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Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Bibilical To Divorce In This Condition? by Steep(m): 10:01pm On Apr 11, 2022
Truvelisback:
There things we apply wisdom and discretion so far it does not contravention God's word.

1. Did Jesus say that there should be separation, when issue like this arise? 2. What was Jesus reply to them?
what is against the law ? Divorce, unjustifiable divorce.
Even if a woman separate without the bill divorce she is married.

1 Corinthians 7:39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.

If she didn't divorce her husband she is hasn't broken the marital vow.

Again unbelievers can decide to leave permanent in that case the other spouse is free.
Jesus did not also address this but it was addressed by Paul the apostle.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Bibilical To Divorce In This Condition? by Steep(m): 9:40pm On Apr 11, 2022
Truvelisback:
Back ur point up with scripture.
Divorce always involve the issuance of bill of divorcement.
Any other separation is not actually divorce.

Mark 10:4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Bibilical To Divorce In This Condition? by Steep(m): 9:38pm On Apr 11, 2022
Kobojunkie:
So, God's curse in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22, is not a curse? Then what is it? God's blessings?. undecided
The curse on marriage is not one of submission but on the type of leadership a woman would go endure.
Adam was always the leader, it was made that way but when sin came that headship became a curse to the woman. In Christ that curse is removed but the headship remains.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Bibilical To Divorce In This Condition? by Steep(m): 9:32pm On Apr 11, 2022
Truvelisback:
Even if she leaves the marriage of which i know it's not Biblical for her to do so, and the man marries another woman, would she remain unmarried all the days of her life/until her husband dies?
she leaving is not same as divorce, in divorce the marriage she no longer is his wife.
A bill of divorce is tendered signifying an end to the marriage but in this kind of separation she leaves the house until her conditions are met.

If her husband marries another woman, she still remain his legal wife as long as she was not divorced.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Bibilical To Divorce In This Condition? by Steep(m): 9:27pm On Apr 11, 2022
Truvelisback:
But the Bible is against divorce. Jesus said, on no circumstance should one divorce except for adultery. Apostle also repeated the same in the Book of 1Cor7:9.
I have edited it.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Godhead Evidence Jesus Is Truly God. by Steep(op): 9:27pm On Apr 11, 2022
Ammishaddai:
You seem to forget that Jesus always spoke about His father and one of his disciples (Philip) wanted to see His father. Which was why he said "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."

From the bolded, it is clear that His disciples wanted visual proof of the person Jesus had spoken so much about . And Jesus plainly told them He was the Father in the following verse .
"He that has seen me has seen the father" is not the same as "I am the father".

Jesus is the image of the invisible God so all who saw Jesus saw the father but however Jesus is not the father.


His response fits perfectly well with Isaiah9:6 which foretells of the coming messiah who was to be called "The everlasting father, The Prince of Peace
Jesus is the father of the new human race just as Adam is the father of the old human race. Jesus is called the everlasting father because he is the father of the new human race.
God the father is the primary source and giver of all things, the word is the means through which all things are given
Evidence of the Trinity is even in the old testament in Genesis 1 vv 26 God said "let us create man in our image" Meaning God is a multipersonal being.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Bibilical To Divorce In This Condition? by Steep(m):
Truvelisback:
What if it repeats itself?
If it repeats itself, the spouse to separate until there is a permanent change. There is no ground for separation apart from adultery and abandonment. Even at that there could be room for reconciliation.

Cc Truvelisback
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Bibilical To Divorce In This Condition? by Steep(m): 8:52pm On Apr 11, 2022
Truvelisback:
Why?
I meant to say temporary separation
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Bibilical To Divorce In This Condition? by Steep(m): 8:50pm On Apr 11, 2022
Truvelisback:
Isn't it the same as divorce?
no, it is not divorce.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Bibilical To Divorce In This Condition? by Steep(m): 8:49pm On Apr 11, 2022
The reason there is so much problem and suffering in the world is because the human race is living in disobedience against God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Bibilical To Divorce In This Condition? by Steep(m): 8:42pm On Apr 11, 2022
Truvelisback:
TenQ and Steep, what do u have to say? The marriage vow says: For better, for worse. Jesus said: Thou shall not divorce except it has to do with Adultery. Anyone who marries outside this condition has committed Adultery.
The only condition for divorce is Adultery and again if the other partner decide to leave the other one is free.

