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oluwaseyi0:
Useless blogger have started, no movie took his life

It's his own stupidity, coupled with his fellow Nigerian stupidity that took his life

1) he enter overcrowded boat without life jackets in a huge water body (self stupidity, he's not a kid)

2) after boat capsized no diver or emergency rescuer in sight (system stupidity)

3) when he was finally rescued no CPR or mouth to mouth breathing was done (another society stupidity)

4) he was taken to mortuary, thank goodness he is not a Muslim he will have been taking to burial site straight away

5) after mortuary rejection he was taken to a juju place rather than hospital or CPR (another dysfunctional religious brain set of society)

6) finally been dragged to the hospital it's too late and guy man finally succumbed, guess there is so many things 'Jesus cannot do'

7) his young family is about to be robbed of his body as they are claiming his body must be buried in an unknown riverside (just imagine this same set of people are alive when Mary Slessor want to stop killing of twins, they will have fought vehemently against it and claimed killing of twins is a tradition that must never ever end

Why did U bring Jesus into the matter now.
U must be very sick in the brain.

Pupanchy:
Can we share any sexual experiences we had with our ex, mine that l could remember back in those days r many but Ronke is a bad girl that no where we can't do it most especially in their compound, staircase, mum's bed, sis bed, kitchens, bathroom, toilet etc, though she's married now but l don't feel like talking to her anymore because a little light can ignite a woman arousal.

At this your age U no still get sense.
Abi no be U beard full all him face. Still talking about sex with an ex.

Lukuluku69:
In Christianity, I am afraid you are all brainwashed.

Lol

Yes we have had discussion in the past and I can confidently say all your exegesis were from position of ignorance and misinterpretation of sacred Text.

Well I remember I used the word Wereydinho but for completeness why not include the words you used too?

Muslims are invading Europe? Really? Well, you are free to believe what you choose to believe. You have every right to that but it is simply laughable to think and believe that the Almighty Europe and America are allowing Muslims to invade them.

Simply laughable.

I wouldn't say u guys are brainwashed. I will say u guys are either ignorant of your religion OR some of you like yourself chose to put your head in the sand and simply refuse to drag it out. Like TenQ use to say, dont confuse me the truth, I'm aware of it already- I just dont want to accept it.

For one thing, I can confidently say that 99.99% of educated muslims know that God did not dictate the koran. At least I'm sure those among u that went to university including u Lukuluku know for certain its a lie- koran is not the direct word of God.
Just studying the biography of Muhmammed and the manner he receives revelation gives it out clearly- the guy just manipulated everything.

How can someone commit murder during the time of peace. A murder that led to massive outcry even amongst the muslim population of mecca and medina that people began to doubt the prophethood of Muhammed. Faced with losing face by admitting his error, Muhammad went into his hut and emerged with a convenient revelation "from Allah" that it's justified to ignore peace treaty and kill during the sacred months so long as muslims are denied entry into kabba.
Common man, how convenient was that verse...does it even make sense. How can God make such ridiculous statement.
Muhammed even said Allah revealed to him- murder and to slaughter is more acceptable than being persecuted.
I'm sure Lukuluku will deny any religious leader who makes such careless statement today.
That's why I said u guys just wants your head in the sand. simple.

I keep saying this and I will repeat it here...
An ex christian is someone who doesnt understand Christianity and decides to leave while
An ex muslim is someone who understands Islam and left the dangerous religion.

Lukuluku69:
It is an open secret that a thorough brainwashing exercise are usually embarked upon your young ones right from an early age.

Sunday School.

Cramming the Whole Quran is called Learning and not Brainwashing.

Jesus said Hear O Israel the Lord your God is One but what do you tell your young ones from early age? Lol

If you want to know the words you used on that Thread, feel free to revisit the Thread.

As for Europe and Islam believe what you want to, it doesn't change the Reality on ground that Europeans and Americans are coming to Islam in droves. Even Latin America

I just dont understand this new habit of ascribing European converts joining Islam as evidence of truth. FYI, Islam is not new to european continent, its only new to western europe.
Albania, montenegro, Bulgaria, Bosnia-Herzegovenia, Macedonia and kosovo all have significant muslim population for centuries. It doesn't change anything about Islam and I dont understand how few thousands joining in france or UK will change anything. except u muslims are secret admirers of whites or something.

