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Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 5:28am On May 21, 2023
gaskiyamagana:
" ...... certainly in vain made it, the pen of the scribe is in vain..." . This is just one out of thousands of interpolation, tampering, infiltration and adulteration of the Bible KEY words.
1. How, in English meaning and nearness in meaning is VAIN and LIE as used in the Bible l quoted and the one you qouted ?
2. Why the sentence is reconstructed to loose the implication of the content ? Holy spirit or holy lie at work?
Let the adulteration and interpolation of the Bible continue in order to seal your DOOM of Q5:116-118.
Sincerely u just a waste of time. U very empty n don't know anything about your Qur'an.
U have failed to defend any of the verses u raised or we raised here.
U simply making claims u can't defend. Nobody is interested in your apocalyptic scare here, save that to your brainwashed Muslims fanatics.
Defend your claim, that's what we want.

Did Muhammed declare he believed in Torah and pronounced it to be the true revelation of Allah.
Answer the question.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 10:39pm On May 20, 2023
iamrealdeji:
He said "I don't think", he never said "Allah said". These are day to day activities bro. They are not prophecies or facts. I love the fact that you're very inquisitive and very impressed you went this far to Educate yourself in the teachings of Rasullah,it means you're a great guy yourself. This is the same way whites think and research and don't just follow like Zombie just because of what they're told. And with this your level of inquisition,may Allah guide you to the right path. Muhammad never wanted to be Idolized and turned to God the way CHRIST being a good person got IDOLIZED and turned to God to form Christianity or the way BUDDHA being a good person was IDOLIZED and turned to GOD to form BUDDHISM. These are nothing but Idol defined worship. Muhammad never even wanted any single drawing or statue of himself because Buddha and Jesus followers do place statues and drawings of these great men(People's Idols) in front of them and pray to them,God hates Idol worship because God was so angry with his statements in Quran about Idol worship and calling someone else God or saying God had a child. If Prophet Jesus was alive to witness all these false write ups and practices made behind him,he would be extremely sad and disown christians.
Point of Correction: HOLY QURAN IS THE MOST FLAWLESS BOOK EVER WRITTEN AND PERFECTLY SUPERVISED BECAUSE IT STUCK IN MUHAMMAD'S BRAINS,HE LED PRAYERS WITH IT TILL HIS DEATH,HE READ IT TO ANGEL GABRIEL IN MANY OCCASSIONS AND HE THOUGHT IT TO HIS COMPANIONS WHO CRAMMED IT ALL WITHOUT MISSING A LETTER. ALTERING A LETTER IN QURAN IS STRAIGHT HELL FIRE.
Muhammad's prophecies have been fulfilled with no contradiction at all,his scientific facts were proven right by scientists.
Since u claim Qur'an is flawless, explain this verse....

So let the people of the Gospel (Christians) rule according to what God revealed in it (gospel). Those who do not rule according to what God revealed are the sinners.
Q5.47
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15:
gaskiyamagana:
" O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) ! Why do you MIX truth with FALSEHOOD and conceal the TRUTH while YOU know " Q3:71.
Now let's see what your Allah says about the bible.

So let the people of the Gospel (Christians) rule according to what God revealed in it (gospel). Those who do not rule according to what God revealed are the sinners.

Q5.47
Here Allah is saying people who don't follow what's written in the gospel are sinners.

Now let's read another one

But why do they (Jews) come to you (Muslims) for judgment, when they have the Torah, in which is God’s Law? Yet they turn away after that. These are not believers.
Q.5.43
Here Allah is telling the Jews to follow the laws in the old testament for judgement.

In both verses, your Allah is telling Christians and Jews to follow what's written in their own books because in it is guidance and the truth. He admonished Christians and Jews not to come to Muslims for judgement.

Allah clearly told Christians to follow the gospel for guidance and not the Qur'an.

Now these verses I quoted from the Qur'an presents a big dilemma to muslims because when Allah says Christians should be guided by only the gospel....

