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Good development only if:

1. He used his money to buy it for them and not the state's fund and tax payers money.

2. He bought them from Innoson.

Any thing contrary to this is unacceptable.

June 12 cannot be democracy day. When Abiola's election victory was shattered, did we receive the dividend of democracy?
Stop trying to impose june 12 on the masses, impose it on the south west for all I care. Till today, there is and have never been a democracy day. What is democracy without its dividend? May 29 and June 12 are fake. I still buy fuel for my generator, I still make use of torch at night, I sometimes enter boats in a commercial road like ejigbo, so what democracy are talking about?
To me, we never had a democracy and wouldn't have had even if it was June 12. That day was only an attempt. June 12 is a south-western public holiday, while May 29 is a fake democratic celebration mostly celebrated by the high and mighty in the Nigerian community.

Please do. I don't see any thing, like say Vision or Revelation. But last night was the 1st time I saw something and I pray it never happens. Am not doing this to gain any form of attention but to share what I saw in my dream last night and that is why am here.

In the dream, what was shown to me was "Breaking news, ........... Governor of ......... State, Mr. ........... Is dead" and it was in a newspaper. Though I was given the name of the governor and state but I don't want to disclose it online as not to be labelled something else.

I never saw the date on the Newspaper so I can not say when and what period. All that was shown to me is that a sitting governor of a state in our Country died.

Like I said, I have never seen any form or slightest possible form of vision in my life before but I don't know how this came to me. All my prayer is that this Dream never comes to pass in Jesus name. Amen! Cos the Governor given in the dream is a governor to be really missed if anything happens.

Take your minds off the South-west and North-central but put all the Governors in prayer.

Thanks for your Audience.

Can't the parents get the properties? Or she had no cash at hand?

Reasons best known to them. Goldie R.I.P, if this would make you happy wherever you are, then who am I to oppose or ask Questions? Nice Name for an NGO.

To the Topic straight. Its not bad to own a private jet but its a Crime to own more than 3 jets in Nigeria with the Standard of living of those in the country, and to the fact that they worship with you.

Me really don't like when people love to show off wealth(not accusing anyone now, just addressing the general public). Later someone would want to be richer than Dangote after buying jets upon jets. Dangote has just a jet and that's why he is always on top. Sell ur multiple jets and see how much u would worth when the money is put into business or someone's welfare. Its a lifetime investment.

Back to the Topic, Hon. Pastor, in what way are we talking about cos it seems I didn't comprehend what you have said!

As long as what the young man has done is a big offence, I don't like the way we handle things in this country. He might even end up dead in cell while awaiting trial. The question is:

Will he be given plea bargain when on trail? Cos he hasn't stolen 4rm the public.

Will he be on house arrest after found guilty by the court? That's if he ever gets to court.

We know the real thieves, so until they are being handled appropriately, I pick no offence against petty thieves and drug smugglers since its got nothing to do with Public fund.

Indeed it takes a brave mind to remain in the north but everything has its elastic minute. We Igbos are taking this "one Nigeria" stuff too far. We forget about Biafra or even Southern Nigeria to say the least and keep thinking one Nigeria when we see and know that every Region keep telling us "go back to your land" after all we have set up. The word alone shows that we are never ONE and can never be.

R.I.P to the dead. But lemme be quick to state, "Ndigbo biko rapunu Ugu-hausa", no matter how hard it would be, try to leave. I have left after the 1st bomb and now am getting back on my feet gradually through God that strengthens me.

As much as I don't like what happened, let me be quick to say that "STATE PARDON" is in our constitution and in thuis same constitution, it was stated that the President has the right to grant state pardon to any individual, no matter the crime commited. How do we explain that? When we called for constitution ammendment, a sitting state governor has the effontry to say that we don't need it, that we need a change of attitude. If that constitution had been ammended, then GEJ couldn't have been able to grant Alamieyeseigha that Pardon. Besides, what's the fear about? We say we are wise now and yet afraid that Alams might win Senate. Don't your vote count? Gosh!

We are getting there. Am gonna be there soon. How many of una know me?

I don't usually get this kind of feeling of Break ups but Today it has really affected me a lot I have to scream for it.

Any one that still have Hope or still believes in this "one Nigeria" bullshit is nothing but a "Humanity hater". How can we call ourselves human and still support a union where the husband burns the wife with an iron on a daily basis?