Europeans are generally curious being and are very much open to new ideology. The largest followers of new African spirituality are white people. If we reform our Yoruba religion and modernise it, white will become adherents in droves. They already find our Parthenon intriguing and lots of them ask questions about it online.
If u see the way the black man is denigrated in the media, one will expect the last person to date a black man will be the white woman, yet the highest interracial marriage in the west is btw the black man and white woman. That's just who they are- curious being.
In the 1990s, whites were travelling to far east in droves to practice budhism and spiritual meditation, I guess they became bored and abandoned it.
Islam is the new fad, the new toy though I admit the Moral degeneracy in the west also has a role to play and the failure of Christianity to live up to expectation esp in Europe.
That's why Islam fails to thrive in non-muslim regions with strong conservative background like far east, India, Latin America and sub Sahara Africa.

Bliztzer:
Jesus while he was on earth didn't even speak Hebrew, he spoke aramaic.

So how was he able to read the scriptural scrolls in the synagogue.
because the new testament confirmed Jesus read from the scrolls.
Mind U, the Jewish scrolls are written in Hebrew.

ednut1:
the ifa worshippers who are descendants of slaves taken 200 years ago still use Yoruba for incantations

What's the potency of their liturgical chants.
Have U ever seen them invoke sango and the deity responded.
Its the same thing, it's meaningless reciting phrases u don't understand.
Candombe even incorporate some elements of catholic tradition into their practice.
Abeg those ones are just playing.
The religion is called new African spirituality and it's just more of celebration of culture than anything else.

Ohyoudidnt:
Gross display of ineptitude and ignorance. I gave you a test and surely you fail. You keep failing. I said identify, did you specifically?



You don't get it and unless Allah wills you never will.

The concept of the Holy Trinity, which refers to the Christian belief in one God existing in three persons - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, has its roots in ancient pagan religions.

The trinity is not a unique concept introduced by Christianity, but rather borrowed and adapted from earlier pagan beliefs. In ancient Egypt, the deity Horus was often depicted as the son of the god Osiris and the goddess Isis, forming a trinity of sorts. Similarly, in ancient Babylon, the trinity of Ishtar, Sin, and Shamash represented the mother, father, and son.

Is that why Koran made Mary the wife of Allah and Isa the son

And talking about copying ancient practice.
Who were the pilgrims visiting kabba every year to circumbulate it b4 Muhammed told Muslims to copy
the the tradition

ednut1:
you only want to make yourself feel good. Most of the religions in the world today use the original language where they originated. Some things are lost in translation. Your cannot translate Yoruba incarnations to English for example. In summary i support Muslims using Arabic shikena. Same way i support Hindus doing same

Yeah makes sense if the religion is restricted to it's native speakers.
How many Muslims understand the Arabic they cram. How many of them can speak Arabic fluently, I engage them regularly here, U will be surprised I know more english Koranic verses than majority of them.

Few white people I know that do Yoruba incantations actually lived in Yoruba land for years and indoctrinated themselves properly into the Yoruba culture b4 making incantations or consulting ifa oracle.
That's how it should be done. Not sitting down in Lagos and cramming a book written in foreign language u have no clue about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87wB6wse6CA?si=uzkWl0Ii4PBoBWd5

Btw, We have the Hebrew bible with us today. We also have the Aramaic new testament and koine greek NT with us.
So it's not like the native language is lost anywhere. We do have them with us, it's not just important for us to start cramming it when U don't even speak the language
Makes no sense.

ednut1:
true faith indeed that they white man used it to justify slavery and also colonized us. There is nothing like true faith abeg rest. The bible was written and edited after Jesus died . So how can you be sure of what Jesus advocated for language wise. The religion of were he was from still use their own language wherever they are( jews).

Christianity that was cooked by unknown men in rome/ Vatican . Keep consoling yourself o

No need to go emotional bro. Its obvious U ve not don't your due diligence on this topic and just repeating the stale narratives flying around.

I just don't understand how people keep associating white man to the bible when there's no blue eyes and blong hair character in the bible. Yes U heard me, no white European character in the bible but I can show U at least 20 black people mentioned in the bible including Abraham, moses and David's wives!!!


The white man didn't use the bible to colonise anybody just like the Romans didn't use the bible to colonise the native English people or any Germania tribe.
They used power and might. The mighty will always feed on the weak.

The white man didn't preach bible to anybody in exchange for slaves. Greed and stupidity on African tribes played a bigger part.
To let U know the white man didn't use the bible to justify slavery, they actually gave a different bible to the slaves.
They slavers knew if they give the true bible to slaves, they will automatically realise they shouldnt be in chians.

