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MaxInDHouse:
Luke 9:62

Luke 15

MaxInDHouse:
We also have no issue with the father because His house is in order it's the child's decision to leave and it's the child's decision to return the father only played a little part to welcome him back.
So have any of the exjws out there making noise told you they're willing to return?

Great you have no issue with the father because he never stopped loving his son. Same with the shepherd who went after his lost sheep. Just because someone leave our church, we do not stop treating the person with love and respect.

MaxInDHouse:
According to that parable the prodigal son can't find a place like his father's house just as exjws can't find a performing group like JWs but unlike the wicked woman who killed herself and people he was wise he returned home to BEG his father!

I have no issue with the prodigal son now, I am looking at the example of his father. Even when he was yet to realize his error, when he had plenty of money to blow, the father continued to love him. It was his decision to leave the father's house and even before he could say "I am sorry," his father was already kissing him.

MaxInDHouse:
The lost sheep knew it is lost so the prodigal son realized that he needs to go back home, shey?
Did disfellowshiped ones tell you they're willing to return?

The father immediately ran to meet his son even before the boy asked for forgiveness. They bible never taught that they should no longer be loved even when they don't realize they need to go home. The father of the prodigal did not stop loving his son even when the boy was yet to realize his error.
We are not taught to love only those who realize their erors.

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=117055233]It's not my church that wrote Romans 16:17 & 2John 10-11 so if you want to know the truth about practical application of God's word there is no crime asking! Yes it obviously wasn't your church that God commanded to love all men.

Jesus sent us to the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} so this is what you should have asked from the onset.

There are four points to note in that phrase:
[b]*LOST
*SHEEP
*HOUSE
No, you did not read the parable. The Parable was about the lost sheep and not the lost sheep of the house of Isreal

*ISRAEL
A person is said to be lost when he/she can't find his/her way.
Sheep is the most obedient of all domestic pets.
House connotes abode or shelter.
Israel means faithful people.
So a lost sheep of the house of Israel means a faithful person who is seeking the gathering of Holy ones so as to be obedient to whatever God commanded them as part of God's family.[/b]

Israel was not even mentioned in the entire book of Luke 15 A lost sheep does not mean a faithful person who is seeking the gathering of Holy ones. Was Saul later Paul a lost sheep or not? Just to make sure that people like you don't twist the meaning of a lost sheep, the Saviour in the same chapter told the story of the prodigal son.

If the father was a JW member, he wouldn't have run to hug his boy.
If you read the scriptures you would learn that a lost sheep is one that has gone astray from the fold of Christ. His sheep are members of his fold and he seeks them even when they are lost.

robosky02:
Super eagles on the move again

We would lose to the better team

MaxInDHouse:
We are all sinners, the only difference between the two thieves executed beside Jesus is that one was repentant while the other wasn't.
If things are to go the way you're thinking Jesus supposed to promise both of them paradise but he only promised one not the two!

You clearly don't understand my thinking. So let me explain. The bible says, God loved the world. He loves everyone including the sinner. Now we are commanded to love all men. These includes your formal members. I am not against punishing sinful members or disfellowshiping them as the verses you quoted preach. But when your church stops showing love to God's children just because they no longer worship with you, it is not of God.
Again, when your church starts telling you who to love and who not to love it's clear they are indoctrinating you.
Let me ask you, who do you understand the parable of the lost sheep?

Janosky:
Because you practice the love Jesus preached , you will join your neighbors to beat up the thief you caught inside your room.

Oga,hate the sin and take action,1 Corinthians 5:11-13.

I do not beat thieves, what is your point? Read Luke 15

robinso01:
And u expect them not to dey misbehave sometimes

Yes, we expect them not to misbehave. We expect them not to shoot innocent Nigerians and not to extort money from the citizens. They are not the only Nigerians with poor working conditions. If everyone becomes a monster because his working conditions are poor, this world would be uncomfortable for us all.

Janosky:
John 17:12, did Jesus Christ love the son of perdition?
According to you,"we are commanded you love everyone".
Would the faithful disciples love that "son of perdition"

When you catch thief inside your house you go beat am and join your neighbors beat am because "we are commanded to love everyone".

Oga, reason on the scriptures before you say what you don't know.

Yes he did. He taught us to love our enemies. I am sure he practiced what he preached.

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=117049010]Jesus is the man called CHRIST and he spoke in his mother tongue (Hebrew language) which his first century followers heard and understood perfectly so whoever wants to be a follower of this same man today must first do so in line with what his first century Jewish disciples practiced which was penned down in an inspired book known as ACT of APOSTLES!

Many Hebrew speakers did not believe in Christ. We do not become born again because of our knowledge of Hebrew.


