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From the second pic I am almost certain the lady either did not make it or she fell...terrible angle.

At your age, talking about frenching a stranger?

Even that word frenching...why cant this woman grow up??!

LordAdam16:
I said your argument is nonsensical and that's all the counter it needs.

It appears you lack the ability to comprehend properly.

The government gave him a pioneer status for five years. All the benefits you mentioned were put into account to arrive at a 5-year span. He extended that to 12+ years by gaming the system. If the experts knew 12 years would be okay, they wouldn't have put a 5 year limit on the status.

So if those trashy reasons you gave were sacrosanct for every company and industry, no country would ask for corporate taxes.

Read my last comment to you again, if you still don't get why the author is fuming about Dangote's favoritism then don't reply me again. I'm getting close to the point where I have to question your sanity.

Because it seems you are unable to tell when a practice however legal becomes unacceptable. If Dangote can do no wrong to you, then say so. Don't hide behind economic fallacies.


Later you'd be one of those complaining about multiple taxation or the disco companies not sharing meters or the complicated process to register a company. Well, smart-a**, it is legal and the companies/institutions are not breaking any laws, so they must be right, and you can't complain.

See how s*lly you sound?

-Lord

I don't need to read beyond this line.

Your increasing resort to verbal abuse betrays the depth (or the lack thereof) of your mental processes.

So goodbye Mr.

LordAdam16:
You adopt their principles. You use their laws. You run their type of government. You follow their economic policies. Then you say why should they be relevant here?

Are you effing serious?

All our policy makers are Western-educated.

Why would you get the point when you didn't read the whole article? The pioneer status was for five years. Dangote used it for each of his plants at least twice. To put it simply, towards the end of the status for a plant, he applied again for it.

And that's not just it. The status he got was for individual plants not his company.

And that's not the shocker. The shocker is that instead of the government to sanction him or at least tighten the noose around his neck, they chose to eliminate cement from the list. Meaning competitors both old and new who may want to setup manufacturing plants in the future would not be able to take advantage of the same gracious benefits that he had. Oh, and he is taking advantage of another loophole, certainly provided by the government, to avoid not paying until 2019. All he has to do is finance Buhari or whoever is tipped by the elites to win next year and another loophole would be made exclusively for him to continue from 2019 to 2023 and beyond.

Do you get it now?

-Lord

1. Because economic and political realities vary from country to country! In economics, there is no one-size fits all approach.

2. you are only arguing that Dangote was shown favor. I am pointing out that it is well within the rights of the government to grant him (or anyone else) favor so long as it is either beneficial or at least not detrimental to the Nigerian economy.

I've made the argument that granting Dangote tax relief is advantageous to everyone. I'm yet to see your counter argument to that.

LordAdam16:
Nonsense!

Show me any company in the Western world paying 1% in taxes.

And you're here talking about the benefits of tax breaks. Like I've been living under a rock or I'm an artisan. If the 1% is so okay, why is the government plugging the leak by excluding cement from the pioneer list now?

-Lord

Is there any reason the economic policies of Western states is of relevance here??

Secondly, as to why the pioneer status maybe removed, pioneer status is a transient thing used to grant temporary benefits while anew company finds its feet. If indeed it is being lifted now, it means it has outlived its usefulness. I don't get your point really.

Economic policies are meant to be flexible. That something was good yesterday does not mean it is good today.

LordAdam16:
I respect Dangote. And I fully acknowledge that morality and capitalism don't mix, but paying 12 billion out of 1.* trillion is disgustingly low.

That's around 1%. Corporate tax is 30%. Income tax (the tax you pay) starts at 25%.

Dangote is a smart businessman. And sure he has his plus points, but it doesn't mean we should all just ignore his minuses.

That said, I'd like to know what the margins and tax remunerations are with the other cement companies--LaFarge, BUA, Ibeto et al...

-Lord

Unless Dangote acquired these advantages by unfair means then i see no problem with it.

