₦airaland Forum

Jack500:
Keep fooling yourself, so no one voted for him?

You ibos should Sha try nonsense, 1967 will be a child's play

Let's avoid such inflammatory rhetoric please. This is uncalled for.

Vitally123:
And means : 1. 2. plus .....
a, b, c, d. plus...additional

Wole, John, James, Ngo, Timi, Musa, Eno, Ese plus...additional.

Is it now clear to you? Abegi, get sense ooo.

24 states and ...Abuja-Nigeria. Is it now clear to you? Abeg, get small sense!!!

What are you on about? If I said go and bring 11 boys from SS1 and SS2, how many boys will you bring?
I don't have the energy to debate with your likes. You can take it or leave it.

Shocked a SAN is arguing like this. By the analysis he has posted up there, the word AND is held to be conjunctive (which is ordinary English). So what does conjunctive mean as opposed to disjunctive in this context?

kollinzgee:
To gain admission into a university you must have at least 5 credits in five subjects with math and english.
Saying tinubu won the election withoue 25% in fct means you are saying you just need 5credits wthout maths and english to gain admission.

But what does this have to do with anything? Does the Constitution say you should win 25% of 2/3 states with the FCT or does it say 25% of 2/3 of states and the FCT?

These are two very different statements.

TimiRume:
It is well. The battle isn't over yet but victory is ours. Utilising every means to possess our mandate is inevitable. We must keep pushing because we are on the side of truth


P.s: My first post wasn't for you sir, I wanted to quote the guy above you.

You know by now you should have realized your leaders know the truth. Delay in uploading materials cannot automatically equal rigging. Such an argument will never be accepted by any Court.

a. You will have to prove the rigging by showing your figures. The results collected by your party agents.

b. You will then have to prove that the scale of difference would be enough to alter the course of the elections.

That LP and PDP have joined together despite each one claiming to have been the real winner shows that they have no proof. Otherwise, would they be presenting contrary evidence before the Court?

Moreover, this is why the dispute has been reduced to a single issue: non-electronic transmission of results. Will the Courts accept such an argument? No. Because it is based on a misunderstanding of what the law provides.

That is the reason your man has not yet come out to address the public. He has sent his VP to do all the talking. In a few days he will come out and say he is accepting the results for the sake of peace, while laying the blame with INEC.

Let's observe.

Viicfuntop:
You’re doing it again. Presidential is gone. Sanwo has done nothing in Lagos. Is it the train? Please let’s stop demarketing other candidates and let people vote who they want. Thank you. I am really looking forward to a change in Lagos

But I didn't demarket him. I literally said I like Rhodes. He's young, well educated and articulate.

I'm making only making a point about the person i support, who is Sowore. But I understand how my comment could have been seen otherwise.

Out of respect for your feelings on this subject, I will refrain from making similar comments on Rhodes, going forward.

Cool?

Ournolly:
But your overlord has been doing so for over 30 years now.

What happened to the rising star of the Nigerian politics, Funsho Williams? A Lagos indigene, intelligent and compassionate leader loved by all?

This is the time to support GRV, the Architect of the New Lagos.
It's unacceptable to suppress Lagos indigenes.
Let's put hand together and elect the indigene of Lagos as the governor of the state for the first time ever!

GRV is young, handsome, intelligent and educated (he's MIT graduate).
He is competent, humble and approachable.
And most of all, he doesn't have and will never have godfather.

Vote for GRV, the architect of the New Lagos.

If we say vote Sowore, you will say he has no experience. Now you want Lagosians to dump Sanwo Olu who has done well for an untested young man.

I have no issues with that. I like Rhodes. But same should apply to Sowore.

Viicfuntop:
I do not understand your last paragraph but that’s by the way.
For some reason I do not know, I’m following you here which means we have most likely had a back and forth in the last three years.

You said sowore has changed. Do you know him personally? So he has had a change of heart according to you which you saw through the media. Do you really think he is a changed man because of what you saw on tv?
I wasn’t on earth during Buhari’s first rule but reading and listening to his history was enough to not support his election in 2015.
I think a lot of of you neutral people here really harmed Peter Obi’s candidacy. You have no candidate but you kept on demarketing a particular one.
Honestly I’m probably saying this from an emotional state. I was ready to settle for Atiku. Tinubu winning this election goes against everything I stand for. I literally went through a few of your comments and you kept vilifying this Man only.
His lies? What lies? Common. It’s all good

The particular aspect of Sowore that changed was his support for Buhari. I don't need to know him personally to know that he has been opposed to Buhari.

Other than this, he has remained the revolutionary that we all know.

Now, I see that you're one of those who really believed Obi was here to turn Nigeria around so you may take my opposition to him to heart.

But you must understand that I don't see him the way you do so it's nothing personal.

