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Christianity EtcRe: Sincere Questions To Frosbel by shdemidemi(m): 8:56am On Dec 30, 2014
lastmessenger:
You just said what I never said. To repeat myself. I said a just reward is that man is punished according to the level of iniquity he comitted.
secondly even bible through many scriptures showed that man will be punished but not tortured forever.the wages of sin is death that is very clear for all to see. Am still wondering how the endless torture doctrine found its way into Christianity. I personally think it is an attempt to keep people in check by e elite but unfortunately the idea have been counterproductive in that people develop thick skin and some totally reject the gospel. Anyway only study shall people be completely free.
My conclusion is not based on logic or interllevt or study? Then what else do you call logic? Is it not logical that a timed offence committed by man should be punished by a timed punishment?
Jesus described hell and whenever he did he was never dismissive or flippant about the idea of hell. He made clear statements on the severity of the final destination of sinners. He used graphic metaphors and frightening instructions to describe what hell is and and why we must avoid it. It will be so horrific and intolerable that Christ would rather have you pluck your own eyes from its socket to experiencing hell after the transient and natural life.
Christianity EtcRe: Sincere Questions To Frosbel by shdemidemi(m): 8:49am On Dec 30, 2014
Image123:
Are you afraid or shy? I asked you question, you didn't answer. Lemme talk with those that answer na. You didn't address what i said but you want to chase me away, why?
The guy avoid questions that demand answers that will most likely debunk all of his logical resentments. He would rather open a new mooted thread to avoid confrontation with the truth.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did It Take 2,000 Years For The Gospel To Reach Nigeria? by shdemidemi(m): 9:13am On Dec 28, 2014
MrMash:
The biblical account has many flaws that I find it utterly impossible to believe, Noah was sent to a particular group of people not the whole world, and they refused to follow Noah's teaching and were destroyed just like d pple of S&G when they failed to listen to Lot.

Can u please educate me on what happened to Abraham's first son?
Where exactly did you get the bold emphasis from?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did It Take 2,000 Years For The Gospel To Reach Nigeria? by shdemidemi(m): 8:30am On Dec 28, 2014
MrMash:
God never destroyed the whole world, he only wiped out the "people of Noah"........ Fairy tales kills ur brain, a little research wont hurt.
Research!!! Hmm, from where exactly?

one more question for you....Do you believe the biblical account?
Christianity EtcRe: Nigerian Christians Stop Praying by shdemidemi(m):
frosbel:
Summary ;

God honours righteousness not empty prayers and incantations...
Are you righteous?

Has God answered all you ever prayed for?

Which country has God blessed because of their 'righteousness'?
Christianity EtcRe: When You Are Not Happy In Christ by shdemidemi(m): 8:04am On Dec 28, 2014
frosbel:
I don't think I remember telling everyone that they are in darkness except those who have restricted salvation to a very privileged few and damned 95% of humanity to etnal torment. This one is not only darkness , it is also madness on steroids.
Darkness is synonymous to ignorance my dear and you sure think all supposed follower of Christ is ignorant or don't you? For this reason you have even declared you are not a christian, but a student of Yeshua.. abi?

I won't argue hell or heaven with you- why should I? after all you are 'god Frosbel' who knows all truth and can sift true from lies even in the hallowed book.
Christianity EtcRe: When You Are Not Happy In Christ by shdemidemi(m): 7:49am On Dec 28, 2014
frosbel:
I enjoy it when religious folk like you call me a backslider because I came to realise the truth about your fallacies and wishful thinking being presented as faith.

Freedom is what it is, freedom from the madness your kind practice and call it faith , lol.

Repent !
Hahaha... Frosbel has discovered the actual Holy Grail thus everyone else is in darkness and they are plainly religious or mad without the esoteric and complete knowledge of Frosbel. Truth be said, you are simply a guy that enjoys drawing attention by taking non conformism to a lofty extreme. The world sure like controversies and you have decided to make that a call of duty.

'god' Frosbel now defines truth since the bible is half true and half lies..