But however, in cases of violence and threat to life, one can leave however he or she cannot remarry.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Godhead Evidence Jesus Is Truly God. by Steep(op):
Ammishaddai:
Jesus and God(The father)are the same person . Read John 14:9-15
Jesus didn't say he is the father but rather he is perfect reflection of the father so that anyone who sees him has seen the father.

See below,

Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
Christianity Etc › The Godhead Evidence Jesus Is Truly God. by Steep(op): 8:17pm On Apr 11, 2022
When people talk about the “Godhead,” they often use the term “Trinity” in reference to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The term “Trinity” is not in the Bible; however, that does not necessarily mean that the concept is unbiblical. Yet many believe that there is just one person of God and deny the concept of the “Trinity.”

In this article, we are going to look at what the Bible teaches about the Godhead – what it means and whether there are three persons of God or just one.

The Meaning of “Godhead”
The term “Godhead” is used three times in the Bible:

“Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device” (Acts 17:29, KJV).

“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse” (Romans 1:20, KJV).

“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily” (Colossians 2:9, KJV).

Other translations (NASB, NIV, ESV) use different terms in place of “Godhead” – divine nature/being (Acts 17:29), divine nature (Romans 1:20), and deity (Colossians 2:9). These are helpful in understanding the meaning of the term.

“Godhead” is about nature or possessing the characteristics of God. Another term that may be easier to understand would be “Godhood.” This would be similar to “manhood” or “brotherhood” – possessing the characteristics of “men” or “brethren.” Those in the “Godhead” are part of the “Godhood” – possessing the characteristics of God.

What are the characteristics of God? There are several given to us in the Scriptures:

Eternality – God has no beginning and no end. “Before the mountains were born or You gave birth to the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God” (Psalm 90:2).
Immutability – To be immutable means that God is unchanging. “For I, the Lord, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed” (Malachi 3:6).
Omnipotence – This means that God is all-powerful. When God appeared to Abram, He said, “I am God Almighty; walk before Me, and be blameless” (Genesis 17:1). The word “Almighty” means most powerful.
Omniscience – This refers to the fact that God is all-knowing. David described this in detail: “O Lord, You have searched me and known me. You know when I sit down and when I rise up; You understand my thought from afar. You scrutinize my path and my lying down, and are intimately acquainted with all my ways. Even before there is a word on my tongue, behold, O Lord, You know it all” (Psalm 139:1-4). God knows everything about us, no matter where we are or what we do.
Omnipresence – David wrote, “Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there” (Psalm 139:7-8 ). When we refer to God as being omnipresent (present everywhere), we use the term in an accommodative sense. God is in heaven (Ecclesiastes 5:2; Matthew 6:9) unless He comes down to earth (Genesis 11:5). But this is related to the previous point. His omniscience makes it as if He were present everywhere even though He resides in heaven.
Any entity that possesses the characteristics described above can accurately be recognized as part of the “Godhead” or “Godhood” since they share the characteristics of God.

There Is One God
Monotheism (the belief in one deity) was unique to God’s people in the Old Testament. Moses said, “Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one!” (Deuteronomy 6:4). The Lord said, “Remember the former things long past, for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me” (Isaiah 46:9). The idea was clearly expressed that there was only one God. He commanded the people, “You shall have no other gods before Me” (Exodus 20:3). This would have been different from the surrounding nations who served many “gods” (cf. Joshua 24:14-15).

In the first century, the Gentile nations also served many “gods.” When Paul was in Athens “his spirit was being provoked within him as he was observing the city full of idols” (Acts 17:16). In writing to the brethren in Corinth, Paul said there were “so-called gods…many gods and many lords” (1 Corinthians 8:5).

However, the New Testament plainly teaches that there is one God. Paul described the idols as “so-called gods” because “there is no such thing as an idol in the world, and that there is no God but one” (1 Corinthians 8:4-5). He added, “There is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him” (1 Corinthians 8:6). He told the Ephesians that there is “one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all” (Ephesians 4:6).

There Are Three Persons of God
While the Scriptures are clear that there is one God, they also describe three persons of God. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are each referred to as “God” in the New Testament.

