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^^^^Frosbel is so ignorant that the english need to send him out of the country directly to The Robbin Island Prison where Mandela and others used to be.

The wrong men were imprisoned there, while the right prisoner is now in England.

Christian bear Cain of all names.

Jews bear Judas of all names.

Jews and Christians hate each other more than arabs and or muslims could hate either of them.

Ishmael is the name of famous African American novelist, poet, essayist and activist Ishmael Reed,

Muslims bear it as Ismail, not Ishmael.

This is a very interesting read. Mankind needs to know these 3 personalities and properly identify them; Elijah reincarnate, Messiah, and the Prophet. Please don't derail the thread. No one is forced to participate if there is no relevant direct to the topic contribution intended.

Who were these three people?

Malachi 4 verse 5: "See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes


John the Baptist Denies Being the Messiah; John1 verse 19 to 23:
19 Now this was John’s testimony when the Jewish leaders[c] in Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was.
20 He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, “I am not the Messiah.”
21 They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?”
  He said, “I am not.”
  “Are you the Prophet?”
  He answered, “No.”
22 Finally they said, “Who are you? Give us an answer to take back to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?”
23 John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet, “I am the voice of one calling in the wilderness, ‘Make straight the way for the Lord.’”[d]


So John, son of Zacharias says of himself that prophesy of Malachi 4 verse 5 is unfulfilled on him. I then read somewhere that Jesus, son of Mary stated that John, son of Zacharias [and Zacharias was a prophet] was incorrect about himself. Jesus said that John, son of Zacharias is the Elijah expected.

But the issue of the "Are you the Prophet?" was not not settled by John, son of Mary even as he accused John, a Prophet and son of a Prophet of not knowing his own Prophetic office as Elijah incarnate. What is shocking though, is that Jesus didn't stop there. But he then said that the same John is the "greatest Prophet" ever brought out from the loin of Israel [Jacob].

But Jesus, son of Mary himself spoke about himself and so did his remaining 11 disciples speak about him as a Prophet of God, sent to the Children of Israel.

Can anyone provide me with the Original Jewish Language of the tongue of Jesus at the time of his ministry the above verses? I want to know how the Jewish scholars asked the questions of John, son of Zacharias and how he answered it, not in english and not in greek.

This way I will know what Elijah was called, what Messiah was called and what "The Prophet" was called.


Really who is "The Prophet" since neither John, son Zacharias nor Jesus of Mary was "The Prophet"?

Please watch this short video and tell me if you get anything from it. Please don't be shy to leave the clearest of your findings, exactly what it is contained in your heart. I want to know who Elijah is, if it is John, son of Zacharias or Jesus, son of Mary is correct and who is not correct between the two.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cur_6aYs_7k

@Davidylan and people who are elated like him: « #9 on: Today at 01:33:53 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: LagosShia on Yesterday at 07:07:21 PM
same do others also think of themselves-"conduit of information". Grin

al-Razi held religious views and wrote on islamic subjects and the Quran.i am not well acquainted on him as i have not sit to do some work on him.but that is the least i can tell you.

as a "conduit of information" also,i am only channelling the info i got that the points made to describe al-Razi as a "free thinker" are from doubtful/suspicious source(s).

and this is what he "wrote" on the quran - You claim that the evidentiary miracle is present and available, namely, the Koran. You say: “Whoever denies it, let him produce a similar one.” Indeed, we shall produce a thousand similar, from the works of rhetoricians, eloquent speakers and valiant poets, which are more appropriately phrased and state the issues more succinctly. They convey the meaning better and their rhymed prose is in better meter. … By God what you say astonishes us! You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation. Then you say: “Produce something like it”?!

pretty damning no? Muslims lie and lie horribly, what a surprise.[/Quote]In Ramadhan of 2001, after 9/11, a Book Titled "Furqan" showed its head in a mosque that I was making my Taraweehi. As usual between the first 2 /2 rakat and the last 2/2 rakat was a small talk. A guy from Guinea Conakry got up and present this hard cover authored by Shoroch the Palestinian Pastor/Evangelist in Texas. As he began he speech, he gave to book to the nearest person and advised it be passed around so that we could all be aware of it.

The moment you open it as he continued his speech, he didn't have to say more than the title before everyone caught on that we are looking at the best work of the who Christian arabs sponsored the best monies around; USA christianity and her European Supporter, trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the muslims. When you read the very first verse, it is in the manner of the Biblical, which is very different from the continuous flow of the whole Quran, from verse to the next verse below it and from the ending of a chapter to the unbreakable, if you will flow to the beginning of the following chapter. You could read the Quran from Suratul Fatiha to the Suratul Nas, and you may not take a break by just joining the ending of old chapter to beginning of the new one below it.

The Christian Furqan is a snow job; a do over, because it failed even in the hand of a casual read of the Quran, and definitely it will not pass as a viable competition on the lips of The Qari [reciters of Quran], for many reasons including the ruling on tajweed.

The "indeed we shall produce a thousand similar. . ." since then have been empty promise. Where is a [single] similar, while you boasted about thousand? You should lower your expectation. Produce just one that the muslims can see and hold and read and say; oh. this one met the challenge.


Allah says in the Quran that they will not believe even if angels were to [by His Power] ascend and descent in a visible ladder from earth extending to heaven. They will say, its all an illusion.


I am waiting for a christians to tell me who is the "The Prophet", that John or Jesus was not when each was asked it he was?

I just want to share this bit with the egyptian guy and people like him.

Surah Shua'ra [chapter 26]

26:191 And indeed, your Lord - He is the Exalted in Might, the Merciful.
26:192 And indeed, the Qur'an is the revelation of the Lord of the worlds.

26:193 The Trustworthy Spirit has brought it down; This Angel Gabriel being described her again. Even he has been call Holy Spirit in Surah Nahl [Chapter 16 verse 102 as as follows Say (O Muhammad) Rooh ul Qudus [Jibreel (Gabriel)] has brought it (the Qur'aan) down from your Lord with truth, that it may make firm and strengthen (the Faith of) those who believe, and as a guidance and glad tidings to those who have submitted (to Allaah as Muslims)" and further made clearer in Surah Baqarah [Chapter 2 verse 97 that Angel Gabreil brought Quran verses to Muhammad [as] by this many are now enemies of this Angel as Allah expresses it as follows; "Whoever is an enemy to Jibreel (Gabriel) (let him die in his fury), for indeed he has brought it (this Qur'aan) down to your heart"

26:194 Upon your heart, [O Muhammad] - that you may be of the warners - [one of the roles of a prophet is to warn. one of the roles of the another comforter prophesied by Jesus son of Mary is that the another comforter shall people of their wrong and give correction, other deeds he shall warn them against evil as he leads to the the truth, warns them against exaggeration of Jesus and present the accurate value of Jesus son of Mary, warns that people should not be extreme, excessive, etc or unappreciative, miserly, etc but correctly moderate, etc
26:195 In a clear Arabic language.