How it will all become clearer just when it might be too late.
Christianity EtcRe: When You Are Not Happy In Christ by shdemidemi(m): 7:38am On Dec 28, 2014
lastchild:
Not just happy in this new lifestyle called born again, feeling so suicidal
I don't think christianity is the problem here. You might have come for the wrong reason, you might have been sold a snake oil by charlatans who mask themselves as christians.

OP, why did you choose to become a christian?

What is so depressing about your new lifestyle that warrants suicidal thoughts?

What would you rather do or have to feel happy?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did It Take 2,000 Years For The Gospel To Reach Nigeria? by shdemidemi(m): 7:24am On Dec 28, 2014
iamord:
u don't need this! Just answer the question
And what makes you feel the OP sincerely want answers!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by shdemidemi(m): 2:32pm On Dec 27, 2014
Goshen360:
Frosbel under scrutiny..... grin grin grin grin
Your brother has completely lost the plot o....He needs help.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by shdemidemi(m): 2:31pm On Dec 27, 2014
Weah96:
Leave this ancient Mayan ritual business alone, nigga. I doubt that even Count Dracula is this obsessed with blood.
Do we believe in the same thing?

Do I have a right to believe in whatever I choose to believe in?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by shdemidemi(m): 2:17pm On Dec 27, 2014
frosbel:
Mr. A sins but still goes into heavenly bliss because his sins are covered with the blood.

Mr. B does not sin but still goes to hell fire because he is not covered with the blood.

I say this is garbage talk and the fairy tale imaginations of religious folk.
Exodus 12
7 And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.

12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt [size=32pt]I will execute judgment: I am the Lord.[/size]

13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.



Don't you understand what the blood of the lamb represent?

Can any supposed good man stand before God's judgement without the blood and yet find himself guiltless?

Do you think the angel of death will kill anyone under the blood? Let's assume fora moment that Pharaoh's family go under the blood, do you think the blod will be ignored?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did It Take 2,000 Years For The Gospel To Reach Nigeria? by shdemidemi(m): 1:51pm On Dec 27, 2014
frosbel:
Mate, I don't need a Calvinist to teach me about Christianity. That in itself is false doctrine, so what business do I have with you ?

I am still a student of Yeshua.
Lol.. Why don't you deal with issues head-on and not try mix inappropriate topics to make yourself feel better. What has calvin got to do with my conversation with you here. Did I ever tell you I am a part of any christian group or movement?

How can you be a student of Christ when you pick and choose what you want from the book that serves as a manual and a resource for a Christ centered life?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did It Take 2,000 Years For The Gospel To Reach Nigeria? by shdemidemi(m): 10:59am On Dec 27, 2014
frosbel:
Only in a very small part and that was over 600 years after the first gospel was preached. So back to question , what happened to those who never heard the gospel in China between 30AD to 635AD ? Remember we are talking about millions of people here !
If you like talk thrillion of people... Who created them? Who has the absolute sovereignty to determine their fate?

What happened to the world that was destroyed before this one, did you not read that only one household survived the wrath of God?

Does God operate on the same emotional frequency as you?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did It Take 2,000 Years For The Gospel To Reach Nigeria? by shdemidemi(m):
frosbel:
Absolutely not a Christian especially according to your warped definition wink


By the way where is your answer to the question ? Don't tell me they are all burning in hell right now according to your weird theory of predestination , lol. cheesy
Do you even know what being a Christian means?