Christianity cooked in Rome and salted in Vatican na propaganda. That can work on a Christian who has poor knowledge of early church history.
I have debunked atheist multiple times here on their ignorance and propaganda. We can discuss church history in the 1st century sometime in the future.

I actually researched Christianity properly b4 making a decision to join the faith- Both textual and historical research and the more I dig deep, the more it's obvious Christianity is the truth.

U can start by reading something called the Corinthians creed to know if what we claim is actually the truth.

ednut1:
Jesus didn’t speak English, Spanish, Portuguese or Russian tho. If for example oyo empire was the one who colonized the world and we spread our religion. Does it make sense to read incantations in English assuming we conquered England. Hell no

I’m not a Christian or Muslim tho

That's what make Christianity the true faith and not ifa religion.
U should be able to communicate with the supreme and universal deity in any language since he created them all.
How can U say the only way to communicate with a universal God who created all languages is thru a specific language otherwise he won't hear u. It doesn't make sense.

It shows the religion is a tribal one that was elevated to a global level via whatever means.

Christianity dont have this problem because neither Jesus nor his disciples advocated for a liturgical language for worship. One of the reason I believe it's from God.

ednut1:
Did Jesus speak English?? The Europeans are also using it to promote their own language no be so?

What do U mean by above. There are millions of Christians who can't utter a word in English, they are no less Christians than English speaking Christians.

U fall my hand by this analogy sha.

Ohyoudidnt:
Who are the immediate audience of Muhammad pbuh?

We have revealed it as a Recitation in Arabic that you may fully understand

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Show me the Arabic phrase calling shin character or call it a day

Ohyoudidnt:
Doesn't you Jesus not support the trinity?

Define trinity as U understand it or what do U think christian believe to be trinity

Qasim6:
This particular verse you quoted is addressing christains believe.

This verse is just telling us what Jesus preached to the Israelites in contrast to what christains believe.

Maybe the verse you wanted to quote is Q4:157, which I believe is addressing their claim in the Talmud.

That's the problem. That verse is very problematic and your response is based on hindsight knowledge which Muhammed didn't have.
The verse states some people declared Messiah is Allah.
Jesus corrected them by saying ' o children of Israel' and admonished them not to associate partners with Allah.
So the question is who said the initial statement. If it was Christians why would Jesus respond to children of Israel instead of Christians.
That error depicts Muhammed thought children of Israel also believed Messiah to be Allah.
And that leads to numerous problems as U already guess.

The verse and preceding verse made no mention of Christians.

Expanse2020:
Mark the word shin in the Arabic text... Maybe you can understand what you are saying rather than saying wrong thing

My friend, whatever is the shin in Arabic I don't care.
Is that shin one with God, that's my question.
Is the shin with Allah or separate from it.

Tawhid makes no sense.

Ohyoudidnt:
Don't overeach but show any where that Jesus says he, the holy spirit and God are one entity.

Why would Jesus say that?

Lukuluku69:
In your previous post, you claimed the Trinity was established and I ask why is a need for a Conference to discuss it?

Do you know a bit about logic and priori events?

The definition of trinity as defined and established by the council - that is what they came up with.

They were not the only one who came up with the definition of trinity albeit the most popular.
I was referring to their own definition.

Ohyoudidnt:
Don't mind SIRTee15, Advocatejare, TenQ, MightySparrow,Aemmyjah and their lots diverting from the reality of the polytheism they practice in the trinity guise of Christianity.

In Arabian culture, the proverb “when the shin is made bare” signifies a situation where someone’s true intentions or character are revealed. It implies that when a person’s shin is exposed or uncovered, their true nature or motives become apparent. This proverb is often used to describe moments when hidden truths come to light or when someone’s facade is stripped away, revealing their genuine self.

U guys will lie to cover up the deficiency in your theology. None of your literature referred to shin as a phrase in Arabic culture.
Not the Koran, not the tafsir and not the hadiths.
But we should accept the confabulation from someone who could barely construct a simple sentence in Arabic.

Ohyoudidnt:
Please show the word trinity in the Bible and if you want to convince show where Jesus says he is one of the trinity.

Kindly note the trinity and emphasize this in your verifiable response

I will show U trinity in the bible if U show me the word Tawhid in the Koran
But if U looking for the extrapolation of the term trinity.