26:196 And indeed, it is [mentioned] in the scriptures of former peoples.:Remember that Moses said a prophet like him shall be raised up? Remember that they say the children shall lose out and the mantlr shall be passed to another people? we remember the Jewish scholars asked John if he was "The Prophet? Remember they asked Jesus son of Mary the same question? Remember neither of them say he was and both of them acknowledged that 'The Prophet" shall come later?

26:197 And has it not been a sign to them that it is recognized by the scholars of the Children of Israel?: for the above reasons and more they trooped in large numbers to become citizen of Madina. Madina was Yathrib then, thinking that in this city God will bless them that the prophet that will come out of her will be from their blood. Of course the world knows that Muhammad [as] came from that city.

26:198 And even if We had revealed it to one among the foreigners
26:199 And he had recited it to them [perfectly], they would [still] not have been believers in it.; Allah is powerful. Every prophet starts from his own home, his own neighborhood to his town, and then to his people. In the case of Muhammad [as] to the whole world he started from his home, his family, his clan, his city, his people the arabs because he went to Taif later before the isra wa Miraj. The Allah transported him to Madina, where there were Jews and arabs and others. It was there that Salman Al Farsi [ra] became muslim, traveling all over the world to get there. Allah says if He had even changed His way in this case choosing a non arab who suddenly begin to speak arab [a great miracle in itself], the disbelievers will be just as indifferent, not reading the essence of that eloquence, so a son of the soil is looked at with the same eyes as other prophets had been looked at by their own people.

26:200 Thus have We inserted disbelief into the hearts of the criminals.
26:201 They will not believe in it until they see the painful punishment.

Atikaf is spending any amount of time in the masjid, how ever long or short it is.

Every action begins with intention.

A woman is the anchor of the family.

If she goes to stay in the mosque, what happens to the more noble role in the family as a mother to nurture, etc?

You cant neglect the greater role and observe the smaller or not as great a role. a person who is not making salah does not have saum, because salah is the one to be checked first.

the role in the house, within the family will be greater for a muslima. even a muslim man will not go to hell [inchaAllah] for not making atikaf in the mosque.

the woman can go for a short time during the day assuming that the children and others roles are not forsaken for this. But to stay in masjid overnight, while the house is abandoned that can actually invite disasters, or leave the children without the nurturing quality of the mother, etc is unacceptable, since she can actually make all of her prayers, except Jumu'ah and Id prayers at home and she will have full rewards {inchaAllah].

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ good deal.

I hope everyone is fine in the family. May Allah accept all our efforts and cancel all our shortcomings. Amin.


Salaamualaykum wa Rahmatullah.

yes; in 3 instances.

1] a spouse lying to the other spouse so that their is peace and love instead of rancor and unhappiness

2] a friend lying to make peace between 2 feuding friends

3] a patriot lying to the enemy to avoid all out war so that human blood is not shed and resources are wasted on nothing more than human ego of i can kill you.

a young man illustrated a family scenario to show the type of lies allowed. please read it.


Tell if any of the above is a bad lie. one preserving happiness and continuance of love between spouses. another peace and continuance of friendship in a community. the last preventing of lives and actually preserving lives created by God not to be wasted.

[Quote]Was Mary A Sinner?

“And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Savior. For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name. And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation. He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts. He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree. He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away. He hath holpen (helped) his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy; As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever. And Mary abode with her about three months, and returned to her own house.” (Luke 1:46-56)

In the passage above we find Mary giving all the praise and glory to God because he regarded her low (humble )estate. Mary also rejoiced in God her Savior, and we know that only sinners need a Savior.

“As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:” (Romans 3:10)

“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23)[/Quote]Let examine Job against these verses. Tell is this Job a destroyer of these verses or these verses are destroyers of Job as classified as sinless, man of God?



[Quote]Mary also recognized the fact that the Lord was remembering the mercy that He had promised to Israel through Abraham and His seed (offspring).[/Quote]The older offspring who was the only offspring when God made the Pact with Abraham and participated in the symbolism of it with his fore skin removed like that of Abraham is 'cursed' the Bible says. But thank Allah that the curse is rendered ineffective on the innocent child.



[Quote]The Lord chose this humble Jewish virgin to bring forth Jesus into the world. He would bring redemption to both Jew and Gentile.[/Quote]Though he was only sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel? How are gentiles jews, even lost sheep among them?



[Quote]“But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.” (Galatians 4:4-6)[/Quote]I say the author of the Galatians is the another comforter because if he heard this, unless if not God, then he is glorifying Jesus, saying more than what said, new info, leading to all truth, teaching, etc. Can you agree with me because you have quoted this man liberally, and not a single quote from the holy ghost even after the tongue of fire, no one remembered a thing from him. Or is the ghost gearing you on to quote Paul, instead of him? You are amazing, frosbel.



[Quote]The Lord came into this world at just the right time[/Quote]The Lord came into this world? Why? He is not able to accomplish what He needs to accomplish remaining in heaven? Incidentally, no proof that Jesus was a known entity in heaven more that i was a known entity in heaven. In all the conversation held in heaven, as recorded by your Bible, no single word from Jesus, no single word from me and not a single word from holy spirit. This tells you that the Speaker, God was using We, Us, Our as even your Queen does use any for herself. The yoruba King can say Awa Kabiyesi. Yet there is only he. Yet he is not truly Kabiyesi, after all the real Kabiyesi is God Almight alone and without Him there is not Kabiyesi.



[Quote]The fact that Jesus would be born of a virgin was prophesied by Isaiah hundreds of years before the event actually happened!

“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.” (Isaiah 7:14)[/Quote]Moses birth was seen in a dream by a tyrant that this boy will destroy his tyranny. You know it happened? Read your Bible the reason the king order the male born to be killed.



[Quote]The word Immanuel (or Emmanuel) means God with us, and that testifies to the deity of Jesus Christ. Jesus would come forth from the womb of this Jewish virgin because Mary was overshadowed by the Holy Spirit. There were no human intimate relations between Mary and a man.[/Quote]If Immanuel is the indicator, Alhamdullah, no one called him this name which means he was not real that name. But then Ishmael means God hears us. Does that mean God is here physically to hear us in the person of Ishmael, who the Bible called all kinds of names, and made sarah even as bad as cruella daville in children make beliefs.



