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obonujoker:
I think Lucifer was a cherub or arch angel?

A cherub

What putin is doing is horrible.

Tmberwolf1:
Close your mouth! You don't know jack sh!t!! Those guys made the Taliban themselves (they were initially called the mujahideen).....
When the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan and overthrew their mornarchy, a freedom fighter group was formed called the mujahideen that fought to kick out the Soviets, these fighters were initially trained and armed by the CIA themselves. And after they had successfully kicked out the Soviets, the people voted overwhelmingly for an Islamic government ruling with Sharia law, and thus the mujahideen came to power and became the Taliban. They put themselves in that mess! People like you don't know shit! Don't read history or keep up with current political news, so to you everything is western propaganda because you have failed to enlighten yourself.

@bolded so the US created taliban indirectly.
Similarly, Osama bin laden was trained by the CIA, most people don't know the september 11 attack was an inside job.

A wise person should take to advice and warning and not feel pompous or know it all.

We should ready to listen and slow to speak.

Many want to be teachers but are not ready to be taught, the opposite of a meek person is a heady person. Meekness is of the Spirit while headiness is of the flesh.
Pride and vain glory are two reasons why people do not take instruction.
Being a bishop, general overseer, the most intelligent man or woman or whatever does not replace heeding to corrections and advice.

Proverbs 22:3 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.

Proverbs 27:12 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself; but the simple pass on, and are punished.

Moses was offered excellent advice by his father in law and he took it.


Moses would attend to Israel from morning to evening, Moses father in law warned him to stop putting such burden on himself possibly because it would have a toll on his health.
Although Moses was anointed but yet he took the advice.
Anointing cannot replace wisdom.

Exodus 18:14 And when Moses' father in law saw all that he did to the people, he said, What is this thing that thou doest to the people? why sittest thou thyself alone, and all the people stand by thee from morning unto even?

18:17 And Moses' father in law said unto him, The thing that thou doest is not good. 18:18 Thou wilt surely wear away, both thou, and this people that is with thee: for this thing is too heavy for thee; thou art not able to perform it thyself alone.

18:19 Hearken now unto my voice, I will give thee counsel, and God shall be with thee: Be thou for the people to God-ward, that thou mayest bring the causes unto God:


God told Abraham to listen to Sarah his wife, although Abraham was the head of his home and the promise carrer. He obeyed and listen to Sarah his wife.

Paul corrected Peter when he began to withdraw himself from the gentile Christians because of fear of his kinsmen
Even though Peter was the one that saw Jesus in the flesh, walked with Jesus, Jesus placed the leadership on Peter, and perhaps Peter older than Paul yet he took Paul's correction.

Never be bigger than taking advice and correction.

Aaronsrod:
Cherubs will meet us when we make Heaven.

When I see them on Christmas cards I smile in the knowledge of this.

I wonder how they will sing.

The image of those babies are not what the cherubim biblically look like.

chiefolododo:
Yes..

Cherubim protect the glory of God , because God himself is light and dwell and n light unapproachable, when the chief priest come to minster in His presence, He is too glorious, his glory must be covered so that the priest will not be consumed.


The Seraphim, these ones keep the jealousy of God. They are jealous for God, when Heod misyerned , they smote him immediately. Shalom

...of which we cannot now speak particularly...HEBREWS 9:5

Yeap

The cherubim are one of the types of angels mentioned in the bible.
The singular form is cherub while the plural form is cherubim.
The first time angels were mentioned in the bible was in Genesis and they were cherubims.

The form of two cherub were made facing each other with their wings torching each other while the ark of the Covenant was in the middle.

The image of the cherubim was woven in the coltons of the temples.

Genesis 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.


Exodus 37:9 And the cherubims spread out their wings on high, and covered with their wings over the mercy seat, with their faces one to another; even to the mercy seatward were the faces of the cherubims.


The mercy seat represents the God seat itself.
God is said to dwell in the midst of the cherubim,

The book of Ezekiel describe the awesome form of the cherubim.
Also I believe the four beast before the throne in Revelation are the cherubim.

Lucifer himself was a cherub.

