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PoliteActivist:
*Politeness*
THINK!!
If Davido were going around saying axe is evil and he wants nothing to do with them, and he never lets them anywhere near him, and at same time displaying the cross-arm sign everywhere, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU??!!

axe is a symbol, Davido can condemn cult group but have their symbols, In fact it is common for people to condemn something and yet they are part of it.
You are funny.

GodisStriking:
The Knights Templar was about killing pagans and stomping out evil that's why they were set up and framed. The order was abolished in 1314 and it never returned. Those stone masons were behind the setting up of the Knights Templar. King Baldwin IV of Jerusalem was of the tribe of Benjamin an Israelite, he wanted to marry an Arab noble lady to end the fighting. Whenever you are not married into a people they will always see you as a threat on their land, thus marrying them brings peace. But the negotiations broke down because the whites fear losing out because the Benjamin and Arabs were both Hebrews and they wouldn't be included. Thus when Sultan Salihudin took his army across the Holy Land the other knights stayed within their fortresses leaving only 120 Knights Templar to fight the 7,000 Muslims. After the Holy land was loss the Templars returned to an Europe in love with Sodomy, Pedophilia and Prostitution. Occult rituals were being done by the nobility and the clergy for money. The Templars with their vast wealth and purity were viewed as a threat. The stone masons spread rumors about the Templars through the rival Hospitalier Knights who had joined with stone masons. King Philip IV the king of France had united the whole kingdom under stone mason guilds, every occupation was organized into the cult. The Templars were attacked with a dawn raid everyone of them in France were in dungeons by the end of the day of Oct, 13th 1307. The only evidence against the Templars was a lone witness, a prostitute named Lovechat. That's why I asked, what's the secret connection between pedophiles and whores?

That is what you are told? Knight Templar just like the Freemasons were formed for control and to dominate. Occult societies are formed for control and power.

GodisStriking:
There is no link between the Knights Templar and Freemasonry Illuminati. Those Freemasons are using the Knights Templar just as same as the Jesuits are using the Vatican to hide behind their legacy.

The occult is as old as human society, as long as the devil is the god of this world they will continue to exist and be the means of obtaining power by carnal men.
Their connection or not does not matter so far they are having the same ultimate aim which is to steal, to kill and to destroy.

PoliteActivist:
*Politeness*
Bros anybody who takes this your thread serious has to be really naive and gullible.
Freemasons used to be a secret organization but now all their "secrets", including initiation rites, are out in the open and published in books and internet. You can become a Freemason if you wish - it is not hard.
Truly secret organizations do exist but they usually have no names and no one knows their symbols, but also they are usually not all that powerful.
So also the Jesuits of the Roman Catholic Church. The Jesuits that helped fight the crusades disappeared long ago. The Jesuits of today are neither military nor secret - the current pope is a Jesuit, and they don't want Freemasons as members of their church!
BTW how many "satanists or someone who worships other gods" has Nigeria elected lately??

see ignorance, you are just being fooled, the Vatican is just trying to maintain a false image the Vatican already has an equivalent if not more than freemasonry which is the knight Templar.
There are many signs and symbols you see everyday which you don't know it's meaning other than what you are told.
In the occult outsiders are deliberately mislead and even lower members do not know the truth until a certain level where there is no turning back.

PoliteActivist:
*Politeness*
You are not making sense. Example, everybody knows whose sign the crossed arms is. You display it everywhere and at same time say you're hiding you're an axe man. Does that make sense to you sir?

You are the one not making sense.
If you were not told will you know what it means?
Do you know the meaning of hidden in plain sight?
There are occult signs everywhere, but if you were not told what it means you won't know what it is, only adepts knows the true meaning.
You might think you know the meaning but for them it means another thing.

PoliteActivist:
But they display all the colors and signs you say they display. Why? To whom? To what end? Why no presence there??

to initiates.
The signs were for the inner circles.

Zxcvbnmghtr:
God? That's an English word. Lol

Allah does not mean God it is a name of an idol.

AntiChristian:
Even if all the mosques in Iran is closed, there are still many Muslim countries and no real Christian country!

Europe is reaping the consequences of their bigotry and terrorism. When you invade Muslim/destabilise lands they must move into your own land!

Abeg keep mute on Jewish prince!
Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam is dead let Christian prince die first up see!

