as the people of the middle belt would opt to go with the South.

2) The truth is that the Islamic separatist aggressors will not give up their cause hence all other communities have choices to either band together to control the eventual outcome of their expansionist aggression or to fall prey and wait like sitting ducks.

3) A genuine SNC can only be conducted after the Islamic North have been excised from the Union. From this point, which ever Community would like to go their separate way, subject to a referendum should be allowed to peacefully under the supervision or input of international mediators. The idea is to let the people decide, and in reality the different peoples of the South do not have to like one another or hold hands as neighbours whilst skipping into the SunSet. If they want to go off and do their own thing, let them.

4) So let's talk about Military strategies, it's simple really. The Western Militia (Yorubas) hold the Western flank, the Eastern Militia (Ndigbo) hold the Eastern Flank, The Tivs, Beroms etc hold the Middle Belt (Centre ground) which serves as a buffer to the other Militias, and Further South (Ijaws, Itshekiri, Ilajes etc) hold the rear flank (part Coast), just in case or as a back up. Game over (game, set and match) to Northern Islamic domination.

Negro, nothing personal, but "commomn ancestry", hell no!

Any splinter group that spills an ounce of Southern blood will be avenged be it Yoruba or otherwise, this cannot just be swept under the carpet via shadey dealings. FCuck em all.

I do not want to reside or build a Country with neighbours that are stone cold murderers, or those that do not believe in going to school or being productive. The sooner that we can start again, the sooner we can rebuild a modern economy, a new currency and eradicate poverty.

People do not have to be poor, it's bloody self inflicted. Enough is enough.

lol, this is a funny thread, absolutely priceless

Pato5:
I know we av d right 2 speak up against policies dat add burden 2 d populace. I reside in d northern part of dis country (jos, though its calld middle belt). D fact dat u guys in d south dont know is dat BOKO HARAM is growin in strength (killim pple lyk fowl) i wish 9gerians wil stand against dis dark forces d way d ar doin now in SUBSIDY. If we can stand in 1 voice n stop dis animals 4rm painting Islam black (wich we xtians ar now belivin is a religion of TERRORISM) In fact, we in Jos av adopted it as a life style,a xtain wont dare live in a muslims(northern muslims) territory no matter how cheap d rent is (all their stufs ar fuckin cheap). We nid 2 stop BOKO b4 d tear 9geria apart

Therefore, advice your people to vote in a U.N. Sponsored Referendum to become part of Southern Nigeria. Once this is achieved, then a valid SNC can be held to see if all constituent parts want to remain together. It's really that simple.

rasputinn:
@ Beaf hatersfans,

Its not just enough to hurl abuses at beaf without responding to most of his points,for instance,the points he listed,to wit;
*True federalism,let the states be more autonomous,control their resourcess and pay tax to the centre(this will encourage competetion and the spirit of enterprise,lazy state governors will sit up since there will no longer be free oil money,each state would have to woo investors and explore whatever resources are buried in the sub strata in their states)
*Abrogation of the land use act,hmm the draconian land use act
*Full deregulation of all sectors of the economy(including the petroleum sector;whether up or downstream;this will of course ultimately see the end of the NNPC as the concept was even fraudulent from inception)
*Diversification of the sources of income of the country

The above points are very salient and there are politcal leaders in certain parts of the country that would rather see Nigeria burn than allow the above to happen,for instance just a step towards deregulation that Mr President took,so many of these polticians started sponsoring all manner of things to undermine the govt

Please lets have more points,issues based discussion here,its more intelligent to do it that way than just log in to nairaland,abuse people and log out

The bottom line is[b] people can huff and puff as much as they want[/b], unless the Malfunctioning State is restructured, and the Naira is either totally scrapped of revalued (increased in value), then the endemic poverty, corruption, wastage will continue. So we have choices, to go for change, to put up or shut up.