Ezekiel 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

When Adam fell God place cherubim and a revolving sword of fire that turns every to prevent access to the garden

It seems cherubim are in charge of granting access or denying access.

The cherubim were placed overseeing the mercy seat of which access is not granted without the shedding blood and only for a limited time but thank God the blood of Jesus provide us with express and unlimited access to the mercy seat no wonder Hebrews saidwe should come bodly.

John was called into the revelation of end time events by the cherubim.
Each seal christ broke a cherub calls John to come and see.

Revelation 6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.


In Ezekiel the cherubim were describe as having a wheel within a wheel under them full of eyes and the rims so huge and on earth.
Above the cherubim was a firmament with a throne and someone seated on it.

The cherubim themselves had four faces each one of them
The face of a man the face of an ox or bull, the face of a lion and he face of an eagle.

But what do all these mean?
The wheels where on
earth and so huge, full of eyes and a wheel within a wheel represent the power of God that rules all things. Things happen because God allowed them to happen and all fulfill his will at the end.

The eyes is the fact that God is aware of everything happening, he sees everyone inside out. The word of is sharper than any two edged sword and nothing is hidden from his eyes. God sees all things and perfectly control of all things, we as believers in christ need not to be afraid.

The face of a lion represent the kingship of God and the fact that Jesus is the coming king.

The face of an eagle represent God's timeliness in all he does.

The face of a man represent God's uprightnes and wisdom in all he does.

The face of a bull or an ox represent God's ability to perform his will.

Messianic interpretation of the faces of the cherubim

Is it a coincidence that there are four books of the gospel, each book of the gospel focuses on specific character of christ.

Mathew focuses on the kingship of Jesus, that Jesus is the Son of David and hence the rightful heir to the throne of Israel-- the face of a lion.

Mark focuses on the fact that Jesus is the sufering servant, the burden carrier--- the face of an ox or bull.

Luke focus on the fact that Jesus Is a perfect sinless man --- the face of a man

John focus on Jesus divinity, John 1vv1 said Jesus is God--- the face of an eagle.


In the prophet revealed in his revelation The cherubim moves either to and from or side ways, they never turn, they move like lightening.

God never lies nor contradict himself, he is God the one that is always on time.

Jesus would someday appear as lightening appear in the sky and he would rule all nations with a rod of Iron and his kingdom shall last forever and ever. Amen.

Whd

The word "investment" is one of the most abused word in Nigeria.

Many years ago, the Lord gave me a somewhat glimpse into how heaven is.

Men! Words fail me. First of all, think of the best day of your life increase it to a million fold.
I realise that knowledge in heaven is purely divine, the first knowledge once in heaven is that one immediately knows the king of heaven is Jesus, nobody tells you.
It was as if a great marriage feast was being prepared.
The atmosphere of heaven is love itself, the light of heaven is not photon energy, it is alive it reveals the true nature of things, one can communicate with the light.
Characters such as hope, faithfulness, goodness, righteousness etc are materials in heaven.
The bible says righteousness and justice are the habitation of God's throne, meaning the very fabric of God's throne is righteousness and justice.Psalm 89 vv 14

Just as we have materials such as gold
,silver, steel, plastic, glass so the materials of heaven are Characters like truth, faithfulness, goodness, Meekness etc

Mehhh there Is no Words to describe it. When I woke up I became sad, earthly things are meaningless honestly. Our light is just empty photon energy.

I just laugh at what ignorant people think heaven is!

Honestly my explanation is far weak for the glimpse of what I saw.

Note what I saw was very brief, it as a shadow glimpse. What I can say is present life is too empty. I thank God always, for sending his Son Jesus to give me eternal life.

Tobedated:
As far as i know all heaven offer is
1 eternal life
2 peace
3 playing with wild animals
4 and praising god forever but what heaven takes away because of this should be scary
1 eternity - but doing what, have you ever stay home doing nothing before with no technology in heaven isn't that torture like can you imagine how your mental health will go in the drain from having nothing to do at least on earth you can kill yourself but don't forget eternal life damn.