According to God's word [b]LOVE does not rejoice over unrighteousness {1Corinthians 13:6} that's why the God whose predominant quality is LOVE said those turning away their hears from his laws their prayers will become abominable to Him {Proverbs 28:9} He warned His prophet never to pray in behalf of such unrepentant wrongdoers {Jeremiah 11:14} and His only begotten Son did the same by praying only for those that agreed with what God told him {John 17:8} he refused to pray with those who aren't interested in God's word {John 17:9} so if you think you understand what God define as LOVE more than all these people then i'm sorry for you! [/b]
You still cannot define love. True, love does not rejoice in evil, so what is love? Are we to love the unrighteous or not?

Of course they are a million times born again than the 21st century Christians because:
(1) Most of them saw Jesus Christ face to face, heard him teach, believe his teachings, were intimidated, humiliated, persecuted and executed just because they stick to his teachings!
(2) They're the first fruit to be born by God's Holy Spirit which no man can doubt or deny unlike today that there's confusion and contradictions over who is really spirit anointed.
(3) They were the ones God inspired to pen down all the things Christ preached and taught just as Jesus promised them! John 16:12-13
(4) Their names has been written in bold print in the heavens without any contradictions! Revelations 21:12-14
I am happy you know.

Whoever contradict what those first century Jewish disciples of Jesus said has nothing to do with Jesus because we are to believe him and practice what he taught based on what they penned down {John 17:20} Jesus declared that whatsoever the first century Jewish Christians bind on earth has been bound in heaven and whatsoever they loosen on earth has also been loosened in heaven! Matthew 16:19

Whoever contradicts what Jesus Christ said has nothing to do with Jesus. If you are required to love all men, you don't stop loving a man for not coming to your church.
[b]So stop deceiving yourself they knew a million times about the Christ and his righteousness more than anyone living today! [/b]No bible verse told you this, You just made it up. It's the very same spirit. They did not have a greater spirit than we do. God is not partial. You do not need to be a first-century Christian to know God. That's false teaching. The children of God in all centuries were given the very same spirit.

MaxInDHouse:
So the first century followers of Christ who are confirmed BORN AGAIN and said what i quoted don't love people shey?

I just pointed to what Christ said to show you that you don't understand what the world of God says.
We are commanded to love everyone even our enemies. Please can you define love to the best of your understanding?
And nothing makes the first century Christians more born again that the 21st century Christians

FreeStuffsNG:
The endorsement is their rights and reflects the sophistication and culture of the Yoruba. You are allowed to express your different political views. It is just the reality that this endorsement has no electoral value.

In fact, nobody in that room believes that they can run to town with that endorsement and get votes among the Yoruba but it is conceded to them to express their different political view.

Not even in Lagos where the press conference held of Ijebu Igbo the ancestral home of Pa Adebanjo, will lp get votes of Yoruba on the account of that press briefing. It is an exercise in futility. Even Chief Sonibare who was present there is a factional chairman of SDP and will never ask his folks to ignore SDP to vote lp.
The Yoruba votes is locked down for Asiwaju and as at today, nothing has moved a needle to change the mind of majority of Yoruba to vote for Asiwaju Tinubu.

4 zones are locked down for Asiwaju; NW, SW, NE and NC. The PDP will get SE as usual while SS will be shared between PDP and APC. There is no space for a mushroom party backed by unpatriotic elements.
check my signature for free stuffs!

Have you noticed that all those who believe the APC would win in the north are not from the north and do not live there. These people do not know the current political disposition of the north.
You would hardly see any northerner or anyone based in the north that believes APC has a chance in any core northern state.
I say this as someone that has a business in Bungudu and that constantly travels across the country.

DaddyRochie1642:
A foolish move by a foolish cleaner, it's very good to be professional in dealing with things like this, you did not evening set boundaries from the beginning, infact you did nothing, now you see why setting boundaries from the beginning is very good and effective, if he had set boundaries, they woman wouldn't have dared to cross it in the first place knowing fully well the repercussions for such an act.

To slap that cleaner dey hungry me,

So common Sense didn't tell her that the man is being nice to her, she didn't appreciate the fact that she has a good, understanding and supportive employer, or does she think that such employers are easy to come by.

So someone who offers you a service has no right to love you? I don't see any sense in that. People fall in love with their physical trainers, their doctors, their pastors, their bankers etc. There is no professional code against loving someone you render services to.

MaxInDHouse:
WORKERS OF LAWLESSNESS! Matthew 7:23

Oya interpret what is written in God's word at Romans 16:17, 1Corinthians 5:12-13 & 2John 10-11 nah!

