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The opinion I posted yesterday encapsulated both these gentlemen's opinions.

SmartyPants:
He has already elucidated perfectly.

Ordinarily, China could have no claim to Nigerian property, as all of such would be covered under the principle of sovereignty and territorial integrity.

However the exception to this rule is when a nation incurrs debts in the course of a commercial transaction, the effect is that the sovereignty of that nation is waived with respect to its liability. That does not mean China can take ownership of Nigeria, but it means that Chins can lay claim to some assets belonging to Nigeria.

The only issue I have with this is that the particular property to be claimed is not stated.

Wrecxman:
Sometimes I wonder how these guys negotiate deals. Those from other countries who sometimes play next to nothing earn twice or even three times the amounts Nigerian players get. When will a Nigerian player earn GBP 300k per week?

Who do you know that plays next to nothing and earns 300k?

Dos attacks are not hacks

Tadeknkeepcalm:
Sorry sir. I had a feeling that smarty pants exist as a username here o. Lol. Sorry for the disturbance.

No qualms..

Tadeknkeepcalm:
Firstly, did I ask you to use the term as well?
Secondly, you're damn sure I "followed". You must be some mind reader.
Thirdly, as I asked earlier, justify how it is not rape and the word I should have used Mr. Smartypants

Good sir/madam... e have do

themaestro08:
Am I the only one who dislike alcohol for moral reasons?

Obviously you know that there are others who do not like it but this thread will probably attract drinkers or those whos secretly wish to be like drinkers.

samguru:
What I found disturbing about the child custody is that, the lady abandoned the boy with her mother and relocate to another area.

What about the threat to the child's life??

That man needs to act.

fykes:
The advice is good and time tested...
U obviously have little knowledge of court proceedings and marriage laws.
The only downside of that advice is that without a father figure d boy may have been badly damaged by the time he comes back to his father.

But will he come back, sure thing... A woman can't keep a boy under her for very long

Hmmm. You don't seem like you have a lot yourself.

At the very least, the Court will award visitation rights.

Amotolongbo:
No time changed.

Only that Christianity has shattered into small pieces like pebbles and no much enough unity to fight. Unlike Islam.

Islam has two major branches, Sunni and Shia. The Sunni is by far the largest and always easy in unity to fight against Shia or any other religious group.

Unlike Christianity which you can’t really say one has a larger body than the other, though Catholicm has been estimated to have more numerical advantage. Christianity isn’t anymore a United body like it used to be during the crusaders.

A microcosm of that is in some places in the south east where Catholics and Anglicans dominate. You can imagine the rivalry between them.

Nonsense on stilts.

The Catholic Church alone is about 1.3 billion and it is united. So what are you talking about? A Catholic church that has its own state and armed forces as well as untold resources at its disposal? It there was any inherent proclivity to violence it would have been manifested.

Besides if you argue that the sunni are united in fighting others, and the Sunni's make up the majority of Muslims, then you are saying that Muslims are generally unite in fighting people, thus reinforcing the argument of the person you quoted.

engrtee:
You people that know better should come and teach us

He has already elucidated perfectly.

Ordinarily, China could have no claim to Nigerian property, as all of such would be covered under the principle of sovereignty and territorial integrity.

However the exception to this rule is when a nation incurrs debts in the course of a commercial transaction, the effect is that the sovereignty of that nation is waived with respect to its liability. That does not mean China can take ownership of Nigeria, but it means that Chins can lay claim to some assets belonging to Nigeria.

The only issue I have with this is that the particular property to be claimed is not stated.

ProfAmaben:
I'm older than you if you're below 42. 9 not 10. Is being a redeemed member important in his profession? I just want to know why that is important to lawyers aspiring to get to that level, that's all.

The post is not about things that are important to his profession.

It's just facts that average people might want to know about Mr. Akpata.

If you are going to question the relevance of number 9, what of number 8?

ProfAmaben:
So being a member of the Redeemed church is now an achievement in this dispensation? This is laughable

See no 9.

Young man, the list says 10 things to know about Olumide Akpata, not 10 achievements of Olumide Akpata.

WomaninherPrime:
In truth, I'm more inclined to Nedu and Denver.

As for Nedu, he's not a poor man per se. He's just starting off with his career and he earns slightly higher than I do. I don't know what he does with his money, but he's living like someoone with no source of livelihood. If I have to make excuses for him, then it's probably because he got into some huge financial mess last year that he's still offsetting.

As for Denver, yes, it worries me so much about his level of education. I don't want him getting intimidated tomorrow. Yes, he's doing okay today... and would even be bigger tomorrow. But I like a man I can look up to. If he's unable to measure up beyond what his bank account states, I fear we might have problems in future. It may be him feeling left behind and refusing to encourage my growth... or me feeling like he just doesn't measure up. I like him today... but what about longterm?