2 peace is a good offer but once again at what cost remember in heaven there is no such thing as family as jesus explain with the women with multiple husband, all that makes life worth it is the friends and family one makes along the way all that gone because of peace that have no meaning because all you doing is one thing is it worth it also don't forget your friends from another religion all in hell

3 who the Bleep want that like that just stupid

4 can't that be done on earth where things are more fun than being an object showering god praise

ignorance!
You are like a man in a dark filthy room imagining the whole world must be like that too.

Heaven is a sinless and perfect place, even lucifer never wanted to leave heaven he was forced out of heaven. This present earth with all her technology past present and future is like poo hole compared to heaven.

False prophets and false teachers have increased. They are always after money and other materials, they are proud, boasters and very arrogant.
There is a reason you can get the bible freely these days, God wants you to know him personally and drink from the living water, when you drink from the living water you will never be thirsty again and you will never be taken advantage of.

This man is a false teacher.

Everything is being put in place by satan for the antichrist to rule.

Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

DECENTBWOY:

I wish hell is not real, because the Bible says God knows the end from the beginning and that he is a very loving God, now my question..


If he actually knew that you will come into this world, suffer then finally go to hell, why then did he create you, where is the love if actually he will send people he created in his own image to hell fire to suffer for eternity?

Make person explain because I'm not understanding..

God is loving that is why he provided a way of escape for you through the sacrifice of Jesus.
Note by nature we are all destiny to die and perish in hell but God showed us his love by sending Jesus. If we accept his love we will escape our due punishment if we reject we will justly be punished for our sins. God knowing our future before time does not mean he will force himself on us.
God created us irrespective of our choices he is glorified and his purpose fulfilled.

Yes God is all knowing and all powerful but he is also true , righteous, loving, just, faithful etc.

If we take into account these qualities it will make you understand why God would create both those who will abide in his love and those who will rebel against him inspite of knowing they will do so.

Jenny1010:
As a result of this heinous sin against God, Lucifer was banished from living in heaven and sent to hell (Isaiah 14:12).

So why is he now punishing those that was sent to hell like him? Why will he be tormenter of God's enemies whereas he is an enemy of God. Is the enemy of my enemy not my friend again?

where in the bible does it says the devil torment people in hell?

There is a topic on front page that says 'what is the benefit of being a good girl"

First and foremost Jesus said nobody is truly good but God.

Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

goodness just like righteousness is a character of God's nature unlike the nature of the devil which is sinful.

But however a person who has being reborn by the Spirit and the water of God share from God's divine nature of which goodness is part.
So a born again believer is good because God is good.

A son or daughter resembles his or her father,
A person that is born of God is good because God is good not because of any advantage or disadvantage in it.

1 John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

SeraphEl:
Op,

While Apostle Paul, admonition may have been instruction for churches beyond the local church at that point in time. However, today in most civilised regions, people or say women do not become disruptive in services any longer.

This instruction would also apply if it were the men who were being unruly in service.

It was addressed to women specifically because it turns out in the culture and at the time period, women were very influenced by goddess worship and eminence of women which enabled or emboldened women then to speak mostly out of cheer ignorance of scriptures and perhaps the need to assert dominance on men.

Possibly can be compared to the extreme feminist movements if exercised in church for today’s culture. THEN, would Pauls instruction apply for today.

But, nothing wrong with women in orderly and in good knowledge speak up in church; especially if called by GOD to such.

Of course women can speak but the manner of speaking makes the difference.
Well there is nothing like 'extreme feminism'.

The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation not any worldly ideology.

You want there to be change in the world preach christ.
1 Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

14:36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?

14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

First of all, This letter was to address orderliness in all christian churches. So Paul is not just addressing a local church but all the churches.
However, did Paul mean women can not speak in the church?
No!
"Speaking" in this context means speaking as to disrupt the service.

These women were simply being unruly and uncontrollable, so Paul commanded them not to speak by rather they should learn from their husbands at home.

The church is an orderly place, even speaking in tongues without interpretation in the church is disorderlines.
One may have knowledge, or gift but we must respect the order of God both in our lives and in the Church.
Nothing should be done out of vain glory or self exaltation.

