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Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 11:09am On Sep 25, 2023
Maynman:
Jesus of nazareth,NAZARENE wink, jesus christ never existed get that to your skull

Understand what you are posting 😂😂
Ok so u admit Jesus of Nazareth existed.
Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 11:08am On Sep 25, 2023
Maynman:
Wonder what he calls people that worship jesus as deity s grin
Dont change the topic. This is about historicity of Jesus.

U are not a theist, I have no business discussing the divinity of Jesus with u.
Focus on the fact on ground.

Did Jesus exist?
Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 11:05am On Sep 25, 2023
43Ronin:
but the Gospel of Matthew was not written in the 1CE when Jesus walked the earth. In fact Mark was the first gospel to be written and was written between 70-110 CE. you see where the problem is?
How old was Jesus in 1CE, when did Jesus began his ministry, when did he meet Mathew.

Pls do more research, then gather your thoughts properly b4 joining the ring.
Sorry I don't do baby atheist.
Thanks.
Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15:
Maynman:
Bart isn't a dullard like you that needs to believe. Bart knows why he said jesus of nazareth (NAZARENE) and not jesus christ.

You are indoctrinated,you ard the one that needs help worshipping jesus of nazareth.
Bart Erhman calls people like u foolish and dumb.

Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 10:41am On Sep 25, 2023
Maynman:
Bart isn't a dullard like you that needs to believe. Bart knows why he said jesus of nazareth (NAZARENE) and not jesus christ.

You are indoctrinated,you ard the one that needs help worshipping jesus of nazareth.
Keep changing your evidence up and down. It's the spirit of confusion that's tormenting u.

Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 9:36am On Sep 25, 2023
Maynman:
It was you that brought in Bart thinking he will support your jargons.
I wonder what Bart has to say about papias and father Clement.

Stop lying SIRTee15, Bart doesn't "believe" Jesus existed, he is not a indoctrinated braindead theist like you, Jesus is a common name, Jesus Christ never existed and you don't need to "believe" he did.

Believer, Why do you need to "believe" Jesus existed?
Bart Erhman isn't stupid like u
His head is on his shoulder.
Unlike u that your head is filled with junks from conspiracy websites.
U lost man. U need help.

Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 9:14am On Sep 25, 2023
Maynman:
A forged composite book.

So show me where didache copied mattew, since Bart is not correct.
I mean do not pin your hope on Bart Erhman to support your stupidity.
He's a thinking bible critic unlike u whose head is filled with conspiracy junks.

His works are quite solid and good. If u want to think like him, then u have to believe Jesus existed.

That's what I'm telling u.

Of course u can bring his works here, but I can assure u will likely be disappointed not me.
Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 9:11am On Sep 25, 2023
Maynman:
A forged composite book.

So show me where didache copied mattew, since Bart is not correct.
Where did u get this. Wikipedia will never say Didache didn't mention Jesus.

Maynman the forger!!!

Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 8:55am On Sep 25, 2023
Maynman:
J sad
Good let's stick to Bart.

Didache is your hope now, a redacted book cheesy
Didache tells me there were people who called upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ in the first century.

You better don't waste your time on Bart Erhman. He's a thinking bible critic unlike you empty heads here.

He believed Jesus existed and the gospel wrote about him.
His own issue with Christianity is the reliability of the manuscripts. Which is a different topic altogether.
Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 8:52am On Sep 25, 2023
Maynman:
Yes, you yourself are also the boss's son and not only one Jewish boy.

You are it too.
🤣😂
Show me where any Jewish sect believed in the name of the FATHER, the SON, and the HOLY SPIRIT.
otherwise shut up.

Showing me 'in the name of the Lord'
Joker.

See Didache has finished u. The embarrassment is too much.
Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 8:30am On Sep 25, 2023
Maynman:
Go look up Hypotases.

Keep living in your land of make believe.
Do you really understand what hypostasis mean in theology.

So John the Baptist or any Jewish sect believed in hypostatic union.

Seriously!!!! Do u even know what u saying at all!!!

Even some Christian sect don't believe in hypostasis
Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 8:17am On Sep 25, 2023
Maynman:
Send me a link where he copied book of mattew or any person apart from you not necessarily a scholar saying such jargons.
This is Bart Erhman.
Didache is knocking reality into people's brain.

Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 7:55am On Sep 25, 2023
Maynman:
Send me a link to This
Eucharist cheesy
It's the Didache, go and read it.
Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 6:41am On Sep 25, 2023
Maynman:
I have, the book didn't even mention any apostle names, it belongs to one of the jewish sects, so send me a link where you getting your Jargons.

.
Jewish sect using a scripture that mentioned the name of Jesus Christ.
Jewish sect using a scripture that quoted from the gospel of Mathew 6.9-15
Dey play....the lid is finally coming off.
Laslas na Didache go format that your corrupt brain.

Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15:
Maynman:
Meanwhile, look up hemerobaptism, another jewish sects, the word "christian" didn't exist in first century.
Keep living in your land of make believe.
So John the Baptist was baptising in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit!!!
Wonders shall never end.
Didache must knock sense into your head by fire by force.

Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 12:42am On Sep 25, 2023
Maynman:
Read what you posted 😂

Post link where you read didache contain book of mattew, which Christian writer use it in first century.

The word "Christian" didn't even exist in first century.

Keep living in your land of make believe, fact is there, you don't need to believe it.
Go and look for the book of Didache online. Stop hiding behind one finger.
Laslas u go dey alright.

Meanwhile, look at what some people were reciting in the 1st century AD when there was 'no christian'
I will use Didache to reset your brain.

Christianity EtcRe: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 12:34am On Sep 25, 2023
guysbewise:
A very BIG coincidence! And all of father Papias writings are lost
Father Papias of herapolis works survived deep into the mid first millennium CE

cc Maynman

Christianity EtcRe: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 12:21am On Sep 25, 2023
Maynman:
Mental psychosis.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn9OBhbRlQc?si=Zmz7zM2Ztru4Qtjn
Go and look for the book of Didache and read it.
That's the assignment I gave u.
Until then u are best ignored.
Christianity EtcRe: ******************************** by SIRTee15:
guysbewise:
Here is the work of
Philo Judeas Born: 25 BC, Alexandria, Egypt, in the Roman province of Egypt, was a Hellenistic Jewish philosopher who was around during the time of Jesus Christ, during His ministry and after the ministry of Jesus Christ.
He did not write about the invented jesus christ. But had this to write instead:

Philo Judeas wrote about Caesar Augustus Rome’s Greatest Emperor, in the eastern roman empire was claimed to being god's anointed one and the son of god.

The account of the birth of Caesar Augustus in Rome also has some similarities to that of the invented jesus christ. So the Jews are correct that the Jewish Messiah has not yet come.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=limDa2wNmKg
U wondering why philo wrote about Augustus but not Jesus.

Seriously are u comparing Jesus to Augustus in their contemporary times.
Like seriously!!!!

Did Philo write about other jewish Messiah claimants in the early first century.
Did he write about Judas of gamala
Did he write about Theudas the zealot.

These men were popular amongst the Jews, they raised army and fought against the Roman occupation around 1-50 AD to prove their messianic claim.
What did your historian Philo write about them?


Philo died in AD 50, so would be very much aware of the riots and rebellion against roman authority that rocked the whole of judea in the early first century AD.

Did he write about the zealots that pioneered the revolution. The zealots were blamed for the first Jewish- roman war.
Even the bible mentioned one of Jesus disciple was called Simon the zealot just to show u the impact this movement had at that period.

Did Philo report about the execution of Judas's sons, James and Simon by procurator Tiberius Julius Alexander in about 46 CE. James and Simon were fierce nationalists who caused the people to revolt when Quirinius came to take an account of the estates of the Jews.

Did Philo write about Pontus Pilate and the massacre of the Samaritans led by their Messiah like figure Dositheus in AD 37. Philo was very much alive and active that time, u can't tell me he didn't hear about it because that action led to the removal of Pontus Pilate as governor of judea.

Philo didn't even write about John the Baptist who was more popular than Jesus during his time.

So Philo wrote about Roman figures in Rome but never bothered to write about jews living in Judea
Yet some expected him to write about a pacifist whose ministry was restricted to Galilee and never stirred much trouble with Roman authorities.

So much for how people search for missing clues.
Christianity EtcRe: ******************************** by SIRTee15:
guysbewise:
Here is the work of
Philo Judeas Born: 25 BC, Alexandria, Egypt, in the Roman province of Egypt, was a Hellenistic Jewish philosopher who was around during the time of Jesus Christ, during His ministry and after the ministry of Jesus Christ.
He did not write about their invented jesus christ. But had this to write instead:

Philo Judeas wrote about Caesar Augustus Rome’s Greatest Emperor, in the eastern roman empire was claimed to being god's anointed one and the son of god.

The account of the birth of Caesar Augustus in Rome also has some similarities to that of the invented jesus christ. So the Jews are correct that the Jewish Messiah has not yet come.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=limDa2wNmKg
U dont understand my question do u?

I'm asking u for the earliest copy of the works of any ancient writer or figure.
Since u picked on Philo, tell me what is the oldest copy of philo's text that we have with us today.
Or do we have any of his original autographs written by him.
What is the oldest copy of any text we have today that mentioned Philo.

That's what I'm asking for, not a copy of his works.
These copies could be forgery for all we care if we don't have a consistent chain of narration of the works that can be traced back to the original author.

Or is that not u guys demand of jesus?
Christianity EtcRe: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 8:26pm On Sep 24, 2023
guysbewise:
I will start with father Papias,. Why are all his writings lost but later Christians were referencing him?

Father Clement could be any Catholic priest today so you need to give more info so that we can research about him too.
If u want to go to into lost writings u had better start showing me the original writings or earliest works of Plato, Socrates, julius caeser, Aristotle et Al
Otherwise u don't have a point.

