Christianity Etc › Re: Help, The Bible Is Pushing Me Into Atheism by sonmvayina(m): 12:57pm On Jun 14, 2020 |
I just try to learn the messages in the story, I know the story is not based on an actual event... And move on..
I have since stopped arguing whether the snake is Satan or not or whether a snake can talk.. It is all a waste of time and energy.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Does God Allow Suffering In The World? by sonmvayina(m): 8:35am On Jun 14, 2020 |
There would not have been any purpose of life... It is our duty to end it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Regretful Journey Into Spiritualism by sonmvayina(m): 8:54pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Silentriver: Should I say the spirits killed me when they didn't, or should I say they are chasing me all around my house, when they aren't?, there will always be good and bad people, anyone that wants to choose darkness over light is free. Revelation 22 vs 11 . The day is not complete with out night.. Light and darkness are NOT opposing forces, they are complimentary... We need both to survive.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by sonmvayina(m): 4:04pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Maximus69: Oh i see you have!
But i wonder how you can't present any lasting solution to the problem on ground!  Those who have should share with those that don't... There is no saviour outside of ourselves.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by sonmvayina(m): 3:46pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Maximus69: Go and find them nah, even ordinary Agege bread is something!  You don't have sense.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by sonmvayina(m): 3:35pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Maximus69: Abegi all these are useless and hopeless THEORIES! 
The question on ground now is how to save those kids GRIMMJOE posted in the picture Sir. Tell everyone how they could be saved nobody needs your stupid Theory!  Thank God you did not disprove it... Well, I don't have much in my account right now.. As money is only going out because of the lock down.. I am a very charitable person... If those that have can do the same rather than take them to foreign account... We will be in a better world.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by sonmvayina(m): 3:16pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Maximus69: Present a better solution nah! 
Abi your brains dey attached to my own?  There is no such thing like Satan... He was created by Rome just like Jesus.. What ever happens, happened because it is the will of God.. Whether good or evil.. Both are his property.. Comprende? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why didn’t Jesus just die like everyone else and go to Heaven? by sonmvayina(m): 3:13pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
agwom: Why is the death, burial, and subsequent resurrection of Jesus Christ such a big deal? Why didn’t Jesus just die like everyone else and go to Heaven and wait for us there? Why did it have to be so gruesome and public, His death, His burial, and His resurrection? Because it validates everything Jesus said while He was on earth, it validates everything he taught and shared for three years.
You see, if Jesus Christ hadn’t come back from the dead after three days, there would be no Christianity, no followers of Christ, no hope. But He has. And because Jesus Christ came to earth, we can have life and have life everlasting.
When He was on earth, He talked a lot about His Kingdom and how He was going to create a new temple in 3 days.
The people of His time did not understand, thinking that He was referring to an earthly kingdom.
If He had left earth, been buried, and didn’t resurrect, He would have been the purveyor of another false religion. Today, He would be the prophet or god of just another dead religion.
But because he came back from the dead, rose from a sealed, guarded tomb and appeared to over 500 people before He ascended to the Father to prepare a place for us in Heaven, we have proof that He was, is, and always will be, Who He said He is.
Who did He say He is? He said He is the way, the truth and the life, and no one comes to the Father but through Him.
What do we know about the details of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ? “More than we know about the death of any other man in all the ancient world.” (Wilbur Smith)
But just to focus on His burial for a moment, Matthew, one of Jesus disciples, tells us:
At the end of the day that Jesus died, a rich man of Arimathaea, Joseph, went to Pilate, and asked for the body of Jesus. So Pilate commanded the body to be delivered to Joseph. So Joseph took the body and wrapped it in a clean linen cloth.
He laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulcher, and he left. The next day the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate, Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver (meaning Christ) said, while he was alive, After three days I will rise again.
Command therefore that the sepulcher be made sure until the third day, in case His disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first. So Pilate said unto them, You have a watch: go your way, make it as sure as you can. So they went, and made the sepulcher sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch. (Matt 27: 57-66)
What do you think? How sure was, ‘as sure as you can’? My guess is, not only did the chief priests and the Pharisees make sure that the stone that had been rolled over the mouth of the stone cave, where the body was buried, was extra heavy and unmovable, but they stood watch over the tomb. They had Roman soldiers guarding the tomb. Nobody was going to come take the body of Jesus! He would remain in that tomb forever!