The question is why would he be given tax breaks/concessions? Simply because the bulk of that money flows right back into three critical places:

1. The consumer economy - remunerations to labor (Dangote's employees) and entrepreneurship (Dangote himself) will result in consumer spending that keeps money in circulation;
2. The banking system - Savings provide money for the banks to lend to small businesses
3. Investment economy - If you and i are given extra money through tax breaks, the likelihood is that we would spend it in the consumer market, whereas the FG knows that if Dangote is given more money through tax breaks, he is most likely going to reinvest it, either expanding his current capacity, or investing in new ventures, with the attendant economic benefits of doing so.

Okay, so something is seriously out of place in this article. The writer cannot point to one single genuine detrimental effect that Dangote has on the economy. The best takeaway from this post is that Dangote may receive more than he gives back which is no crime so long as he is actually giving back. 12 billion naira from one company alone is substantial, regardless of how much it makes.

This money can achieve a lot of things in Nigeria today.

As to the allegation that Dangote as a monopoly sets the price, this does not make sense when you then go ahead to say that Nigeria's cement prices are too high--ostensibly thanks to Dangote. This is simply because monopolies can only force competitors to reduce prices so contrarily, if Dangote and his competitors are selling at the same bloated level, then it means he is exerting no influence on price in the industry.

Apologies for the errors, typing from phone.

Mustiboy:
my mum's next conversation with them is sure going to be recorded, even without her knowing.
I'll just place the call on to them and give her the phone to speak with them. that, I promise.

Thats a good start. try to set up a meeting as well, to provide video evidence.

Mustiboy:
the said truck is not in Nigeria, but Ireland. And this woman didn't buy any truck, she's just lying. she only said that because she wanted to buy herself more time

If you have evidence of such a conversation, that is enough proof that she does have your father's money. The Court can forcefully bring forth other sources of proof by commanding certain records to be brought forth from the banks, etc.

BlaQWolf:
Nawa o..imagine the line up of all these players? We had be competing with the best of the best

Really? The likes of Sidney Sam and Aogo are the best of the best?

The only top level players there are Dele Alli and David Alaba. Barkley, Sam and Ogbonna are merely decent players.

The rest are outright poor players that won't cut it at any decent level.

Mudley313:
This oyinbo duo will mostly probably be exposed during the actual world cup although I hope not. I remember one Reuben Agboola half cast defender in the 90s who was cool calm and collected until Cote d'Voire exposed him during our first game in the last round of qualifier to USA 94. The guy almost totally lost consciousness from exhaustion after that game and never smelled the eagles team thereafter

Are you saying they will be exposed simply because another mixed race defender was exposed or what is the actual logic?

Both Troost Ekong and Balogun are proven at a decent level.

Balogun plays in the Bundesliga and Ekong in the Turkish highest division...what other exposure will they face?

Ranchhoddas:
He's married to an Oyinbo woman.
His kids will be like Ekong. How can he be racist?

By definition discrimination on the grounds of race is racism. Oliseh allegedly discriminated against Troost Ekong simply because he us "oyinbo". Whether or not he meant to be racist is immaterial. Even more immaterial is the fact that he may be married to a white lady.

openmine:
Our Oyibo Wall....lol

I think Sunday oliseh was too hard on the ekong....As a coach,ur job is not only to give instructions but motivate and correct where necessary.... Not to demean the poor guy simply because of his colour....

On a serious note,Based on what oliseh said,I can confidently call him a "racist".....why must the colour of a skin determine the person's potential.....?

And yet oliseh will be the first to protest or write a stinker if he was labelled or called a "monkey".....smh

Africans have some very funny double standards. Imagine a coach not picking you essentially because of your racial heritage... that must have felt really bad for Ekong at the time.

Ranchhoddas:
Even the best coaches in the world get sacked.
Nobody would have taken Troost into the Super Eagles when Oliseh was coach. A coach would include you in his only when you show you are good enough and not based on sentimental rubbish.