[Quote]“And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb. And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord; (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.” (Luke 2:21-24)[/Quote]Subhannah. He was not Immanuel after all. This tells me Isiah is wrong, or those who think Jesus is God are wrong or the Angels who named him Jesus was wrong. Or combination or all of the above?



[Quote]In the passage above, we are given further proof that Mary was a mere mortal like the rest of us.[/Quote]Mere mortal will produce mere mortal. Ant eggs without sperm produce a specific type of ants in the colony; the non reproductive ones; soldiers, workers. Incidentally Jesus never produce any offspring proving my point. Does God in heaven needs a child in heaven or on earth? Why?



[Quote] Mary observed the Jewish Law and she did exactly what that Law told her to do (see Leviticus 12:1-. Mary was unclean for seven days and on the eighth day she brought Jesus to be physically circumcised, in accordance with Leviticus 12:2-3. Mary then continued in her days of purification (33 days) because that was what was required of her under the Jewish law (Leviticus 12:4). Mary then brought forth the required sacrifices as is written in the following scripture:[/Quote]Noticed that this singe woman remained single in her duties, because there is no Joseph going to do these things along with her. Imagine circumcising God; God the father is genderless. God the Ghost we do not know, unless Frosbel will tell us his gender? Are they all circumcised or just son, Ms Mary's boy?



[Quote]“And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean.” (Leviticus 12:8 )

As recorded in Luke’s gospel account (Luke 2:24), Mary brought forth the offerings required in “the law of the Lord.” It is most important that you see that one of the offerings was for the burnt offering and the other one was for a SIN offering. To declare that the Jewish virgin Mary was conceived without sin is to dispute and contradict scripture. So we may rightly conclude, that according to scripture, Mary was in fact a sinner. I was raised as a Roman Catholic so I formerly observed the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. Roman Catholicism teaches that Mary herself was conceived without sin. In other words they teach that she, like Jesus, was born sinless. I turned away from that false teaching.[/Quote]After delivering christians' third God, she is still a sinner.[quote][/Quote]What is sinful in having a child especial in the one a god as ghost participated in? If it happens like that and it was a thing identifiable, the arrest should have been made for rape.

[Quote]Was Mary A Sinner?

“And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Savior. For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name. And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation. He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts. He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree. He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away. He hath holpen (helped) his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy; As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever. And Mary abode with her about three months, and returned to her own house.” (Luke 1:46-56)

In the passage above we find Mary giving all the praise and glory to God because he regarded her low (humble )estate. Mary also rejoiced in God her Savior, and we know that only sinners need a Savior.

“As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:” (Romans 3:10)

“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23)

Mary also recognized the fact that the Lord was remembering the mercy that He had promised to Israel through Abraham and His seed (offspring).

The Lord chose this humble Jewish virgin to bring forth Jesus into the world. He would bring redemption to both Jew and Gentile.

“But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.” (Galatians 4:4-6)

The Lord came into this world at just the right time. The fact that Jesus would be born of a virgin was prophesied by Isaiah hundreds of years before the event actually happened!

“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.” (Isaiah 7:14)

The word Immanuel (or Emmanuel) means God with us, and that testifies to the deity of Jesus Christ. Jesus would come forth from the womb of this Jewish virgin because Mary was overshadowed by the Holy Spirit. There were no human intimate relations between Mary and a man.

“And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb. And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord; (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.” (Luke 2:21-24)

In the passage above, we are given further proof that Mary was a mere mortal like the rest of us. Mary observed the Jewish Law and she did exactly what that Law told her to do (see Leviticus 12:1-. Mary was unclean for seven days and on the eighth day she brought Jesus to be physically circumcised, in accordance with Leviticus 12:2-3. Mary then continued in her days of purification (33 days) because that was what was required of her under the Jewish law (Leviticus 12:4). Mary then brought forth the required sacrifices as is written in the following scripture:

“And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean.” (Leviticus 12:8 )

As recorded in Luke’s gospel account (Luke 2:24), Mary brought forth the offerings required in “the law of the Lord.” It is most important that you see that one of the offerings was for the burnt offering and the other one was for a SIN offering. To declare that the Jewish virgin Mary was conceived without sin is to dispute and contradict scripture. So we may rightly conclude, that according to scripture, Mary was in fact a sinner. I was raised as a Roman Catholic so I formerly observed the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. Roman Catholicism teaches that Mary herself was conceived without sin. In other words they teach that she, like Jesus, was born sinless. I turned away from that false teaching.[/quote]

[QUote]Is Mary The Mother Of God?

It is obvious from the sections above that Mary cannot be described as the Mother of God, because that would make her deity or divine. Simply put God does not have a mother.[/Quote]But God must have a father, Yahweh, though it was the Ghost that over shadowed Mary who is not the mother of God, but the mother of Jesus, but Jesus is still God? What is the definition of Confusion if you know?



[Quote] The last time that we find Mary mentioned in the Bible is in the book of Acts:

“Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day’s journey. And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James. These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.” (Acts 1:12-14)

Mary is listed in the passage above alongside the other followers of Jesus Christ. Here we find Mary in prayer and supplication along with everyone else. There is not even a hint that she held a position above anyone else in that upper room, nor is there a hint that any of them were praying to her. In the passage below we find a situation where Mary and other family members were outside a room where [b]Jesus was preaching the word of God. [/b]Because of the large crowd they could not get inside:

“Then came to him his mother and his brethren, and could not come at him for the press. And it was told him by certain which said, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to see thee. And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.” (Luke 8:19-21)[/Quote]I read that Jesus prayed and supplicated to not himself but The real God in heaven. He advised his followers to do the same, always because by his own admission he is powerless and can do nothing. Anyone who prayer to Jesus is guilty of the same sin as anyone praying to Mary. Neither of them is God but creatures of God. This brings the verse in Surah Maida alive.



[Quote]What did Jesus do when he was told about this? When Jesus was told about this, he told them that his mother and brethren were those who were inside the room listening to him preach the word of God. Why did Jesus make such a statement? He did this because he was showing the people the difference between the natural family and the spiritual family. Yes, Mary was outside. Yes, she was the natural mother of Jesus, but Jesus was showing the people that the spiritual family is what really counts. Jesus showed no partiality even when it came right down to his natural family on this earth. Jesus did not exalt his own mother above anyone else and we should follow that example also.[/Quote]The child who disrespect the womb, what should happen to that child? Was Mary a greater sinner than the greatest of sinner in that room? If the answer is yes, how can Jesus be assumed not to be a sinner coming from her, and all the other things he did; overturning the table, killing the tree, drowning the pigs, lying about the status of the person who calls the other "fool", and others like pretending to be peace, a 'an other cheek turner' while in reality a bringer of sword and war and a 'family divider'.