Now that you have narrowed down to two, I think its fairly easy.

There is a simple way to clear your thoughts and find out what your heart really wants: the coin toss.

Take a coin and flip it, heads--Nedu, tails--Denver. However don't check the result...instead, wait and see which one you were hoping would come up.

That is the one that you really want.

Also i would advise you not to open your heart to just about every man that comes knocking.

merieam16:
U mean takin him 2 a cult member. Lolz

He meant Court.

Dantedasz:
I don't normally do but I will make an exception for the last time. I am the original poster of this thread and the title of the thread is about abuse of women in the Christian bible. The post you quoted is a sequence in the thread about how the Christian bible encourages abuse of women. Arguments about a particular post without taking into the bigger picture of how the Christian bible is a sexist,misogynistic and abusive book towards women will be a practical waste of my time and yours. This is why I advised you to go back and read the thread from the first page.
I do not engage in meaningless back and forth arguments. So I admonish you to do the same please. This will be my last response on this issue except you are ready to discuss the bigger picture of how the christian bible is a book that demeans women. I wish you well.

You seem overly emotional over what is a fairly simply and straight forward issue.

I know what your thread is about. I read through every page and every post. I am pointing out to you that this particular piece of "evidence" does not support your overall argument because the misogynistic behavior in the story has been condemned

You have refused to understand for some reason and that is your prerogtive.

Dantedasz:

At emboldened,
Go back to the beginning of the thread and read it again. This time very slowly. If you can't comprehend what the thread is about,then I am sorry I can't help you.

Did I ask about the thread?

I quoted a specific post and we have engaged on that so you must be feigning ignorance if you claim not to understand that I'm saying that I'm not sure what your point is with respect to why you have referenced the particular story as evidence of alleged misogyny when the story may be about misogynistic behavior without promoting but rather condemning such.

Dantedasz:
Quite frankly, I expect the preacher to call a spade,a spade and say IT IS A SICK,DISGUSTING MYSOGNYISTIC STORY THAT DEBASES WOMANHOOD!

I don't think you get it. The fact is, the event happened. It's not narrated so that people will go out there and replicate it, it's simply a narration of something that actually happened. Neither is it there as an example of something positive. In fact it is told as an example of how degenerate the people of that area were. Their actions were condemned.

When you say the preacher should condemn the story and not the actions of those in the story which, are you saying it should not be included in the Bible? That some part of history is not pleasant means it should be untold?

Not sure I get your point.

Dantedasz:
18. JUDGES Chapter 19 verses 22-30. This is one of the bible passages that totally debases woman hood. It is a sick story and when I was still a Christian it really disturbed me whenever I read it. Preachers seldom touch on it because it is a freak show pure and simple but it is there in the bible.


JUDGES 19. 22-30.

22 Now as they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, certain sons of Belial, beset the house round about, and beat at the door, and spake to the master of the house, the old man, saying, Bring forth the man that came into thine house, that we may know him.

23 And the man, the master of the house, went out unto them, and said unto them, Nay, my brethren, nay, I pray you, do not so wickedly; seeing that this man is come into mine house, do not this folly.

24 Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing.

25 But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go.

26 Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man's house where her lord was, till it was light.

27 And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and, behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold.

28 And he said unto her, Up, and let us be going. But none answered. Then the man took her up upon an ass, and the man rose up, and gat him unto his place.

29 And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel.

30 And it was so, that all that saw it said, There was no such deed done nor seen from the day that the children of Israel came up out of the land of Egypt unto this day: consider of it, take advice, and speak your minds.

Are you able to understand that the Bible contains both a collection of instructions and narrations of events?

Now what do you expect a preacher to say about this particular story?

CrazyOptimist:
So when it comes to Election, Trump agrees that corona is real and people should stay home until it's gone, but the same guy says Kids should go to school at the same time.
It all shows that his only interest is the 2nd term.
He is a selfish, racist, corrupt, and spoilt big baby.

When did he say this?

favor914:
Your papa go work during the lockdown? Then whose parents did you expect would have gone to work?

I know you think you have made a wonderful argument.

Doctors are people's parents too
Nurses
Police
Firemen

Of course workers would have been willing to work for the right incentives.

Brute2162:
List is Flawed.

1. Neymar
2. Nicolas Pepe
3. Others

Young man the list is based on stats

So all these uncles and aunties of Nairaland cannot recognize parody when they see it?

shamsin6300:
You can only insult Islam but you can't stop admiring them for their teaching. To those people above, does xtian promote sexuality?

It's not about promoting any sexuality. It's about minding your business within reasonable limits.

How can two young ladies have two years lost of their promising future for a short video that was relatively innocuous.