It's either Allah knows Jesus Christ is the true Messiah, the truth , way and the light as well as the only begotten Son of God

OR

Mohammed never fully understood what's written in the gospel b4 commencing the dictation of the Qur'an. Muhammed isn't learned so couldn't have read the gospel, he simply based his perception of the gospel from what he heard or was told.
Thus Muhammed contradicted his own teaching by validating the gospel.

Either way, it doesnt look good for Muslims at all.

The two options for them now is either to accept what's in the gospel and embrace Jesus as true saviour of the world; OR admit Muhammad was a fake prophet who was never sent by God.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia retaliates, bans Obama, 499 US Citizens over US sanctions by SIRTee15: 1:26am On May 20, 2023
Madaraa1:
And did that all just happened removing the fact that there past made them what they are building a whole civilization on slavery and exploiting other

Now them judging others is a bit funny coming from them
My response was about the guy defending oligarchs.
They are just rent seeking business men,.nothing more. We also have them in Nigeria.
Ask what happened to oligarch who confronted Putin, they were arrested, stripped of their wealth n jailed.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia retaliates, bans Obama, 499 US Citizens over US sanctions by SIRTee15: 11:34pm On May 19, 2023
Madaraa1:
Are you sure you know about america try to read more and see yes they have lots of billionaire but read more please

The company you mentioned are benefiting from the fact that they have a good economy but try read about their past before you point fingers
They sell products we all use even outside America. America provide an enabling environment for them to thrive and succeed.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia retaliates, bans Obama, 499 US Citizens over US sanctions by SIRTee15: 10:34pm On May 19, 2023
Globetrot:
I don't really understand why people don't see through this hypocrisy of the west,if you are a Russian billionaire then automatically you are an oligarch,but if you are from the west then you are a hardworking business man even if you are corrupt.
But let's face the fact, u can't be a Russian oligarch without being in Putin's good book. These guys benefit from the sales of state enterprise in the 90s after collapse of Soviet Union.

Most of them became wealthy via natural resources and u need a license to operate. Guess who issue the license.


Now let's turn to the west, where we know of thousands of hard working billionaires.

Apple
Tesla
Amazon
Oracle
Google
Microsoft
Dell
Facebook
Twitter....

Can above billionaires be called oligarch....
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15:
Gaskiyamagana brought a Qur'anic verse here but when he was shown the problem with the verse, he couldn't defend or explain it.
This says a lot about the teaching in koranic schools, It's all about la cram la pour.
That 5 million people memorize the Koran doesn't mean it's true, it only mean 5 milion people memorized lies, false hood and rubbish.

Mohammed said the Allah is going to punish Christians for worshipping Allah, Jesus and Mary as the trinity.
Above is not only laughable but ridiculous. because no Christian ever worshipped what's written above.

However, the Koran clearly asked Muslims to seek guidance and truth from Christians if they are confused about what they worship...

“So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.”

Qur'an 10.94

So gaskiyamagana, ask me about the trinity and what we worship as advised by your own prophet and I be happy to cure your ignorance.

Case closed.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 4:55am On May 19, 2023
gaskiyamagana:
Your business with the book ends when you format your brain and change your mind set to leave ALONE ALLAH, ISLAM and MUSLIMS and ceases mixturing falsehood and lies about them.
Mr Man answer the question. Why did Qur'an get the trinity wrong.
U brought the verse here nobody forced u...then defend it.
Trinity was common knowledge during Muhammad's time yet Muhammad couldn't get it right.
And in your twisted mind, u want me to trust a book that couldn't correctly identify the things I'm doing wrong.
If the diagnosis is wrong, how can the treatment be correct. It becomes trial and error, hit and miss- summary of your Qur'an.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 12:15am On May 19, 2023
gaskiyamagana:
".....a book practically for the blind."
We're you too quoting from it, a blind ? Or you are confusingly contradicting yourself?
I'm quoting it for u. What's my business with the book.

U want be to believe in a book that doesn't even know what it's meant to correct.

Allah said the trinity is Allah, Jesus and Mary. Is the Qur'an correct?