Your over zealousness have suddenly becloud your bible reasoning. You have suddenly become a god to yourself judging scriptures by what your limited 'brain' adduce to be right or wrong. Frosbel's brain have invariably become the benchmark for God's character and mindset hence if it does not add up to Frosbel it isn't true and it is invariably summed up as evil by him. Frosbel's logical reasoning is become his god since God's word can't cut it for him.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did It Take 2,000 Years For The Gospel To Reach Nigeria? by shdemidemi(m): 6:53am On Dec 27, 2014
cecegorz:
Frosbel, it seems like you are gradually turning into an atheist.
Like they say in NL, I just dey observe o
Gradually!!!That is putting it mildly. Your friend is anything but a CHRISTian.
PoliticsRe: Nothing Wrong With Jonathan's 21 Billion Pledge by shdemidemi(m): 5:19am On Dec 27, 2014
There is a certain limit to donations stipulated by the law, I don't know how the OP. Missed it.The PDP party have clearly flouted this law and they must be ready to own up to the oversight for the sake of posterity and integrity.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by shdemidemi(m): 2:59pm On Dec 23, 2014
frosbel:
I believe in God , but not your god who propagates myths and fables as Truth.
And the supernatural account of Jesus is the supposed myth and fables abi?
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy And Mummy Church Syndrome by shdemidemi(m): 2:18pm On Dec 23, 2014
frosbel:
@shdemidemi: , now back to the topic, whose church daddy are you ? grin
There is absolutely no basis for discussion between you and a christian. The Word of God remains the final authority and the only guide to godliness and perfection. You have since swerved from the guide to vain philosophy and human logic hence there is no biblical ground for a discussion with an unbeliever of the Complete Word of God.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by shdemidemi(m): 2:10pm On Dec 23, 2014
johnydon22:
What are y'all yapping about. Calling a spade a spade how is it a bad thing. y'all know that they are truly myths and fabrications in the bible but y'all chose to ignore it but frosbel dont..
Y'all believe this cus its wat was indoctrinated to u from.birth by ur parents.
so because the bible said a snake talked we should all believe a snake once talkedhuh
doesnt it sound like tue folklore they use to tell us as kids about tortoise and lions and other animals.
guys stop all this.... sad
If they had told you the moon, the sun and the stars can all stand independent of any man, I am sure your logical brain will also call that some form of mythology or folklore. But as God will have it you can see it for yourself and you can't explain those things and so many other things that have been divinely put together supernaturally.

I am too sure you like frosbel are only looking for excuses not to believe even when there are countless reasons to believe the bible and God.
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy And Mummy Church Syndrome by shdemidemi(m): 2:01pm On Dec 23, 2014
frosbel:
lol grin

So says the fake teacher who believes that tens of millions of African ancestors are going to hell because they were predestined for that fate , even though they never heard about Jesus.

Add to that your false doctrine on once saved-always saved and original sin which even damns babies to hell and you are left with no other label but that of a HERETIC. wink
you are throwing your fist in combat style already grin.

I hope no one fall for all your hate propelled threads that does you or the body of Christ no good. Who really listens to a sinking man who sees everything from a bitter point of view?

These people are wrong quite alright, who says your 'abandoned garage loose dog' approach will change them? Go and accept your bible as the complete and inherent word of God before attempting to point people to the right path.
Christianity EtcRe: Daddy And Mummy Church Syndrome by shdemidemi(m): 1:39pm On Dec 23, 2014
PastorKun:
Especially given the fact that Jesus clearly instructed his followers not to call their religious leaders 'Father'.
As much as this topic represent ways at which people have moved from the stipulated rules that guide the church, I don't think we should encourage this OP any further.

The OP's spiritual condition is worse than these people at this point in time.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by shdemidemi(m): 1:32pm On Dec 23, 2014
esere826:
Interestingly, one of the popular pastors from Eastern Nigeria.
I can't remember if it is Okonkwo, once said on TV, years ago
that he did not believe in the virgin birth for a long time even as a pastor.

I don't think that a believe or none-believe in many aspects of the Bible are prerequisites to eternal life
What I think is that they can only affects ones faith and direction on this earth either positively or negatively.
The Virgin birth is the heart of Christianity. If Jesus happen to be like you and I in the sense that he is a direct progeny of the fallen Adam, He wouldn't have been fit to die for the sin of mankind.

Paul puts it this way-Rm 8v3 For God achieved what the law could not do because it was weakened through the flesh. [size=22pt]By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and concerning sin, he condemned sin in the flesh[/size],

He was not sent as you and I but like you and I i.e without natural copulation between a man and a woman.