But what do we know now that really happened?
Matthew tells us this:
At the end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the sepulchre. And there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it. His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow: And for fear of him the keepers shook, and became as dead men. And the angel answered and said to the women, Do not fear: for I know that you seek Jesus, Who was crucified. He is not here: for he is risen, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall you see him: lo, I have told you. And they departed quickly from the sepulcher with fear and great joy; and ran to bring his disciples word. And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me. (Matt. 28: 1-10)
After this time, Jesus Christ appeared repeatedly to the apostles and was seen by as many as 500 people at one time, during a period of 40 days after His resurrection. He repeatedly offered proofs of His resurrected life.
If Jesus the Christ had not risen from the dead, then He had done nothing any other prophet or god had ever done. He would have simply died. But He didn’t just die. He died and rose again, from the dead. Broke out of His tombclothes, escaped from a cave that was sealed with a great and heavy stone, and guarded by brutal Roman soldiers.
Why? So that we would be without excuse. So that we would have the infallible proofs, the historical evidence, 2000 years later and counting, that Jesus Christ was not just a man, not just a prophet, but God Himself in living flesh.
What does that mean to you and me? For me it means that He really is Who He says He is. He said He is the Way the Truth and the Life and that no one comes to the Father but through Him.
That is serious. That means that there is no other religion, god, or prophet who can offer genuine life, redemption from the fallen state of this earth, no matter what they claim. You see, Jesus the Christ is the only one who has died and risen again with witnesses. Mohammed is dead, Buddha sleeps, no tribal gods ever visited the earth, and no man becomes god through his own goodness as many religions claim.
Do the math, look at the evidence. For 400 years, Jesus Christ was predicted to come to earth. He came to earth as he said he would. He died and rose again from death, with proof. Either He is who He says He is or He is a fraud, and all the witnesses, on multiple occasions, over 40 days, were deceived, hallucinogenic, and willing to die horrible, bloody deaths via public stonings and hangings and beheadings over something they didn’t really see, over a person they didn’t really talk to, in whom they did not really believe.
One of the greatest incredulities of history would be that over 500 hundred people who claimed to have seen Jesus resurrected would be willing to die for the belief that He really rose again, and not one of them would have been willing to expose the lie, that Jesus wasn’t who He said He was, to escape death.
What does this mean to us, today? For those of you who have never been presented a logical proof that Jesus was Who He said He was, and have never accepted the life Jesus offers, you have no excuse. You now know the facts, what really happened and why. You have seen a logical explanation for why we can believe today what others have believed for two centuries. You see, truth never changes. The truth never lies. And you can see today that the truth is that Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth and the Life. You have but one option.
https://www.mychristianlifeministries.com/2020/05/defense-of-christianity-using.html Say what?
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why didn’t Jesus just die like everyone else and go to Heaven? by sonmvayina(m): 3:10pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Why didn't voldermont just die and leave Harry Potter alone...
It is just a story, the writers wrote it like that... None of the gospel stories are eye witness account and no writer is directly involved in it... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by sonmvayina(m): 3:05pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Maximus69: I know the bolded is your pain, but take heart my friend you're discussing with one of God's friends here. So it's either you listen to learn what he is doing to solve the problem or you forget this issue or you present a better idea! 
Did you say Arabs?
Well my friend, i've been to their countries, spent many years in their midst and i'm telling you now that there are more paupers amongst them than Nigerian today.
Just because the few amongst them flash their riches doesn't make them richer than Nigerians Sir.