@Frosbel: I dont know what to do with your state of illogicality; whether to just shout; you are a confused man or truly weep?
[Quote]Should My Focus Be On Mary Or Jesus Christ?

It is rather interesting that the Roman Catholic doctrine regarding Mary mimics actual truth regarding Jesus Christ. The Bible warns us about the “doctrines (teachings) of Devils (demons) that would enter the church in the last days, and the Catholic doctrines regarding Mary are absolutely included here. (1 Timothy 4:1) Satan is a great deceiver and his goal is to deceive your soul right into an eternal Hell!

The Roman Catholic teaching known as The Immaculate Conception (Mary being conceived without sin) is a DEMONIC IMITATION of the sinlessness of Jesus Christ. (2 Corinthians 5:21)

The Roman Catholic teaching of The Assumption (Mary was raised into heaven without dying) is a DEMONIC IMITATION of the actual ascension of Jesus Christ into heaven. (Luke 24:50-53, Acts 1:8-11)

The Roman Catholic teaching of Mary being the Queen of Heaven is a DEMONIC IMITATION of Jesus Christ being the King of Kings and Lord of Lords! (Deuteronomy 10:17, Psalm 136:3, 1 Timothy 6:15, Revelation 17:14, 19:16)

The Roman Catholic teaching of Mary as a mediator (mediatrix) is a DEMONIC IMITATION of Jesus Christ being the one and only mediator for mankind! (1 Timothy 2:5)

I do not apologize for telling you that those teachings are not of God at all. They are demonic in origin and they are meant to divert a persons attention away from the Lord Jesus Christ, who was the only sinless human being to walk this earth. Jesus was the only person who could possibly atone for the sin of the world and that is what he did when he shed his sinless blood upon the cross.[/Quote]Mother is bad, son is good. But in the case of Abraham, the son that open his manhood is bad, Abraham is good, the son that came after is good also.



[Quote]Peace has been made through the blood of the cross and a person can be reconciled back to God because of what Christ has done on the cross. (Colossians 2:14, 20, Romans 5:6-10) Jesus Christ rose from the dead and he ascended into heaven where he is reigning NOW as the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. (Revelation 17:14, 19:16) After he rose from the dead he told his disciples that ALL power has been given unto him in heaven and earth, and if that does not speak of power and authority then nothing does. (Matthew 28:18-20)[/Quote]When he was alive preaching as man god, satan told him "All powers have been given to me. So worship me and I will give you the whole world." And Jesus said nothing to that effect that satan was lying about having all powers. Who is lying here? You bible said that Jesus went to hell to fight death, not fighting satan, unless satan is death itself. But Jesus came back with victory over 'death' so that even the 12 disciples do not die, but have everlasting life. None of them is alive now. So what happened? The fight was a hoax, in vain and or ineffective? What is the difference between those who passed away before Jesus came to fight the very good [worthless fight] and the 12 disciples, never mind you who I am convinced will die, just I who do not believe in Jesus as you do will die?
Abraham and me are in the same position of belief.
Even Jesus does not believe differently from us.



[Quote]I cannot overemphasize the truth that there is absolutely no hope outside of the person of Jesus Christ. Eternal life is in the Son and Mary has absolutely nothing to do with the salvation of any soul. Satan will do anything that he can do to divert your attention away from the only one who can save your soul, and that is Jesus Christ. You can read my other article “Marian Apparitions: Divine Or Demonic?” or listen to the message on audio.

“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” (Romans 6:23[/Quote]If the bold is true along with the Roman 6; 23 verse, everyone who died before Jesus said all the powers are now given to him are in trouble. I love the fact that I am in the same trouble that John son of Zacharias, Zacharias, Solomon the wise, David the Goliath slayer, etc are in.



[Quote]“And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.” (1 John 5:11-12)

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.” (1 John 5:20)[/Quote]these two were not spoken by Jesus. Read it again unless you dont know how to read, by just copy and paste or just write without reading.

@ssjalo: follow his example[s] then;

dont ever marry.
disrespect your family because everyone is your family instead of your real one.
and volunteered to be killed by the angry mob/area boys. never mind he complained later.

Amin to the God having Mercy on me.

But where is the confusion, except that you simply laugh without saying anything?
People who laugh like that, the clinic ambulance comes for them with strait jacket in hand.

@Tpia@: « #66 on: Yesterday at 07:37:16 PM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 05:26:59 PM
@Tpia@: « #49 on: Today at 05:20:09 AM »Is Jesus the king of the Jews or not? Is he not the king that the christians yell 'every knee shall bow'? Is he not the king of kings as the christians say? if not on this earth, how many kings in heavens that Jesus is going to be their king?

i think you know how to read, sir. Find a bible, open it and stop waiting to be spoonfed answers.[/Quote]Nothing in the Bible. Its meant for people like you.



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anti Tpia@ e je jawo kuro ni nu apon tio yo.


if you're looking for the nler who goes by that moniker, you know where to find him or it.[/Quote]I wonder why you bear an id very similar to some other person? This is either a pretender bent on confusing people. Carry on your deceitful game.



@frosbel (m) « #67 on: Yesterday at 07:57:39 PM »

[Quote]^
stop arguing with these terrorist sympathizers.[/Quote]You no dey carry last. Today i am a terrorist sympathizer? Who is that terrorist? Carry go, jor. You are really a strange man. You cant help yourself from doing evil.

@Frosbel: #10 on: Today at 10:49:03 AM »

[Quote]^^

Not believing in a GOD must make you feel so superior and intelligent.

"For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God. As the Scriptures say, "He traps the wise in the snare of their own cleverness."- 1 Corinthians 3:19[/Quote]Behold the verse from another comforter because he heard and spoke what he heard. No? I am sure the fire tongue didn't say anything, you would have quoted what he said.



[Quote]Yet it is a known fact that there is a GOD and I am sorry to say , only Fools do not believe in a GOD.

"Psalm 14:1-3 The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."

You can live your life anyhow you like for now, but there is a day of reckoning . This you cannot avoid and just like many have realized, albeit too late, they have been deceived by the father of lies and damned for all eternity.

Do you realize that atheists have been singularly responsible for some of the most hideous crimes in the 20th century . Hitler and Stalin come to mind.
[/Quote]Though yours are three gods. god[s] is God is what you are saying? I hear you, Mr. Trinity worshiper.

[Quote]« #9 on: Today at 10:39:39 AM »

Quote from: LagosShia on Today at 10:31:25 AM
so why don't you just ignore me or just edit my posts by replacing mine with yours.All your arguments against me can be applied to you as well.

lol, good one, except my argument is nothing like yours. My argument is that your assertions that [b]mythology borrowed from [/b]proves the existence of a god you claim to be invicible and undetectable are hilarious, ignorant and pathetic. Now, you can go back to arguing about whose pile of rocks is the true god.
[/Quote]I thought this alien named guy was smarter than to pen the bold? Who was the first Jew? Some guy who was named Judah, a brother of Joseph, a son of Jacob who was called Israel.

