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Congrats Trouble Helmsley . Go and make friends with Tinkerbell Hilton (Paris Hilton's dog). At least you can afford to wear designer dog clothes and jewelries together with her.

One source you can use to determine your choice is:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/good_university_guide/article671847.ece

ganusi:
I am a student in the UK and applied for my wife and kids visit visa, which was refused in Dec. 2006. I lodged an appeal and just got the decision on July 17, 2007 that " the appeal was allowed"? Does any one know what should I do next to get my family with me? Is the ECO or the local UK, HC will call my family to issue them visa or should they apply again with the passports? I also have a new addition in my family, can I apply for my new born baby who is now 6 months old at the same time !!!! Please advise ASAP, any help will be highly appreciated.

Thanks and best regards,

The HC will call your family and request for their passports to issue the visas. They do not need to apply or pay visa fees again. However, they could drop off copies of the determination at the HC gate and they may be called quicker than normal. For you new born baby, I would suggest that you get the visa for your wife and other kids issued first and then apply immediately afterwards for the baby.

This thread like all its 'brothers' and 'sisters' with similar lines of discussions/argument seem to be appearing in nairaland and changing its title like a chameleon changes its colour (Trade identity to foreign land, Diasporans pack shit, internet war fight - NINs vs NIDs, loose your Nigerian nationality, e.t.c.). I am rather certain that I cannot continue to engage in them except they are well conceived, rational and makes sense to me  As for me, if you are not satisfied with your work or living overseas, go home. if you are not satisfied with same in Nigeria, change base! Life is not too complicated. Hundreds of thousands of British nationals live in foreign countries such as Australia, New Zealand, Spain, Canada, e.t.c and continue to move there everyday. So what the fuss about living in another country?

Take a look at these:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6161705.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6210358.stm.

See Diaspora definition:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora

tkb417:
yeahhhhhhhhh i have missed. so a war has begun and they didnt tell me.
all u american ninjas and the Uk commandos ure looking for trouble oo.

and fyi, we don't need your western union again because soludo has promised to make our naira as attractive as your dollar. and for all ths shit packers, its high time u returned or else,
let me get some more ammunition before i start this gorrilla warfare

You are late! The war ended on Aug 21st and all Soldiers have returned to base. 

omoge:
Tats, well said.

Thanks Omoge.

mamaput:
Well going by the age, i was under the impression most people are still in school or studying

Not at all. There are many people on this forum that are working. Some others are schooling (undergraduate and post graduate) and working at the same time if it is possible and convenient.

Its easy to say "why not brush over the thread and not bother about it".

Certainly, we are all in Nairaland to discuss and learn things. It does appear to me that the experience is having no impact on some of us in anyway.

See the title of this thread:

Re: Abroad? What Do You Do There? Lets See What The Loud Mouths On Nland Do Abroad.

And you expect it not to generate any controversy. I guess you have seen the extensive debates on other threads regarding the perception of the type of work done by Diasporans. It could do the poster no harm by casually asking people abroad what they do rather than including insulting phrases, or posting such comments as "I have taken a general look and found out that the so called Diasporic Nigerians make so much noise.

The police force is grossly underfunded and policemen are underpaid. If they were well paid, most of them will not be corrupt. No man will want to compromise his dignity for a penny unless forced to as a result of difficulties in earning a living. Most policemen are demotivated by their salaries and the compensation that have seen paid to families of their colleagues when they loose their lives in active service. They are also ill-equipped and not properly trained to tackle crime in the society. Some policemen earn as little as N12k. Even the little funds that are allocated to them get pocketed by the top brass in the Police. Unless these issues are addressed, there will be no improvements in the police force.

@Poster,
It is a correct statement.

You do not need a visa to travel to Trinidad with a Ghanaian passport. However, you need a visa with a Nigerian passport. Read this carefully:

http://www.immigration.gov.tt/applicationloader.asp?app=articles&id=694

@Funkybaby,
What happened to this thread? Am I invited or is it strictly a group of people?

