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Technically, the family does not have a right to that child when is mum is a live and when the mum has not expressly appointed them as the guidian. His father's properties are his and his mum for their upkeep, the father's family may have some rights in the propertybut it is limited. They can choose not to give the child his father's inheritance, it is their choice. None of the above justifies kidnapping a child from his parent.

neyobills:
I'm not supporting taking the kid, away, from the mom,the family didn't give birth to the child but their son did so technically they equally have a right to the child,But if the deceased has properties and the kid is the next of kin does that mean the properties belong to the fathers family since the fathers family didn't give birth to the kid anyway in your words.

I couldn't ignore his ass. This is really scary, I feel bad for those women out there.

pocohantas:
I just decided to ignore him. The kind of men I avoid...

How does that change that the fact that the father's family didn't give birth to the child? Surname is bullshit because it is a norm doesn't mean you get to take a child away from his mother.

neyobills:
I don't get this your logic sorry the surname of the child is of the fathers so the kid definitely belong to the fathers family in my opinion

A child belongs to his parents. It took two people to birth a child. In the absence of the father, the father's family has no right to take over the child unless the mother wishes or is incapable of taking of the child. If she likes, let her marry a million times. It is her child. That child is a relative to everyone else.

djon78:
Its different. Because the child belongs to the man. He paid the bride price. So its his offspring. But as long as woman is not married to another man, she can keep the baby or children, but once she remarries the children becomes the mans peoples own.
I know a friend of mine it happened to his brother. The guy died when his wife was 7 months pregnant. The guys family continued taking care of her and the child, but a rich man saw the girl and wanted to marry her, but she wanted to go with her son. The family talked and explained everything to the rich man, and the man gave the girl ultimatum to chose between being his wife OE following her son. Of course she choose marriage. Today that child is a teenager, very well cared for by the mans family,

Not your concern. Adeleke was the people's choice.

They need to start posting pictures of the police and their full names, the world need to recognise these monsters.

We are not in the same page, amigos.

If you want to talk about Fulani herdsmen, let's talk about them

If you want to talk about criminals who may or may no be Fulani and who may or may not have been former herdsmen, lets talk about those.

oldtruth:
That is why everyone need to stand up against them. Nobody has the monopoly of being violent. We all get craze for head. All Fulanis herdsmen are either a terrorist or a lawless. They don't care about people's farm nor wellbeing. Did you know that overgrazing that is being practiced is reduces biodiversity, increases deforestation and causes climate change?

Let the stupid president declared any herdsmen without a ranch a criminal. That is the only way. If not, we are deep shut in this country becuase they will definitely cause havoc. Treat them like criminals! That is the only solution. Mabinu

That is because people are getting it wrong.

The war in Libya and terroriam in other parts of Africa created a number of issues. When you also consider the effects of Boko Haram and the crippling economy. It is not hard to figure out this will not end well at all.

So you have youths from the North who may or may not be Fulani, who may or may not have been herdsmen. These people are also problem for Fulani herdsmen. They herd their cattles in fear from these set of people. These criminals started up North against *their people*. Now that they have expanded their criminal entity, why should Fulani herdsmen be blamed for their crimes? The only thing these criminals want his ransom and they have no care for human lives. These crimes is not different from those perpetrated in the South. They are criminals, let's not tribalise it.

However, I am not saying actual Fulani herdsmen don't have issues with locals. Unfortunately, the story most people don't tell is that, sometimes locals also attack them and their animals.

DonMekino:
Ppl still supporting these Fulani stuffs amaze me, how can these ppl be armed and we still expect peaceful coexistence with them? In my secondary school days in awka north lga, there were Fulani in urum town, the arms they had were sticks, nobody disturbed them neither did they disturb anyone....there was an instance a car killed one cow in an accident, the ppl around paid the herdsman and took the dead animal. Now things have changed, they move around killing ppl who don't even attack them. I think this recent incident is just to force the RUGA idea down our throats but it will fail. This govt is filled with cow-loving individuals.

