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Kanu is the nemesis of his own tribesmen.

RockHard:
In the SW he will probably apologize for his hypocrisy during the Lagos/Fashola destitutes saga to try to douse the bigot tag his candidacy has assumed. In the North he may try to make peace by apologizing for deporting Northerners.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/142192-throwback-anambra-govt-arrests-repatriates-beggars-to-akwa-ibom-ebonyi.html

I hope the hypocrite will accept he is a hypocrite.

OK!

Neither El Rufai nor Reno O'Mockery are contesting for national elections.

The bigot contesting for national elections is Peter Obi the miscreant "deporting" hypocrite and accuser of the brethren.

MikelIbe:
To call citizens of Nigeria who have the fundamental human right to reside anywhere in the country , migrants shows that you are the real bigot whose IQ is below zero. Why not explain why over 6 million Chadians,Malians and Nigers /Nigerien migrants that are currently in Lagos have not been deported. Many of them are destitutes, okada riders, shoe shiners, tea sellers etc Your president enabled the influx by opening the borders. Your fixation on I.gb.bos has distracted you from noticing that the there are about 6million influx of foreigners into Lagos alone. Come to Lagos and see for yourself. That's the change u wanted, and more migrants are coming in. Trust me, very soon you'll look for assistance to get things right. For now keep on having your erection and masturbation on Igbbooo topics.

Apparently the only thing you saw in my post was Igbo.

You did not see the hypocrisy of a state governor "tribalising" an unwritten policy that was practised by many state governments without recourse to the tribe or region of the affected miscreants, including the said governor who had earlier done the same thing.

But am I surprised that you are a tribal hypocrite like Peter Obi?

No I'm not.

There is nothing wrong with having migrants from a region of the country into another region or state. However, no state is ready to shoulder the responsibility of another state in creating a welfare policy for its indigent population. There are migrants of every tribe working and residing in Lagos. They do not live under the bridge or roam about without a job or known address of residence.

It is not the role of a state government to act regarding foreigners influx into any state in Nigeria, that is the role of the Federal Government.

The simple question to Peter Obi and his ilk is, why did he "tribalise" a practice that even he was guilty of? A practice that was executed without regard to tribes or regions, but specifically as it concerns the state governments not carrying the burden of another state and the associated security concerns, even if they belong to the same tribe.

Peter Obi that will not go to Katsina as an APGA local politician, will now have to go all over Nigeria.

I am certain he will be given the ample opportunity to explain why he politicized the relocation of destitute miscreants by Lagos to Anambra State, knowing fully well that same Lagos had already done same to Yoruba and Northern miscreants, and that even Anambra state under his own administration had previously done the exact thing to Ebonyi and Akwa-Ibom miscreants.

So Buhari was previously dark like Obasanjo and Jonathan?

Wake me up when you have something sensible to talk about.

Ovamboland:
Many wailers don't know why they are opposing Buhari, they just joined the bandwagon around.

That's why they hardly have the patience to think through any criticism, once one of them mentions it all of them start parroting it, no matter your attempts to point out common sense.

A very sad situation.

And they never need to show any proof for their dubious allegations, to get the choir chorusing.

Village technology at work.

When he was not destroyed with the iPhone theft, they laid a path before him that led to the Bureau-de-change operators. Once he was hooked, they ensured he would have no funds to bail himself.

They followed him to the end.

Toyin Aimakhu! Show mercy naa.

The same society that lynches petty thieves, is still glorifying yahoo criminals that should be mercilessly beaten wherever and whenever they are located.

PointB:
Yes, Master Sheet contain records for every individual from a set/subset who sat for an exam. That's correct.

But Master Sheet are not issued to individuals, they don't even allow them to gleen it for privacy reason. Let anyone who has Master Sheet issued to them post same here if indeed it was the practice by WAEC as you said btw 1990 and 2000.

Master sheet usually have a section for endorsement as at the time they were produced, where is the endorsement by the originator (Cambridge) as at the time of issue. After such endorsement, not further alterations is allowed. Alterations such as shading, emboldening, etc are not permitted on Master Sheets.

You are yet to tell me who was first and third on the sheet, so as to confirm the sort orders.