Paw-Paw:
I can't wait for you to back-off. Carry go ja re.
Shango is the only one making sense and telling it like it is. For your information, Shango lives in America so have first hand knowledge of the menial jobs Nigerians are renowned for. Am a living proof you can be wealthy without going abroad to do shit. If you're frustrated with your job, pack it up and return to Nigeria. Shebi na we force you go America go do that job. We will continue to expose the job you people do, to warn young people of what to expect.

If Shango's circle of friends in America are the ones that do menial jobs, then good for him. Let him change his circle of friends to those that are professionals and business owners.

Are you the only wealthy person in Nigeria? Has anyone said that there are no wealthy people in Nigeria? Some NIDs do not need 50 members of staff to make the kind of money you claim to make. They make it all alone without flaunting it! Now tell me, do you compensate your staff well or pocket all the money you make from your supposed business?

babasin:
thats about 56,000$ per annum.

Then its is foolish to run away abroad.

You know what, not many people earn that abroad, plus they pay about 30% tax.

Earning $56,000 in Nigeria in a professional job means that there is the potential to earn near double that amount in similar jobs overseas. It does happen! Note that such an individual in Nigeria definitely has several years experience.

igbonla:
$56,000 is peanuts my friend! I don't know what profession you are in but you can research what consultant corrosion engineers earn and let me know; this is not an entry level position.

There is no need for argument over what somebody is leaving behind when relocating, as there are other considerations for such decision. Believe me, I will take lower pay to be closer home if I have the opportunity.

I can not over emphasise that people relocate for different reasons.

You are welcome. I think you've made the right decision.

shango:
And rereading the first couple of pages in the thread I posted about Nigerian Citizenship thread, it hit me how elitist Nigerians in Diaspora really are. There are people in Nigeria 100 times smarter than me, that choose to stay in Nigeria and struggle through living daily life in Naija. It seems most people that find their way to the West, have a "better than thou" attitude like somehow being in the West puts you at an advantage or makes you smarter than your brethren still in the motherland. Again I will argue it requires more smarts and strength of character to carve out a living in Nigeria and some may argue coming to the West is actually taking the easy way out (some not I though). You guys like me here in the States or other Western countries, please, stop the looking down of those back home. They are not stupid or lesser than us and you are not a genius or smart alek for finding your way to the West. Even Mexican Laborers with no education can make it to the USA and carve a living and make enough money to get a lease on that Benz or Audi that you snap pictures of and send back home to give the illusion that you are living it up in the states.

Where in the various posts on this thread have you seen where a NID categorically mentioned that He or She is better that the NINs? Dont create what is not existing. This thread is all about yabbing our various means of livelihood irrespective of where we live and most of these career presumptions are not true anyway. This is purely an internet affair and most of us (both NINs and NIDs) would be suprised if we met each other or knew what we did for a living.

For your information, many of us have also worked in Nigeria and know the challenges of living and working in both environments. Life is not without its challenges. Nobody is claiming to be a smart alec here or posing. We are just discussing the social conditions of where live.

Goodnight all.
Got to go sleep and go to church in the morning so that I can pray for God's blessings for all Nairaland members, Rosco, Paw-paw, Nigeria and myself. Its been nice chatting with you also.

Rosco can not even pass a simple UK job interview for sh*t packing. Here is how he will answer the questions

Uk Interviewer: Why do you want to work for us?
Rosco: Because my brothers and sisters from Nigeria dey work for you.
Uk Interviewer: Tell me about a difficult challenge you faced in your last job?
Rosco: Na for latrine I been dey pack sh*t so that one was a serious challenge. But for here, e go easy pass to pack shit.
Uk Interviewer: How well do you work in a team?
Rosco: Well, I dey huzzle well well to ensure say na only me pack all the sh*t so that I go make more pay.
Uk interviewer: We will be getting back to you soon!
** Interview ends. Rosco receives a phone call and hears that he lost the job **
** Rosco says: oh SH*T **

toshmann:
now that rosco has been humbled into requesting application for upgrading, i think we should realise that he is still a brother and mellow down for am.
people make una go church 2mrw o

Abi o.