The Father is God – “For when He received honor and glory from God the Father, such an utterance as this was made to Him by the Majestic Glory, ‘This is My beloved Son with whom I am well-pleased’” (2 Peter 1:17).
The Son (Jesus) is God – “But of the Son He says, ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the righteous scepter is the scepter of His kingdom” (Hebrews 1:8 ).
The Holy Spirit is God – “But Peter said, ‘Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back some of the price of land? […] You have not lied to men but to God’” (Acts 5:3-4).
Though we do not find the term “Trinity” being used in the Bible, we can see from the passages above that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all God. This means that as members of the Godhead, they share the characteristics of God that we noticed earlier.

There are several Old Testament passages that teach the concept of the “Trinity”:

In the Creation – “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters” (Genesis 1:1-2). This passage mentions God and the Spirit. In a parallel passage, John described the Word – Jesus (John 1:14) – also being present and instrumental in Creation (John 1:1-3).
In creating man – “Then God said, ‘Let us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness…’ God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them” (Genesis 1:26-27). “Us” does not include angels as some have supposed. We know this because man was made “in the image of God” – not in the image of angels. Therefore, we can conclude from this passage that “God” includes more than one person.
After the fall of Adam and Eve – “The the Lord God said, ‘Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil…” (Genesis 3:22). Again, the plural pronoun “Us” is used for God.
In scattering the people at Babel – “The Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built. The Lord said, ‘Behold, they are one people, and they all have the same language. And this is what they began to do, and now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them. Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, so that they will not understand one another’s speech.’ So the Lord scattered them abroad from there over the face of the whole earth; and they stopped building the city” (Genesis 11:5-8 ). This is another instance in which “The Lord” is referenced using the plural pronoun “Us.”
Isaiah’s commission – “Then I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, ‘Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?’ Then I said, ‘Here am I. Send me!’” (Isaiah 6:8 ). This passage makes the same point as the previous one.
The prophecy of Christ’s reign – “The Lord says to my Lord: ‘Sit at My right hand until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet’” (Psalm 110:1). The Hebrew writer quoted this passage and emphasized the fact that the Lord was not referring to angels (Hebrews 1:13). Instead, this is about the Father and the Son (Hebrews 1:5).
Though the concept of the “Trinity” can be seen in the Old Testament, there were not many details given. However, the New Testament reveals this concept more completely, providing us with additional information about the three distinct persons of God.

At the baptism of Jesus – “After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him, and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, ‘This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased’” (Matthew 3:16-17). The voice from heaven was that of the Father. Distinct from Him was Jesus who was “being baptized” and the Holy Spirit who was “descending as a dove.”
In the Great Commission – “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19). Jesus indicated that those who would be His disciples were to be baptized in the name of three persons – the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Sending “the Helper” to the apostles – “When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me” (John 15:26). As Jesus gave this promise to His apostles, He clearly articulated the fact that the Father, the Spirit, and Himself were three distinct persons.
The closing of Paul’s second letter to Corinth – “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all” (2 Corinthians 13:14). In closing his epistle, Paul highlighted certain blessings we have from God. In doing so, he emphasized each person of the Godhead.
Part of our “platform” for unity – “There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all” (Ephesians 4:4-6). In describing all of the ones that form the basis for our unity as Christians, it is significant that Paul described all three persons of deity.
Their work in the scheme of redemption – “According to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: May grace and peace be yours in the fullest measure” (1 Peter 1:2). Peter explained that all three persons of the Godhead each had their own role in our salvation.
Jude’s admonition – “But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life” (Jude 20-21). Like Paul in his second letter to Corinth, Jude closed his letter by mentioning certain benefits we derive from each person of God.
The opening of the book of Revelation – “John to the seven churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace, from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth” (Revelation 1:4-5). John described one who was eternal, the Spirit (described symbolically, since Revelation was filled with symbolic language, as “the seven Spirits”), and Jesus Christ. The one “who is and who was and who is to come” referred to God the Father. This is not to say that Jesus and the Holy Spirit were not eternal, but this trait was emphasized for the Father in this passage.
Some people claim that Jesus is the only person of God. Yet He plainly stated that He was distinct from the Father. In defending the claims He was making about Himself, Jesus said, “Even in your law it has been written that the testimony of two men is true. I am He who testifies about Myself, and the Father who sent Me testifies about Me” (John 8:17-18). If Jesus and the Father were the same person, His argument would have been absurd. He told His disciples, “I am the vine, and My Father is the vinedresser” (John 15:1). Referring to the final day of judgment, Jesus said, “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone” (Matthew 24:36). If the Father alone knows when that day will be and the Son does not know, then there cannot be only one person of God.

