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^^Then apply the same process to Quran. Qr Quran should not be read in context, but Bible must?

@Tidytim; [quote]How about a concoction of fairy tales ,[/Quote]where man was wrestling with God and overcoming God and man. does that sound about right?


[Qupte] myth ,[quote][/Quote]where a man can sell his birth right because his mother hated him and the uncle who didnt, he was tagged an ass of a man.


[Quote] plagiarised scripture and poems,[/Quote]The egyptian myth of 3 gods, with a son born by a virgin, and i think your calling psalm a poem is below you. no. you are below it.


[Quote] all cobbled together into one chaotic ,[/Quote] this reminds me of the 7 spirits of Biblical God.


[Quote] unchronological ,[/Quote]imitate Surah Fatih for a moment, from your Bible, tinytim.


[Quote] confusing mayhem called the Quran[/Quote]You wanted to write the Bibles, i imagine.

@tidytim: thats a bad name for yourself, because there is tidycat which is dirt here in the usa.

[Quote]Are you kidding me Undecided[/Quote]No. he is for real.


[Quote]is this from the same corrupt Bible Undecided[/Quote]the truth mixed with corruption can be identified. Like God is 1 is the truth. But God is 3 persons is the corruption.


[Quote]So without the Bible Muhammad is like undone , right Undecided[/Quote]Muhammad [as] is supported enough in the Quran. That all I follow. The rest is gravy.


[Quote]The bible is either corrupt or it isn't.[/Quote] how about the mixture of corruption and truth? Have you thought of that tidy?


[Quote]Something is fishy when your so called scholars only select and twist passages that they think validate the prophethood of Muhammad.[/Quote]Your ignorance is making you smell fish. Tell me who is the one that God will speak with and he will simply repeat it and whosoever does not follow him will be required of him? Remember you call Jesus a God, already and your flamey ghost never spoke a word, and addition he is God, also?


[Quote]Try a different game with me !!!![/Quote]tidytim needs to read what david wood wrote in his own word. follow the link. it will lead you to another where you will read david wood in his original. Or is satan so much on top of you that you can't follow the link? take shaadah and then say audhu bIllahi minal shytani rajim. you will see how quickly your heart is strengthened.

Below is the dialogue between Lagosshia and Frosbel;

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Re: Sodomy And Gang violation: Islam's Legacy With The Blessings Of Sharia.
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Quote from: LagosShia on Yesterday at 01:14:17 AM
it is not forbidden for a prophet to sleep with his "slave" girl especially when this term refers to POW.we see in the bible that God ordered Moses to kill all the women and children and men but only spare the virgins.spare virgins for what?


Okay , I understand, you are operating under 5000BC stone age practises Tongue

Anyway you do not need to worry about Virgins , there are 72 waiting for you in Paradise. Grin
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Re: Sodomy And Gang violation: Islam's Legacy With The Blessings Of Sharia.
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Quote from: frosbel on Yesterday at 01:32:23 AM
Okay , I understand, you are operating under 5000BC stone age practises Tongue
so your bible god changes his mind with time? well it looks like he is growing up!!!or may be you guys are more advance than him when he was at his age 5000 years ago.

you have just admitted that your bible contains stoneage laws and your god is crude and foolish.

as for us,we dont live in self denial and we try to be as chaste and moral as possible as the Quran commands us.what we hate is when you try to lie and play with us to portray us for what we are truly not.

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Anyway you do not need to worry about Virgins , there are 72 waiting for you in Paradise. Grin


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Tidytim needs help. Ask David Wood to show you the verses in the Bibles where Jesus said he is God and or demanding worship from mankind?

The history of Quran is known to muslims.

@Judek2:^^First his life before Islam. He is head and shoulders above all. In Islam he bettered himself. He shines as a star even now. No one who have walked this earth equals his dedication to God and or his commitment to the ultimate success of mankind.

His life in Islam; his obedience to God.
His kindness to all. His resolve as he walked the path laid out to him by his Lord.
He encouraged all to be on that path and not deviate from it. Indeed he was a means of mercy and forgiveness for all.

He broke the ethnic and other artificial barriers to reach God; what he left is what God commanded; Piety and God consciousness.