Which Christian sect worship God the father, Jesus and Mary as the trinity.
This the question I've been asking u and u quietly refuse to answer.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 9:01pm On May 18, 2023
gaskiyamagana:
In the robotical brain of some Christians when it comes to religious comparative discourse with Muslims; always
2 + 2 = 22
2 - 2 = 22
2 ÷ 2 = 22
2 × 2 = 22
If not, why and what is your problem(s) with the Quran calling Jesus Messiah and in the same Quran, l quoted Q5 :116 - 118 of same Jesus.
As l said, l am expecting how you are going to escape, from your corrupted sources of misinterpretations of Quran, the judgement of Allah as Jesus absolving himself of your excesses and handle you over to HIM.
The mere fact that your Isa told Allah that Christians worship him, His mother and Allah shows he's not Jesus Christ of the bible. So I'm not bothered about your impending apocalypse.
No Christian ever worship Jesus, Mary and God the father.
U should ask Muhammed where he got that information from....
Deal with above first, then we can continue.

Guy, I'm not interested in your Allah calling Jesus the Messiah but I'm interested in the Jews that called Jesus the Messiah in your Qur'an.
It's a big difference and u should know that.
The Messiah issue is valid. No Jew practicing person ever acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah except in the Qur'an.
That's a dubious statement that can't be backed by evidence from anywhere.


And [We cursed them] for their disbelief and their saying against Mary a great slander

And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ."


Who are this Jews that called Jesus the Messiah but still killed him.
U have to provide historical evidence for these Jews otherwise the Koran is a lie and can't be from God.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 6:51pm On May 18, 2023
So drlateef wouldn't go beyond the 1st round b4 throwing in the towel. He simply refused to continue...
I don't know if it's due to exhaustion or he's recovering from the bruises he received as a result of forcing dubious embryology theories into the Qur'an.

A Muslim colleague, gaskiyamagana has volunteered to continue the fight but I'm not sure he's aware of what he's about to get himself into....

The first Quranic verse he brought to the ring shows he's a novice. He only ended up exposing the Qur'an as a fake book which are the words of illiterate Mohamed.
because I don't know of any Christian sect that worship Mary.
The veneration and honour Catholics give to Mary is the same as what Muslims do to Muhammed if not more. But Muslims will come here and claim they don't worship Muhammed even though they can kill for him.

It's a pity Muslims are not bold enough to come here and defend their faith within a realm of intellectual discuss.
It only makes the saying true...without lies and violence, Islam dies.

For those interested, here are my other questions
2. What is the age a girl.child should be consenting to marriage.
3. Why is Jesus called the Messiah in the Koran? What is the meaning of the Messiah in the Koran? Pls no tasfir and pls don't bring Arabic definition because Messiah is not an Arabic word.
4. The Jews called Jesus the Messiah in the Koran. Who are these Jews and why did they kill him if they acknowledged him as the Messiah.
HealthRe: FG Moves To Replace Striking Doctors With Ad-hoc Staff by SIRTee15: 2:20pm On May 18, 2023
blowjohn:
200
280
350
500 to 1 mill


Thing is, even tho the salary of doctors, even the most junior doctor seems very okay, compared to other salary jobs, I tell u what, the work u go do as that most junior doctor go make u forget the money and that's not even the amount out counterparts are earning outside( with far less workload)


Even if am paid 500k as a junior doctor trust me the workload swallows up everything.

By my estimation, a house officer (fresh out of university)who is at the lowest level Shud earn nothing less than 400k.
If u understand that there are doctors working straight 1 to 3 months call in many government hospitals u will see what I mean.
I once worked 5 days straight cos I was the only one in my unit and had to wait for another doctor to join me.
I think the exchange rate isnt helping...because the 1m for even consultant is just 1200 pounds at best.
I think the focus should be on improving the economy otherwise doctors will continue to leave esp now that it's very easy.
HealthRe: FG Moves To Replace Striking Doctors With Ad-hoc Staff by SIRTee15: 12:33pm On May 18, 2023
blowjohn:
Government is playing.
These days, on average, a house officer has at least 20 to 40+ patients to manage.
My colleague had 49 patients in burns and plastic unit to attend to every morning at one point.
He's done with housejob but has sworn not to practice again.