And for your information, there are JWs in their midst preaching and teaching what i'm telling you now!  Onyinbo just give you book, all your sense just run leave you... Odikwanu risky oh.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by sonmvayina(m): 2:54pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
1Sharon: Wasnt the snake satan Noooo... It is a recast of an earlier Babylonian epic about how man forfeited the chance to live on earth indefinitely... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Snares Of Satan by sonmvayina(m): 4:03pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
Julivas: Yeah, satan won't get away with it because he will definitely end in the lake of fire. So why was he created in the first place?... A mistake of creation of some sort... Hmm, you sincerely don't know God.. You and the op.. The is just a pity.. For the last time.. There is no such thing as Satan.. Whatever happens whether good or bad, God is solely responsible... Nothing happens without his OK.. Got it now? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by sonmvayina(m): 3:50pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: Satan, Lucifer, Devil, The Serpent, are the same to Christians. Yes, they are all ignorant.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Resurrection: Why, What And How? By Femi Oyelade by sonmvayina(m): 1:13pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
Image123: You stated "Probably because it never happened." It shows you don't know, doesn't it? i was pointing out that, now you're sheepishly asking for calculations and decimal places. Did you forget significant figures when you mentioned it PROBABLY never happened? I am 1000000% sure it never happened.. So you that think it might, calculate it's probability.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Resurrection: Why, What And How? By Femi Oyelade by sonmvayina(m): 12:37pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
Image123: You stated "Probably because it never happened." It shows you don't know, doesn't it? i was pointing out that, now you're sheepishly asking for calculations and decimal places. Did you forget significant figures when you mentioned it PROBABLY never happened? I am 1000000% sure it never happened.. So you that think it might, calculate it's probability.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Resurrection: Why, What And How? By Femi Oyelade by sonmvayina(m): 12:03pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
Image123: Probably. There's a probabilities that you're wrong. Calculate it.. Give your answer correct to two decimal places. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by sonmvayina(m): 12:00pm On Jun 10, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: The removal of Satan contradict the creation story, the removal of Jesus contradict the salvation story.
A religion shouldn't be built on contradiction. Like you rightly said.. "story'... Has got no effect on reality.. Why introduce them to the equation.? FYI no mention of Satan in the creation story... Adam, eve and snake... |
Christianity Etc › Re: If You Miss HEAVEN, Who Will You Blame? by sonmvayina(m): 6:44pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
BackllGodNaija: As long as it is the truth...
Those who first spoke and wrote about it did it for free. So tell the truth, if it's you.. Will you come back? |
Christianity Etc › Re: If You Miss HEAVEN, Who Will You Blame? by sonmvayina(m): 5:33pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
BackllGodNaija: But you don't believe those who've been there na...
At least you must have heard some persons talk about it sometime. And they came back?.. Sound like somebody wants to sell a book and make money.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: John's Warning by sonmvayina(op): 5:32pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
IamMichael:
Verse 8:
Jesus said: "The spirit is like wind, you cannot know where it is going or where it is coming from." In other words, the spirit roams about aimlessly. Jesus is telling his disciples that the spirit takes hold of them and starts roaming aimlessly around with them.
Nicodemus asked him "how can this be?":
Read the next the statement replied by Jesus in that Chapter... He diverted the answer and started talking about something else.
I just noticed that this is typical of christians. I'm not surprised though seeing as their chief is even more guilty of it to begin with.
Am concern about Jesus answer in the preceding verse, spirit beget spirit and flesh beget flesh... Is it not pretty straight forward.. So the idea of the spirit impregnating Mary is a big impossibility.. As recorded by Mathew and Luke Don't you think so? |
Christianity Etc › Re: If You Miss HEAVEN, Who Will You Blame? by sonmvayina(m): 3:55pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
echizzy: May God have mercy on you Maybe we are the God we are looking for, but we are hidden in this flesh and blood.. Some people can see it, but others just can't.. Maybe people find God in the last place they checked... "within" |
Christianity Etc › Re: Snares Of Satan by sonmvayina(m): 3:49pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
@Op, do you really and sincerely think there is anything God created that he can't control?
If your answer is No, why do you think the devil can do whatever he likes and get away with it?
Waiting patiently for answers.. |
Christianity Etc › John's Warning by sonmvayina(op): 3:27pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
This is an excerpt from the gospel of John, chapter 3...was John not warning us about the bull shiit in Mathew and luke Jesus' s parentage?
Jesus is quoted as saying spirit beget spirit and flesh beget flesh..
What is the proper understanding of the passages in context..