Jesus also made it clear that He was distinct from the Holy Spirit. Jesus said, “Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come” (Matthew 12:32). The consequences for speaking against Jesus and the Holy Spirit were different, clearly indicating that Jesus and the Holy Spirit were two different persons.

Conclusion
The Scriptures teach that there is one God and three distinct persons of God – the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. They have worked together in order to make our salvation possible (1 Peter 1:2). Therefore, it is important that we understand and appreciate the roles that each one fulfilled in making eternal life available to us
Family › Re: Flee Woman! Flee!! Flee!!! by Steep(m): 4:51pm On Apr 11, 2022
This is why one must carefully and prayerfully know who they are to marry. For an unbeliever anything goes but for a Christian one must be careful. There are two categories of humans, those who are children of the devil and those who are children of God.

Light have no business with darkness.
But when one is already married to an unbeliever one must be very careful and prayerful.

Life is not a joke.
Christianity Etc › Yet Another Evidence Of Jesus Divinity In The Bible by Steep(op):
Another evidence of Jesus divinity in the bible is the use of 'I AM', I AM HE'.

One of the ways Jehovah used to describe himself is the use of 'I AM', 'I AM HE'.




Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

43:25 I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Jesus could have said before Abraham was I but rather he used a present tense instead of a past one. This is the way yahweh used to describe his being.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Christianity Etc › Re: Evidence In The Bible That Jesus Is Truly God. by Steep(op): 1:40pm On Apr 11, 2022
Steep:
One of the many evidence in the bible that Jesus is truly God is the confession of his disciples.


John 16:30 Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God.

They confessed that Jesus knows all things both past , present and future.
Christianity Etc › Re: Evidence In The Bible That Jesus Is Truly God. by Steep(op): 11:04am On Apr 11, 2022
AgirlsNightmAre:
See there's one thing I always tell people, if you know history very well, you can't be easily deceived
Most of the doctrines and practices in mainstream churches were formulated in the council of Nicea
Do you know what the council at nicaea is? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Evidence In The Bible That Jesus Is Truly God. by Steep(op): 9:15am On Apr 11, 2022
cornelboy:
You added past present and future yourself. If that's the case, even Satan know all things.

Remember Jesus said he didn't know the time he will come back.

And that verse clearly said he's from God.

John 20:17 shows that Jesus has a superior God and Father.
Peace.
First of all, the disciples confessed that Jesus knows all things which confirms his divinity as truly God.

The devil doesn't know all things only God does. Yes Jesus is from God but he is also God, just as the light that Comes from the sun is also called sun.


If Jesus said he does not know the time of his coming, that was because he spoke in his human capacity.
Christianity Etc › Re: Evidence In The Bible That Jesus Is Truly God. by Steep(op): 1:14am On Apr 11, 2022
Electrochemistry:
If you people are here arguing about whether Jesus Christ is God or not then you have not been reading your Bibles. Evidence abounds everywhere in the Bible that He's God.


The most recognized of Isaiah's prophecies is,

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6),

which emphatically states that Jesus is God and the Father.

Another of Isaiah's prophecies is,

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel (Isaiah 7:14).

and when it is lined up with the parallel scripture from the New Testament, it tells us that Jesus is God with us:

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us (Matthew 1:23).
Jesus christ is God, inspire if the evidence some deny it because they cannot accept it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Evidence In The Bible That Jesus Is Truly God. by Steep(op): 12:36am On Apr 11, 2022
mariovito:
Are you aware that up until 325AD, there was no generally accepted persona for Jesus?

Are you aware that it was at the Council of Nicaea that a generally accepted doctrine of the persona and character of Jesus was finalized?

Are you aware that it was at that meeting that Jesus was "agreed" to be God?
The fact of Jesus being God has being known right from the first century.
It was not the council at Nicea , the council only find a name for the existence of God in three persons in the bible, that called it Trinity.
Christianity Etc › Re: Evidence In The Bible That Jesus Is Truly God. by Steep(op): 12:33am On Apr 11, 2022
Rexymania:
There's a big difference between camest forth from God and being God. One thing you Christians love doing is looking for slight evidence to protray Jesus as God and he isn't. He came from God, but not God
Acknowledging that Jesus came from God does not negate his being God just as sun light comes from the sun doesn't negate the sunlight from being the sun.