I'm talking about father Clement, one of the apostolic fathers.
Read about him online, I can't be repeating myself up and down.
Christianity EtcRe: ******************************** by SIRTee15: 7:54pm On Sep 24, 2023
guysbewise:
Earliest writings of the invented jesus christ, started from around ad 95 by the Jewish historian who help the Roman empire to invent jesus christ. None of them saw the invented jesus christ. The stories we heard of Oyenusi was that bullets could not penetrate his body that they had the remove a pot from his belly to remove his power, even my mature teacher told me this in form 4. But careful research now show that such never happened.

116 AD: Tacitus (c. 56-120 AD): Tacitus was a Roman historian who mentioned Jesus in his work "Annals," written around 116 AD. He referred to Jesus in the context of the Roman Emperor Nero's persecution of Christians following the Great Fire of Rome in 64 AD.

112 AD: Pliny the Younger (c. 61-113 AD): Pliny the Younger was a Roman magistrate and writer. In a letter to the Roman Emperor Trajan dated around 112 AD, he mentioned early Christian practices and their worship of Christ. This letter provides insight into the growth of Christianity in the early 2nd century.
So tell me who was father Clement and father Papias.
PoliticsRe: See The Man Who Wants To Redefine Christianity (Pic) by SIRTee15: 6:51pm On Sep 24, 2023
khalling2008:
Take me and let see now, you don't have anything to say than to insult. Christianity is a pagan religion if you doubt me, show me where Christmas was perform in the Bible by Jesus Christ?
Go thru my posts first and see if u have what it takes to enter the ring.
I dont have that time to waste.
So many empty heads nowadays.
Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 6:48pm On Sep 24, 2023
Maynman:
Then go and read it.

Papias met Zeus too
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0125.htm
Papias met John my friend, an apostle of Christ.
He also met the daughters of Philip.

Didache contains the book of Mathew and was used by Christian writers in the 1st century.

Saying there were no Christians in first century AD is very stupid.

Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 3:29pm On Sep 24, 2023
Maynman:
Send me link where you read yours, same way you sent me the papais link stating that he didn't hear from any apostle. grin
Didache manuscripts is all over the internet.
Papias met John.
Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by SIRTee15: 2:24pm On Sep 24, 2023
jaephoenix:
1. Trying to take control of one's destiny, does not mean one can actually control such destiny.
Even your own dictionary meaning clearly stated destiny is predetermined(irrespective of what you do)
2. About chatgpt, u didn't even know anything about it. You were just blabbing on that thread.
3. So when someone quotes another person word for word, its not verbatim?
Mr Man, the keyword here is dictate. Don't skip it.
Were the scribes/prophets writing what God dictated to them verbatim?

Christianity EtcRe: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by SIRTee15: 2:07pm On Sep 24, 2023
jaephoenix:
1. Trying to take control of one's destiny, does not mean one can actually control such destiny.
Even your own dictionary meaning clearly stated destiny is predetermined(irrespective of what you do)
2. About chatgpt, u didn't even know anything about it. You were just blabbing on that thread.
3. So when someone quotes another person word for word, its not verbatim?
1. Learn the difference btw fate n destiny

Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 1:59pm On Sep 24, 2023
Maynman:
Keep living in your land of make believe.
Seems u out of gas.
Go and read about Didache manuscripts from your conspiracy junk sites, then come back and discuss.
Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 12:13pm On Sep 24, 2023
sonmvayina:
Who are they?

So one evidence for the existence of Okonkwo Ebubedike is chinua Achibe...

Tell me some body who actually saw him and what he said about him...

Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 9:52am On Sep 24, 2023
Maynman:
I meant your false claims.

"Did you just discover this or can you send me another person not necessarily a scholar agreeing with you"
What false claim
What did I just discover
PoliticsRe: See The Man Who Wants To Redefine Christianity (Pic) by SIRTee15: 2:55am On Sep 24, 2023
khalling2008:
Instead of you to make research on the allegation about Christianity as a pagan religion, you are here to abuse Remo Okri.
Let me help you with this site and see things for yourself;
https://www.ucg.org/vertical-thought/paganism-in-christianity

https://www.publishersweekly.com/9781594770968

From the Jewish perspective, Christianity is a pagan religion. For several reasons:

Concept of Trinity. (One cannot dissect God, please)- a Pagan borrowing;

Concept of the “Original Sin” - a Pagan borrowing;

Concept of a “Eternal Punishment for our misdeeds during life” - a Pagan borrowing;

Concept of someone’s death to redeem sins of someone else - a Pagan borrowing;

Concept of “resurrection” after being dead for a few days - a Pagan borrowing;

The holidays, saints, relics in the Orthodoxy especially … all Pagan, not even worth mentioning.
Shut up.
If I chose to take u on the nonsense u wrote, u will fail woefully.
Learn to mins your own business
Christianity EtcRe: Did The Roman Empire Invent Christianity? Answers By Chatgpt by SIRTee15: 12:33am On Sep 24, 2023
Maynman:
Did you just discovdr this or can yoi send md another person not necessarily a scholar agreeing with you.

You are living in a land of make believe.
Didache was discovered in 1876.
Check my previous post. I've made reference to it multiple times

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