He was a medium between harshness and meekness. There was nothing fake about him and reaching goal of success with God by those who follow Muhammad [as] is not a fairy tale.

We do not have just an eye for an eye or just give them your other cheek. We have through Muhammad [as a balance between; if you want to retaliate, it should be equal not greater. if you wish to forgive, do it for the pleasure of God instead of being a mumu by offering the other eye so that you become a totally blind man.

It his lifestyle in love that i am trying to copy with my spouse. I do my own cooking. I cook for her. i never asked her what she does with her money. I do not allow her to contribute anything except her love from the heart for the sake of God.

Muhammad [as] in death is alike in the hearts of believers; there is no fighting that has no rule of engagement.

Maybe you need to tell me what aspect of his life that you wish to talk about and i will devote my time telling it to you.

^^^^^^ We have asked christians many times to tell us when Aisha [ra] was born relative to her father's acceptance of Islam. No one has told me anything, yet.

Islam of Muhammad [as] and her father's entry of it are two major events in Makka during her time. If I factor other benchmarks, i will say her engagement to be married the very first time that was later cancelled, and her father's intended migration to Ethiopia. Can anyone tell us which came before she was born and how do you know it?

if no christian can tell us, including you mr. juju who i believe is not a christian but a [herb worshiper?] somewhat interested in the dialogue, i can tell you that none of the listed events took place before her birth. hadith are like the biblical verse; when you put the thinking cap on and do thorough analysis of it, you may find it to be a fabrication.

a woman who participated in drawing up her own marriage contract [contract is an agreement where two parties make demands that protect the parties against undue advantage by the other party] should be aware of what she was going into. a 15 year old, maybe, but not a 6 year old unless the 6 years old person is a phenom.

^^^^^^^^ if somebody were to stab, shoot, or any other life ending act on many people. while everyone died right on the spot, one miraculously survived it without any evidence on his person that the incident took place.

let just assume that 3 years later, the person is dying and says that he had complications that are always the hallmark of approaching of death. among the complication is just a ping of pain in the spot of the bullet entry so long ago.

can anyone in his right mind that the bullet entry is the sole source of death, 3 years after the fact? if that it is, the dying person is actually a superhuman.

contrast him with the one who is simply strung up or the one who was merely dip in boiling water, which ended their lives? who is the superman, rather the one God is his Support among the 3 people?

@Plappville; I say audhu bIllahi mina shaytaani rajim to satan and by the time i say it 3 times, he must disappear otherwise disaster will touch him directly from Allah. do you have a source of protection like that? are you confident enough to stake anything on it, if only you remember how satan worked on Jesus in so many ways and then on Peter who he entered and became satan?

^^^^^^^^^ People are violated all the time. Since there is no verse in Quran that accepts rap.e as a normal situation, I wonder if you will not chalk that up to bad people doing evil in spite of them claiming to be muslims?

No woman or man have seen my area of privacy; from my belly button to my knee in over 2 or 3 decades. Everyone on earth knows that rap.e is bad and evil. Islam goes against it. I never paid attention to Nigerian politics, why do you think i wil pay attention to the politics in Egypt? What happens in Egypt is the problems of Egyptians, while that in Nigeria is that of Nigerians.

If i had insult your parents, which i didnt do, it would have been of less evil than your insulting 1.5 billion people in one single shot. I know that your responding to me is like going back in time; but is better for you to go back in time to correct yourself.

if you are the future of Nigeria, people like me need to call you back to what is reasonable. Otherwise, nigeria will collapse on your watch.

@Bulldog: « #95 on: Today at 11:22:22 AM »
[Quote]Yeah, if that's how your beclouded mind let you understand it, i can break it down at your level:-D He grows up so? What about gods like allah that grows down? From supporting adultery centuries ago to supporting gang violation of women now. And as tomorrow comes, i wonder what your allah will start supporting? Maybe he'll run outta sins and start inventing new sins cos as of now, all known sins are included in his inventory of good deeds, from adultery, Fornication, stealing, murder, suicide, genocide, torture, racism etc. All wise allah basking in the darkness of his laws. Some life! Something naijababe said got my attention
[66:6] O you who believe, protect yourselves and your families from the Hellfire whose fuel is people and rocks. Guarding it are stern and powerful angels who never disobey GOD; they do whatever they are commanded to do.