PTH:
poor paw paw. . . . the psychological consequences of a visa refusal are indeed enormous.

Thats why the constant thing you hear from him is that whites are racists!

Paw-Paw:
If you have not been living on the moon for the past 50yrs, you would have known most middle class Nigerians have a generator.

So u have become middle class?

Paw-Paw:
Who care weather una live for UK, US or Youtube? Carry go jare, and stop this pompous behaviur. Location does not make a success. Once a fool always a fool, even if you go to the moon.

Neither does location make a failure.

babyosisi:
don't mind all this his gidi gidi gbam gbam.
In his sleep[b] he'll be catching and frying the pigeons[/b] in trafalgar square.
The boy needs help!

He has already killed dem all in his sleep.

Chav picture is courtesy of wikipedia

Rosco na undecided NIN.

We dont want no more chavs in the UK.

Roscodaddy:
Dem dey enter plane go even Kano sef,when I mean abroad I mean betta place nor be where suffus dey live them go take dey pose say them dey abroad,abeg Yankee na the real place oh,make una kill me if una wan kill me UK nor follow for NIDs.Na today we don see plenty UK peeps ow them be,shi shi nor gum them.

U no fit succeed in dividing us. we don pass dat your level of thinking.

Roscodaddy:
Chineke,na because I say Uk nor be abroad na im dey wan kill my papa wey don die long time ago,UK visa na like moi moi na,all you nid 2 do na work 4 bank or fit pay like 1k pounds are school fees or infact no pay,them dey give visa like pure water,abeg all those NIDs wey dey for yankee na im I get time for,nor be UK wey dey for back yard here.Abeg ,Make I hear word

So your DREAM na to go yankee?
You wan take style make friends for there through Nairaland so that dem go send you invitation letter. Fa fa fa Fowl!

omoge:
nope, he doesn't know the difference  

Maybe he is a Chav

Roscodaddy:
When we talk about NIDs,we do not expect people in the UK to join this group because we nor dey see the difference at all,if na US we gree and I dey try to enlist the services of my fellow brodas in the middle east but maybe them dey sleep,anyhow UK nor be abroad oh.

As cheap as u make the UK sound, you can't even gain entry to the country  

Paw-Paw:
@I-manIs this a joke?
Do you know the number of Nigerians that come every year to look for a wife in Nigeria? Are there no women where you live?

Do u know the number of NINs that advertise themselves on the internet to all and sundry irrespective of which continent they live?

Berth a US military ship in Tincan Port requesting for Iraq/Afghanistan war volunteers and see how many NINs wil jump on it!  . Dont kill me for this one o!

ziddy:
nigeria is finding it difficult to move forward, because of people like you.

Yoruba's have a saying: a porter who eats bread is unknowingly eating his own scalp. Enjoy the diaspora!  

This is hilarious! NINs say we are of no consequence to Naija and yet a NIN is saying that NIDs are the ones dragging Naija backward. How are the NIDs doing that? It simply means that we still have great influence over naija!  

Bhola:
This is so funny, I had to sign in.

Anybody that takes this too serious, is definitely a NIN. NIDs have a huge sense of humor.

PTH aka King David, you too much.

Tats, wow is all I can say. If I might ask, what's your email address, if you don't mind.

Debosky, mehn, you gat this on the lock down.

Babyosisi, nice update.

Who else in the NID camp I miss? You all are doing a great job, keeping us informed.

Don't hesitate to let us(NIDs) know if we need to contribute our "shit" allowance to the group. You know, God loves a cheerful giver.

Carry go o jare. This is three funny.

Thanks for the post. My email add is on my profile.