Am sick and tired of this and it inturns makes me hit on anyone that has ever opened his mouth to tell me about Amnesty to these so called Islamic groups that keeps taking lives they can not give. Today wae heard of a bomb blast in Nigeria's former most populous state(though disputed) killing 26. Ever heard of a white lie? The figure is what I call a white lie.

We keep on saying "we are on top of the situation" and giving figures like every thing is alright while its not. If you have ever been to kano before or lived there, you would notice what am trying to prove here.

The New road bus park is the general park where vehicles moving down to the south of Nigeria boards. The park alone on a day that is not busy, has almost 1000 people within its vicinity. According to our social media, 5 buses were involved and those buses were loaded to be on their way to lagos.

Lemme give a detail description of everything according to my uncle that ius presently there now. 3 Gobison buses and 2 Ezennwata buses were burnt completely and other buses affected. The 5 buses were fully loaded and about to leave when the explosives exploded. A luxury bus has a carrying capacity of 50-65 people at a go. Making a total of 250-325 people involved. The manager in charge of gobison at the park was seriously injured and is presently at the hospital. I haven't added those around the buses to the equation yet.

At the end of the day, the social media would say "30" were killed while knowing truly well that over 200 were killed. This attack today is more deadlier than the former that left 185 dead( as social media said o0). I came to thius forum to correct that ascertion. It was more than 185 cos I was at the morgues the next day and my eyes were filled with tears. Each morgue has a capacity of 250 but on that day, all the 4 morgues of kano were filled with dead bodies on the floor. What do we gain in reducing the casualty figures and claiming to be one when we are not?

On my own opinion, division is best for Nigeria. We are two different kinds of people and we are immiscible(allow me to use that). Let the nation divide and the North goes their way, the south also. If the north feels like to continue bombing, then its at their own risk.

On the issue of Amnesty, how can it be given to such a group that has done so much harm and destruction. Those killed won't be raised, would they? So of what use is the amnesty to us giving it?

Infact I rest my case cos if I continue, it won't finish today. That is how I feel, don't know about you fellow Nlanders.

[quote author=Oga@TheTop][/quote]Me don't want to say one now, later my Oga@the top would say another

I know its a very difficult thing if not impossible but there is always a 1% probability and if eventually INEC registers the three(3) APC's, which party would you go for against PDP as you need a change and revolution?

APC1=All Progressives Congress

APC2=Africans People Congress

APC3=All Patriotic Citizens

The APC1 has Buhari and Tinubu e.t.c(The names sometimes steers controversies among NLanders though some has maintained they want them.)

The APC2 has Chief Onyinye Ikeagwuonu as national chairman(I saw comments of NLanders on a topic where the chief made his first speech, seems some thinks they succumb with him)

The APC3 is what I have not laid my hands on any info about them.

One of his buildings as it was said. I thought it was his family home. Well, its good though, a politician to forgo a pin of his for development? Nice, even though we know that it would be built back from public fund.

Has fashola ever for gone a pin of his to his demolition and development in lagos state? What his praisers would say is "his house or properties has never fell in such areas".

But with all this, it never stopped my mind from thinking that Rochas move to APC is a bad one and for a selfish reason.

Next year. I dun lost my voter's card o0, i fit get another one?

The interior nice wella but to the topic, Akpabio loves luxury and it doesn't fit him right now as a governor. He should wait to leave office first before acquiring them.

LAGOS — Outrage, yesterday, greeted the rumoured state pardon granted former Bayelsa State Governor, Diepreye Alamieyeseigha, and former head, Bank of the North, Shettima Bulama, by President Goodluck Jonathan as Nigerians described it as a shame and a set back to the fight against corruption in the country.

This came as Governor Murtala Nyako of Adamawa State who spoke in Hausa to some journalists at the end of the closed door meeting of the Council of State said the Council did not discuss the issue of amnesty to adherents of Jama’atul Ahlus Sunnah Lid da’awati wal Jihad, otherwise known as Boko Haram, and other convicts, saying such would have raised political tension in the country.

Others who were rumoured to have also beengranted state pardon include late former Chief of Staff, Supreme Military Council, and brother of the late President, Major -General Shehu Musa Yar’Adua; former Chief of General Staff, General Oladipo Diya; Major Bello Magaji (rtd); Mohammed Lima Biu; Major-General Abdulkareem Adisa (post humous) and Major Segun Fadipe (rtd).