Don't worry. No one is slitting their throats anytime soon but you should be careful, with the way you and your bastards friends are going at this, they will soon end up raping your women and your men will be left for dead. Till both you and your *Fulani herdsmen get sense*.

oldtruth:
Eranko lawon obi e...

When are we still not going to see that? Not all of us are like your family members who will sit and await a nonentity slit their throats.

Omo ale ni awon tobi e

Are people going through Abuja-Kaduna not mostly Northerners and Muslims? This issue has been since 2016, the Government did very little about it because it is Nigeria. Our lives don't matter.

Now that they have extended their wings to the South, why the Bleep should we tribalise it?

gbosaa:
This is no news. It’s information that has been out there. There have been lots of complaints about the locals in Ondo, Edo and Delta states about strange Fulani men camping in the forests.
Emerging from bushes and shooting at vehicles is the modus operandi of these bandits.
They did that along Abuja-Nasarawa-kaduna roads forcing many to use the trains. Even the trains were reported to be escorted by helicopters initially. All these could be searched and read.

People were shot at along those roads, vehicles stopped and passengers panicked and ran into the bushes. Some of them were captured by Fulani bandits. Victims narrated their various experiences and these could be retrieved online.

There was a viral video of similar attack in which the mobile police escorts returned fire causing the bandits to retreat.

In a sane country, the Nigeria security forces would’ve launched an extensive manhunt inside those forests/area to apprehend the bad guys.
I believe strongly that this recent attack was carried out by the same group of bandits.

Can we stop calling these guys herdsmen! A Fulani bandit who probably relocated from north east or some part of west Africa with the help of their brothers here in Nigeria is different from a herdsman.

Okay

Goodbloke:
Another wimp has spoken, where has all our tactful pattern led us, while people are been maimed and killed .Fake news indeed am sure youve sold your tribe out because of APC #1000

Na, I think they are very good at spreading rumours or mixed up facts. It makes for a good story.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-africa-44655148


Unlike you, I didn't need a news outlet to figure out what is happening.

MyGeneration:
lol so the residents who are withnessing everything first hand and suffering the consequence is spreading fake news while u who stay in far away lagos know the truth

Cry me a River...do you want a big bowl for your tears?

therealpeace:
Boko Haram, Fulani herdsmen, Tuareg, ISIS, Osama Bin laden, Alqadar, Darsh, Nigeria former leaders etc are all Sunni group. Only Shite group categorize as terrorist group is hezbollar, and it is more of a liberation group. I think Sunni islam is a curse to the world... people with slavish mentality, see yoruba moslems, they are ready to compromize the yoruba nation to the servitude of the caliphate. I still dont understand who annointed sultan of Sokoto as leader of Yoruba moslem, they have been subdued and subjugated, they are presently ahent of the caliphate to destroy the great Yoruba empire

You are right actually. I got my timeline mixed up.

Mordecai:
It appears you are getting your timelines all warped. GEJ was not acting president when Mohammed Yusuf was killed. Yaradua was. Also, El-zakzaky's three sons were killed when GEJ was president, not Buhari.

Can you take out time and check these things out? As for the Chibok girls, GEJ was in denial, much to his shame. However, it appears you keep shifting the goal post. If you wish to discuss these issues, please educate yourself on the details. I really am not a history teacher.

It is because we have common sense and we know this shit is fake news.

We don't like Buhari. We don't care about him. However, we know that if we handled this madness the way you are all inciting yourselves. It will be civil war 2.0 all over again for no fucking reason other than being bigots.

Nigerian highways have never been safe. Whatever is happening at the moment is more than being Fulani. It is about how your country is now a failed state. What do you think was going to happen with the way economy is turning into shit. Are we all going to pretend that these madness is limited to the Fulani alone? Those residents should continue spread falsehoods. There are criminals in that bush. Let's not incite falsehoods and bigotry.