And as to the volume of my anti-Obi comments, really i've always had an issue with Obidients not particularly Peter Obi because his rivals are not saints either. Till the last moment i considered voting for him though i finally didn't.

I confront Obidients, not to attack Obi per se, but so that they won't get away with steam rolling over other people. That's it.

If you look well enough you will see that I have criticized all the 3 major candidates but Obi supporters are a bigger target because they are the loudest and were quite aggressive. By a rule of my own nature, i am always inclined to stand up to such people.

Take heart, and hope for the best.

Viicfuntop:
I have come across comments of you being critical of Peter Obi. Going by your logic up there, you’re basically saying the perception you had of Peter Obi stays the same but Sowero who became critical of buhari’s government is redeemed

My opinion of Peter Obi stays the same because he has never recanted his wrong deeds. Everytime he is confronted he lies or seeks to excuse it. Not once has he said oh I got this wrong and that is something I'm looking to change when I become president. So if he hasn't changed why would my opinion of him change?

Sowore on the other hand changed first before my opinion of him changed. It's that simple.

Secondly, don't you think there is a critical difference between supporting one candidate whom you erroneously believed to be a good man, and actually doing bad things yourself?

Strafudeen:
This is a victory that is not worth the paper it was written on.

By inec refusing to show transparency, this man tinubu is already carrying a heavy baggage of illegitimacy.

His vote haul is only about 30percent of the total votes cast votes...30 percent. Even with all the irregularities. This means the majority of Nigerians didn't elect him....that's a big issue for a leader

So which leader were the majority of Nigerians going to elect? Yes, you have pointed out a real problem, but it is a problem with Nigeriaas s country not any one particular person.

So they won't visit Sowore?

Viicfuntop:
But this same sowore campaigned for Buhari

We're allowed to make mistakes. The question is, do we persist with mistakes or we change once we realize our errror?

Dennixe001:
I am a court registrar and I am 100% sure this is a sweet case for any lawyer to handle for Obi.

Get your popcorn and watch events unfold. Obi knows how to reclaim every stolen mandate. Ask any Anambra man.

I don't need to reply your insults, I know your ilks.

You're a silly man actually. You came at me with your nonsense curses and now talking about insults. lol.

Well, that wasn't an insult - you don't seem like someone who has found his purpose in life at your big age--which explains why you spend your days attacking people you don't know on Nairaland in the name of one man's ambition--so why use up our precious oxygen?

Anyway, as for Mr. Obi, if indeed his mandate was stolen I wish him all the best in the Courts.

Dennixe001:
Suddenly you have remembered you are a lawyer and knows the law. Please oga charge and bail lawyer, what did the law say about transmission of election results?

Since yesterday you have been mute on the debate on election transmission from the polling unit thru BVAS and suddenly ran out from your shell to come and start defending the indefensible.

The law must must be obeyed in totality or the entire exercise will be in futility. Nobody will spend all energies and resources only to come now and swallow a demonic excuse by INEC. Its not possible and no reasonable lawyer would be able to defend and win this anormally.

May your condition and that of your generation be like that of Tinubu health. Amen

Lol. Err can I help you??

Not that I owe you an explanation but do note:

1. I comment on topics that interest me.

2. It is obvious what the law says about electronic transmission. Has anyone here debated it? All that is left now is to go to Court. Are you waiting for me to comment before your party goes to Court?

3. If you want a legal opinion then get your lazy butt up, walk into a Chambers and pay the legal fees.

Are you even educated at all? To tell you the truth it's people like you Bill Gates is trying to kill off with his gmo's. Complete waste of oxygen.

NothingDoMe:
Huh? Your analogy makes no sense. If the law says 2/3 of states then 2/3 of states it is.

But the law went ahead to add: "And FCT"

That's the problem. Like I said earlier this is the first time a leading aspirant will fall short of the 25%. So this law has never been tested.

Let's see how it goes 😄

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/01/winning-fct-not-requirement-for-winning-presidency-falana/

When you lack technical knowledge, pay attention to those who know what they're talking about.

Hope you will be bold enough to come back and acknowledge this by the end of the day?

00FFT00:
Read Section 134 (2) of the constitution, pay attention to the word "And" contained therein.

Yes and what happened to the and therein? it operates as a plus sign, signifying that the two items are to be added. The requirement is therefore conjunctive.

You must understand the diction of the Constitution. The territories are always referred to conjunctively as the 36 States and FCT wherever reference is made to them.

NothingDoMe:
State the law. We debate a lot here without quoting the actual law.

Section 134 of the constitution states that a candidate will be declared winner of a presidential election if he has “(a) he has the majority of votes cast at the election; and (b) he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja

2/3 of the States and the FCT. It's in black and white. This is the first time a leading presidential candidate is falling short of the 25%.