It's obvious that this sheet in question is no Master Sheet; it was not issued by Cambridge University as alleged. It was hurriedly generated to meet a predetermined outcome. Otherwise, you wont see all those inconsistencies.

Again for emphasis,
- Names Master Sheet should be in order of First or Lastname (Mainly lastname, as that is what is used to determine the exam no). It's obvious this was sloppy mistake by the Kastina Provincial School Principal and his gang of forgers.
- No further authentication is required on Master Sheet unless that which was on it when it was generated.
- Master Sheet are not issued to individual student (not even on request). Why would they issue you result another individual simple because you fall on same page? What the point of it being confidential?


Guy, this is Cheat Sheet!

Guy, they do issue it, and I am certain for the period I stated. And it is mostly required when a statement of result is the document being submitted as opposed to the certificate that may not be available for collection until years later. This is the very reason the school issued it to back up the statement of result given to Buhari in 2015.

Unfortunately, I cannot lay my hand on a copy where I am. When I can, I will copy you on it.

PointB:
Let's assume for argument sake that Buhari is second base on his candidate no, which you claim is derived from his name Buhari. Why was the list not sorted in order of surname? Is Cambridge that sloppy? Whose names are first and third on the list, since you know more about this sheet?

Secondly, who produced this 'Sheet' Kastina Provincial Government College or Cambridge University? Cos if it was produced by Cambridge there is no need for all those thousand and one stamps from Kastina. If not, on what basis was it generated?

Calling it a personal copy is wrong. If it was a personal copy for Mr Buhari, it won't contain the names of other people.

Dude a result master sheet even for ordinary common entrance for secondary school, contains names of other students from that school that fit on the page your own name appears. Same as for WAEC SS3 exam.

Please this is a fact.

The only new stamp on that document is from 2015 when it was authorized as such by the school for issue as requested by Buhari or his agents, upon request for the school statement of result also signed for 2015. Every other identifying entry, including the original name of the school as at 1961, is as originally issued as at the time of the release of the result in 1961.

It is a personal copy because it was issued to someone, and indeed, every student is entitled to one, even if it contains the records of others.

This has been the case I know since WAEC of the 1990s and early 2000s. Everyone of my siblings have such a result master sheet with the names of only those with similar surnames that can fit on a page. In essence, you are issued the page on the master sheet where your own name appears with neighboring names. You are not issued a result of the whole graduating class. The totality of the result, remains with the school as the source copy.

In the case of Buhari, I reckon all those on the list happen to be all who were the graduating class of that school at such a time and place where eduction was a taboo.

It is obvious that the last name of each entry, which is taken as the surname, is in an ascending order of alphabet. Why surname came last or did not come first, might be a format that was the norm of that time.

Another aimless attempt to sustain the propaganda, but don't be in a hurry to embarrass yourself.

Buhari is 2nd on the list and not 1st. He is 2nd because his candidate number is 002, and his surname is B for Buhari which precedes other surnames except the first. You didn't have to be so obviously dubious by placing your boundary line over the first name that is candidate 001.

His result line is highlighted because that is the information relevant to whoever has publicised it. It is a personal copy, just as anyone can return to their schools to obtain their personal copy of the WAEC result master sheet. If you then chose to highlight or asterisk your score line for identification upon submission for document accreditation purposes, how is that rocket science? As for the bold scores, maybe we should ask Channels news.

There is nothing wrong with the old print marks of University of Cambridge or Provincial Secondary School Katsina. That itself is the authentication you are yapping aimlessly about.

The stamp from 2015 is a stamp from the school upon recent issue of the document. Or are you saying the school forged its own stamp again? Or if the signage of the stamp is not straight, that means the authority using it is forging its own authorization? At least we can all see that it is signed and dated for 2015 when it was issued to buttress the school statement of result that Buhari obtained when the Army insisted they do not have the original of his lost certificate.

ivandragon:
still won't hurt to see the back cover...

by the way, what's with the presidency saying PMB didn't apply for attestation & WAEC saying he did?

Anything to avoid drama of home delivery.

tochiuzor:
So you're saying WAEC has the right to issue a certificate for an exam not conducted by them?

And who said it was not conducted by them?

Did you see the Cambridge result master sheet and did not see WAEC also written on it?

Did you see the sample copy of a 1961 WASC certificate and did not see WAEC written on it too?