Femolacaster:
Some Yoruba's that are still defending these killers, maybe it's because of their love for president or APC, just pray that you or your family member fall into their nets, then your brain will be on reset. Iku to n pa ojugba eni, owe ni o npa fun ni.

How sweet? Aren't a cute wee victim of Buhari's hate?

cosef:
This one is simply confusing and contradicting herself and believing she is making an intellectual impression.

Do an unbiased review of your mumbo-jumbo,
you'll find that there is more I.Q in a morsel of cow dung than in the litany of crap you wrote there.

GEJ did not do anything about the extra judicial killings. He was the acting President then. Perhaps, if he had done something, many people wouldn't have lost their lives to the insurgency. Buhari has made same mistakes with Phyton dance and he is making the same with this Shias.

GEJ did not redeem himself. Continue telling yourself that. He was the same president that was in denial that students were abducted.

Mordecai:
The topic here is not Boko Haram. But I will indulge you and deviate briefly, hoping that we are not going to go back and forth over this pointlessly.

Mohammed Yusuf was killed in 2009, a year before GEJ became President. He was killed extrajudicially in the custody of the NPF. That single act was the main catalyst that transformed the movement into the terrorist group it became under the leadership of Shekau. GEJ became president on 2010.

While the group was able to take control of many LGAs under the watch of GEJ, he redeemed himself when he carried out a 6-week operation that reclaimed back ALL those territories, prior to the 2015 elections.

The massacre happened during Buhari not GEJ.

GEJ is responsible for far worse. Like I stated z what did he do to those who killed the first Boko Haram leader?

Mordecai:
He did not hang the military men involved. But he kept the peace.

El-zakzaky lost three sons that day, but hell did not break loose. If you could recall, the present leaders killing his followers tried goading him then into taking a hardline stance against GEJ. All that is history now, but for anyone willing to understand what is happening now, it's an important thing to note.

1) Calling Igbos 5% is not hate

2) Fulani herdsmen are not terrorists. There are criminals who are Fulani whose occupation may or may not be herdsmen. It does not warrant Fulani herdsmen to be called terrorists.

3) Phython dance was extreme. It was against IPOB, and yes it is a terrorist organisation. This is not about Biafra. Everything that happened with Phython, is the unfortunate consequence of being in a developing country with disregard for human rights. Is Buhari to be blamed? Yes. Does it mean Buhari hates Igbos? No. He just doesn't care at all.

4) What about the allocation? Tell me about the allocation during GEJ's regime? Tell us about what GEJ did differently?

I would rather go blind or senile than play VICTIM. In case you don't know, being a Nigerian is all you need to hate Buhari. Using your tribe as a weapon, it is taking too far.

TroubleMaker47:
Call igbos 5% isn't hate?

Calling for python dance on unarmed civilians and taggin dem terrorists isn't hate? (At the same time calling his brothers who hv killed over a thousand innocent citizens for no cause, bandits!!!)

Shutting down igbo owned biz in the name of WAI isn't hate?

Delibrate loopsided project allocation isn't hate?

YOU ARE EITHER BLIND or SENILE! Either way, I'm unapologetic about it!

How did he hate Igbos first? We want instances.


I don't think Buhari hates other tribes. I think he is more trusting of his tribe than other tribes and unfortunately, he lacks diplomacy.

QueenSekxy:
We have seen how he now treats those SW and MB that adore and worship him.

Those gworo chewing almajiri talking about religion, please, is Atiku, Yara Dua Christians?


We Igbos hate him cos he first hated us, hate Christians, he is a terrorist sympathizer, a corrupt and backward lunatic, a religious fanatic, a tribal bigot and cow fvcker.

Let us continue to show our disapproval of his ineptitude towards his repugnant demeanour.
We don't hide our feelings, we don't lick asses, we say it as it is and if you aren't comfortable with it, you can join Awolowo in rat poisoning.

If you are Igbo, and we sense the ass licking nature in You, we will label you a saboteur. We don't worship anybody, be you who!!!