Government won't equip universities so that they can have accreditation and graduate doctors on time.

Hospitals are not taking doctors.

I just dey laf
Many units now don't even have a regsitrar.
Only senior registrars.


Time is ticking out.
can u hint us on the present salary scale accross cadres of doctors in federal hospital. that will help us understand if this 200% raise is justified.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15:
gaskiyamagana:
" AND (REMEMBER) WHEN ALLAH WILL SAY (ON THE DAY OF RESURRECTION) " O 'ISA (JESUS) ! ....... DID YOU SAY TO MEN : ' WORSHIP ME AND MY MOTHER AS TWO GODS BESIDES ALLAH?" . HE (JESUS) WILL SAY: " GLORIFIED ARE YOU! IT WAS NOT FOR ME TO WHAT I HAD NO RIGHT (TO SAY) ......... NEVER DID I SAY TO THEM AUGHT EXCEPT WHAT YOU (ALLAH) DID COMMAND ME TO SAY: 'WORSHIP ALLAH, MY LORD AND YOUR LORD ' , AND I WAS A WITNESS OVER THEM WHILE I DWELT AMONGST THEM .......... AND YOU ARE A WITNESS TO ALL THINGS. IF YOU PUNISH THEM, THEY ARE YOUR SLAVES, AND IF YOU FORGIVE THEM, VERILY YOU, ONLY YOU ARE ALL-MIGHTY , THE ALL-WISE" Q5 : 116 - 118.
By the content and context of the above verses :
1. No quality of faith, creed and doctrine , as well, no quantity of work the Christians - dead, living or unborn - do on earth are WASTED, REJECTED AND RUBBISHED hereafter.
2. A serious Muslim must be laughing at whoever is inviting him to accept Jesus. Or, he will ask such faith - hawker(s) , " Was it the same Jesus of the above verses or corrupted one in the corrupted Bible(s) ?
Over to you , Chancellor, Christian-Corrupt University for Islamic Studies (NairaLand Campus), to explain from your corrupted sources, how you are not going to suffer the fate above hereafter.
I don't even have anything to say to u when your own Qur'an is a book of confusion.

AND (REMEMBER) WHEN ALLAH WILL SAY (ON THE DAY OF RESURRECTION) " O 'ISA (JESUS) ! ....... [b]DID YOU SAY TO MEN : ' WORSHIP ME AND MY MOTHER AS TWO GODS BESIDES ALLAH?" . [/b]HE (JESUS) WILL SAY: " GLORIFIED ARE YOU! IT WAS NOT FOR ME TO WHAT I HAD NO RIGHT (TO SAY)

Sorry which people worship Jesus and Mary besides Allah?
because it's definitely not Christians.

How can u condemn a doctrine when u don't even know the doctrine itself. U simply create more confusion...and that's what Qur'an did here....

That's why I pity those who follow that book...it's a book practically for the blind.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 11:26pm On May 17, 2023
gaskiyamagana:
Acceptable age according to Islam or Christianity or tribal/culture of a particular ethnic or Western law?
The one that fits your understanding of a girl child.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 10:55pm On May 17, 2023
drlateef:
Go and ask your non-purulent doctor.
What a shame u giving up....
Thought u had the nerve of steel to defend Islam.

Go and study that real embryology comment from Muhammed I quoted.... next time, I will take u on it.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 10:17pm On May 17, 2023
drlateef:
Testicular artery is fron L1 in most cases. A small aberrant artery arises from L2. And same with renal arteries. Because they have same origin. And who tells you that embryology is not important in learning about the anatomy of organs and their arterial and nerve supply? Which medical school did you go? Who trained you?
Guy leave story. We saw the quality of your own medical school with the purulent stuff you ve been dishing out here.
Let's go to next question....
What's the acceptable age a girl child can consent to marriage.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 6:58pm On May 17, 2023
drlateef:
From Abdominal Aorta at the level of L1. If you are doctor you would understand what I am saying. Thats where the testes and ovaries get their supply from. Because they all originated at that level. That level is what Allah is describing accurately in a roughly lay man’s term.
Muslims argue Muhammed doesn't know embryology and he was making cryptic statements like the semen origin but u guys are wrong
Muhammed actually spoke about embryology in the Qur'an...