Kevin de Bruyne and Pogba were rejected by Mourinho and Sir Alex respectively. They went out, proved themselves and are now thriving in their clubs.
They did not go talking Ill of their past coaches. It's football and it happens regularly.
What this guy is doing is just sentimental rubbish. Na Bursaspor e still dey play for wey he don dey get mouth, proving that he is emotional (soft) as Oliseh said.

Where did he speak ill of Oliseh?

What you need to realize is that if Oliseh actually did say such, that was racist!

Imagine a white coach of England telling Rashford blacks are not technical enough. The press and the public would have his head on a spike by sundown!

It has been a while since i've seen genuinely competent, technical defenders play for the SE....

The partnership between Troost Ekong and Leon Balogun is one of my favorite things about the Super Eagles these days.

DWJOBScom:
I think that goal was right and the player was on side....

Hey bro... I just want you to know that nobody cares what you think.

Nbote:
U do realise it is prison guards who smuggle in things for prisoners ryt? Or u actually believe d prisoners smuggle in things any other way

So first off, it could have been any prison warden, and not the one specifically referenced as being the subject of the bribe attempt.

However, your assertion is quite wrong. I can say this because have visited a prison before, and it is relatively easy to smuggle things in, in the way that is described in the post.

The items were smuggled in bread and semo, etc, and these are things outsiders are generally allowed to bring in with them.

Okocha was more gifted than Iwobi ever will be, but Iwobi is more refined and will have the better career.

Happy for their family.

Nbote:
.D question is actually rhetorical. Dey claim he was trying to bribe a guard and also claim a guard smuggled in d items for him. How can he b trying to bribe ppl wen already he has dem on his payroll

The article doesn't claim the guard in question smuggled the items in for him. It merely states that the man has access to these items, with no mention of who is bringing them in.

All it says about the guard is that he was caught trying to bribe him.

Nbote:
Na lie... Ur story is even laughable. U claim he was trying get an informant and luring him with $50,000. How did he get access to all d things u ppl claim he has access to in d first place. Abort ko, Abortion ni..

Your question is answered in the post.

rawpadgin:
"ladies let's support our gender"

Honestly...

Sholaqe:
depends on the people involved. there are certain needs that can't be met when one is married and there are certain freedoms one loses when one gets married. In the same vein, there are certain benefits and joys that being married bestows on a person. so there are pros and cons to both. its just a matter of weighing both on your own subjective scale.

Sorry, which needs can't be met when one is married?

greenhulk:
My friend stop saying what u don't know and try make ur research. refs have no business at catching offside (except when he is in a better position and 95% of the times they are never in a better position, the ones that track the offside line are the linesmen ) if ref thinks linesman made a wrong call concerning offside he will walk to the linesman to discuss it and if the linesman and discuss. Yes Referee has the final say but he also knows linesmen are in better position to track offside. If linesman raises his flag for offside and referee thinks otherwise and gives the goal even when he is not in a better position then he risks getting fined at the end of the game if evidence shows that linesman was right. This is why most of the times referees have to go with the linesmen decision on offsides.

Something is definitely wrong with this guy. The point i made and others too, was that the ref has the final say on everything including offsides. I also made the precise point that the referee only listens to the linesman because the linesman is usually better placed to make the call, but you no...

You said "no, the linesman has the final say on offsides".

Now that i have forced you to do some research you are now changing the goal posts and talking from both sides of the mouth.

First you said:

greenhulk:
When it comes to offside forget it the liensman dictates. Every other decision is the refs but offside? Na.

Now you've backtracked saying yes the referee has the final say. How can the referee have the final say if the linesman is the one dictating?

Just accept you were wrong and let it go instead of putting your obstinate nature on dispaly for the world to see!

greenhulk:
When it comes to offside forget it the liensman dictates. Every other decision is the refs but offside? Na.