They acknowledge that Jesus knows all things, meaning Jesus is all knowing, which means he is truly God.
Christianity Etc › Evidence In The Bible That Jesus Is Truly God. by Steep(op): 11:27pm On Apr 10, 2022
One of the many evidence in the bible that Jesus is truly God is the confession of his disciples.


John 16:30 Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God.

They confessed that Jesus knows all things both past , present and future.
Christianity Etc › Re: "Did Jesus Raise Himself From The Grave Or Did God Do It?" by Steep(m):
Janosky:
Genesis 49:3.
"Reuben, you are my firstborn
my might and the beginning of my strength, Preeminent in dignity and preeminent in power"

Genesis 49:3, , Oga, biblically, how is Reuben Preeminent?
How is Reuben firstborn?
Genesis 49:3, Reuben is "first in rank" of whom?



In OLAADEGBU's Bible, Christ is NOT the Creator, God his Father is the Creator.
Oga, Hebrews 1:2, God MADE the Universe THROUGH His what?

You bought a plot of land through your son.
Who bought/own that land?

Colossians 1:16=Hebrews 1:2= John 1:3
= 1 Corinthians 8:6.


Trinitarians Interprete Hebrews 1:2, John 1:3 & Colossians 1:16 to suit Trinity GIBBERISH .
Trinity devotees CHANGE the meaning of the Greek word "DIA" /English word "THROUGH"
"The Channel/Agency of an act " (of Creation).
Oga, your own Bible says Jesus is NOT the Creator.
Hebrew 1:2 screenshot proven that.
The same thoughts expressed in John 1:3 & Colossians 1:16
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first born used in the bible is not always literal. It is used to denote superiority other times.
Firstborn over all creation means pre-eminence.
Actually, yahweh said he created the heavens and the earth by himself.

Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

He didn't create anything through another being.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do You Love Jesus? Why Do We Like Dead People by Steep(m):
Jesus is alive not dead.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Were The Sons Of God in The Bible? As Written In Genesis Chapter 6:2 by Steep(m): 11:09pm On Apr 09, 2022
Truvelisback:
Not all, otherwise the Bible would have indicated.
There is no Word like fallen angels in the bible that is because fallen angels are angels but they have rebelled.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Were The Sons Of God in The Bible? As Written In Genesis Chapter 6:2 by Steep(m): 10:47pm On Apr 09, 2022
Truvelisback:
Not necessarily fallen Angels rather Angels of God(including Satan).
They are fallen angels. Satan is a fallen angel including all other demons.
Christianity Etc › Re: "Did Jesus Raise Himself From The Grave Or Did God Do It?" by Steep(m):
OLAADEGBU:
Jesus, speaking of His body said, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." (John 2:19). Which leads to the question:

"Did Jesus raise Himself from the grave or did God do it?"

Read More Here
Jesus, his father, and the holy Spirit resurrected Jesus, just as they all carried out the work of creation.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Were The Sons Of God in The Bible? As Written In Genesis Chapter 6:2 by Steep(m):
Princechinox:
Pleaae, I'm here to learn...
The sons of God are possibly fallen angels.
One objection to this, is that the bible said angels do not marry in heaven but at the same time angels do not marry is not same as angels cannot marry.
It is known in the bible that angels can materialize as humans sometimes to deliver a message.
If angels do not marry same cannot be said for fallen angels who do not care about God's order.

2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;


These verse above seem to suggest that the sons of God in Genesis were angels.
Those angels were imprisoned.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are You Prepared For The New World Order by Steep(m): 8:16am On Apr 09, 2022
Truthwords:
There are several distractions in the world today . Do not be asleep. Be alert. I just thought i should share this video, its worth seeing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_T3SmA25JE
Yeap, I said it, that the Ukraine vv Russia War is all about deceiving people to long for a new world order.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Jesus defended his Godhood using psalm 82 vv 6 by Steep(op): 7:56am On Apr 09, 2022
haekymbahd:
Stop deceiving yourself Jesus didn't call himself I am that I am

In old testament "I will be what I will be" was the name of God.