Being the controller of hell, i'm wondering who really is allah? Lol[/Quote]God in that verse is Allah, The Speaker. Now, is the first bold not exactly talking to the 3rd bold in how the writer of 1st and 3rd bold[s] understand the QUran quoted? Is Allah the "guarding" of hell or the stern and powerful angels who never disobey God? Is man not fuel of hell from this verse just as stones are from the verse?

@Bulldog: « #94 on: Today at 10:49:48 AM »
[Quote]Sweetnecta, look at my original post. It ain't condemning you but but rather is against what you take as faith which is evil and that i believe made you to condemn me even my parents you dont even know. islam can make you do evil and contradict yourself.[/Quote]If you spoke to Florence, she will tell you she does not see a run of the mill nigerian in me. I told you that it is Islam that made me a better person, a work in good progress, abandoning anything that is bad in me, for the sake of Allah. Allah is the One Who commanded Islam on me so that He may look into my worship. You complain that i criticized you and your parents, but you forgot that I am 1 of 1.5 Billion people around the world who are muslims. Yet you criticize this very religion where today you have people who could easily be parents of your parent in this religion. You are not ashamed or contrived at your words, but you want me to respect you, when I am sure that I could easily have you as a son. Should I not educate you or do you forget that it takes a village to raise a child and many villages to stare the foo.lish child away from dangerous destination?


[Quote]you have igbo, hausa, fulni,,  Yet you'll laugh at your inlaws when a relative of his living in the north get's killed. Only a muslim has such capability. Lol. A[b] true islam[/b] and a patriot you are. with such hatred against your fellow human and humanity.[/Quote] Are you representing what is good in Igbo people? No you are not. Not what I know about Igbo people. I laff at you because you are vile and shameless person. Igbos are unlike you. I know igbo enough. I love them enough that i can safely say that you are a bent rib among them. And i do not ave fulani or hausa in my family. And how is your classifying "Only a muslim has such capacity" is excusable? Are you not just as bad as boko haram and their supporters in meanness and never see good in what is different from Them?  I am not a true Islam because Islam is the religion.


[Quote]will you travel to your inlaw and get him killed when he tells you the truth or maybe when he is in pain? Hehehe.[/Quote]You are my in law? dont deceive yourself. evil person will never be part of the people I will accept as my in law. Abeg dress [move].


[Quote] See what islam did to your mind.[/Quote]It is islam that makes me a better person.


[Quote] Emulate your christian friend florence.[/Quote]Islam made me better enough that this first class nigerian counts me as one of her confidants. Knowing that I will always protect her and will never violate her trust.


[Quote] :-D. And by the way you didn't in anyway cancel the gang violation of the reporter by islam faithfuls and leaders cos it's what your koran stipulates once the victim isn't an islam faithful. Q.9: 29
Fight those who believe not in
Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold
that forbidden which hath been
forbidden by Allah and His
Messenger, nor acknowledge the
religion of Truth, (even if they
are) of the People of the Book,
until they pay the Jizya with
willing submission, and feel
themselves subdued. [/Quote]Show me gang ra.pe or even ra.pe permissibility in Q 9/29, otherwise you are shameless.

Does Islam copy Judaism? Absolutely not. There is nothing Islam has in common with Judaism. We only have to look at how each worships to know that they are worlds, apart.

The similar stories are human stories and they are told differently and have different tones and spirituality.

Allah says that the Quran is revealed in the Night of Power to mean the very first revelation of the Quran [Only five verses from Surah Alaq] were revealed in the Night of Power. Do you disbelievers want to teach Allah your religions and teach Him about the Book He revealed, too?

As an illustration of what it means of Quran being revealed in the Night of Power, is like if a man says I married my wife on this xyz date. But it was the very day they say saw each other, both agreeing in that very moment to be husband and wife. Yet the marriage ceremony was months later. Can we say we know when they actually exchanged the vows and peg it as the day they finally say I do in front of everyone, whereas they have said I do privately that very first time? Have you heard "It is just like the very first time"? That first time is what count, just like when Abraham became a father the very first time with his only son Ismail [as].