If you hold on to your opinion that I am telling you with the attached facts and evidences that it is wrong, then why have people been parroting that WAEC Ghana has no records of Buhari when they should be looking for the records at Cambridge like you are opining?

So WAEC does have records for the 1961 exam because they were involved in it, having been created in 1952. But just as WAEC Ghana National Office does not have records for Nigerian candidates, so does WAEC Nigeria National Office does not have records for Ghana or Liberia or Gambia candidates.

A National Office is not International.

ivandragon:
mine has the certificate number in front, so I don't need to worry about the back.

while it's true that most information is contained on the front, there are some certificates that carry unique numbers at the back, numbers that can be used to determine its authenticity.


based on what you explained, what about if Mathematics was compulsory to pass back then?

well, whatever is at the back doesn't invalidate your position, but not everyone who has questioned pmb's qualification has done so because they do not like the man, some just want issues cleared up. simple.


I will also get my hands on one soon.

The below is part of the information available on Cambridge Assessment.

NOTES:

Examination results were classed in grades by 1 to 9. 1,2,3,4,5 & 6 indicate a Pass with Credit; 7 & 8 indicate a Pass; 9 indicates a Failure.
To pass the School Certificate, candidates had to pass examinations in a variety of groups. It was compulsory to pass English Language, but not Maths, in order to gain the Certificate.
The number of candidates who sat for the WASC Hausa examination in 1961 was 152.
Our records show that Hausa was set in the Northern Region in 1961.

jmaine:
Point of correction. The PDP took minimum wage from. N3,500 to 18k...

Bros you are a student trying to correct a teacher.

Point of correction!

He is right and you are wrong, as long as we are referring to a single regime.

ivandragon:
this is why people like you are often regarded as less than 'complete in the head'.


in your blindness, you have assumed that everyone who has requested for clarification on pmb's academic result does so blindly.


you have professors who have been found to have used fake qualifications to reach their professorship.

so why can't PMB be questioned?

is it not your 'kind' that say PMB has a master degree from USAWC? diploma = masters in your twisted reasoning...

I ask you again, what evidences have been provided so far for the well parroted wild allegations?
Many have parroted that Hausa was not offered until 1974/1975, but did they provide any evidence?

Have you seen the funny calculation that Buhari is 76yrs and WAEC is 66yrs.
So, 76 - 66 = 10yrs?

With the conclusion that how could Buhari have written WAEC at age 10.

Please is this calculation from a sane minded human being who is not deliberately mischievous?

How can you calculate that Buhari is 10 yrs older than WAEC, then deviously conclude he wrote his WASC at age 10, when all records showed he wrote it in 1961 at age 19?

ivandragon:
lol.

you know you will still show the back of that certificate, so why beat about the bush?

I know what is on the back page of my WASSC, I however do not know (at this time) what is written on the back page of a genuine Cambridge Certificate.

what will it cost you to enlighten me here & now since you have access to it?

do the needful & let's move on.


personally, the PMB certificate is a non-issue. the Nigerian Constitution already provides him the loophole he needs.

but it helps deepen our democratic process when citizens insist/demand for clarification on certain issues.

It is almost impossible to see the back of a publicly available certificate, because the front is what anyone posts, or transmits on the internet, on job application web portals etc.

So without having access to the physical copy, no chance of a back page view. Hence, my advice to check your personal one.

I may later have physical access to one from early 1960s (for my dad) which I still read through in October.

The crux of the information is that a number of credit grades (6 credits and above or so) amount to division 1, (5 credits ) amount to division 2, and (4 credits) amount to division 3.

Also some subjects are designated as compulsory passes and can also influence what final division is achieved.

freeman500:
Pls shed more light on the reply of Cambridge paragraph 2.... In the letter dated 2015 how come they were quoting an act of 2018?

The link is updated frequently by Cambridge Assessment.

So the body of the statement as at today, is different from the body of the statement from January 2015 when those enquiries to Cambridge were replied to. The screenshots I posted are the ones from 2015, while anyone can open the link to see the updated content as at the day the weblink is opened.