For more, visit;

.http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/03/rumoured-pardon-for-alams-others-sparks-outrage/

In the words of Nyako himself, see the quote below;

We didn’t discuss issue of state pardon —Nyako

“We didn’t discuss the issue of amnesty to Boko Haram adherents. It could be controversial to raise such issues. What needs to be done is for the matter to be extensively deliberated before a universal decision is brought into public domain,” Governor Nyako said.

He refuted stories making the round that theformer Governor of Bayelsa State, Mr. Diepreye Alamieyeseigha was granted state pardon by the Council. Instead, he said the Council deliberated on the possibility of granting state clemency to certain category of offenders both at state and federal levels.
According to him, “no such issue (pardon for erring governors) was discussed. I didn’t see the name of any governor. But we considered the issue of state pardon for people who committed certain offences.

“We observed that in cases of manslaughter, pardon for such should be handled by state governors if they are committed in such states. But if it is the case of armed robbery the Council may decide to grant pardon or the matter could be referred to the President for his consideration.”

eGuerrilla: @Slizbeat, you are on a hiding to none here, I am sorry.
However you choose to spin this retrogressive decision, the buck ultimately stops with the President.



Source

Pay close attention to clause (3) and you will understand where the remit for the council of state, which is no more than an advisory body, begins and ends.

Of course I noted clause (3). They as a an advisory body couldn't give a useful advice to the one who executes the rights to pardon. If they had, wouldn't alams still be an ex-convict by now?

To me, its never about who executes but who gave advices to the executors. When a president fails, then he has bad advisers and therefore the entire government is blamed, not just the president, and so needs to reshuffle his cabinet.

[quote author=Mr. Garri.]*Yawns*[/quote]You need to. Hehe

[quote author=Mr. Garri.]Nonsense!!!

There's no way anyone can extricate GEJ from this....

[/quote]I personally wasn't calling for his vindication cos he is also among the members of the council of state. What I was calling for was to reduce the media hype by implicating all other members starting from the V.P to the AGF for making such as rash decision that was uncalled for.

Popcorn on my hand already.

Political fanatics would soon flood the thread.

[quote author=jjc-to-nl]And who do you think you are deceiving?

They all came to rubber stamp his proposal. QED[/quote]And why did they rubber stamp his proposal? Don't they know when to say YES and when to say NO? That means they all are integral materials of corruption.

It seems like GEJ haters has written it on their foreheads that any thing about politics and the government that appears bad be blamed on GEJ.

Now I would educate you on what "Council of state" means.

The Council of State is a unique governmental body in a country or subdivision thereof, though its nature may range from the formal name for the cabinet to a non-executive advisory body surrounding a head of state. It is sometimes (arguably erroneously) regarded as the equivalent of a privy council
For more, see the page below:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_State

Now, for what the Nigerian Council of State means and its composition, see the quote below;

The Nigerian Council of State is an organ of the Nigerian Government. Its functions include advising the executive on policy making.

Composition

The Council of State consists of the following persons:

*. President , who is the Chairman;

*. Vice-President , who is the Deputy Chairman;

*. All former Presidents of the Federation and all former Heads of the Government of the Federation;

*. All former Chief Justices of Nigeria;

*. President of the Senate ;

*. Speaker of the House of Representatives;

*. All the Governors of the states of the Federation; and

*. Attorney-General of the Federation.
For more details, see the page below;

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_State_(Nigeria)

So as much as I don't agree with what happened, I as much as I can try not rain abuse on any one who so ever. Why I just posted this here was some delusional humans that see nothing else than criticising GEJ in person to know the difference between "GOODLUCK EBELE JONATHAN" and "COUNCIL OF STATE"

This shows that it wasn't a one man decision but a collective one made by both the state governments and former heads of state still living.

Get things right, assimilate what you saw, reason it and then comment other than just moving straight to GEJ is this, or that.

Thanks.

PointB: Well Oga Slizbeat, that vision of Sir Ahmadu Bello for Nigeria is widely reported. Google can be of great service in case you want to read it from different sources. Here is a more detailed post of his vision for Nigeria as reported:


In the Parrot Newspaper, October 12, 1960, Sir Ahmadu Bello said, [size=16pt]“The new nation called Nigeria should be an estate of our great grandfather, Othman Dan Fodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We use the minorities in the north as willing tools and the south as a conquered territory and never allow them to rule over us and never allow them have control over their future”.[/size]

Mehn, I never knew o0. The hearts of these northern elites is more dangerous than that of the Devil. "Never allow them have control over their future", the reverse will be the case.