Anyone who knows anything about the Quran will tell you that, when the 5 verses were revealed, that was Quran. Until another revelation came, the 5 verses were the "Quran". After the new revelation was added, the Quran simply gained more verses, becoming richer and fuller, and at the end of revelation, 23 years later you have the richest and fullest Book of Spirituality guiding into the absolute truth, wherein corrections were made to the falsehood that had entered into the previous Books, changing then to corrupted texts.

Any muslim will recite1 verse and he/she can simply tell you that he/she has recited the Quran. I have made a rakat by just simply reciting "salaamu qawlam min Rabbi Rahim' in Surah Ya Siiin. Or just part of any surah after reciting Surah Fatiha.

To demonstrate the Mercy of Allah on Muslims, if you have not learned any chapter of the Quran, you could simply say Subhannallah {I think 3 time, and other words of praises like Alhamdulillah, Laa ilaha ilallah [i will check]] and that will be sufficient.




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@Judek2: « on: Yesterday at 07:43:24 PM »
[Quote]Christians are always urged to emulate Christ,the teachings and actions of Jesus in all his ministries[/Quote]Jesus was not a christian or Jew by religion, so you are emulating a man who has nothing to do with your religion. Do you emulate any significant part of his teachings, actions in all his ministries? O fcourse not. You destroyed and abolished the OT, prophets and laws before him after he had told you not to and leave every as was until another comforter will tell you whats remaining and what to throw out. His action in all his ministries are followed only in lip services. Tell me who has allowed the turn the other cheek to be realized? I know you will say its politics if I mention the western countries failed and instead preemptively struck Iraq. Christianity or christians are never at fault, its their politics and tribal agenda that are always at fault.


[Quote]All his life ,he was sinless and blameless thus any Christian, who acts differently from the teachings of Christ will never be called a true Christian.[/Quote]Do you know how to define sin? Or the consequence of sin should be less than punishment unless forgiven by God? Does God sin? Does God say something and go against it without any condition? Here is what Jesus did proving himself sinful, ungodly and definitely human like me being prone to sin; Do not say fool, because you will go to hell for it. Jesus turned around and say fool. There are many other instances. And Jesus prayed "forgive us our sins. . .'. Jesus resisted the Will of the Biblical God by begging that the cup be passed over his head. Is there any of these that will considered as a sin if Moses did it or the one you are his staunch enemy did it?


[Quote]As a Muslim, who should you emulate?[/Quote]Muhammad [as]. And he is the one am trying to emulate.


[Quote]You must like and strive to emulate your founder, the Prophet.[/Quote]Now Jesus was a prophet. In later argument, he will be God. Can you people ever decide what he really was? So confused that they are saying he was the founder of Christianity. Really? Try Paul for size and the people of antioch who called those who you say you are following [followers of Jesus and their followers, we read] the wrong name.


[Quote]So, what aspect of his life will inspire and be worthy of emulation in order to live a righteous and holy life.[/QUote]Muhammad [as] was never as harsh as the Biblical Moses or as docile as Jesus the human god of the Christians based on the Bibles.


[Quote]« #1 on: Today at 08:55:16 AM »
It seems no Muslim knows his left and right. . Seems so ashamed to justify the life of their Prophet.[/Quote]Are you for real? The best form of flattery is when takes your name. Muhammad, Mustapha, etc [as] names of the messenger [as] are borne by muslims and non muslims than the number of christians being called Jesus. Facts. How are the muslims ashamed of Muhammad [as[ when they know that copying any of his ways is a blessing on them? Are you going to be blessed if you perform miracles in the name of Jesus? Not according to the words of Jesus on the pages of the Bible. In fact, Paul said Jesus is cursed. And before Jesus left this earth cursed the likes of Paul and all your miracle workers. They will be told "I never knew ye. . .".


[Quote]No one can even answer my question.
You are just Leaving a random life with no guiding.
A big pity on your side. Lips sealed Undecided[/Quote]Following the footstep of Muhammad [as], its 4.27 am here and my salah will not come up until 5.50 am or so. Just like Isa bin Maryam and other [as] before Muhammad [as], night prayers are enjoined on the prophets. Muhammad was told in Surah Taha to pray not all night, but a little or less half of the night. Islam was made easier on him by his Lord. He in turn as our final comforter made it easiest on us; Pray the last 1/3 of the night your night prayers. I gat to go now. Bye.