BTW, influential people in Nigeria do not use or exchange Naira, they use USD, EURO, GBP

cap28:
This two faced bastard has turned hypocrisy into a fine art.

I know many nigerians are dumb but i dont think we would be so st.upid as to take advice from the very person who set in motion what we are now facing today.

Who accepted the original IMF loan and agreed to implement the SAP conditions which led to mass poverty, devaluation of the naira, cuts in education and healthcare, the wiping out of the middle class and brain drain?

IBB dont worry its not over yet - you will get your comeuppance soon.

Right on point, its a shame that the demos are not about reverting the situation.

Kobojunkie:
Now would it not be nice to have a port through which Nigerians can report crimes anonymously, or at least have the information gathered somewhere to be later forward to the right people?

Well I wonder myself too, and this is precisely why the whole system needs an overhaul, its actually self defeating.

edoyad:
It's not the country as such, it's the useless 1999 constitution we operate with. It's almost like the system is working against it self, but i'm really impressed with our security agencies none the less. When we have a system that allows criminals be elected into office, it results in what we have today in the country. But who even screens these people before they become candidates? Isn't it the SSS.

Well I'm not being funny here, but everything you've just pointed out here implies a Malfunctioning State along with its apparatus.

I once saw a Thread (Poll) on NL titled 'Have you ever given a bribe', and the answers posters gave were very interesting.

Now considering that the act of giving and taking a bribe involves two felony or criminal acts, it would be interesting to start a poll to find out if anybody has actually reported being forced to pay a bribe to any individual to the Police in Nigeria?

See, in addition, it is a well known fact that most members or agents of the NPF are corrupt and take bribes (openly) check-points galore, but where can an honest Nigerian go to report these types of crimes, and please don't say the EFCC.


I once had an argument with a poster on NL that was justifying Police corruption and bribe receipt, he claimed it caused no harm and they were using it as a means to subsidize their meagre wages (I mean what a friggin slowpoke). But my point is unless the Citizenry accept that the whole damn Malfunctioning State needs an overhaul they are just delaying the inevitable and promoting poverty amongst the majority of the populace.

I once saw a Thread (Poll) on NL titled 'Have you ever given a bribe', and the answers posters gave were very interesting.

Now considering that the act of giving and taking a bribe involves two felony or criminal acts, it would be interesting to start a poll to find out if anybody has actually reported being forced to pay a bribe to any individual to the Police in Nigeria?

See, in addition, it is a well known fact that most members or agents of the NPF are corrupt and take bribes (openly) check-points galore, but where can an honest Nigerian go to report these types of crimes, and please don't say the EFCC.


I once had an argument with a poster on NL that was justifying Police corruption and bribe receipt, he claimed it caused no harm and they were using it as a means to subsidize their meagre wages (I mean what a friggin slowpoke). But my point is unless the Citizenry accept that the whole damn Malfunctioning State needs an overhaul they are just delaying the inevitable and promoting poverty amongst the majority of the populace.

koruji:
[size=14pt]Which country gives officials immunity to treason? NIGERIAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!![/size]

A very simple answer, a FAKE Country and a MALFUNCTIONING State. Very pretentious indeed.

Yeah right, and I guess the top NNPC Execs are the biggest winners in all of this  

houvest:
I watched the video message to Nigerians from the leader of the Boko Haram sect and my view is that there isn't any need to quarrel or fight over anything that is the preference of any group of people in this age of self determination. All that the sect leader and his people need do is organize a referendum to show that they and the people in certain parts of Nigeria reject certain things (whethe, r Christianity, foreigners, or Western Education) and seek a plebiscite for that part of the country to be structured in a particular way in a confederal arrangement or be excised from the federation of Nigeria. They could even invite the United Nations to superintend the process of becoming an enclave confederating with the rest of Nigeria without any trauma. But to kill in God's name is to dishonor any faith that I know of whether it be Christianity, Islam or Confucianism. PU

Prof is right, the idea of a U.N. Sponsored referendum is the main mechanism for preventing further deepening chaos and violence in this Country and it is so bloody obvious as I have been screaming about this for months, after all how can we go on to continuously let innocent people get slaughtered with impunity, it's absolutely ridiculous that most visitors to NL (especially the ones abroad) don't react to seeing pictures of butchered babies or women in Jos or other parts of the Middlebelt or Country at large without  doing something. All in the name of religious intolerance and religious subjugation.