The election referenced on the website is actually the 2015 elections when the search for the truth regarding Hausa language in 1961 WASC and Buhari's certificate was an issue that has resurfaced again now for the 2019 election.

ivandragon:
a lot of PMB supporters have this very archaic mentality that he cannot be questioned.


in almost all well structured organisations, members of staff are routinely told to bring their original certificates for citing, especially at promotion interviews.


some who have been working for over 30 years in an organisation still have their certificates verified when necessary.


so why should buharists, in their twisted reasoning, think PMB should not be questioned? there are former professors who rose to the position by using false results.

as a matter of fact, those who vehemently criticised the academic qualification of PMB, have helped institute a standard, which is, aspirants must be able to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they actually possess what they say they have...


besides, if the buharists are truthful to themselves (they never seem to be) they are relieved that WAEC has given them some 'credible support' to argue their points.


bottom line: PMB is not infallible. he is not above been questioned. the earlier his deluded supporters realise that, the earlier all Nigerians can begin to hold our leaders accountable irrespective of tribe, party or upbringing...

Even when it is obvious people have been presented with facts and evidences, but they would rather prefer to hold on to the words of beer parlour analyst who have no authority in the matter nor have presented evidence?

Are you not ashamed for those who still insist that there was no Hausa in 1961?

Are you not ashamed for those who claim that WAEC Ghana national office that replied to the correspondence of a Nigerian, have the records on Nigerian exams, even when WAEC Nigeria has responded to such outrageous claims?

Can you tell me why you are not berating them, or what evidence have they provided for their beer parlour opinions

While you claim some are relieved just now in 2018 because of an attestation that will never be presented to INEC to legal reasons, Is that not evidence that some will be disappointed that their propaganda has been crippled?

What evidence is greater that the raw Cambridge Result master sheet that has been released publicly since 2015?

There is no need for evidence or proof to make wild allegations, but when official records and facts are tendered to disprove the wild allegations, it becomes fabricated and forged.

What then is the standard used to measure wild allegations that are believed?

Please anyone pretending to be asleep should continue sleeping.

Sun Maji!

ivandragon:
then simply show it...

When you tender photocopies of your school certificate, do you photocopy front and back?

Or when you scan your school certificate, do you scan front and back?

Or have the details to be seen over not clearly identified on the front page so you know what to expect on the other side?

No need to start playing the devil's advocate here over what lies behind. Check your certificate and you would know what lies behind.

ivandragon:
the Certificate clearly states "see over" in two places.

can you avail us on what is shown over?

besides, I clearly stated i was not holding brief on the originality or otherwise of the Certificate.

that people ask that things be done properly does not make them enemies of anyone. get that into your baised skull.

See over in this very case is for the asterix next to the English language, showing there are details behind for oral English.

All school certificates have a back page which is for information on the grades and on the final division grading of 1, 2, or 3 for the result. That accounts for the rest of the "see over".

The certificate number for the years for which it is applicable, are always written on the front page together with the candidate number.

coolscott:
Back in the day, being a successful secondary school graduate was a big deal. Passing WASC was a big deal

Obtaining entry into a university was an even bigger mega deal.

So when Buhari's principal wrote the military that recommendation letter both Buhari (and all the other boys that were not rushed - that were getting in after writing WASC) where a super mega deal.

Each one was a huge celebration in his village.

They were given army uniforms, and started a new career as Nigerian army officers.

Do you think it would have been easy for Buhari to come back one day to his village, remove his Nigerian military uniform and wear the secondary school uniform (along with his juniors he had "left behind" and actually seat for that exam?

Not to be skipped: He had already started receiving allowances as a working man should, and the money so terribly made sense in those days

2 weeks of signalling to everyone that something might be wrong (when nothing was indeed wrong)? You know how the village people would have taken the anti-climax of it.

Besides, do you think in the military, they were preparing him for WASC? How many hours in total (from the time he set foot in the military) did he spend getting himself ready for the examination?

My position:

He couldn't sum up the courage to take off the glory of his military robe and replace it with the secondary school garb.

Also, he may have felt he was not even prepared for the examination considering the fact he had spent the whole year in military training as opposed to academic training.

You mean your brain has failed to comprehend all the records showing his grades in the said exam?

Even the raw grades on the Cambridge result master sheet from which any Statement of Result, Certificate or Attestation would be derived, still could not awaken your sleeping brain?