23:14. "Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood, then of that clot we made a lump; then We made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; the We developed out of it another creature."

Now don't panic, I won't take u up on above, I will reserve it for another day. Enough of embryology.

But U guys should stop speaking for Muhammed, he had the capacity to speak for himself. When he wanted to speak about embryology, he actually did so
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15:
drlateef:
From Abdominal Aorta at the level of L1. If you are doctor you would understand what I am saying. Thats where the testes and ovaries get their supply from. Because they all originated at that level. That level is what Allah is describing accurately in a roughly lay man’s term.
This is the first statement u will say since this argument that will make sense.
Good thing u completely left the kidney and the neural tissue out of it because u were just making very bizzarre comments.

Yes the testicular artery arises at the level of L2 from the abdominal aorta and NOT from the renal artery. If u mean this, then u very correct.

But really u don't need to enter embryology to prove this. I really don't see the need for u to do so....

All those your long talk on purulent embryology stuffs was very unnecessary.
.


Next time just say Mohammed meant the blood supply to the testes comes from close to the ribs, and we will decide if it has any correlation with this statement.....

“Man should reflect on what he was created from. He is created from spurting fluid, emerging from between the backbone and ribs.”

Even though, in between the backbone and the ribs actually means the thoracic cavity and not the retroperitoneal space.
I don't understand how something emerging from the lumbar region could be regarded as 'in between the rib and back bone'.
This is what we call fallacy of equivocation.

Now let's go to the next question.
What do u think is the age a girl child can consent to marriage.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15:
drlateef:
Pelvic kidneys are held down by aberrant blood vessels and other structures as the lower trunk develops and elongates.
Pls go and read nephrogenic cord and it's division, then come back and tell me which them gives rise to the fetal kidney.
I thought u said the kidney doesn't migrate, how come it's now been held down. How can u hold down something that's fixed?
See u not only are u contradicting yourself, u also not making sense.
That's what happened when u try force Qur'an into embryology.

Pls go to my next question....
What is the age a girl child can consent to marriage.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 11:59am On May 16, 2023
drlateef:
You are a joker. Obviously you know nothing about embryology. The fetal kidney has blood supply from L1 at all times. Same with testis and ovaries. Because that’s their embryological origin. Same with nerve supply. The L1 is the vertebra and it is junction of thorax with lumber region. Thats the junction between the last rib and lumber or loin region. And this is my last comment. The rest you should go and read if you are truly searching for truth.
He be like say u like choping dust. I gave u a way out but u rejected insisting u preferred to be embarrassed.
Besides what do u even mean by blood supply from L1. I'm not going to assume for u because I'm beginning to doubt your qualification.

Now to expose your ignorance....
You said this....

The fetal kidney has blood supply from L1 at all times. Same with testis and ovaries. Because that’s their embryological origin


Now let's ask other sources....

Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 6:41am On May 16, 2023
drlateef:
Let me lecture you further. The kidney does not move but the upper part of the body elongates faster than lower part in early stages of fetal life. But after delivery the lower parts develops faster and eventually the kidneys remain in same position around L1 level. That was its position in early stage of development along with gonads. That’s why their blood supply and nerves arise from T12/L1. I am teaching you anatomy and embryology for free. You might not get that on google.
I will be soft on you. Obviously u struggling to defend your weak theory because u likely have forgotten your embryology- the fetal kidney doesn't have the same blood supply throughout its development stages and it's not always at T12/L1.

Anyway brush your memory on embryology and I will leave it at that.
Your prophet already get a better and honest answer to my question....

“I am only a human: if I command you to do something in your religion, then take it; but if I tell you to do something based on personal opinion, then [realize] that I am only human,” and in another narration, “Yet if I inform you of something from Allah, then do it, for indeed I will never convey an untruth on behalf of Allah Mighty and Majestic,” and in yet another narration, “You know better of your worldly affairs.”