Whether it is the Boko Haram issue, or the Jos crisis, or the hacking to death of the Corpers during the last elections they are all symptoms of the same problem and anybody that does not understand that is just being politically naive.

I must admit though that I have a preference for the aggressors to be excised from the Union. Enough is enough, you can't build a Nation with cold blooded killers.

They say they do not want Western Education, and neither do their leaders push or implement policies to educate them. This has been the case since their earliest contact with Westerners.

In Southern Nigeria, it is the Christian Missionaries that originally started to educate people, not the State, (which probably explains why Education is in such the mess as it currently is). After the Civil War, the Northern wannabe Warlords sent all the missionaries packing because they claimed they supported the Biafran Struggle. Furthermore, Northern Leaders fiercely resisted any attemp by the same missionaries to implement schools and education in Northern Nigeria, and fast forward to today, you can begin to understand where these prevailing attitudes stem from.

But my question is why did Northern Leaders have that attitude, and why is poverty so acceptable to them?

In my opinion, the answer to the above posed question lies in another question, What happened to the huge Slave Population of the Sokoto Caliphate that the British recorded in the late 1800's, and is there any relationship between the emerging Almajiri population of the North and the enslaved people(s) that the British recorded or noted?

Think about the above questions and you will get your answers. This is why I am proud to be a Separatist and believe that the Malfunctioning Nation State cannot be fixed. I know my questions are thought provoking and will be unpopular as Nigerians tend to prefer the Ostrich approach and tend to want to bury their heads in the sand.


Whilst you ponder I've got some additional questions, Is there any such thing as Western Education or are they refering to Scientific method? Aren't the Arabs (along with the Chinese) accredited for formulating Algebra, and if so why aren't Northerners pushing their masses for that kind of education? Last but not the least, was it not the Arabs that the Western world turned to recover the lost Aristotlean texts (works) of Poetics (335 BC) in the Middle Ages?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetics_(Aristotle)

Let's face it, we have got the worst type of Islam being practiced in Northern Nigeria, and that is why nothing fantastic will come out of this fake Nation State. We are all just delaying the inevitable and I want out.

I am absolutely convinced that if we publish the names of the top 20 Executives of the NNPC every Year since IBB's reign, we will begin to see a pattern emerging.

On the 8/11/11 I stumbled across an article that stated that an Oil well had been purchased from the NNPC for an undisclosed sum, and I was absolutely perplexed. I wanted to know if this was common practice.

I started a thread on NL and posing the question and seeking an answer and nobody was remotely interested.

This was way before the current demonstrations against the removal of Fuel Subsidy.

Most Nigerians are hypocrites, they only care about having access to Petroleum products and not about the source or point of extraction, or devastation left in its trail.

The question remains, which bunch of people have a grip on the NNPC? There lies the question. How deep does the rabbit hole go?


http://www.247nigerianewsupdate.com/2011/12/08/shell-eni-buy-nigeria-offshore-oil-field-rights/

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=820937.msg9724006#msg9724006

Sam_Ikenna it is really refreshing to interact with the true face of a Genuine rational son of the soil. What I am finding out about NL is that it is not a forum fit to hold rational discussions in relation to the objective. When rational logical thinking men interact, they have to do so with like minded people. It would be impossible to go to Ajegunle or Jankara Markets in Lagos and expect to achieve or strike up rational dialogue. It's all about reasoning.

Basically, we have to find a different forum.