My brother continue sleeping.

No be today man dey pretend to be asleep.

ehissi:
Your own ignorance is just a spectacular as Chris's own.

Else what business does WAEC have issuing attestation for an exam, WASC, administered by University of Cambridge, London Examinations Syndicate (Now known as the Cambridge Assessment)?

Why hasn't President Buhari simply placed a request for an attestation from Cambridge assessment, instead of ordering for this '"forgery"/Christmas gift in advance from WAEC, who neither administered the exams, nor are in possession of his result nor his certificate.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/11/we-can-only-release-buharis-certificate-if-he-requests-for-it-cambridge/

Another ignorant fellow who is arrogant and even blind.

Is there any WASC exam from 1952 since WAEC was established, that was not jointly conducted by Cambridge and WAEC?

You did not see WAEC written on the Cambridge result master sheet?

You did not see WAEC on the sample certificate from 1961 which was the year for Buhari's WASC? Even a sample certificate from 1959 WASC in my archives has WAEC boldly written below the Cambridge.

So WAEC should not issue Attestation for an exam it was involved in its preparation, marking, recording and original Certificate issue?

And Cambridge that have already confirmed that Certificates are never reissued, but would only also issue a certifying copy (attestation), would not be pulling the grades from the Cambridge result master sheet that has been publicly available since 2015?

You are researching the agricultural origins of a cube of sugar, and you have been shown the sugar cane source of the sugar, but you insist you would only be satisfied when you have seen the paper package.


Again Ignorance remains the greatest factor fueling criticisms.

Thanks for serving as a lab rat for the social experiment.

Ziggylady:
The documents you presented are crap and i do not believe you or any of your APC goons by a long shot..If that makes me inanimate,then you must be a zombified robot for insisting an'inanimate' buys your lies..

You can shatter your head against the wall if you are pained..its your headache.

I do not intend to educate an inanimate object.

You mean government in time past have called on Labour that there is excess money in government purse, and would like to know if Labour is ready to receive an increment?


I think to cure the epidemic partisan idiocy that has enveloped Nigeria, there is a need to ban all political parties and existing politicians, and start afresh with new ones.

Ziggylady:
I am 'inanimate' yet you read,understood,is pained and quoted what i posted.

Your head needs to be examined then.

You read and understood all the records presented to you, yet you insist you must not be educated?

I repeat that you are inanimate.

NaijaRoyalty:
I don't know if you've forgotten history so soon , PDP government increased minimum wage from 7000k to 18k
And it didn't take PDP one year to agree and implement it .

Please remind us about the oil revenue then and how much was available as government savings inherited from Yar'Adua in 2010.

Also remind us what was available as Foreign Reserves inherited from Yar'Adua in 2010.

This underscores that as Ghana Labour Union has no business with Nigerian labour affairs, so does WAEC Ghana National office have no business with academic records that belong to WAEC Nigeria National office.

What has been proven over and over is that a lot of people dabble into a debate and utter beer parlour opinions as fact.

Hausa not offered in 1961, proved to be a lie.

WAEC Ghana national office has academic records of Nigeria, proved to be a lie.

1961 WASC certificate had certificate No, proved to be a lie.

Yet PDP continues to make a mockery of themselves.

Oh I forgot that Atiku is campaigning to be President of the Islamic Kingdom of UAE.

Ziggylady:
Buhari has no WAEC certificate or its equivalent,never had and never will.

Moving on,i learnt Buhari has approved 30k minimum wage but he will still go back to Daura next year..IJN,

EOD.

Education was never meant for inanimate objects.

You are inanimate, so you are not expected to acquire knowledge.

docadams:
Appreciation for sharing. Before now I have decided to abandon those ready to commit suicide on this case to their faith after checking up the meaning of N/A(Not Applicable)
“Not applicable” means that something does not apply. “Not Applicable”, usually shortened to “N/A” is often used when filling out forms, to indicate that the information requested does not apply to the person who is filling out the particular form. - quora.com

Those who are ignorant insisted it was applicable and held on to a 1984 certificate as proof, without considering that 1984 is far removed from 1961 to be making comparisons.

Now that the proof from 1961 has been provided, showing that WAEC indeed knows what it is doing, watch them shamelessly change the goal post.

Ok