The whole world is in wickedness. Freemsons, illuminati, knight Templar, skull and bones, Amorc, aye, pirate, nbm etc are all serving one master which is the devil. Of course members of these cults are decieved that it is for a good course.
The bible prohibits occultism, witchcraft, spiritism.
Those who serves idols( cults, confraternities) hate God.
Secret cults are points of contact between the devils and men. Human society is ruled by the devil through the occult.
If you are in any society or confraterniteis come out of it and come into The kingdom of God by accepting Jesus christ as your Lord and saviour

KristopherK:
Thanks for sharing, I found a lot of interesting information here. A really good post, very thankful and helpful that you will write many more posts like this one.

Myloweslife

you are welcome

MaxInDHouse:
Well for your information he (Jesus) is the same person the Bible calls Archangel Michael.


But if you think that's a lie please present the group that Jesus is leading today.
The Archangel Michael started guiding the Watchtower since the year 1914 and so far so good that is the one and only organization of zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word globally all others don't have what it takes to preach and teach zealously like Jesus commanded {Matthew 28:19-20} and what's more?
They are fulfilling what God's Kingdom citizens were foretold to accomplish during the last days! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1:3

All these achievements is due to the fact that they're able to work with Archangel Michael the one and only Jesus Christ! Daniel 12:1-3

All other religious groups will only continue arguing fruitlessly, they will never understand {Daniel 12:10} how only JWs are making it happen with just few people in each country across the globe yet their activities are felt globally! Matthew 5:13-16

May you have PEACE!

It is satan that is guiding your organization.

Micheal is angel of Jesus christ. Jesus is Jehovah.

Righteousness2:
JESUS Christ has Paid the Price for the redemption of Man but Man Must Subscribe to the Price that was paid.

Man has a Part to Play. JESUS paid the Prive but HE will not Force to Believe. HE tells you what to do and gives you the Freedom of Choice to choose.

For Man to be Saved, He Must Subscribe to JESUS Christ and Live according to HIS Command.

what do you mean subscribe, Jesus is not go TV of dstv.

The only part man play is to believe in Jesus because Jesus has paid all.

Repentance means for man to turn away from his ways and accept God's way.
God's way is actually faith in Jesus.

michaelwestern:
No it's not. living according to the commandments will not and can never give you eternal life. It's only believing in Jesus Christ and accepting His sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins that will give you eternal life. Obeying the commandments of God is a response to the love that He has shown for you by forgiving you of all your sins through the death of Jesus Christ.




What do you mean by this? Are you saying that only lawyers (theologians) can interpret the word of God? The Bible was inspired by the Holy Spirit and therefore it's only the Holy spirit that can help to interpret the Bible and not Bible colleges or whatever and to be honest I don't think I really know what you're talking about.

you are correct. We receive salvation by faith in Jesus.
Keeping his commandment is in response to his love.

The Christian life is, we live in righteousness because we have being made right. We don't live a righteous life to be righteous but we live a righteous life because we are righteous, we live a holy life because we are holy people.
We live by faith not by work, by faith of what we recieved in christ not by self merit.

Many people don't understand, we do works yes, the bible said we are created for good works, but we do good works because it is our spiritual nature.

Righteousness and holiness is already the spiritual nature of a Christian, failure to know and walk in this lead Christian to start walking in the flesh.
Hence we are like the good tree that produce good fruit. If you want good fruit plant a good tree, this is the Gospel.
God planted a good seed (save us by the washing of regeneration) so we produce good fruit (righteousness).

PLP

Kip

MaxInDHouse:
@Well you only need to ask "who is the man through whom we all became sinners?" {Romans 5:12} So if Adam set a fine example (model) do you think we will become sinners? Romans 3:23

@For God so love the world that He gave His only begotten Son so that whosoever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life {John 3:16} said it all!
Only those who are able to put Jesus' teaching to practice can have everlasting life.
And how do we learn from Jesus?
Through his thoughts, words and actions, so do you think anyone who chooses to imitate Jesus in all his/her dealings won't qualify for everlasting life?