If a pastor does not believe this, he really does not understand what he proclaims.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by shdemidemi(m): 1:21pm On Dec 23, 2014
frosbel:
Hmm, so trying to determine very important truths with [size=16pt]my BRAIN[/size] which God my creator blessed me with is now according to you, "worldly and foolish" ?
My friend, there is nothing wrong with trying to determine truth. The issue here is where you go to find such TRUTH. Whether you like it or not your brain can never comprehend the full manifestation of God's nature and His divinity.

If you have gone to scriptures to find truth you might come across how depraved what you call your brain is... It will only lead you away from submission to God and a lofty evaluation of yourself and your capability to be as god, determining your own right and wrong.

Paul says Romans 12:2

2 Do not be conformed to this present world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may test and approve what is the will of God—what is good and well-pleasing and perfect.

Some rendition have it that we should not copy or think as the world think but be transformed in our thinking in conformity with the word of God.

My friend you are not only copying the worldly way of thinking, you are going one step further to discredit the wisdom of God in the circumvention of nature to bring about Christ the Lord of all and Messiah.


frosbel:
see this is why you remain where you are , deeply steeped in error of all kinds and never able to come to a knowledge of the truth.
Don't be so assuming and belligerent at the same time bro. You are the one who is on a wild goose chase of some form of truth. I know who the truth is and I know where to go if I ever need anything that pertains to the truth.

frosbel:
This verse is simply saying that God's wisdom is greater than the wisdom of this world and I totally agree with that statement. I believe in God and his great works, wonders, high purpose etc
My friend, it isn't just that. It juxtapose the sort of wisdom you seek by invoking your brain with that which come by God. It describes your sort of discoveries as moronic and outright foolishness. It also describes it as the kind of wisdom that is invariably reserved for those who are heading for the full wrath of God.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by shdemidemi(m):
frosbel:
^^^^


and what does all this have to do with the topic huh
It's got everything to do with the topic because you seem to be on a quest for some sort of knowledge and a kind of wisdom described as worldly and foolish. The sort of wisdom that will make logical sense to natural senses and many noble atheist and anyone of a free thinking persuasion.

Please explain what the verses mean to you....

Does it describe two kind of wisdom?

What exactly is the difference between God's wisdom and human/worldly wisdom?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by shdemidemi(m):
Thank God you still have some form of belief in the words of Paul as the inspired Word of God. May I ask what you understand by this verses of scripture-

1 cor 1
8 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, [size=30pt]it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.[/size]

22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are
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Christianity EtcRe: John Macarthur's 2013 Strange Fire Conference by shdemidemi(m):
WinsomeX:
Reading Conrad's debate with the charismatic preacher, my mind went to Joagbaje's ill fated challenge on SirJohn. That singular action has put Joabaje off nl, maybe forever.

There is really no point using God's name to reap people off. Vooks accusses cessationists of seeing no real gifts manifested. Truth is that the Charismatics do not also. Why? Because these things happen by God's sovereignty and the much he allows are witnessed by all of God’s people, whether they are charismatic or not.
Any sincere christian can hardly fault Conrad's narrative of events in our part of the world... It can be so depressing atimes especially when you see supposedly sane people like mba emeka, Gombs, bidam, image123, NLmediator and vooks support the pervasive cause of our local charlatans. Jo agbaje and his likes are lethal criminals that deserve the wrath of our government, but as it is they will continue the deceit of millions of people until the nation finally wake up to its God given responsibilities on an issue that should be seen in the same light as they see physical terror by Islamic rebels/terrorist.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Frosbel Now An Atheist ? by shdemidemi(m): 12:39pm On Dec 22, 2014
What makes Christ different and worthy of worship has been defamed by the OP.

The reason we Hope, and the fulcrum of our belief- RESURRECTION- was also refuted

The word of God that leads us to all truth is being debunked as partially correct.

Now, why is the OP still happy to identify with God through Christ?

LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY WISDOM/logic/philosophy OF THE WORLD BE LIES.....
Christianity EtcRe: John Macarthur's 2013 Strange Fire Conference by shdemidemi(m): 5:29pm On Dec 20, 2014
Great job @winsomex

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