My friend, the linesman can never dictate anything to the ref. Do your research and stop being stubborn over somethign you don't know about. Its very irritating.

http://www.asktheref.com/Soccer%20Rules/Question/27946/

"The proper name for the 'side ref' is 'Assistant Referee'. That describes their job - to assist the referee. Every time they raise their flag they are simply offering an opinion to the referee, and the referee has the final say on whether to act. So yes, the referee can always overrule the AR."

greenhulk:
U got to be kidding me. I don't know how long u have been watching football but I've been into football for more than 2 decades. Referees have no business with offside, that job is 100% the linesmen. Why do u think when players score the first person they look for is the linesman to see if flag is raised for offside because if that flag is raised ref will pull the goal back.

Linesmen are in better position to spot offside. Is it referee that is running to catch up with with plsyers that will catch offside. There may be some rare occasions when ref may think otherwise but he has to consult the linesman. Referee will never make offside decision without the linesman agreeing with him.

That is convention not law. Referees work with linesmen to make the best decision so they typically would tend to trust the linesman's decision, but they are not compelled to do so.

positivetaught:
The camera was beside the center line I.e behind the point of action making it impossible for an accurate replay pictures, this in itself is a show of poor technical arrangements, there were suppose to be multi cameras place at different angles for accuracy, I'm not been unpatriotic but that line was just a smart move by control room,I have seen such fraud several times in football, I just hope that we don't become victim some day.

What are you on about...this is exactly what we see done every single day in every league around the world...

This is the way offside lines are drawn and that line there is perfectly in order.

positivetaught:
if u look at the line carefully u would notice it was drawn diagonally from the Zambian player instead of appendicular in relation to the goal line the way it should, let's not just turn a blind eye because we are favoured, I remember some years back when one referee from Gabon jean Fidel diramba was always using offside to deal with Nigeria, most of us felt issa hayatou had a hand in it then n it was very painful. it could also happen to us at the world cup, remember Cameroon vs England at Italy 90?.

That is how the line should be drawn because the camera is placed at an angle from the Zambian player. If you slant the picture it will become more obvious

kenny5811:
Even FIFA prefers Nigeria in za world cup to zambia.... FIFA is hpy itz Nigeria in Russia....try takin dis case to FIFA nd watch if u'r dear zambia won't get fined or banned for crowd troubles... i blive FIFA dem go turn d case on u.

You just spoke my mind, in fact you used the exact words i wanted to say!

folem:
That Red line is a 419. The guy was onside.

So the red line is 419 but you are the one we should trust??

gerrarrahia mehn

ivolt:
Employing an underaged school-age kid as househelp is reprehensible.
If you need an househelp, employ an adult, with that no one will complain.

Not only reprehensible, but unlawful as well!

Well it depends on the age of the househelp.

I believe it is actually illegal to employ a minor in the first place.

nwaanambra1:
gosh! u really need to get yourself a job men!



this guy is using reverse psychology on the FGN of Nigeria!



He just sold a dummy to them!


the court will now force the federal government to prove how Nnamdi kanu was able to escape to Uk without his paspports!


The British government will now be force to declare a force-major on Nigeria and ask that the government should provide proves that Nnamdi Kanu is in Uk as they claimed!


The senator will be called to tell what he know about his bailiff!

the immigration service will explain how a person can leave this county without evidence without passport.



this is a pure case of when u r digging a pit for your enemy - dont dig it too deep in case u mistakenly fall into it.


NIGERIA WILL REALIZE THAT ITS NOT EVERYBODY YOU CAN MURDER AND GET AWAY WITH IT. THEY MURDERED EL-ZAKZAKY AND HIS WIFE AND HID IT - NOW THEY MURDERED NNAMDI KANU AND HIS PARENTS AND STILL BELIEVE THEY CAN HIDE IT TOO.

WE ARE SILENTLY WATCHING.


We will see how this goes.

Sorry, what??

Please don't abuse terms whose meaning you are unsure of!

Lunacy!!