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The solution is Jesus Christ!
sin destroyed this world already, God is building a new creation without sin, This creation is in Jesus Christ.
receive Jesus christ become part of the new creation.

Janosky:
Which name?
You just dey yarn okpata

First point.
No ghost is holy.
Greek Pneuma is not ghost.

2nd point.
Not one verse in the Bible where that statement in Matthew 28:19 was spoken to baptize any believer.
Your claim is FALSE.
The name of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob doesn't prove they bear the same name.
John 17:6,26 Jesus says his Father's name is NOT Jesus Christ.

Romans 3:29-30, the One God is a "HE".
John 4:23-24, Jesus says God is a "Him".
Trinity GIBBERISH fall yakata.

E no dey any Bible.
If you get liver, post the Bible verses you copied your statement.

There is nothing you can do about it. Trinity is there even in the new world translation.

Truvelisback:
No matter how hard u try to explain the truth to him, he will derail ur ans and reply u something else that would be completely different from ur point. The truth is that, he knows u are right but because of the church(JW) he was raised and their doctrines won't want him to accept.

I know that. That is why I don't waste my time on them because they are deluded.

IamV:
Novak Djokovic has said he would rather miss out on future tennis trophies than be forced to get a Covid vaccine.

Speaking exclusively to the BBC, he said he should not be associated with the anti-vax movement, but supported an individual's right to choose.
Djokovic was asked if he would sacrifice taking part in competitions such as Wimbledon and the French Open over his stance on the vaccine.

"Yes, that is the price that I'm willing to pay," he said.

The 20-times Grand Slam winner was deported from Australia last month after the government cancelled his visa in a row over his vaccine status [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-60014059].

Djokovic, who is the world's number one men's tennis player, said he had obtained a medical exemption to enter the country to play in the Australian Open as he had recently recovered from Covid-19.
However, the country's immigration minister, Alex Hawke, personally cancelled the 34-year-old's visa, on the grounds that his presence could incite "civil unrest" and encourage anti-vaccine sentiment.

"I was never against vaccination," he told the BBC, confirming that he'd had vaccines as a child, "but I've always supported the freedom to choose what you put in your body."

In a wide-ranging interview, his first since he was detained in Melbourne in January, Djokovic addressed speculation about the timing of his positive Covid case in December and discussed his own attitude towards the vaccine.

Djokovic said he hoped vaccination requirements in certain tournaments would change, adding that he was hoping that he "can play for many more years".

But he also confirmed he was willing to forego the chance to become statistically the greatest male tennis player of all time because he felt so strongly. Djokovic's rival, Rafael Nadal, has won 21 Grand Slam titles - the most of any competitor.

Asked why, he replied: "Because the principles of decision making on my body are more important than any title or anything else. I'm trying to be in tune with my body as much as I possibly can."

Djokovic said he had "always been a great student of wellness, wellbeing, health, nutrition," and that his decision had been partly influenced by the positive impact that factors such as changing his diet and his sleeping patterns, had had on his abilities as an athlete.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60354068

I love his courage! West are now gradually entering fully into authoritianism and dictatorship. This is a clear violation of human right.

MaxInDHouse:
Well that verse simply means Jesus' disciples must extend God's warm invitation to people of the nations.
And that will require helping them to know so many things they never heard before regarding the true God (Father) the prophet that commissioned the preaching work (Jesus God's Son) and the active force behind all the achievements of God's people (Holy Spirit)

If you checked what happened when Peter was asked by Jews (Israelites) who already had partial knowledge about God (Father) and the active force (Holy Spirit) Peter asked them to get baptized only in the name of Jesus Christ! Act 2:38

WHY?
Because this people already believe in God and the Holy Spirit that's why they were moved as they saw the WORKS of their God as the Spirit is enabling Jews speak in foreign languages. So the only name missing for their salvation to be complete is "JESUS" that they don't know!

May you have PEACE!

Look at the mirror and ask yourself if you make sense!
The father , Son and holy ghost has one name.
Jehovah witness organization for many years are having it difficult to explain away that verse, that verse is very clear about the Trinity.

The father, son and holy spirit are persons with one name because they are one God.
Baptizing people in the name of Jesus is the same as Baptizing people in the name of the father and the holy spirit too.

AntiChristian:
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you.
Mat 28:19-20

How does this validates trinity? Where does it state that they are one?

Baptizing them in the name of the father and of the Son and of the holy spirit.
They have one name hence they are one.

AntiChristian:
Get sense!

na your Koran talk am nor bi me.

But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30

Other texts that identify Allah as a makr include:

Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99

So they schemed a scheme: and We schemed a scheme (Wamakaroo makran wamakarna makran), while they perceived not. S. 27:50

Mynd44isinlove:
go get a life fo.ol.

It is there in your Koran.
Allah is not just a deciever but the best of all decievers!

But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30

Other texts that identify Allah as a makr include:

Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99

So they schemed a scheme: and We schemed a scheme (Wamakaroo makran wamakarna makran), while they perceived not. S. 27:50

Mathew 28 vv19
The father, son and holy spirit has one name.

Mathew 28 vv19 validates the kjv 1 John 5 vv 7.