And it is sweetnecta. i will not mind if when you or people of your mindset write Yoruba, but dont extend it to individual.

@bulldog: « #90 on: Today at 08:30:54 AM »
[Quote]Hehehe, Look at your post sweetnectar and tell me who's the tribalist? And racist and filled with hatred. Am not fighting with you or have anything against you as a person as you claim. I'm just against the evils condoned in islam.[/Quote]I am such a tribalist that my nieces are fathered by Igbo man. And we did not charge any dowry when Ayoka married him. I am such a racist that marry an igbo woman, paying more than what the family set as bride price. I am filled with such hatred many igbos are my closest friends, even women among them. Oh. Did i remember to tell you that my in laws are igbos?
Do you have a yoruba or hausa in your family tree? My niece is about to marry a Calabar man and I have set her dawry at Zero USD. Yes I am a racist yoruba man and you are the real Nigerian, not a Biafran Christian. Go back home and educate whoever scre.wed your head up. People like me think that your generation will settle Nigeria as a country. But I am wrong, because its most of you as I see it on NL now are bent on her destruction> You can't point to a single non Igbo confidant you have. Forget his or her religion. You need to learn is one of my objective on NL.

@Davidylan; « #35 on: Today at 01:58:58 AM »
[Quote]My dear,[/Quote]ha ha. he called me his dear. watch his next statement. it will be pure filth. is he sincere? thats deceit.


[Quote] the blood of Jesus Christ protects me.[/Quote]But cant protect Jesus Christ himself.


[Quote] Your allah is a powerless weakling who depends on hateful terrorists like you to fight his battles for him.[/Quote]Is He the One that said people should sell all their clothes and buy swords, then said He was powerless on His own, then cried out to His Lord God Ellah? You are a joke?


[Quote] What are you evil maniac going to do?[/Quote]I will imitate the one who prostrated his face all night at the Gethsemane. I will cry for help like him. Dummy.


[Quote] Get a sword and start pursuing me around by allah?[/Quote]You remember the comrades who bought swords? Watch out and remember to protect your ears. They are terrible at aiming.


[Quote] Cheesy I laugh in the face of you and your little, powerless idol.[/Quote]Your joke is on the one who has a cross, sorry idol between the two of us. Ha ha.


[Quote]Romans 8:31What shall we then say to these things?[/Quote]What things because it is an ambiguous statement?


[Quote]If God be for us, who can be against us? 32[b]He that spared not his own Son[/b], but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?[/Quote]Do these two go together? If he rejected the pleas of his son and allowed him to be killed by their mutual enemies, do you see how easily he will let even your friends do you in?


[Quote] 33Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. 34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.[/Quote]Make up, because none is from Jesus. Either the writer of Roman is the another comforter or he is a fake like the fire tongue that does not speak.


[Quote] 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or unclothedness, or peril, or sword?[/Quote]The sword, again. Will the people that "king Jesus" commanded his court to bring before him and slaughter be saying they are loved by the killer? You see how convoluted the mind of the writer of Roman is?


[Quote]Neither can dead gods like allah.[/Quote]I do not set up a medium between me and Allah The Almighty Who created death and impose it only on His creatures. How is the Creator dead, except the dead is not the Creator? Dead on the cross, anyone? I tell ya.

@Frosbel; Are you saying that the spirit that God breathe or allowed to enter man so that the body is carried to be erect and alive is not creation of God but God? Is that what you are saying of the Quran description of the creation of Adam [as], etc?

When you read Surah Ikhlas, you will quickly know that the spirit [soul in other word] that entered Adam so that he was no more a lump of dirt but living breathing walking man is creation of God, but not part of God. There is a Creator and the rest are creations [body of man and spirit that is soul of man].

@Bulldog: Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 12:36:07 AM
[Quote]does laughing at the face of evil make you human or evil?[/Quote]human.


[Quote] That's clearly another islam idiosyncrasy at work.[/Quote]But Jesu laffed at the face of evil.