Before these two; Jacob and Judah, we have isaac and his big brother Ishmael and then their father Abraham, with a new nephew of his, Lot living somewhere from them. This people were not jews because Abraham and Lot were from a city state called Ur back then in the country of Iraq, today. Egypt was a world power then. So was china and india and other well established nations.

Long before any of the above, we had a man named Noah. and much earlier than him was the first man; Adam and the first woman Eve, both husband and wife. The Quran says they were created by God as in commanded to their being in the sate of living. While the Jews say that these two were in the image of God, or at least Adam was, Quran says nothing of them is in God and nothing of God is in them. No jew said a word about what Muhammad [as] said on this matter. Although they, the disbelievers in each of their own ways threw mud[s] saying that someone was teaching him what he was saying, even though no one named anyone specifically, especially in Madina and at this time Muhammad [as] was not doing much traveling.

Allah defended His Messenger [as] by saying that even though this Quran is authentic Arabic? Fortunately at that time, there was no arabic translation of the Bible, so no one can accuse an illiterate man that he read a classic in his own language and was copying it. Allah is Akbar and when arabic Bible was penned, they had to use the Quranic Arabic as the basis of writing the Arabic Bible. So Martian, you need to know that human history, Only God Knows it 100% accurately. He revealed it accurately what He revealed to Muhammad [as] of the part of human history that is essential for our life journey. We cant say that if a man tell the story of Mango Park incorrectly, saying that the person is a she and black america from Houston, instead of a while European male, even if the incorrect story was written first, we can hold up high the correct book written later as the authentic material.

Early does not have to be better, always. No always.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ so its your father who left islam and journeyed to christianity and then to out of religion?

You and he should drop your islamic names.

If mom is still a muslim, based on her age, i believe she can do better by herself instead of hanging a disbelieving husband. If she is not a muslim, then its the sign of the time. Unfortunately poverty [its all relative] always have impact on the religiosity of a person, in almost as intense as as bad education without moral fibre.

^^^^^^^^^^You will be right if all take shahadah tain; Laa ila ha ilAllah, Muhammadanr rRasulullah [AS].

If all make daily salah. If all pay zakat and then sadaqah. If all make siam. If all make hajj and Umrah. You see the big difference[s] and I am not even finish?

The Laa ila ha IlAllah has at least 70 rungs. The lowest is similar to good acts as removing harmful things from the road so that no one is injured by it.

@Loveking: « #38 on: August 11, 2011, 09:38 PM »
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Imagine what Moses would say today if he was able to fly in an airplane and found out there was nobody behind the clouds lol.[/Quote]has mankind reached the end of the Cloud? Beyond the galaxies, etc? There will be the first layer of heaven, enveloping all that is under it. Then the second layer of heaven, then the third all the way to the seventh. between the next 2 layers is a distance not less than the distance from the earh to the first heaven.

After all of that, and beyond the 7th heaven is Arsh of Al Rahman, which makes all that is under it, 7th heaven look like a small finger ring drop in a vast desert; very small that it is insignificant. And Only AlRahman knows how far He is as He is above and beyond that. The brought the christian expression of "He got the whole worlds in His Hand". Though I am not a christian, the christians are by brothers and sisters in belief of the existence of God. Yet you people stuck in Lekki and whereever you may be have not imagined what if the roof of the house just drop on my head and make me the only pancake in the incidence, what shall i have as excuse if I finally realize that God exist?



[Quote]this is funny Grin

@sweetnecta

why do you still call your allah God? do you know how the word 'God' came about?[/Quote]I asked the question what about God inventing man, you cant even try to approach it, and you "haha" asked me the above question. I will answer you while you will be spineless to answer mine. It sat there for days and you are blind to it am sure, except that you saw a name attached to it. You picked the name but ignored the question which was more important to the thread.

I dont know an allah, but I do know Allah, Who I have dreamed about concerning my mother. Thank God my mother was not punished in the dream and in real life it turned out a success. I intentionally used God in the last sentence since you said why do I think Allah is God. Regardless of the origin of the word God, I realize that I am speaking to an english reading audience. In english God is meant to be the Creator. In Arabic Allah is the Name of the Creator. If I were writing yoruba people on Lekki I will use Oluwa instead of God. This is a short stick for you.



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Re: The Invention Of God By Man
« #39 on: Today at 11:09:16 AM »

^^ Na so they dont even understand the history of what they worship. Just read one book and got mind locked up. I pitty them.[quote][/Quote]I did not have to read a single book to know that I am insignificant and something is in control of my affairs. That something has regulated my life so much so that my body clock tells me to wind down from high energy level to less energy level enough that I know that I am lazy and feel heavy enough to want to laydown and drift to sleep. This happens as the night comes upon me daily. I want you to try to not sleep at night for 6 months and have a very light afternoon sleep, any at all. Then report to us how you are the master of your life. I am a muslim and I know that my God does not fall asleep like human who needs to sleep and rest.

Some Slick snake oil salesmen.

Naija got them. And a fool is born every minute. How about ever hour?

I though christian husbands dont beat their wives?

I must have been wrong.

@Joagbaje: O ga o.

@Mazaje; « #83 on: Today at 10:13:38 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 09:52:11 AM
@Mazaje; « #77 on: Today at 02:57:43 AM »Let me work my way up you. I am not your friend, because friend to call friend "Donkey". I only spoke about Obasanjo because at least he is true to his father's origin, unlike Babangida, an Ogbomosho Gbadamoshi who is suddenly a hausa from Minna. Further I used Obasanjo being a known Yoruba to you since you do not come "down south", If I tell you that I heard the same story from my grandmother, a princess whose blood is authentically Yoruba [ra]. I also heard if from a christian friend, who is deep in yoruba history. He heard it from his Ekitiparapo leader father.
Is it not interesting that 2 christians say the same thing about their Yoruba and Makka? One is Egba and the other is stubborn as a mule Ekiti. The Funanis in africa have the same origin by their variance of fulani language, though they may not look alike. And before DNA people used to communicate their blood origin by their oral history. Further, Oba of Lagos showed that Ifa has its origin in Pagan Makka. These are enough evidence.
finally, the hausas must have a word to mean God in their authentic language? I think they say Obangiji, similar to yorubas Oluwa and Igbos Chineke. Use Obangiji, instead and leave Allah alone for the Muslims or somebody sensible enough to acknowledge what it means. "I am serious' in Yoruba are many, 1] ooto. 2] Mio sere.
Find what they say in hausa apart from Wallahi. Hausa is a matured language, if you dont know.