Ok let's say it. There is no big deal in electing our grand father as president but when will you all realise that we don't want him there?

Simple and short, we want a younger person. Buhari was there when Nigeria went array and all those while, he has done nothing other than complaining that election was rigged. Is it bad to add to your country while not a president? If he has the interest of Nigerians at hand, then he should get the picture clear that we don't want him in aso rock but he can also make himself useful by adding to the welfare of the people outside the governmental arms rather than inciting violence.

Nigerians’ penchant for foreign goods and services fell by 43 percent in 2012, according to figures released by National Bureau of Statistics, NBS, Monday.
The figures showed a sharp decrease in the value of imports from N9.8926 trillion in 2011 to N 5.6249 trillion in 2012, a decreaseof 43.1 percent. NBS, in an online statement said there was an increase of 15.5 percent inthe value of exports from N19.4404 trillion in2011 to N 22.4463 trillion in 2012.
The statement said: “The increase in the value of exports contributed immensely to the visible trade balance of N16.8214 trillion recorded in 2012. This was a contrast to the visible trade balance of N 9.5477 trillion recorded in 2011.
“The crude oil component of total trade increased by N1.596.0 trillion or 11 percent, over the level recorded in 2011. The structure of Nigeria’s export is still determined by crude oil export. The contribution of crude oil to the value of total domestic export trade amounted to N15.5319 trillion or 69.2 percent in 2012.
“Summary of Nigeria’s export by section revealed that the highest export product of Nigeria in 2012 was mineral products, which accounted for N18.868 trillion or 84.1 percent.
“Other products that contributed immensely to Nigeria’s export includes plastic, rubber and articles, prepared foodstuffs, beverages, spirits and vinegar, tobacco, whose values stood at N1.5999 trillion or 7.1 percent and N764.2 billion or 3.0 percent of the total exports of Nigeria during the period under review.
“Details of Nigeria’s exports to various continents of the world showed that European countries are the highest consumer of Nigeria’s export.”http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/03/nigerians-taste-for-foreign-goods-falls/

firstolalekan: north Korea, Iran and pakistan will finish US and the wicked [b]Isreal. watch...[/b]

The entire world against Israel is already a failed war. Israel has been blessed right from the days of old. What makes you think it would change now?

This post that has much to debate has not yet gotten to NL FP, why?



And if I may ask, where are the ACN 40laptop men? Were they all banned? Come out and defend Mr. Lai na?

The table is beginning to turn around and is much more visible that ACN is BOKO HARAM using medium of bombs to frustrate the present PDP administration out of office so that the people of Nigeria would feel like PDP is not un top of the situation and inturn bring our minds to ACN or APC come 2015.

Just like last week when Jonathan visited Borno and a northern Leader was bold and stupid enough to ask Jonathan to remove JTF from the state so as to return it to peace. The same JTF keeping the state at peace is what they want removed, then I wonder what will happen when they are gone.

Well, I love Mr. President's reply. He said "If the government removes JTF from the state at this stage, any other Crises in the state would be on the heads of the Borno leaders". What a nice response, mark it now so as not to shout later.

ONITSHA — Ahead of the appeal filed by ousted national chairman of All Progressive Grand Alliance, Chief Victor Umeh contesting his sack by Enugu High Court, the Governor Peter Obi-led faction of the party, Saturday, in Awka, resolved to conduct ward, local government and state congresses and convene national convention to elect a new national chairman on April 30.

Enugu High Court recently sacked Umeh on account that the national convention that returned him as national chairman by voice vote at a convention held in Awka was illegal.
This is coming on the heels of a pronouncement by the Independent NationalElectoral Commission, INEC, that Governor Peter Obi of Anambra State had no constitutional powers, as entrenched in APGA constitution, to conduct ward, local government and state congresses as well as national convention.

According to INEC, it is only the national chairman that has the power to carry out such an exercise.
But rising from a crucial meeting of the South East and South South geo- political zones, leaders and stakeholders of the party said the decision to hold the congresses and convention next month was to enable APGA prepare and replace an APGA governor at Awka Government House in the scheduled November 16, 2013 governorship election.