How does "I am" correlate with I will be what I will be or I am what I am" because it gives a different meaning entirely.


According to the bible verse Jesus was trying to say he existed before Abraham.


The moment you separate I AM from I AM WHAT I AM then you are saying something else entirely...


the word used was not English but Greek. You can twist English the way you like to suit you. Try to compare the original Greek word used in that passage with the old testament you will discover you are being dubious



I keep wondering why author of the bible used "I Am" instead of "I will be"


Before Abraham was, "I am"
Before Abraham was, I will be

That's one of the corruption of the bible.
'I AM' is God's name.

Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, "I AM" hath sent me unto you.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.


Jesus didn't say before Abraham was he was. That would have meant He simply lived before Abraham but he used the word "I AM" instead showing he is God that lives forever and ever.
Christianity Etc › True Faith Rest On The Fact That The Scriptures Are True And Real. by Steep(op): 10:46pm On Apr 08, 2022
Faith is like an investment, you can only invest in what you know is true and real. You can only believe in what you know is true and real.


First and foremost, salvation is by faith in christ alone. However, one can only have true faith if one believe what is written in the bible is true and real. What we have most often is that people read into the scriptures what they think, instead of allowing the scripture to stand alone without any interference.

The truth can only be known when scripture is allowed to speak for itself.

Scripture declares Jesus as God who also took on human nature.
Jesus spoke of the father as a person distinct from him not an office or position Jesus took in heaven. Jesus had a living relationship with the father.
Jesus spoke of the holy spirit as a person, the spirit spoke too.

When one understood the scriptures that it is real that all what Jesus said is true, one would believe in the Trinity. People who don't believe the Trinity do not really yet understand the scripture that it is real and true, and cannot have real faith in christ.

How do have faith in christ if what he said about the father and the holy spirit you do not accept.

Jesus is the Son of God that is why we could put our faith in him. We cannot put our faith in a mere man or any creature.

We can only have faith in Jesus when we realise that Jesus is not a mere man but God and all he said were absolutely true.
Peter and the apostles remained with Jesus because they saw that only Jesus have the words of eternal life.

The sacrifice of Jesus
The sacrifice of Jesus upholds al of God's characters with absolutely no compromise.

Believing in the death and resurrection of Jesus means we believe in the true God.

Those who don't believe the death and resurrection of Jesus do not believe in the true God, they believe in a lie.

The true God is Holy, righteous, true and just, he also is a God of love, mercy, and faithful.

God is Holy means God cannot tolerate even the tiniest bit of sin, places highest price against sin which is death both physical and spiritual.

The death of Jesus demonstrated God's faithfulness, justice, righteousness, and his love.
God's justice demands the penalty for sin, God didn't contradict himself by sweeping away justice or doing away with it for that is against God's righteous nature.
God's love provided the one to take the justice, Jesus faithfully fulfilled all that was written of him. On the third day God raised Jesus from the dead demonstrating his faithfulness and truth.

Our faith rest on this! God is unwavering, just and yet could demonstrate so much love without contradicting himself. Such a God is worthy of trust and since he faithfully raised Jesus from the dead then he would also raise us up again at christ coming. If christ died and resurrected from the grave as written in the scriptures then he is definitely coming back because it is written in that same scripture.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Jesus defended his Godhood using psalm 82 vv 6 by Steep(op): 7:06pm On Apr 08, 2022
haekymbahd:
Please kindly tell us the difference between God and god because we clearly read Jesus rejecting to be God
The English translation of the scriptures uses 'God' to differentiate the true God from false 'gods'.
Jesus never rejected his God hood but rather he affirmed it

Mark 10
18 And Jesus said to him, Why do you call Me [[m]essentially and perfectly [n]morally] good? There is no one [[o]essentially and perfectly [p]morally] good--except God alone.

Thank you
Jesus did not say he wasn't good. He called himself the good Shepherd John 10vv11, 14.
Jesus was only passing a message that humans are not inherently good. Goodness is a quality of God's nature not man, so the goodness people saw in Jesus is because he his more than just a man, He is the Son of God.


2. According to Psalm 82:6 how many Gods exist in Christianity who are the Ye.

3. Did Jesus say he was God or god show your reference.
those are figurative, they were not truly God.
Jesus said he is the "I AM" which the jews clearly and unequivocal understand as Jehovah the Almighty God.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

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