Sorry I never got to answer your question. I had issues with my Nairaland account and when the issue was solved I forgot to reply.
Jesus Christ had always warned us to flee away from unrighteousness. But in Luke 15, he taught us about the lost coin, Lost sheep, and prodigal son.
The lost coin, lost sheep, and prodigal son are the very same people you guys cut off and seize to reach out to. These lost ones are the very people Christ is looking for. He never stopped loving them and neither should you.
Now to the verses your quoted, remember in Psalms we are taught not to walk in the counsel of the wicked. But the Savior never taught that we cease communication. He only spoke of disfellowshiping. The aspect where you no longer speak is not of the Lord but the additions of your church.
In misunderstanding the scriptures, you have forgotten that you have a duty to love all men. Nothing surpasses the commandment to love.
Our love for others is not a favor we are according them but a debt we owe them. When you refuse to love your formal members, you break God's greatest commandment.

garfield1:
In abia,obi will win the state state.so who gets 25% between the two old men? Ikpeazu and his camp are with wike so atiku is on his own but the emenike camp and ouk are with tinubu.they dominate abia north and parts of central.tinubu should outscore atiku here...
Ebonyi,same win for obi.with pdp in the state divided between ogba and odi camps,it is one way for apc.umahi is also on the ballot.atiku will take third here.
Enugu:no need,apc is too weak here.tinubu will struggle to see 10%.
IMO:with obi winning and pdp divided into ihedioha and anyanwu camps.anyanwu is with wike and the remaining pdp senator onyewuchi has left.hope will deal heavily with pdp,he has started dealing with them.third place for atiku here.
Anambra; obi will win all polling units here.atiku and tinubu won't get anything here.

Delta:with obi pushing,pdp might win narrowly.but apc should take central and good votes in delta south.
Edo:obi should win here but with pdp divided here and apc united,tinubu will come second.
Akwa ibom:atiku will win here but both labour and apc will get 25%.
Crs;with the way things are,labour will win,apc second,pdp third
Bayelsa;pdp will win narrowly with apc coming a close second
Rivers: obi will win here but with wike out,atiku is stranded.with asari dokubo working for tinubu in Kalahari and Abe in ogoni,tinubu will take second.some amechi men will still work for tinubu..
Benue; obi wins here.wit anger against fulanis,atiku will take third.
In plateau,both parties are equally matched with obi holding a little advantage and with pdp divided between jang who is pro wike and gen useni,third place is sure.
Nasarawa:same like plateau.
Kogi:tinubu will win narrowly here,atiku second.
Niger;another narrow tinubu win with nothing for obi..
Kwara; both atiku and obi will struggle for third.



Mynd44
Lalasticlala
Ityp
Majole
Su50
Silver tongue
Kyase
Aiel123

So you just pick your phone and type anything that comes to your mind. Have you ever been to any of the states you talk about?

LeoDeKing:
Saharareporters fabricated news that Buhari called for sack of Keyamo as Tinubu's campaign spokesman. Surprisingly, zombidients started jubilating and some of them were already going for thanksgiving for prayers answered.

But when Keyamo tweeted that it was fake news, zombidients took on him that he must pack his bag and go. My question now is; is it that Keyamo is hitting them at the right place? Why are they praying for his sack as Tinubu’s campaign spokesman if he is not really dealing with them?

Keyamo is Tinubu's campaign spokesman and no amount of fake news can change that. He will deal with you properly. It is not your duties to appoint anyone for Tinubu's campaign. Infact, this fake news proves Keyamo is doing his job excellently. Has any Tinubu's supporters ever called for the sack of Charles Oputa as the highest personality of pandora hoebi's campaign?

Omenka, seunmsg, BATified2023, abeg make una help me laff.

You are always creating threads out of nothing.

OLAADEGBU:
Source

99% of Igbo's do not know or care about the Adekunle guy. Can't you guys move on?

Trinitycian:
Keep fooling yourselves. Only few Igbos here are rooting for Obi. I have been engaging residents since I arrived KD in different parts, Including Southern Kaduna. Check My previous threads.

So far, all the people that picked Obi are Igbos.

Clearly you are an Atiku supporter. You are saying what we expect you to say.
Tinubu supporters claim he would win Kaduna and Obi supporters say the same about their candidate. Everyone to their own propoganda.

Troublemaker111:
Ni oju e abi Let meet at the poll

Why is it that all those who believe Tinubu would win on the north are not from the north?

VictorDivine:
They are simply attention seekers.

All celebrities seek attention. Attention is equal to money.

PandoraObi:
One million? Hehehehehehehehehe compare 70,000 people in Prague with your Igbo 10 billion people

Oga do your own 1 million march na. No dey put eyes for another person waka. Meanwhile, on Saturday, Igbos would come out for another 1 million match in front of Tinubus house.

Bakinwuta:
People still don't understand some actions and it's placement when in comes to state politics.

Plateau is one state with religious intolerance high in it's daily life. While some people support an individual the other near half the population will be against regardless.