Let's set the record straight again


Was it not GEJ that acted as a catalyst for Boko Haram?

Mordecai:
Another bit of history to set the records straight.

When the Nigerian Army assassinated three sons of El-Zakzaky in 2014, GEJ personally put a call through to him and apologized.

That's what a leader does that wants peace.

A leader that want peace would have prosecuted those involved.

Mordecai:
Another bit of history to set the records straight.

When the Nigerian Army assassinated three sons of El-Zakzaky in 2014, GEJ personally put a call through to him and apologized.

That's what a leader does that wants peace.

That is why I said Burutai lack common sense. I wonder how he got to that position?

Every leader idiot would know that when you see a gathering of people, it is a time bomb waiting to explode. They can do and undo.

The Army should have handled it better or TURNED BACK

However, we are Nigerians. They must show that they are powerful. The Army was too powerful to admit defeat, too proud to turn back. They should be taught a lesson and so therefore, they were taught a lesson.


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Tinubu and Osibanjo working together to siphon our money.

Yes? And 500+ military men died?

Rules of engagement under Geneva Convention said when people refuse to allow Chief of Commander to pass. They should escalate the matter and leave 300+ bodies.

The Chief of Army could have put on his best fakest smile, asked to see their leader, cajole them but no they choose to escalate it.

fkj950ax:
For the avoidance of doubt, the convoy was attacked with weapons. Not just sticks and stones.
The army had every legal right to respond with force as per the Rules of Engagement even under the Geneva Convention.

Human rights issues against the Shia Movement is another kettle of fish and should not be swept under the rug with the reason for the arrest of their leader.

I am proudly naive

Which of the NGOs? You haven't been paying attention.

It would have been a slap because the military and unruly civilians are fighting over seniority abi?

Proudlyngwa:
You are naive about the army and rules of engagement.

If they COAS had turned back, it would have been a slap to Nigeria as a whole. Why do you think most of the foreign NGOs didn't push for sanctions, because the shites crossed a very rough line and could set precedence.
The office of the chief of army staff represents the army and he would have lost all respect, if he had turned back,

If you engage the military, they have a right to defend themselves and they are not trained in nonlethal warfare..

What we should be worried about is, what gives the shites so much confidence that makes them feel they are above authority and even close down public utilities during their procession irrespective of whoever is coming.

Wow! Killing 300+ civilians was definitely the wiser option

You must be so smart. In your own wisdom, escalating beats managing crisis? Are you ready to supply the Army all the men in your family if this issue escalates further?

BenzEne1:
The Chief of Army Staff should turn back because a group of civilians are carrying out a procession illegally on the highway??

How una take dey reason all these things wey una dey talk sef. Na wa o

And prosecute Burutai.

I don't care about the barricade. The army could have turned back, handled in a different manner, asked to speak to their leader but no, they had to use brute force as expected.

EdoNation:
buhari should just release their leader jaare

People like me vs them. They want to feel superior, act like they are the better tribe and vice versa. At the end of the day, both sides will pay heavily for it if things are not handled right.

Look, if you go far back in history, most Nigerian tribes migrated from somewhere and came to where they are now...as did many other African tribes.

The Lingala of the DR Congo came originally from what is now Nigeria for example.

I know the Fulani herdsmen have commited lots of crimes, and yes, they are wrong. So also have other tribes against the FUlanis. It does not make taking the laws into the hands by anyone right.

So, stop the bigotry. For all I know, your tribe migrated from somewhere else and came here. I know of one Southern Kaduna tribe that claims to have come from Egypt centuries ago. Does that make them foreigners.

Pu[b]t pressure on your legislator to pass bills to strenghten the police. We all benefit from a peaceful country. Not from a replay of Nazi-like tactics.
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Know that the Rwanda genocide started when some Hutu were calling Tutusi Ethiopians....

Criminals killed your daughter. Let's not tribalise this shit. Nigerian government should be blamed because it failed to protect your daughter and provide adequate security for her. Nigeria is a failed state and you contributed to that.