Allah is a deciever

MRSAWEDOFF:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0mEFJf-Q44


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGeWAOklF-E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex__6LcJr8E

According to African beliefs, when one dies, he or she wonders in the land of the dead till their living relatives perform certain burial rites.... Then they are granted access to become ancestors

No, it is not true! Dead spirits do not roam about after death.
After death the spirit goes back to God to face judgment of where it would be till the day of final judgment.

cornelboy:
John 5:28-29
[28]Don’t be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God’s Son,
[29]and they will rise again. Those who have done good will rise to experience eternal life, and those who have continued in evil will rise to experience judgment.


Daniel 12:2
[2]Many of those whose bodies lie dead and buried will rise up, some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting disgrace.


Revelation 20:11-15
[11]And I saw a great white throne and the one sitting on it. The earth and sky fled from his presence, but they found no place to hide.
[12]I saw the dead, both great and small, standing before God’s throne. And the books were opened, including the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to what they had done, as recorded in the books.
[13]The sea gave up its dead, and death and the grave gave up their dead. And all were judged according to their deeds.
[14]Then death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire. This lake of fire is the second death.
[15]And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.


Don't you think that the Bible teaches about a specific judgement day where people that had died will be raised by to life from their grave and be judged?

There is Judgment immediately after death and there is also the final judgment.
The first Judgment is to determine where the soul is to be after death and the last judgment is to determine where the resurrected humans would finally end up forever.

cornelboy:
Will judgement take place immediately after death?

yes of course

digitite:
I am on a journey to discover the true essence of Christian relationship. Your thoughts and experiences are welcome.

A Christian relationship is a spiritual one. The foundation of a Christian relationship is first of all the mutual love and submission to Christ and then love towards one another.

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Death is the cessation of life, although there are different types of life. There is the natural life or biological and there is the spiritual life or eternal life.
Life itself has its source from God, God is the one who sustains all life. When one is cut off from God the source of life, he dies.

This is what happened to Adam and Eve in the garden of eden, they were cut of from God and they lost their spiritual life and many years later lost their biological life.

Every human has a biological life but however not the spiritual life, and one day will lose their biological life and face eternal death.

what happen after death

It is Judgment! Yes it is the judgment to determine the abode of the soul depending on the state of that person, if that person has the spiritual life then he will be with the Lord but if he has no life then he is condemned and cast into hell!

Dear reader do you have the spiritual life of God also called the eternal life?
This is what Jesus said
John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Will you accept Jesus christ and recieve the gift of eternal life?

There are tons of other scriptures that support the Trinity.

Don't put undue pressure on yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
Now you're trying to argue blindly out of your arrogance!
This is why Jesus told us not to give you such holy things because instead of showing appreciation you will turn back to fight us for enlightening you! Matthew 7:6

You are seriously deluded

MaxInDHouse:
I want to believe you know the meaning of the highlighted!



Remember Paul said "FOR ALL HAVE SINNED".
So is the fetus in the womb part of the "ALL" that "HAVE SINNED" or excluded?

Read that verse again, it was Adam that sinned, but because Adam represented all mankind the sin is attributed to all. Hence all sinned, not that babies themselves have committed any sin.

MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah's Witnesses are the one and only group given the spirit to interpret God's word so whoever feels like resisting them is loosing a lot!

This is the explanation behind all the Bible quotations pointing to the fact that mankind is doom.

God doesn't have any business with whoever comes out of Adam's body because through Adam's rebellion we have all become unholy so we don't merit God's glory {Romans 3:23} but out of His infinite mercy God took the initiative to draw us closer to Himself while we are yet sons and daughters of the rebels (Adam and Eve) {Romans 5:8} this means God will use a means to redeem mankind back to the lost glory so through the death of Jesus Christ we can connect our heavenly father again as His beloved children! John 1:12

What happened to babies?

Well our death is not due to the sins we commit in our lifetime NO it's due to the sin we inherited from Adam {Romans 5:12} so all humans whether a fetus in the womb or an adult has inherited Adamic sin {Psalms 51:5} that's why God told the Israelites to dedicate their babies to him and start teaching them His Holy writings once they're able to speak {Deuteronomy 6:4-7} by so doing an Israelite has proved that the child doesn't belong to him but to the God to whom the child is dedicated so each parent must strive really hard to Keep their children under the mighty hand of God through teaching not of their own thoughts but God's word! Psalms 127:1-3

So we are all sinners not due to any sin we're commiting presently but through Adamic sin, the problem most people bring upon themselves now is that while God is working towards our salvation to redeem us from the sin we inherited many are adding more to it by doing things abominable before God that's why God's word said they will be forgotten when God's richly blessings come with His kingdom {Psalms 9:17} but God will keep those who strive to please him in His memory book! Malachi 3:16; Revelations 20:15

Please we humans that concludes that babies are innocent but from God's standpoint all Adam's descendants are sinners no matter the age!

you are ignorant man!
Paul is talking about the inherited sin from Adam that is attributed to all mankind.

MaxInDHouse:
Here the highlighted answers your first question!