To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps. 1Peter 2:12

@"Only begotten Son" doesn't mean Jesus is not one of God's spirit sons!
God has many spirit sons in heaven {Job 38:7} and Jesus happens to be the first and foremost, that just the secret! Colossians 1:15-16

Jesus is not one of God's spirit sons. There is nothing like spirit sons in the bible.. it is a word coined by watch to teach that Jesus is just one of the angels. That is a false teaching.

Imitating Jesus wouldn't give you eternal life.

kingyakos:
......1st you need to understand what is sin and remember the scripture says any soul that sin must die.
What did God gave Adam and Eve to live by, God gave them his word to live by, so long as they keep to the Word, they live eternally but eve misplaced just one word and that put all human race into death.
Now sin is unbelieve.
When a person is baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by immersing, that person has intimated his/her self into the body of Christ and that's initiation cos the Bible called it a spiritual concussion. Paul, Peter, Philip etc baptized their followers in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and by that alone you can get the beauty of Christ in you and his beauty are discernment of thought and intent of the heart, raising death, healing etc.
And yes and I say it again yes that God is not complete without his attribute and his attribute are not complete without God if so, God would've live in the earth alone, he wouldn't have create his image.
Yes I say it again that the image of God cannot sin cos God cannot sin and sin is not his creation.
What I'm telling you today I get it from no man nor any school of theology, it's the deep that calleth the deep and the deep respond to the deep. Shalom

This is heresy, you are in the heresy of gnosticsm.
I believe in the authority of the scripture not some hidden knowledge.

Alot of heresies spewing out from you.
Among many erroroneous things you said

Who told you God's image was created? Where are you getting this filths from?
You said God is incomplete without man?
The body of christ is not occult where you are initiated to belong.
There is no word like concession in the bible.


You better check you so called deeper revelation and the source of it. The devil is in the business of deception, the bible already has all the answers, the mind of God is no longer a mystery, it is in the bible.

MaxInDHouse:
Which part of it is false?

@Adam supposed to be our role model.
@He failed as a perfect man.
@God created another perfect man by transforming the life of one of His spirit sons into an embryo in the womb of a virgin girl.
@This perfect man proved that humans can live without sinning.
@God told us to imitate this perfect man.
@Because through him we will have everlasting life.

Check the bolded again.
1.No where is it written that Adam is suppose to be our role model,
2. You don't get eternal life by imitating Jesus.
3. Jesus is not one of God's spirit sons, he is the only begotten Son.

kingyakos:
.....There are three kind of believers
Unbelievers
Make believers
Believers
Remember the atonement of sins of the Israelites that the priest do offer, now that doesn't mean they don't fall into sin after the atonement, the atonement is as a curtain that covers their sins so God won't see it. Same thing applicable with the true Believers of Christ, who has initiated them body, soul and spirit into Christ, who are the bride of Christ. When ever they fall into sin, God does not see any sin in them though they'll always ask God for forgiveness of their sins. God sees no sin in them, what God sees in them is Christ. The scripture says God created man in his image, in other words they were part of God in the beginning (the original seed) they are not complete without God and God is not complete without them, So how can the image of God sin, it's impossible for that to happen. God cannot sin, it's the devil that sin

So many errors in this submission.
It is not true that when a Christian sins God does not see his sins, this is unscriptural. God sees our sins and it has consequences.
Secondly, Christians are not initiated into Jesus body and blood, this also is unscriptural.
As long as a Christian is still in the flesh he can sin, that is why scripture says mortifying your flesh.
You said God is not complete without man?
are you serious?
This is an heresy. Stop listening to heretics teachings.

MaxInDHouse:
Sin was inherited from Adam (a perfect man who chose to become a sinner)
Adam supposed to be our role model but due to his failure God created another perfect man through the life of one of His spirit sons in heaven and this one proved that humans can live without sinning.
That's why God told us to imitate Jesus Christ so that we can gain what Adam lost which is everlasting life!

at bolded this is false.

Terrible! Death comes at any time, believe the gospel because it might be your last.