Poor knowledge of embryology doesn't make u less of a Muslim. So u don't need to be sweating over something not relevant to your faith.
Forcing embryology into the Koran will not help it's cause here, nobody is buying it including pragmatic Muslims.

Now can move to question 2.
As a doctor, at what age should a girl child consent to marriage.

Pls let's be civil, no need for insults. We all here to learn.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 12:41am On May 16, 2023
drlateef:
That’s not the typical description of what happens in embrology and anatomy books by Prof. Keith Moore.
The elongation of body relative to position of kidneys is what is observed, not migration of kidneys. Thats why you can have developmental anomalies like horseshoe kidneys etc. The elongation of the trunk is what causes positions of kidneys to change, not migration of kidneys. There is no mesentry that will drag the kidneys because they are retroperitoneal structures. Structures that move are usually having a mesentery or cord that drags them. This is the case with testis. There is a cord that drags it along into the scrotum during descent. The kidney has no such structure.
Ok then explain pelvic kidney.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 10:32pm On May 15, 2023
sonmvayina:
You still don't understand anything..

God gave humanity his laws to keep so that they can live in peace. Because at the end of the day...their body return to dust and their spirit returns back to dust.
The Jews wrote it down and called it the Torah. It is for their national religion called Judaism.
I am Igbo..we have the same laws as part of our omenani/odinala. We pass it from father to son to grandson..orally. some people have written it down too..for anybody interested to learn it. I learnt mine from my grandfather.and father too...
It is the same laws as God forbids the same thing.
Why you are fixated on the Jewish one is what I don't understand yet. Are you a slave?
I follow the traditions/laws/statues of my tribe... worshipping or following the idea of another tribe will make me a traitor ..

God's laws are universal.
Do not murder
Do not steal
Do not bear false witness
Do not worship any idols.
Do not commit adultery...

Etc...

If you are smart you would have realised that. Why you decided to choose Christianity is what I don't understand.

So now please answer my question..
This guy na confirm idol worshipper sha, if he now has a shrine in his house, the ritual is complete...na him own tabernacle be dat....

Besides the spirit of man doesn't return to the dust, pls correct that.
Except amadioha is your own deity.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 10:23pm On May 15, 2023
drlateef:
Good night.
Dokita....
learn from one of your young brilliant doctors. It's just a 5 minutes video.
Come back and thank me.
The kidney wasnt in same position throughout fetal stage....it was actually in the sacrum at its early stage.
So pls come back and explain your T12/L1 theory.
It's not adding up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQTzvTR1AlY
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 10:16pm On May 15, 2023
drlateef:
It can be very frustrating for the teachers that taught you in school. I can feel their pain. Anyway other people reading can see my statements and how true they are. I find it difficult to teach dullards. They are usually in SEN (special educational needs) school. That’s where you should go for your schooling. That’s where people with Downs’ syndrome, autism, spinal bifida etc go to school. Your IQ is obviously low. Good night.
Embryology from the skull of drlateef...


The site of kidneys in adult is almost the same site where it arises with testis. While the kidneys remain in same embryological origin, the testis descends on both sides to the scrotal sacs in newborn.


Olodo dokita.....

Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 9:31pm On May 15, 2023
drlateef:
See the picture below and appreciate the contiguous structures to the urogenital ridge. On the midline you have the neural tube and notochord which forms vertebrae and spinal cord. The only structure separating the urogenital ridge from the neural tube and notochord is paraxial mesoderm which forms the muscles around the vertebrae. Now is the Quran right or wrong when it says between the backbone and the lower ribs or chest bones. The site of kidneys in adult is almost the same site where it arises with testis. While the kidneys remain in same embryological origin, the testis descends on both sides to the scrotal sacs in newborn. Do you now agree with Quran? I will be surprised if you agree. Because you will lose your faith in bible and your Jesus christ.
Only thing I'm interested in is your admission that your previous comment was incorrect...

The notochord is the future spinal cord, a ridge develops at the level of future T12/L1 of notochord and it is called urogenital ridge.

The urogenital ridge has nothing to do with notochord.