You are not a Hausa man are you? [/b]Rhino.5dm who is a Hausa man has already given you a good explanation, Non Muslims living in the north all use wallahi as a word which means "am serious" ask any body that speaks the Hausa language and he will tell you that. . .Wallahi in the context of the Hausa language is very different from wallali in the Arabic language, do you get it? Languages evolve most times seems you are too dull to comprehend that fact. . . .[b]As for the Yoruba's descending from the Arabs, which notable historian told you that? Is Obansanjo a historian, which university did he get his History degree from? Stop your baseless bed time stories that belong to illiterates. . .If the Yoruba's descended from the Arabs, there will be DNA evidence to confirm it, no? Where is your DNA evidence to show that the Yoruba's descended for the Arabs. . . .[/Quote]I see your problem. Bad and very incomplete education which hampers your ability to reason out issues. Who do you tell the historians "History" but those who are eyewitnesses or were told by the eyewitnesses, or such a person who hears it from the who has been told. Yoruba know their own history, fake or real than any "Historian" who needs to hear it from them and he pens it and give it to you as history book.

Let me use the hausa tribe to illustrate the matter since you are familiar with that tribe and you are not with my tribe. Before the first "History Textbook" about the Hausa tribe, the hausa elders must have in authentic african tradition sit their young and tell them story about the hausas; their origins, their journeys, their successes, their not to much successes, all the way until the Textbook writer came and hear it from those willing to tell him.

Thats what Historians are; writers of what oral tribal person heard from previous generation said.

@Rhino.5dm; [Quote]@ sweetnecta
since you dont seems to understand my points then lemme put a little example for you.

abba= father in Arabic         abba=father in Hausa[/Quote]Baba also in Arabic. Baba in Yoruba. Abu in Arabic.



[Quote]jahili=illiterate in arabic      jahili= illiterate in Hausa [/Quote]Jahiliya is ignorance in Arabic as in Abu Sham [lana] is Abu Jahal [father of Ignorance]. Ummiyi is Illiterate in Arabic as in Muhammad [as] Ummiyi



[Quote]haram= forbidden in Arabic and equally forbidden in Hausa . . . . ."Boko haram" Shocked[/Quote]I'm not shocked, because you are actually behaving like a Jahil or a boko haram right about now, because Boko is Hausa for book, where Kitab is Book in Arab. Show me a boko in arabic. I dont wanna write shocked as you did just above.



[Quote]ummi=mother in arabic and mother in Hausa. . . . .I can tell you that Arabic is more[/Quote]Umm or its variance in Arabic.



[Quote]localized in Hausa than any Nigerian language. Take it or leave! I can go on and on to tell you this because i understand basic arabic myself.[/Quote]Libasun is used for spouses sleeping with each other. Guess what the Yoruba say. Rafah is raised up or elevated. Guess where Rafter comes from. Rafter is an english word for high up.



[Quote]Kaifa asubati?   in arabic while hause will say Barka da asubati?[/Quote]Kaifa is how. Barka is a word from Barack as in blessing. What is Asubati?  You mean dawn as in Salatul Subh?



[Quote]Magrib= evening in Arabic while hausa will say mangaruba or magrib. . .so pick another cos i know this better than you.[/Quote]No wonder a man said to me "Ya asimi or azimi?" I said to him what is he saying. he said I am saying how is your fast. I said what language is that he said hausa and it is almost arabic. I said to him Ya in arabic means "oh". Asimi is closer Silm which a variant of Salaam, or Islam. But how is your fasting or fast in arabic has to be Kaifa saum, but could not be Ya asimi.


You will not be able to read Quran, if you specialize in Hausa. How is your day any how?


Surah Naml Chapter 27 verse 59; Say, [O Muhammad], "Praise be to Allah , and peace upon His servants whom He has chosen. Is Allah better or what they associate with Him?"

@Rhino.5dm; « #80 on: Today at 09:41:52 AM »
[Quote]lemme clear some misconseption.
Wallahi is arabic word which has been localised by the Hausa linqua, in that hausa language history it self, is tied around arabic so much that you will be able to 'pick' arabic by mere speaking hausa. Bayajidda the son of king of Baghdad should quickly come to any historian mind. if you are very vast in hausa.[/Quote]Very impossible. Maybe local hausa arabic which is non existing while Yoruba spoken in Bahia, Brazil exists.



[Quote]Having said so, it is a common knowledge for any person in the north to be using the word even without knowing its meaning or believing in it. Infact the word Allah,Wallahi,Tallahi is known to be use by northern christains when conversating. To them its northing more than another way of showing how serious you are just as Mazaje rightly put it.[/Quote]Now that he knows how we in Islam feel, even you hate our God, you cant but acknowledge Him. Allah says this in Suratul Naml, or it Nahl; Ant or Bee. Allah says if they ask them [unconsciously], they will acknowledge Him as Creator, Sustainer, and yes the One {Mazaje the fake hausa warrior has used to affirm how serious he is].



[Quote]@ sweetnect
why do you like forcing your religion on people? And later you claim there is no compulsion in Isalam?[/Quote]Nothing I say showed that I am forcing him to be muslim. Telling him to drop Allah Who he does not acknowledge is not forcing him.

@Mazaje; « #77 on: Today at 02:57:43 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 02:45:27 AM
Wallahi is hausa? You are a man without honor. Pease take yourself to your boko haram neighbors and them take of your ignorance [I beg do it on my account o. But you can still do it a mindless person. Typical of atheists]. When did hausa people become arabs? Sick little puppy. Me a Yoruba man has more Arab blood than the hausas; read Obasanjo's boo about the origin of the yorubas before you open your mouth again.

As a yoruba man I will never swear by any of what the yoruba pagans swear by. We in Islam are pagans by your standard, yet our God is what you swore by. Beat yourself up because you will be honoring your silly mind by it.


Orishi rishi. If i were a man who will beat donkey, when i meet you, i will beat you senselessly.