So David is a sinner even while in his mother's womb!

which sin did David commit in his mother's womb

MaxInDHouse:
Had it been you politely asked in this manner it will be a sin on my part to withhold the answer from you but instead you directed the question to me as if i'm the one who penned down those words.




So tender an APOLOGY for your rudeness and i wouldn't have any reason to deprive you of what Jesus said i must give you FREELY!

Answer the question

MaxInDHouse:
Romans 5:12

That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned!

Why is it so difficult for you to humble yourself to gain WISDOM?

It is the sin nature that is passed to all men not because all have sinned but because Adam sin.

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

This is not talking about sins committed by individuals but the sin nature passed to all men.

The fool said there is no God.

MaxInDHouse:
Continue to console yourselves in ignorance!

See, who cannot ever answer the question 'what sin do babies comit' saying someone is ignorant.
You are a clown.

MaxInDHouse:
"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23

That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned! Romans 5:12

Just humble yourselves and learn from Jehovah's Witnesses!

Romans 3 vv 23 is talking about all humans that knows what is good and what is evil.
The previous verse explained the context.

Your are an arrogant man who know nothing.

MaxInDHouse:
Just humble yourself and learn from Jehovah's Witnesses!

This is how the KJV puts it:

Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. Psalms 51:5 KJV

You have nothing to gain with your arrogance!

You are the one to learn and pull yourself out Jehovah Witnesses error.
When does I was 'shapen in iniquity' and 'conceived in sin' mean He committed any sin?

David was speaking of the circumstances surrounding his birth not that he commit any sin neither a baby or a child that has not gotten to the age of acountablitity

thankgod460:
God is Almighty and he does things as he pleases him and no one can question him. In as much that you can't tell me the reason why you are not kill when they gave birth to you, you have no business in researching things you know is more spiritual than physical.

Yes God is Almighty and unquestionable, the issue here is how does a baby that does not know the difference between Good and evil neither can make any decision commit sin?
It is impossible, the bible does not teach that.

David in psalm 51 didn't say he committed any sin in his mother's womb but rather he was conceived in sin meaning the vessel which is his mother's womb where he was conceived was a sinful one.

thankgod460:
He is not arrogant, he need more clarity and the response given is not convincing enough. The fact remains that we wanted to give answers to things that are beyond human reasoning. Kindly say I don't know than quoting verses that are not relevant to the question.

thanks for your politeness.

MaxInDHouse:
Misinformed and arrogant Churchgoers!


Your question sounds as if you're not ready to learn otherwise it should have been.
"What sin did we commit in our mother's womb?" Or better still
"What sin did David commit in his mother's womb?"

I'm not the writer of those quoted verses, you can read it in any version you please so my question again:

Are you now ready to learn study the Bible with JWs if YES rephrase your question if NO then keep whatever you believe i never quoted you in the first place!

In summary, you do not know.
If you do not know how a baby in his mother womb can commit sin and what sin he commit then how do you now say a baby commit sin.
David never said he committed any sin in his mother's womb go and read again from the right translation kjv.

MaxInDHouse:
Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me. Psalms 51:5

for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses, those people that always come to knock on your door before the outbreak of Covid19, are you ready to study the Bible with me now to know why everyone is a sinner?

What sin did you commit in your mother's womb

MaxInDHouse:
God's word made it clear that there is nothing like INNOCENCE in the life of humans, we have all (no matter the age) sinned and fall short of God's glory {Romans 3:23} from the viewpoint of God all Adam's descendants are like waste products, that's why Jesus referred to people without faith as walking corpse {Luke 9:60} you can only join those whose names are in God's memory book for remembrance when you avail yourself for matters having to do with FAITH! Malachi 3:16 compare to Revelations 20:15

So all babies that hasn't developed their thinking skills to decide for themselves are waste products that's why God's word says:

Remember, then, your Grand Creator in the days of your youth, before the days of distress come and the years arrive when you will say: “I have no pleasure in them” Ecclesiastes 12:1

Note the highlighted "in the days of your youth" the only way to secure a child's life for God to remember such a child during resurrection is when you the father quickly inculcate in such a child the love of God which must first prove to be in your own heart {Deuteronomy 6:4-7} by so doing your child will become holy to God:

and if a woman has an unbelieving husband and he is agreeable to staying with her, let her not leave her husband. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified in relation to his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified in relation to the brother; otherwise, your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. 1 Corinthians 7:13-14

The point of emphasis here is how God will view the babies born in a Christian home.

Apart from Christian homes where the children are trained to love God {2Timothy 3:15} all other children are WASTE products, that's why God told the Israelites in ancient times to kill pagans who are depriving them from inheriting the promised land including all their babies they're waste products in God's eyes!

Today God's people are to continue preaching and teaching in all their neighbourhood in anticipation of God's kingdom, when God's Kingdom comes no unbeliever (including their babies) will be spared by the angels:

But as for the cowards and those without faith and those who are disgusting in their filth and murderers and the sexually immoral and those practicing spiritism and idolaters and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This means the second death.” Revelations 21:8

All those WITHOUT FAITH are waste products whether a day child or adult!

So a baby had sinned how? What law has a baby broken?