Plateau is like a case of "word & Opposite" such that if one side like's something the other half will always be against it . That's how they are now and that's how people will be led to vote based on it.

In Plateau Christians always vote there own and Muslims there own. Nothing new in that state will change due to the string religious and tribal intolerance. Expecting anything different is just being naive.

Simon Lalong is a Christian and he had the votes of most Christians in the last election. Have you been to Plateau at all?

LocalStandard1:
Baba there are at least 30% Christians in the areas you relaid your fears. Calm down and do your part.

We are doing our part my brother.

LocalStandard1:
In a free and fair elections.

Atiku might get the most votes here with about 35%.

Peter Obi is getting more and more popular, especially among the Christian Southern Kaduna indigenes so 30% or even more as time goes on.

Tinubu, Oh well! Based on party affiliations he might get 20% or less.

Kwankwaso, if he contests, is getting 10% or less.

The other 5% goes to others like SDP and co.

To clarify. Patrick Yakowa (the late, only Christian Governor of KD) share same tribe as I, (Kagoma or Gwong). If you want to know the meaning of his tribal name just ask me.

And the current Labour Party Governorship candidate is the former SOKAPU (Southern Kaduna Union) president. That should tell you a lot now. The people are more Hungry to vote than ever before, at least I know who my large extended family are voting!


My opinion after my observations though.

My fear is, can Peter Obi get up to 30% in Niger, Gombe, Taraba, and even Adamawa? If he can get 25% in these states and Kaduna he would win. Currently, he has no problem in Nasarawa, Kogi, Benue, Plateau, and Abuja. He would get over 30% in all these.

Trinitycian:
Yet you're scared of meeting me even in any police station of your choice?

Lol, fraudster

Oga what are your aim and objective? Do you go about meeting everyone you chat with on Nairaland? You are clearly up to something dangerous.

frank14011991:
You people said more than this in 2019 when el-rufai went for Muslim Muslim ticket

This is not 2019 what is your point.

LikeAking:
We have all witnessed Christians been attacked by people with spiritual powers. Some of them have lost their life's, financiers, health, etc to wicked juju attacks.

Abeg no cum here form ignorance.

Why is JUJU still harming Christians? Even the pastors are not left out..

Juju only kills Africans and those from the developing world.

famozine1:
Am not asking this question so I can continue In one with east affect because both are very dangerous am asking to know how far I need to go spiritually to get my self back from this evil forces

Every single sin even lying affects our eternal destiny. So your question doesn't make much sense.

Righteousness2:
https://www.nairaland.com/7343413/artificial-insemination-sin-when-done#116851699

As usual, you can't qoute one verse were God called it a sin. Flying in an aeroplane is also unnatural. Does that make it a sin? Women using makeup is also unnatural.

lhordspy:
That is what am saying. Everything is different this time. Can't you feel it too.
I think for the first time, we are going to have large turnout of voters everywhere in the country. We will have atleast over 6m+ turnout voters in Lagos alone. The question shouldnt even be if tinubu can win by over 40percent.
The question should be what can other candidate savage from Lagos.

And when i mean other candidate, Atiku and kwankwaso are non-existence politically presently in Lagos. So am definitely refferring to peter obi. He is the only tinubu competition in Lagos presently.

What do you think is different about Lagos this time?

lhordspy:
Very true ofcourse, reason why i stated very clearly that atleast taking out the diversity in tribe which is something to take note when talking about Lagos. But it doesnt have any effect in its voters in anyways except the igbos voters who wioo definitely be gunning for Peter Obi.
But asides that, i think as bad as it might get, Tinubu will have atleast 4-5m+ votes in Lagos state. Except the religion factor is to be upset and it is to play a big role. Then brother, Tinubu will have a big problem, a very big one as at that.

But asides that, i think Tinubu will be winning Lagos with large margin. That is his sure card right now, reason why we see the SWAGA(southwest tinubu campaign) are the most active of all other tinubu campaign organisation.

Remember of recent too, the former candidate of PDP in Lagos, musiliu obanikoro who decamp to Apc few years back...was upgraded to a a big position within the APC lagos state chapter. And also we have rumour of the chairman of Labour party in Lagos working for APC lagos state. It entails more about how serious Asiwaju want to get in Lagos and south west general. Hate him or love him, Tinubu is a brillant chief strategist. Man was made for politics, he moves is chess so well and calculative.

Especially in Lagos, i dont even Tinubu wants a big chunk out of the Lagos vote, the man want it all!

It's not about what he wants but what the voters want. I understand your thinking but it is not backed by history. APC has never won Lagos by over 8%. Let's assume the Lagos demography is the same, how do you expect him to pull the magic? What didn't he do in 2015 that you think he is doing now?
Also, Lagos never gets up to 50% of registered voters to vote on election day.