You are funny. . .That's why we are all different people don't have to behave or act the same way as you. .  . .I said to me wallahi simply means am serious. . .That is just what it means to me. . .its a part of my Hausa language. . . .When I use the word wallahi it simply means am serious. That's what it means to me, what part of it do you not understand? cares about what the lying OBJ says about the origins of the Yoruba's. where is the DNA evidence he presented to show that the Yoruba's descended from the Arabs? Where is the DNA evidence?. . .You take the words of the lying OBJ serious because he says what sounds pleasing to your ears,no? Why don't you also believe the same OBJ that declares that the christian God is the only true God and that Jesus is his son?. . . .You are a time waster my friend. . .[/Quote]Let me work my way up you. I am not your friend, because friend to call friend "Donkey". I only spoke about Obasanjo because at least he is true to his father's origin, unlike Babangida, an Ogbomosho Gbadamoshi who is suddenly a hausa from Minna. Further I used Obasanjo being a known Yoruba to you since you do not come "down south", If I tell you that I heard the same story from my grandmother, a princess whose blood is authentically Yoruba [ra]. I also heard if from a christian friend, who is deep in yoruba history. He heard it from his Ekitiparapo leader father.
Is it not interesting that 2 christians say the same thing about their Yoruba and Makka? One is Egba and the other is stubborn as a mule Ekiti. The Funanis in africa have the same origin by their variance of fulani language, though they may not look alike. And before DNA people used to communicate their blood origin by their oral history. Further, Oba of Lagos showed that Ifa has its origin in Pagan Makka. These are enough evidence.
finally, the hausas must have a word to mean God in their authentic language? I think they say Obangiji, similar to yorubas Oluwa and Igbos Chineke. Use Obangiji, instead and leave Allah alone for the Muslims or somebody sensible enough to acknowledge what it means. "I am serious' in Yoruba are many, 1] ooto. 2] Mio sere.
Find what they say in hausa apart from Wallahi. Hausa is a matured language, if you dont know.

[Quote]« #75 on: Today at 02:32:56 AM »

Quote from: Sweetnecta on Yesterday at 10:48:24 PM
There is no Atheist in The Foxhole when the bullets are whistling by.
What is the bold except that The God's Name ALLAH is in it? And the Atheist says there is no God but he never saying His Name to affirm that he is speaking the Truth. How do you affirm His except better than this? The instinctive name of man is to acknowledge Him. And you have done so by the bold. This you must admit, even if you refuse to submit and or obey Him.

Wallahi to me is just part of my hausa language(am a Hausa man), back in the days I used to say Jesus Christ as past of my figure of expression not because I believe in Jesus but because its a part of my figure of speech. . .I take wallahi to mean am serious. . . .Thats all. . .I don't believe in your imaginary Allah which is nothing but the creation of ancient Arabic men. . .Cut your self a slack. . .The world does not revolve around Islam. over 80 percent of the world population does not believe in its mythical stories. . . .[/Quote]Wallahi is hausa? You are a man without honor. Pease take yourself to your boko haram neighbors and them take of your ignorance [I beg do it on my account o. But you can still do it a mindless person. Typical of atheists]. When did hausa people become arabs? Sick little puppy. Me a Yoruba man has more Arab blood than the hausas; read Obasanjo's boo about the origin of the yorubas before you open your mouth again.

As a yoruba man I will never swear by any of what the yoruba pagans swear by. We in Islam are pagans by your standard, yet our God is what you swore by. Beat yourself up because you will be honoring your silly mind by it.


Orishi rishi. If i were a man who will beat donkey, when i meet you, i will beat you senselessly.

@Frosbel; « on: Yesterday at 04:05:26 PM »
[Quote]The Myth:

Muhammad was a peaceful man who taught his followers to be the same. Muslims lived peacefully for centuries, fighting only in self-defense - and when it was necessary. True Muslims would never act aggressively.

The Truth:

Muhammad organized 65 military campaigns in the last ten years of his life and personally led 27 of them. The more power that he attained, the smaller the excuse needed to go to battle, until finally he began attacking tribes merely because they were not part of his growing empire.[/Quote]If we replace replace Muhammad [as] and Muslims and in some part replace them with Moses and children of israel, all we have to change are locations the numbers of years, and the lives lost will increase. Moses was ordained by God. Muhammad was ordained by God. God does not change His ways, but shows Mercy by Islam; When a single woman or man commits illegal sexual acts even without the intercourse, Jews stoned the offender to death, while Islam upon 4 witnesses and she/he does not dispute it [read up on the process], he/she is caned 100 lashes.

The conquest of Makka shows the Mercy of Allah versus the fury of Yahweh [Jesus was small Yahweh], whereas the punishment usually came from Yahweh immediately after the crime [the golden calf massacre of the children of israel and making them to go about for 40 years is a good example here]. But Allah says to the Makkans, you have 4 months to make up your mind, even after you have been defeated. You can become muslim and remain in Makka or you can leave and be pagan anywhere you want [Obasanjo writes in his book; so the pagan yorubas left Makka]. But cant remain in Makka as a non-muslim.

The rest of your story is too frosted with flaky fake. I cant be bothered reading from a man who says if he learnt that Jesus lied, he will quit christianity. here is an example of a lie, so you must quit christianity:

You will go to HellFire for calling anyone a fool.

Immediately; You are fool.

Alas! He is not in Hellfire.

is he a liar or not for saying one will be in hellfire then?

^^^^^^^^^^^
I didn't see Jesus name in the verse you quoted above. I am assuming that Hebrews is an OT and not a NT book? If it is NT, there is your answer; it is a statement from a verse put up by a zealot.

But Jesus is sent to the house of Israel, to direct the lost sheep among them to the not lost sheep, within the 12 houses of israel.

Are you an Israelite, Ndipe? You are not, there is your answer; you are not included as a lost or the not lost sheep.

If God of the Bible stopped Abraham, then He God should not do what He forbids man. We emulate God's example. Hence if He killed His only son, you should be able to slaughter your only son, just like that, too and i bet you the boy will cry out "my Ndipe, my Ndipe, wy ha thou forsaken me?", after he would have argued hard against you and i am sure if his mother is an oakland california girl, she will go angela davis on you. if she is a nigerian, you are done and they can stick a fork in you. If she is a white girl, you will be arrested and if she is asian, california will will be too small for you.

America will sure you visit the psychiatric ward as a patient.

@Frosbel: « on: Today at 04:08:28 PM »
[Quote]Timeline of Muhammad's Life (A.D)

570 - Born in Mecca[/Quote]There was a military invasion of Makka in the year of his birth, led by Abraha riding on Elephant[s]. There is a Surah titled "The Elephant" in the Quran about it, followed by Surah Quraish. Now detail the year that Aisha [ra] was born for us, with a landmark such as how old she was in 610 when revelation started and her father became a muslim. Or if she was born later that year when her parents go divorced that very year 610. Or how many years later was she born, even though her parents never were husband and wife and Abu Bakr [ra] did not have sex with any woman he was currently married to during sex. No one is currently married to an ex-wife during sex with an ex-wife.