[Quote] You said have igbo friends and family members and laughing at their ordeal is what you do when they are in peril and calling me the child of a deranged person that fought for his family his loved ones and humanity your idea of good as you claim you were taught by islam?[/Quote]Did igbo killed any non igbo during the war? Did the military humiliated even yoruba captured army? Watch youtube about it. Did i know of igbo who remain within the yoruba community throughout the 30 months of the war? Yes.


[Quote] Go get some life.[/Quote]you need education.


[Quote]i believe she is all you said cos she is a christian and an igbo,[/Quote]no. She is a good nigerian, different the ethno trabalists i have seen here on NL. i guess its because of here good heart and her age being a successful person, there is no reason for her to be bitter.


[Quote] That's how we are.[/Quote]I guess you and almost 80% of the folks on nairaland are the abnormals?


[Quote] And maybe i might be a fake but islam is a fake entirely.[/Quote]Islam is what makes me different from typical Yoruba as we are called here on NL.


[Quote] You said many good thing about your friend but instead of emulating her and embracing the force and belief that make her all that good,[/Quote]If i give her details to you and you ask her about me, I am sure you will have a different opinion.


[Quote] you pray for her to get which other guidance that the holy spirit isn't alreading given her which her action entails?[/Quote]tell me the name of the holy spirit, then i will take you seriously.


[Quote] from: Sweetnecta on Today at 12:36:07 AM
Tell this to the state of texas and many others which have death penalty in their books. the world is more complex than your south east village of nigeria. Go to Owerri and other big cities to learn that there is always a rule of law. I wonder if your village people will not hang times on the neck of a village thief, despoiler, etc?
my village doesn't gang violate people in our market square and that's as simple as it gets.[/Quote]Does the bold address whats above it?


[Quote]yeah i know you might want to kill me for telling you the truth.[/Quote]You think I am Pat Robertson of 700 club who is eager to advocate the death of people? You are out of your mind.


[Quote] And how is that different from what boko harám is doing which you claim is a bad flavour of islam. Even With ur good islam, the evil of islam still lingers in you.[/Quote]The bad Islam has stopped me from fornication, consumption of alcohol, pork, steal, even indulge in interest giving or consumption, etc. And I am struggling like everyone.


[Quote] and i can bet you didn't even know when you wrote that cos it's more of an impulse to every muslim.[/Quote]I don't act on impulse. If you bet, you will become poor or remain poor.


[Quote]yeah come the east and see for yourself and not just keep your head in the sky and talk irrationally with you urban mind, muslims are well catered for in my village, just like flourence is proving to you over there even as they persecute christians.[/Quote]My in laws are Igbos. Am i not proving to her; do you think it is a one way street and forget birds of the same feather flock together? You have no foresight.


[Quote] And you know what they pay us with? They send us Dead bodies of our loved ones in trucks.please sweetnecta, evaluate your thinking cos the evil and darkness of islam is already eating through you.[/Quote]And will the Iraqi speak, please. Or the afghans.


[Quote] You talked of a gang violation in abia as a kinda blackmail to christianity but i also fail to see the link cos the report didn't even say they where christians and the motive wasn't in anyway related to christianity, sure the act evil and that's why christians traced the video and identified the culprits(even though it's almost an imposible feat given the nature of the internet, that's if you know anything about the web).[/Quote]I don't know anything about the internet, though the rapi.st said "Jesus Christ".


[Quote] What did muslims do in a far more simpler case, they waited for their turn in the middle of a village! Abomination![/Quote]Have you not known how common gang rap.ing is common in the western countries? The reason nigeria was particular about what happened is that it is not an african culture. Christians are covered by the blood of jesus. no?


[Quote] And what was the crime of the reporter violated? She isn't a muslim and is from america(which they got wrong cos she is from south africa).[/Quote]So I am responsible or islam is responsible for every evil a muslim commits, while christianity is not responsible for any evil a christian commits? What sense of justice is that?

@Davidylan: You forget that Jesus was there and he saw all the saints who have passed, then. If they didn't burn along with Jesus, InshaAllah I will not burn, too. Ha ha. I can, by Allah turn all your happiness to gnashing of teeth for you. Remain a christian and end up in hell like those who Jesus will say "i do not know ye" to.