Let's start with baptism of Jesus Christ.
Then read Matthew 28. 19

Charlie2020:
There's a 127 year old man in Guyuk Adamawa State. This man witnessed the first and second WW. He calls Zik and Awolowo his juniors. If you want to get the man to tell you stories of past 100 years, just buy him original Sapele water

He's suffering from dementia

Igb0sCriminals:
Hehehe

Àìrìnjìnà la ò rí abuké òkéré


My great grandfather is 139 although a bit fragile now

My grandfather is 106 and still agile

Make Una dey deceive Una sef.

Villa12:
Islamic girls
Jehovah witness
Catholic
Penticostals

Decency amongst our girls are in this order

I can confidently tell U 99.99% of deeper life ladies get married as virgins.
Over 90% of Pentecostal girls from upper class/elite homes get married as virgins.
Multiple seminars are conducted by youth wing of Pentecostal churches just to discuss importance of virginity and keeping yourself till marriage.

I will rate catholic, white garment and Muslim girls as the same. They all sleep with their fiance steady prior to marriage. They only promote mutual fidelity.

Emu4life:
Now you sound pained. But your 'God' died

Tell me the difference btw worshiping a black stone in Mecca and worshipping one in Nigeria.
And to imagine this one will call traditional religion idolatry.

I just don't understand why U will will embrace stone worshipping and then decide to go for the one in Mecca.
What happened to ancestral stones your forefathers worship.

Emu4life:
Now say it without crying
Your 'God' Died. Lol. And he was crying for help on the stakes
What a dying 'God'

I would rather worship a dying god than worship a black stone.
A black stone that was stolen and thrown back into kabba after the bandits found it useless.
Bloody pagans.
Remember to bow to your god, the black stone b4 going to bed.

And

Tell the difference between the two pictures below. Tell me the difference btw worshipping a black stone and idol worshipping.

Villa12:
I also School in the south, the Islamic girls in my school are very much descent compare to Christian girls. The two Islamic girls in my class got married as a virgin in their final year. No Christian girls in my class are virgin. Islamic girls generally are descent than Christian girls. That body they cover is not for fashion o. They solely reserve it for their future husband. They don't shake boys nor mingle with boys anyhow. The only Christian that you can still see few descent ones are the Jehovah witness and probably Catholic.

Catholic girls virgins...
U can confidently say U don't know what U talking about. U just confabulating.

Which islamic girls marry as virgins?
I hope U know undefiled bed is not a strong doctrine in islam compared to Christianity.

As I said, U don't know what U talking about.
Bye

Villa12:
Islamic southern girls are better than their Christian counterparts

U gotta be kidding me. They have the highest out of wedlock kids in the south.
Leave your house and know what's going on in the street.

I went to medical school in the south. The Christian girls in my college, U will think they plan to get married to Jesus.

The north is the difference and it's mainly cultural. Northern Christian girls are also well behaved.

Villa12:
I am not a Muslim but i will tell you for free that Islamic girls keep themselves better than Christian girls. This is a known fact.

This is a big lie. The dichotomy is north v south.
Southern girls irrespective of religion on average are morally bankrupt.

Roger3D:
If not for white man you would have been worshipping the gods of your ancestors right?

Ignorance is bliss..
Ask the Ethiopians that question.
Also read on dynamism of culture

Roger3D:
Your White man Christianity is even worse. The history of your religion is couched in blood, but I don't expect a black slave such as yourself to understand that

Pls separate white men from Christianity.

Christianity doesn't belong to the white man. The same way it was preached to Africans is the exact way it was preached to whites.

If U want to argue. U can start by mentioning the name of any white character in the bible...just one.
Otherwise I will just ignore your ignorant comment.

ivolt:
So you think a family setting and a public setting is the same thing?
How many times have you seen semi-nude pictures of women posted by their family members
for fun?

Do you expect total strangers to adhere to such discipline?

U not making any sense. We saying the same thing but religion has beclouded your sense of reasoning.

If it's a female gym, then it's not public anymore. Not every tom, dick and harry can access the facility.

That thing they wearing is harzadous. How can U be on a treadmill with such gown.

U can as well wear agbada to gym to prove a point.

All the crazy Muslim men supporting this nonsense will never wear agbada to gym.

That's what happens when U give up your brain in exchange for religion.

ivolt:
To prevent being exposed like in this post.

So why don't we see the videos of Muslim women when at home without headscarf.
Most hijabi ensure their hair is not exposed when making videos at home.
This will not be posted without their express permission especially in a place like Saudi.

They should wear appropriate gym wear. That thing is not safe.

ivolt:
The gym is strictly for women.

The whole thing no make sense.
If it's a women only gym, then why are they still dressed in such manner.