Christian prince would not die but live to destabilize Islam and Converts Muslims and many other Christian princes would also rise. Meanwhile
Mohamad the mad man pedophile got poisoned and died like a rat ala couldn't save him what a powerless god allah is!
Worst of all allah is best of all decievers.

Allah has no power at all, just a dumb idol.

AntiChristian:

How many churches have been closed in Europe all together?

No be only Christian prince, na Jew Princess!

75% of mosque has being closed down in Iran meanwhile Europe is learning her lesson of accommodating mohammedians.
Christian prince is wrecking havoc on Islam.
Even the pedophile Mohammad wouldn't try call him.

Babangidapikin:
Can't they use 🐐 goat why always human being ...I think Government needs to seat and do a research on this issue, why must human blood be sacrifice..m

Stop worshipping the devil.

This is what you get in worshipping demons.

This is a tale.

AntiChristian:
So how does my moniker say I'm not of Allah?
I wonder who uses one Muslim person's judgement or utterances to pass judgement on all.

Like we have don't have many Christians who post nonsense about Islam here and everywhere!

You are of allah the devil.
Over 50, 000 musque were closed down in Iran.
There is a man debating and confounding Islamic clerics on YouTube, his name is Christian prince. All Muslim scholars runs away from him like cowards.

Whether first date,second or last date sex outside of marriage is a sin.
Whether you are religious or not everyone will give account of themselves to God.
Of every secret and open things they
have done.

Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

Steep:
Only the words that are necessary and sufficient enough those are what God gave us as scripture.
Imagine if every prophecy are included as scripture the whole words will not contain.
You and I do not have the power to decide what is necessary or when the revelations of God should end.

After the death of the apostles the scripture was closed, why the apostles were the ones that received authority directly from Jesus yo lead and teach the church.
I partly agree with you. After the death of the Apostles, the bible was complied but the idea that the revelations of God came to an end is your opinion and not supported by the word of God.
Every other pastor after them are just leaders of a local assembly which are subject to the teachings of the apostle.
Every true pastor is entitled to the direction of the spirit. Every true pastor is entitled to revelations. Every true pastor is entitled to receiving the word of God. The duty of a pastor is not just to read the bible to his sheep, anyone can do that. A pastor is entitled to receiving heavenly instructions just like the apostles did.

Oga you have no point at all.
No one can preach any gospel beside what the apostles have preached.
There is no revelation that can go beyond what the apostles have taught.

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

You think God is like a man that contradict himself, no he does not.

tctrills:
Sir I hope you read my last post in reply to these points you rose here. But now I want to point you to other verses in the bible to give you more understanding.
Let's begin with Revelations 19:10
And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
The highlighted phase gives us some answers.
The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
As long as the testimony of Christ has been present, there has always been the spirit of prophecy.
Prophecy would end only when the testimony of Jesus Christ ends.
Now to another verse.

Numbers 11:29
And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the Lord'S people were prophets, and that the Lord would put his spirit upon them!

God actually wants us all to be his prophets. We all can receive his revelations. Even though the bible is finished, revelations are not ended.
God still speaks to man

Only the words that are necessary and sufficient enough those are what God gave us as scripture.
Imagine if every prophecy are included as scripture the whole words will not contain.

After the death of the apostles the scripture was closed, why the apostles were the ones that received authority directly from Jesus yo lead and teach the church.
Every other pastor after them are just leaders of a local assembly which are subject to the teachings of the apostle.

tctrills:
Sir it's obvious that Paul speaks of spiritual gifts and he also clearly stated that he knows in part and prophesies in part. Or did you not read it.
Again what is the meaning of a mystery?
It means something that is difficult or impossible to understand or explain.
Does this mean that everything about Christ has been revealed.
Do you really think that everything God knows can be contained in the 66 books in the bible.
Oga there are more things about God that are not in the bible then what we have in the bible.
All the books cannot contain all the works of God.
Again why would God raise up 2 witnesses at the last days if the bible contained everything.
You have so many questions unanswered.

We are talking of scriptures, which is specifically for the purpose of revealing christ and guiding the doctrines including making corrections.
You have to understand that context is important in anything, "The mystery of Christ" is actually referred to the plan of salvation for men in christ Jesus and that is the ultimate purpose of the scripture, that mystery has already being revealed and this also include the book of revelations ehich shows us the future the event leading to the coming of Jesus kingdom.l
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

You ignored where I told you God still reveals things but they are subject of scriptures.
Every prophecy has a purpose but only the scriptures can form the basis of doctrines and teachings for the church. The scripture is literally the authority by which all other prophecy would be judged.
In the days of Moses there were prophets who prophesy yet none of them had their prophecy as scripture, in time of Paul and the other apostles there were prophets and teachers but none of them were recognized as scripture.