Summary of what u wrote is another desperate attempt to smuggle embryology into Qur'an... unfortunately it failed.

Trying to define structures in a 3 week embryo that's just 2mm in size is ridiculous. Virtually all organs in our body came from the structures in your image. I guess they were once all contiguous according to your logic.

Your description of the kidney embryology is laughable and is simply another attempt at forgery. U will come back and eat your word.

You said...
The site of kidneys in adult is almost the same site where it arises with testis. While the kidneys remain in same embryological origin,


Seriously u wrote this, have u heard of the ascent of the kidney in embryology? Go and read the region of the body the kidney is finally formed and how it got to its present stage.

And the development of the kidney actually started from the neck of the embryo.
Pls read and stop embarrassing yourself online.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 2:05pm On May 15, 2023
drlateef:
Don’t waste my time, get a young doctor who knows embryology, or any anatomy graduate.
This is another young doctor u looking for...
Learn about your notochord.
I wont allow u turn this into embryology class....so I will delete the video if no response from u within few hours.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV0INvrpvJ0
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 1:58pm On May 15, 2023
drlateef:
Don’t waste my time, get a young doctor who knows embryology, or any anatomy graduate.
You are nothing but waste of time. Prove it here that urogenital ridge arises from the notochord.
Chaptgpt prove u a liar.
Even this young doctor confirms u a liar.
I will roast u, chew u and spit u out. U won't be the first I will expose his ignorance here on nairaland and definitely won't be the last.
U are too shallow to challenge me. Ordinary first question, u couldn't cross the hurdle, u grasping for lifeline, and we are meant to get to question 4.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hPQ08XY-kA
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 12:39pm On May 15, 2023
drlateef:
All i need you to do is to go and bring a young brilliant doctor who knows embryology very well. Ask them to make sense of all my statements. He will help you. Also get an arabic speaker to explain the broad meaning of tara’ib. That’s how you can help yourself.
Mr Man u brought up the notochord theory, bring the evidence yourself.
Go and bring evidence from your embryology textbook the notochord has anything to do with urogenital ridge or gonadal development.
Otherwise u failed and your claim is rejected.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 11:40am On May 15, 2023
TenQ:
I think it is you who has to accept superior argument.

Is the Taraib one of the L1-L5 bones?

Your whole argument had been based on that sir!
I just don't understand this Muslims.
I'm yet to see any superior argument he brought forward.
He could neither defend the L1 nor notochord theory he's been postulating.
The funny thing is that Muhammad he's trying to defend here gave a honest answer when he was caught lying. He quickly said he doesn't know much about general knowledge and they shouldn't hold his word against him when it comes to worldly affairs like science.

Which means if it had been discovered during Muhammad's time that the semen is actually from the testes and not the backbone, he will admit he was saying nonsense and admonish his followers to ignore his lies.

Also, if it was revealed during his time the damage and evil of child marriage, Muhammed wil admit it was wrong for him to have married Aisha, and will warn his companions to leave girl child alone and not be consumed with greed.

But now we have drlateef and co trying to be more Muslim than Muhammed. They think they know more than Muhammed who created the religion.

Really I just pity them because they are forever stuck with the Qur'an, they are practically slave to that book. They must defend all the nonsense in it even if it only makes Islam and Muhammed a subject of mockery.
Christianity EtcRe: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15:
drlateef:
Exactly!!!! He is not even going to accept superior arguments. I see many of them as hopeless cases. No need wasting any time with them. If they find salvation before death, all well and good. If not, that’s their loss. I won’t be affected in any way. Every soul will bear the burden of their faith or faithlessness.
Muslims are funny....
They will be the first shouting people should apply objective reasoning and logic to religion. Bragging if such is done, Islam will triumph.
Now we doing that on this thread....as they see Islam is faltering, Muslims quickly duck to the subjective argument of Qur'an is right because it said so.
Anyway, your prophet already gave a rational answer to his goofs and error. So your manipulative answer is no longer necessary.
But your prophet's answer raise a bigger problem. If his erroneous comments are not from Allah, how did they enter the Qur'an which is suppose to be 100% accurate.

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