[Quote]- Orphaned upon death of mother
595 - Marries Kadijah - older, wealthy widow
610 - Reports first revelations from angel at age of 40
619 - Protector uncle dies
622 - Emigrates from Mecca to Medina (the Hijra)
623 - Orders raids on Meccan caravans
624 - Battle of Badr (victory)
624 - Evicts Qaynuqa Jews from Medina
624 - Orders the assassination of Abu Afak
624 - Orders the assassination of Asma bint Marwan
624 - Orders the assassination of Ka'b al-Ashraf
625 - Battle of Uhud (defeat)
625 - Evicts Nadir Jews
627 - Battle of the Trench (victory)
627 - Massacre of the Qurayza Jews
628 - Signing of the Treaty of Hudaibiya with Mecca
628 - Destruction and subjugation of the Khaybar Jews
629 - Orders first raid into Christian lands at Muta (defeat)
630 - Conquers Mecca by surprise (along with other tribes)
631 - Leads second raid into Christian territory at Tabuk (no battle)
632 - Dies[/Quote]i see a lot of assassinations, as if Muhammad killed them for his own personal desire[s], whereas he left the woman who used to throw dirt and thorns in his way alone so much so that when the woman was sick, he went to see her wishing her well and saying that he missed her dirt and thorns a statement that was so profound on the woman that she reverted into Islam, right there, whereas Ali bin AbiTalib [ra] who will say that his kindness is junior to that of Muhammad [as] in the battlefield stopped short of killing a man who spat in his face as he was about to thrust the sword inside the man. I know about the story of Ali and the this about to die man because when the man became a muslim, he reported the story to the community that Ali told him that when you spat in my face I was in rage that killing you then will be personal, while before you spat it was for the sake of Allah.

Your Bible talks about you with very verse you hate; " You are like your father the devil [my Islamic spin; he is the one that is exciting you to lies] . . ". Was there a raid before The incident of Badr; Gazwatul Badr? No. If there were the muslims would have mastered raiding and Quran would not have told them about Badr as a fight that they were not wishing to fight and Allah has commanded it on them. They would not have been ill-prepared, yet they show resolve and tell the Madinan that this Battle is not ordained on you as Muslims but on us as makkans.

The massacre of the Jewish tribe, and the destruction and subjugation of another later and the raids of the christian as you call them, were not massacre or destruction, or subjugation or raid, because a people you are able to massacre without any resistance from them or anyone else, if you are a horrific military mind, you will wipe them of the face of the map as Moses and children of Israel in your Bible wiped of the Jebusites, the hittaties, the Canaanites, the people of the city of Jericho. That was massacre, destruction, and raid all roll up in one swoop, killing even the children and animals and cutting down the trees so that nothing of them remains. Alhamdulillah, the women were not killed, so were all non-combatants; young and old, male and female. Muhammad [as] married a jew from that tribe. She is our mother [ra] and throughout her life, even after the messenger died, she never had a bad thing to say about the messenger [as]. Muhammad [as] asked her one time what her people thought of him? She replied that her father and uncle knew he was the messenger expected to come and will appear in Madina. But they couldn't accept it when the messenger turns out to be a non Jew.

Let say something to you to illustrate my point; the other day, my lovely wife has a family member who needs a husband. So she said I should find a husband for her because they believe i will do a good job. When i told her that a yoruba friend will be perfect she said to me; my dear you are the only yoruba man we need to enter our family. no others. I asked her why and true to her sincere heart, she said we cant stand yorubas. I have to laugh this woman is crazy about me, so her entire family. The yorubas didnt invade and massacre her people. Yet as my wife she told me how they fee about yorubas, and she will not be as brutally honest as the Jewish wife of the messenger [as]. She knew the messenger [as] will not kill her and has no Jew from her tribe to vent his anger on since according to you they were all alreay "massacre". yet when we look at the two victories of foreign armies on the Jews where they were carried away in exiles, you will say it is because of the sins of the Children of Israel. But when Muhammad [as] defeated them for being enemies within, Muhammad is a murderer all of a sudden?

What will Jesus be by saying that he brought war, sword and not peace, so much so that he parable-d that those who resisted the kind should be brought before the king and be slaughtered [as i recall you christians say Jesus is the king? i know you will shy away from affirming it but say instead his kingdom is not of this world. But then he is king in a parable or the parables are selective, some about him and his ministry others not about him and his ministry at all?], and finally the peaceful man behaved like a warrior and ordered swords.



[Quote]"Muhammad is a narcissist, a craddle-robber, a mass murderer,
a terrorist, a misogynist, a lecher, a cult leader, a madman
a despoiler, a torturer, an assassin and a looter."
[b]Former Muslim Ali Sina offered $50,000 to anyone[/b]
who could prove otherwise based on Islamic texts.
The reward has gone unclaimed.[/Quote]Ali Sina lives in Canada. I blogged with him that we should appoint a mutual escrow agent. We will put up 50,000 USD each and if we win, he loses the funds and returns to Islam, if he wins he has addition 50,000 USD to use for his mission. He wrote me personally that his money will remain in "my pocket" as he puts it. Ali Sina is an Iranian probably angry with Iran and Islam and Muhammad [as] have to pay. He should change his name "Ali" because since he is not an arab, he cant claim this heritage, except through Islam, Ali clearly is a Muslim name.

Ali Sina is a little boy, spoiled by his parents over educating him in guess where "england', without giving him a thorough home training. If I were named Ogunleye for example and I revert into Islam, the name will be gone in just the moment I am no more an ogun worshiper. If it is my family name I will adopt other name and good ridden to bad thing.

There is no Atheist in The Foxhole when the bullets are whistling by.

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Quote from: Rhino.5dm on Today at 12:26:37 PM
Mazaaajeeeee! Alarji sai da "zafin kundun duri", as a cold blooded animal, i need am well well ooo Cheesy

Mazaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. . .Sai da gidan dadi. . . .Gidan dadiiiiiiiii. . . . .Mazaaaaaaaaaaaa. . . .ka san sai da jan laushi da dumi dumi ai mazaaaaaaa. . . .A chi gaba. . . .Sai gidan dadi wallahi. . .[/Quote]What is the bold except that The God's Name ALLAH is in it? And the Atheist says there is no God but he never saying His Name to affirm that he is speaking the Truth. How do you affirm His except better than this? The instinctive name of man is to acknowledge Him. And you have done so by the bold. This you must admit, even if you refuse to submit and or obey Him.

@Alethea; Can spirit not mean Angel?

Can spirit not mean Prophet sent by God?

Can spirit only mean 3rd in your Trinity God concept?

@Alethea; Now give me the name of your Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost as you will give me the name of son God as Jesus and for his Title Messiah.

If you cant give me like that know that you have been worshiping Angel Gabriel all along as if worship Jesus is not bad enough.