God's knowledge is infinite but he only reveals what is necessary and sufficient for us.
Even when Paul was taken to the third heaven he was not allowed to reveal anything why its not necessary for the church to know.

"We know in part, prophecy in part" This is our individual knowledge of God and of his kingdom.
What God has given us is all we need to know to enable is to be fruitful and bring others to christ and that is the scriptures.

tctrills:
Oga you obviously did not read it. Here is the very first line,
For we know in part and we prophesy in part...
Even the apostles of Christ only knew part and prophesied in part. So there again, you are wrong.

start from the beginning of chapter 13, Paul is speaking of spiritual gift. The scripture is completed. Paul already said the mysteries of christ has being revealed, but that does not mean God no longer reveals things but however they are subject to scriptures.

tctrills:
Now you are all over the place and still you are yet to point to any verse that says God has revealed everything to mankind. Or that God would never speak again to mankind or that the apostles had all knowledge. Both John and Paul taught about salvation.
Please listen to the words of Paul below

Corinthians 13:9-12
For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
Paul never claimed to know it all. You are clearly wrong.
If God has finished all his revelations than why would he send 2 witnesses in the last days
Revelations 11.3
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Do you not see that your argument is faulty?

You are muddling up scriptures.
In 1 cor 13 Paul was talking of spiritual gifts and its exercise not scipriture.

tctrills:
Oga this verse never said God has revealed all his words or mysteries.
Let me tell you sir neither Paul or John knows all the mysteries of God.
Ecclesiastes 8:16-17
16 I tried to understand all that happens on earth. I saw how busy people are, working day and night and hardly ever sleeping. 17 I also saw all that God has done. Nobody can understand what God does here on earth. No matter how hard people try to understand it, they cannot. Even if wise people say they understand, they cannot; no one can really understand it.
There is so much about God that the apostles did not know. And so much man is yet to know.

what you wrote up there is totally unrelated.
The scripture is not man trying to find the secret of God but God revealing his Son Jesus christ.

John's revelation was concerning the things that was going to happen in the future.
While the mystery that Paul is talking about is about the salvation through Jesus christ.
You can't add to either.

tctrills:
Oga if the mysteries has all been revealed to Paul then there wouldn't have been a need for John to write the book of Revelations. Clearly you misunderstood the scriptures there.

John's revelation was concerning th things that was going to happen in the future.
While the mystery that Paul is talking about is about the salvation through Jesus christ.
You cannot add to either one.

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No you can't add to the scriptures, the mystery of christ has already being revealed.
Ephesians 3:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

Note the mysteries of christ was revealed to his apostles and prophets.

Ephesians 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

Colossians 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Note, Paul said The mystery of his will has being made known.
God's revelation for his church has already being revealed so scripture is closed.

tctrills:
So no one is asking for books to be added to the bible. But then are you saying that other revelations of God outside the bible are wrong or are you saying that God has only given revelations to the writers of the bible?
Again, was David a prophet, was Ruth a prophet, was Luke an apostle?
Where was it written that only the writings of prophets are the word of God?

The books
David, and Ruth where acknowledged as scriptures by the prophets and apostles, Luke was an eye witnesses of Jesus and he also accompanied Paul hence his book was acknowledged as scripture.
Read again, I didn't say another revelation is a lie, rather
1. It must agree with the bible (scripture)
2. It is limited (either to a local church or an individual)

No other revelation can ever become part of scripture, the Bible is complete.

The scripture was either written dirctly by the prophets or apostles or confirmed and acknowledged by them.
After the death of the apostles no other person. Hence Paul said they (the apostles were the last).

The two groups of people that christians were commanded to be mindful of are the prophets and the apostles.

2 Peter 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

So the words of the apostles and the prophets are the authority.

Readup on the canonization of scriptures and the history of the church.

tctrills:
Any quotes please.
I understand that you have expressed your opinion but if you don't have any passage of scripture express the same views, then it would be clear that you are only spreading a personal opinion.