Speaking on the occasion, chairman of the APGA Stakeholders’ Forum, Chief Sylvester Nwobu-Alor, urged the interim national leadership of the party, led by Mr. Maxi Okwu, to accommodate all aggrieved members in the on-going restructuring and reorganisation of the party.
”APGA is an Igbo umbrella party. We should bring everybody on board. I advise you to disregard media reports that Chief Victor Umeh has gone on appeal over the Enugu High Court judgment that sacked him.”
“You should also disregard statements by some disgruntled elements who are not evenmembers of the party,” he said.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/03/obi-insists-on-apgas-congresses-national-convention-against-inecs-stand/

Now I am beginning to see things in a different perspective about ACN. Why should the presidency give amnesty to a ghost? Do they know or have ever seen boko haram? All we hear is that they have captured members of the sect that obviously we don't know who they are and here ACN is calling it illogical. Say NO to any government that negotiates with a Terrorist group fighting for no cause.

The Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) said President Goodluck Jonathan’s tactless show during his belated visit to Borno and Yobe States last week has worsened the Boko Haram insurgency that has killed and maimed hundreds of innocent people, especially in the two states.

In a statement issued in Lagos on Monday byits National Publicity Secretary, Alhaji Lai Mohammed, the party also said while the decision to grant amnesty to any person or group is the prerogative of the government, the argument advanced by the President for denying amnesty to Boko Haram members is as illogical as it is puerile.

It said for a President who has unwisely stayed away from the beleaguered part of the country for too long, last week’s visit onlysucceeded in inflicting additional pain and insults on the victims of the insurgency, who could have used a little dose of succour and empathy from their leader.

”There is no doubt that there has been an upsurge in attacks and killings since the President’s visit, with the clashes between the JTF and the insurgents leaving many dead, drive-by shooting in Kano claiming the lives of innocent people and the unfortunate killing of foreign hostages who were abducted last month in Bauchi.

”If this upsurge can be used as a barometer to measure the success or otherwise of the President’s visit, then one can only reach oneconclusion: The visit is a total failure!” ACN said

The party also expressed shock at the way the President, openly displaying anger when what was needed was temperance, talked down on the people, who have suffered so much in the hands of Boko Haram, at his town hall meetingsIt said the misplaced anger of the nation’s number one citizen, who virtually tongue-lashed the prominent citizens who spoke on behalf of their people at the town hall meeting, can only attract sympathy for the insurgents among the beleaguered population, thereby worsening the crisis.
”The President wanted to appear tough in dealing with the Boko Haram insurgents. There is no problem with that, except that hedirected his anger at the wrong people, the same people who have been victimized by Boko Haram.
This is called double whammy,” the party said.

On the President’s argument that amnesty cannot be granted to ”ghosts”, ACN said he simply missed the mark.

”If the President claims that Boko Haram members are ghosts, who then are the members of Boko Haram that the JTF regularly claims to have arrested or killed? Does it mean the 52 Boko Haram members that the JTF claimed to have killed, in its latest press release dated March 9th 2013, are actually ghosts?

”What about the Boko Haram members that are being tried in court? Could the government have been trying ghosts?
And what about those Boko Haram members who were declared wanted last year? Are they also ghosts? Also, the government’s spokesmen have said publicly that the government is talking with Boko Haram through back-channels.
So the Jonathan Administration has indeed been talking to ghosts?

”Mr. President, there is nowhere in the world where insurgents have erected a headquarters building and put up a sign
to say ‘we are insurgents, come and get us.’ By their nature, insurgents don’t engage in amarch past, displaying their
weapons. That is why intermediaries are usedto reach out to them,” the party said.

ACN said while it strongly condemns the Boko Haram insurgents, their senseless killingof innocent people and attacks
on the security agents, it believes that the use of force is not the only option open to thegovernment to end the crisis.http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/03/jonathans-visit-to-bornoyobe-has-worsened-boko-haram-crisis-acn/

He is not far from the truth. Ishiaku Rabiu I know is damn to rich, Adenuga no see I'm back bt because their source of wealth can't be ascertained, they r nt recognised.

Now the thing is, if we claim to be one Nigeria, then northerners owning oil blocs down south shouldn't be our problem. Shebi being a Nigerian, u r free to own properties anywhere inside Nigeria abi? Let the case rest.

It seems that most us, deep down inside our hearts, we aint Nigerians.