@davidylan; « #19 on: Today at 07:15:42 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 07:08:36 PM
^^^^^^ It is you people that Allah is burdened with half alive and always nearly dead.

I guess once death, judgement day does not apply to most of you! Ha ha.

actually i would be worried if virtually NONE of reported NDE's corroborates anything mohammad ever said.[/Quote]What is in the mind Allah has revealed it.


[Quote] But of course, you struggle hard to hide the anxiety in your lives by empty bluster.[/Quote]Death is part of the unseen. What Muhammad [as] spoke about in it [Based on Quran, from the point of seeing the angel of death, etc till when the one in the grave is questioned], not earlier prophet spoke to his community about it to that extend. No earlier community took it to heart to that extend as the community of Muhammad [as]. You only have to see a dead person before the washing, during it, shrouding the body, praying on the body, burying it, etc. And for those who are fortunate enough to be protected by their acts of ibadat, their trial in the grave is very easy. May Allah make it so for all the muslims. Amin.

Allah says about Jesus in Surah Nisaa ". . . it only appeared to them so. . .".

If I stop here, Allah has justified the muslims. Lets look at what shaytan has done to the disbelievers; he has been allowed to control them so much so that he has created illusion in their lives; some see shaytan and say it is Jesus, when there was no picture of Jesus. Some say God is 3 persons. Can their fainting therefore not be a humiliation in their lives, as they think that they have died and woke up, a silly near death experience? If you are dead, truly dead does not come back because you would have seen angel of death.

I am not ready because there are still many things in my life to be done. But i am always preparing so i resist my wanting to do evil all the time for the sake of Allah.

there you have it, frosbel, right from the mouth of the horse before you make an ass of yourself; oh you of little faith. and you are not working hard to compensate for it.

oh yea. your work is worthless as a filthy rag, frosbel [i am just repeating your bible that has shut you out of mercy]. if you cant get with jesus, how are you going to get with the Ellah of Jesus?

^^^^^^ It is you people that Allah is burdened with half alive and always nearly dead.

I guess once death, judgement day does not apply to most of you! Ha ha.

@Frosbel: i am not a sufi. its cold here so i am keeping indoor. what about your 3 Gods?

@davidylan; « #11 on: November 23, 2011, 07:41 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on November 22, 2011, 12:26 AM
nowhere in Islamic literature that it is stated that a person will experience death, see the other side and then come back to tell us. If that is the case, everyone else who hears his story will either change, mending his way or just calls him a wacko.

since jews and christians are completely opposite, the former saying the later is a pagan by taking human being as God and the later saying the reign of the later is over, you guys seeing the same thing can can only prove that you are both in the wrong.

truth about after life is known only by a person who is truly dead. what you christians and your big brothers the jews in your near death experience is the gimmick of satan who is controlling you.

you could just have easily kept quiet. Grin[/Quote]what should i do with this nonsense.

leave ruqayah out of it. you do not control my mouth just as i do not control yours. you say what you want, and i say what i want. between the two of us somebody is lying or both of us are. it will not be possible for both of us to be telling the truth. is the bible word of God? no. if it is it will not be changing and full of inconsistencies, even as to what God is; 1 for OT, 3 for NT.

^ frosbel; so you could not prove that Jesus said he is God?
so you could prove that Jesus said you must worship him?

Dr. Craig was right; only in NT can you read into it that there are 3 persons; 1, 2, 3 in 1 God.

Compute [computer[ the math for us, nau. I laff at you in oguta local government dialect.

@Davidylan: « #1 on: January 25, 2012, 08:51 AM »
[Quote]another hypocrite taking advantage of western freedom. Let him go to mecca and make such a video.[/Quote]The dude is as white as lily and born in New York City. Are you going to take his natural birth right from him, thinking he is Esau and christianity is his Jacob?

Mehn, you are a special case. Are you going to be more western and more american than him who can trace his blood line even to mayflower or before it? Your religion has clogged up your mind.

@Omar22: « #22 on: Yesterday at 03:29:41 PM »

[Quote]Not only God's words but also his promises!!![/Quote]Jesus who is powerless because he is not God has made this promise to his so called followers: "I do not know ye"

^^^^^^^^^^ two village [idiot.ic] people. you people are familiar with disco era musical group? they were weird people.