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Christianity Etc › Re: People Have Defiled The Earth. The Sky decays by sonmvayina(m): 3:07pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
The earth our mother.... Please,forgive us, we have defiled you for so long.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by sonmvayina(m): 3:03pm On Jun 08, 2020 |
I want to suggest something... Let us take out Satan from the equation..the narrative becomes clearer. I don't really know how he affect the equation.. If God says yes, the final outcome will be Yes, if God says No the final out come will be No.. ALL power belongs to God..so says Peter in his epistle.
I wonder where Christians get the power they give to Satan..
So since Satan has no effect on the final outcome.. Why introduce it into the equation, for all I care Satan =0...
If you do good God blesses you, if you do evil he punishes you.. He expects you to learn from your mistake, pick yourself up and keep moving. Confess your evil, forsake it and he will forgive and remember your sin NO MORE..
There was never any need for Jesus or Satan in the equation.. NEVER. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If You Miss HEAVEN, Who Will You Blame? by sonmvayina(m): 10:08am On Jun 08, 2020 |
Righteousness89: Well done sir! I hear you..
Rapture will Tell You are stuck on stupiiid |
Christianity Etc › Re: If You Miss HEAVEN, Who Will You Blame? by sonmvayina(m): 10:05am On Jun 08, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: No one can atone for my sin, what was Jesus doing on the cross, playing ludo?
So why haven't God time travel back to the beginning and start over, instead he's be killing people with disasters, flood, he brought his son and kill him too, that's not enough, he still plan on roasting some few more. That is what I am telling you, the Jesus story is fiction.. It has got nothing to do with God.. It is paganism rebranded.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If You Miss HEAVEN, Who Will You Blame? by sonmvayina(m): 9:17am On Jun 08, 2020 |
philiancoop: it's funny how everyone gets the chance to make the right choice, even God's deposit in them urges them on and they still decline. Trust me, my friend, no one will have an excuse. It's so simple, you've done wrong and you do daily. Jesus paid for all you and your ancestors did free of charge. No More karma punishment for you. only believe this is true and accept the offer.
By the way, I chose Jesus myself, when I saw I couldn't bare to pay for all my wrong, I simply accepted and that was all that was needed You have been lead through a wrong path, no body can atone for your sins for you... It is your soul that needs to be cleansed and be right with God... Nobody can do that for you.. Do it your self.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Resurrection: Why, What And How? By Femi Oyelade by sonmvayina(m): 6:41am On Jun 08, 2020 |
Image123: Who is nobody else? You interviewed them or you did carbon dating yet again to establish this new fact? Probably because it never happened... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Satan On Purpose or Unknowninly? by sonmvayina(m): 7:56pm On Jun 07, 2020 |
ghettokid1: NB: I'm 100% Catholic, I'm not an Atheist . . This is my full question: Q1. If God is loving and all-knowing, then he wouldn't have created Satan. (does it mean that he is not all-knowing and loving?) . Q2. If he is all-knowing and created satan, then he is not loving as claimed in the bible. (does it mean that he is not loving?) . Q3. If God is loving but created satan, then he doesn't know all things (he is not the God we imagine). (does it mean that he doesn't know all things?) . Q4. If God decides not to know the outcome of a particular event as claimed by piccolobrunelli (does it mean that he is careless? That He doesn't care about what he is creating?) . There is no such thing as Satan... I guess your brain created such a being.... The power of the mind.. I live that book, same as think and grow rich.. Good books.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If You Miss HEAVEN, Who Will You Blame? by sonmvayina(m): 7:51pm On Jun 07, 2020 |
STILL ON THE EXISTENCE OR OTHERWISE OF HEAVEN AND HELL Heaven may exist, but I doubt its existence since neither I nor any other person for that matter has ever tasted actual death to have been able to know what transpires at death; whereas, hell is absolutely nonexistent, for it's an impossibility for a good God to have created such a terrible place for his creatures and himself to stay till the end of time. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If You Miss HEAVEN, Who Will You Blame? by sonmvayina(m): 7:43pm On Jun 07, 2020 |
Xmuslim: I will join you please. We need to have fun with lthose virgins in the Muslim heaven  Nahhh, Muhammad already funked all of them... No virgin again.. Sorry. Didn't you get the memo? |