Yes, indeed it's plain English.

"Go to the store and bring me 100 apples and oranges."

How many items will you bring back? 200?

As the day goes on it will be made clearer to you.

Derecho my friend, day done break. How far?

00FFT00:
You must secure 25% of the votes cast in 24 states and FCT to become president.

Tinubu FCT Score:

90902 / 478923 * 100 = 18,980.......

= 18.9%

Atiku FCT Score:

74199 / 478923 * 100 = 15,492.......

= 15.4%

Basis:

Section 134 (2) of the Nigerian constitution.

You must secure 25% of the votes cast in the FCT. Tinub and Atike failed to meet this requirement.

Wrong. The Law does not say you must win 25% in the States and then 25% of the FCT.

You must win 25% of the States and the FCT put together. Anyway you will understand better as the day goes on.

Bestmanfornow:
Section 134 of the Constitution provides as follows:

(1) A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have been duly elected, where, there being only two candidates for the election –

(a) he has the majority of votes cast at the election; and



(2) A candidate for an election to the office of President shall be deemed to have been duly elected where, there being more than two candidates for the election-

That provision does not mean you must win 25% in the FCT. It means you must win 25 of 2/3rds of all the territories in Nigeria - those territories are the 36 States and the FCT conjunctively.

BeardedmeatR:
Go and put your house in order.

You will have to defend your win.

You're hilarious. I don't have any particular interest in any particular candidate. But hey, listen: Labour Party is on twitter begging their party agents to send in their copies of their results.

Meaning, your people don't even have the basic evidence they're relying on in the first place. You'll be laughed out of court and exposed as unprepared to Nigerians.

So, good luck.

Ceenachi:
U made a reasonable point Mr. Burna boy but at this situation in Nigeria now, ur point is pointless,,,

If all the celebrities think this way,, then who will back the common citizens like us to have the courage to fight for our right?

Every Nigerian have a huge role to play in this particular election
Everyone's effort matters a lot now

There is a man who has fought for your rights from day one. He has gone to jail for you. He opposed Buhari in the early days when all your heroes were silent.

But you and your likes spat at him amd called him SUG president. His name is Omoyele Sowore.

Keep looking up to burna boy.

Hendrixky:
This people think we are fools
The State labour party wins always have a close number with Apc while the one won by Apc always have a huge difference
Inec can't pull the wool over our eyes
And for Ekiti people
Ekiti people are not really educated the way we think

This election revealed alot about south west

Imagine Ekiti were selling thier votes even on credit

One thing am gonna start celebrating in Nigeria I don't care if anyone will tag me evil

I'm gonna be celebrating 🍾 when ever I hear bad news happening in Nigeria....if the suffering and killing increases I will celebrate it because I can't imagine Nigerians at this critical time allowed a sick old man again to rule
And for those people that put aside religion, tribe and political leaning and put aside petty sentiments and did the rights thing this election may you continue to prosper...I'm not igbo, yoruba or hausa..

So APC was close in Enugu, Abia, Imo, Edo?


What are you saying? It's clear you lost because you have almost no representation in the far north. Simple.

When they said you have no structure, you said 'we" are the strucuture. But "we" are mostly southern Christians.

Obasanjao asked for fresh elections in affected areas. Thay is reasonable enough provided they can prove which areas are genuinely affected.

Theunbothered:
Signs of a pump and dump, inflate stock price, get many people to cash in, withdraw your money before inauguration.

Bonds mr. Bonds. Don't you know the difference between bonds and stock??

Azyne:
As you will too.

Cheers.

Azyne:
Its not pretense. If you did not understand the ambiguity of that statement that is not my fault

Rest dear.

Azyne:
PO belongs to everybody, deal with it sir

Don't be pretentious. You said what you said and I cannot beat you. Just highlighting it for the sake of making a general point.

Azyne:
Not even one single post to support your own because you want to play safe, this suffering will somehow reach you soon.
you say the youth is your constituency did you say anything as regards the crucial issues we're facing now?

supporting what one commenter said "Dear youth gbuo gi there"

These will be the first to call another bigot, tribalist etc etc.

Derecho don't be a coward. Come out and tell me more about how Edo people have rejected Adams Oshiomole.

Why are you silent?

Pierced:
I am expecting AA to win. I don't like Tinubu.

Liking a candidate is one thing but expecting them to win is another. On the whole, I expect a Tinubu victory - it's terrible for Atiku if Tinubu can drag votes with him in the north east.

Pierced:
To be sincere........Tinubu is not doing well at all....like at all.

From the results releases on INEC portal do far.....there are too many states that Tinubu should be winning that he's going head to head with Atiku.

States like Yobe, Kwara, Niger, Kaduna.

You expected Tinubu to win those over Atiku??