First and foremost, books are not just added to the scripture, there it must be by the holy Spirit and there must be witness.
The scripture is about the life, death and resurrection of Jesus christ as well as prophecies about his future coming, this consummated at Revelation.
No one can add to what has already being g revealed.
Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

And lastly, the scriptures came from the prophets and 12 apostles ( Paul was latter added, his apostleship Confirmed by peter)

Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

In other words the scupture were the the prophets and apostles because they were the foundation their words is binding on the whole church. Every other minister do not have such, their authority and words are limited to the local church and can be set aside by the scripture.

tctrills:
You showed a few verses but none of them indicated in anyway that revelations ended with the apostles so where did you get that idea.
Now let me point you to another verse.
Acts 2
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

I hope this has changed your mind.

The holy Spirit works according to the plan and order of the father.
According to the plan and order of the father the apostles has being set to be the last to recieve any new revelation about the church.

tctrills:
The story of the bible began before the creation but suddenly ends at the book of revelations.
Why do you think it stopped? Here are two possible reasons, what do you think.
1. God has already revealed everything to mankind
2. There was no one qualified to record the words and revelations of God.

Any new revelation for the church eneded with the twelve apostles.
Why? Because The are the foundations of the church.

Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

Note Paul said they (the apostles of Jesus) were set to be last.
The last to be given any new revelation about the mysteries of the kingdom.
Any pastor or whoever it maybe that claim to have a new revelation concerning christ and his kingdom is lying.

1 Corinthians 4:9 For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.

Righteousness2:
Operation Pursue, Overtake and recover all!!
Israelites of today are taking after their Fore Fathers.

GOD Bless the Nation of Israel.

Israel of today are not taking after their fore fathers. They are still in bondage to sin like the rest of humanity, only if they turn to the messiah will they truly recover their glory.

Steep:
You don't know what you are talking about?
Who says you are going to heaven, every human being by virtue of their sin are naturally heading to hell.

Jesus said it is better for you to enter life maim than to enter hell with full body, hell is horrible, heart braking, hopeless, bitter, and full of wailing and gnashing of teeth.
No food, no water , no sleep or rest of any kind, no light ( imagine never to see anything anymore, only memories of the past),

Multiply all these and many more by a 1000 then you begin to get a glimpse of what hell is like.

Gafferde:
For me, I don’t know why people fantasize about going to heaven.

To sing, and worship forever? No day, no night, no improvements, no growth, no need for food, no sex, no pain, no motivation, nothing… just an unending sessions of people wearing whites garments singing around.

Sing for the first 10 years. Not tiring. Then sing another 2956 billion years. Nothing special. It sounds robotic and monotonous.

Heaven doesn’t sound like anything interesting to me. It may be a great venue for you. To each is own. If I should choose, I will prefer to stay dead when I die… I want to decay, and turn to elements of the earth.

I am not interested in heaven or hell. They are both bizzare and weird. In one you burn and cry without end. In the other, you rejoice without end.

Extreme cases. If they exist, I am not interested.

Of course, I would change my stance if I see a better explanation. But for now… the description of heaven is a very boring place.

#think

Cc. Ifeanyi eze

You don't know what you are talking about?
Who says you are going to heaven, every human being by virtue of their sin are naturally heading to hell.

Jesus said it is better for you to enter life maim than to enter hell with full body, hell is horrible, heart braking, hopeless, bitter, and full of wailing and gnashing of teeth.
No food, no water , no sleep or rest of any kind, no light ( imagine never to see anything anymore, only memories of the past),

I thank God for your life.
Only Jesus christ the Lamb of God can provide righteousness for humanity no one can become righteous through their works.

MaxInDHouse:
Most churchgoers now know that only Jehovah's Witnesses have the truth but instead of them to humbly join us they are rebelling against their pastors expecting them to start doing like Jehovah's Witnesses.
Please ask Nairalanders to mention the name of their church and see how shameful they are about their churches because they now know their pastors are exploiting them unlike Jehovah's Witnesses who are enjoying the benefits of being believers in Christ!

Abeg what was the name of the church Paul, Peter, and the disciples of Jesus attended?

A lot of pastors both in the evangelical/penticostal and charismatics are in the occult.

gammarays:
Star of David and co are core Jewish symbols before it was copied by Freemasons.
So people should stop using cross symbols too because it's used by Freemasons?

I also read the post where you needed 2 mansions, one in Lagos and the other in Ota 😂😂😂

Chai, go for deliverance poster

Star of star of David is from kabbalah, kabbalah is a Jewish mystic occult.

It actually a symbol of idols.

Amos 5:26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.

There is really no such thing as star of David it is just a rebranded name of what it really means.