What kind of value is that?

engrrichie92:
funny

because I am the only person in this world that earns over 300K and hates his Job

lol....

but then you have added a clue that you are an engineer

your name indicates that yo might be Richard and about 27

that your colleagues perceive you as incompetent

that your skillset is rare

all of these will be instantly suspicious to someone from your professional environment

hardbody:
While there is some merit in your analogy, i beg to differ on the interpretation that you have ascribed to S.2(1) of the LPA (LFR). It may take us further to check the definition clauses to determine how 'practice' has been defined. What does practice include? However, I will rather stick to your postulation for the time being. Kindly note though that it will be stretching it beyond reasonable proportions to assume that a person with any other degree will be able to take up the function that a trained 'law graduate' will be able to carry out.

1. There is no need need to seek for a legal interpretation of practice. The first canon of interpretation is that ordinary words must be given their ordinary meaning and technical words must be given their technical meaning. Within both contexts, it is clear what practice means, i.e the application of one's training.

Having said that, the key is that one cannot practice as a Solicitor going by that povision.

The Act is available online.

2. As a trained law graduate myself I can tell you categorically that at University level Law is a theoretical and academic pursuit that teaches you more of the what and the why but less of the how. upon graduation you are only marginally more enlightened as to the how than the layman. This is the reason we then proceed to the Law school/Bar school, where we are trained on the hows.

hardbody:
Interesting. So those colleagues who are working with only their Law degrees, what work do they do?

Is this your position supported by the Legal Practitioners Act? If yes what section of that Law are you making reference to?

I submit that while most people I know have proceeded to the Law School after their final year at the university, a few have stayed back and worked with their Law degree and they did solicitor's job which basically has to do with documentations, agreements, Land matters, etc. They can only qualify as Barristers after being called to the Bar.

The distinction you made about about the position in England is apt and tends to speak to the line of reasoning most people have around that position even here in Nigeria

See, those who work only with their law degrees are akin to a person with a degree from another field doing the same work. For example, a degree holder in biology can read a few articles online and go on to draft contracts for people. That is fine, and it doesn't make them a legal professional.

See Section 2(1) of the Legal Practitioners Act copied here under:

2. Entitlement to practise
(1) Subject to the provisions of this Act, a person shall be entitled to practise as a bar‐
rister and solicitor if, and only if, his name is on the roll.

Burgerlomo:
I know say nah lie that Minister dey talk, nah only 52 contacts the legislooter get and not 53

Bro... How did you literally take the words out of my mouth

sylve11:
@ Nwaboshi, since you dey deny say nor be 53 contracts; then na how many contracts?

Did you guys see that he didn't deny that he wasn't awarded contracts to but technically denying the numbers of contracts award to him?

Indeed... Perhaps it really wasn't 53 but 52.

NOC1:
Are they talking about being a lawyer or a barrister?

People mistake this two things, however I read where they said he went to law school, he might have, but didn’t pass, so you can’t see his name on register but that doesn’t stop him from answering a law graduate.

On his biography as pasted here, he never claimed to have graduated from Law School, he ended it at his University degree. If that’s what he has been using to work he has no problem.

Is just like an Engineering graduate who is not registered with COREN you have Engineering degree but you are not a registered Engineer but not human can stop you from saying you graduated as an Engineer from university.

I know same is applicable to pharmacy and Accountancy

hardbody:
Spot on.

On the bolded, replace 'lawyer' with solicitor.

Lawyers are called to the Bar of the Supreme Court of Nigeria when they have passed from the Law School and become qualified to be registered.

Upon graduation from your university, you become qualified to practice as a solicitor and shall not appear before any court of record unless you have been called to the Nigerian Bar.

Just stating the position as it is at law, I am not interested in the substance of this matter or the party affiliations of the dramatis personae

1. The write up says he is described as having graduated from the Nigerian Law School
2. You are not a lawyer, which he has described himself as, until you are called to the bar
3. You only become a barrister or solicitor when you are called to the bar. That is why the title reads: barrister and solicitor of the supreme court of Nigeria. Unlike in England, the roles of barrister and solicitor are fused, and even in England there are formal post-university training programs for both solicitors and barristers that is equivalent to the bar program in Nigeria.

To cut the long story short.

A law degree does not make you a lawyer nor does it make you a solicitor. It makes you a holder of a law degree.

I have come to realize that Nigeria cannot be as bad as one is made to believe on nairaland.

I read what the governor said and the purpose of this is simply to decongest traffic. It's not about making the place look more beautiful, but rather shows that the government is taking a scientific approach to solving problems.

I am rather impressed.

tommy589:
That policeman questioning her is a disgrace to police force

You have buried the girl already before her death. A girl you know nothing about you called USELESS. When has it become a crime to have a boyfriend?

I can guarantee you the policeman career is already in jeopardy.

Don't be in a hurry, you will soon hear the follow up.

I can assure you that if calling her names is the worst thing that happened here, nothing will happen.