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Man102:
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ahmedio2017:
Jews (Judaism) are quite different from Christians

ahmedio2017:
Your brother has ran away maybe you should help him out

ahmedio2017:
Tell us where the word Bible is mentioned in the Bible

ahmedio2017:
What gave you the assurance that Bible is a word of God when you cannot even find it inside Torah and injeel.

Jovi10:
Your first question I mentioned the donbass region. If you don't know where the donbass region is go online to check it out .

2nd everything that happened in the donbass region was as a result of the USA sponsored coup that removed Ukraine's president because he was more inclined towards Russia than the West. After the coup ethnic Russians wanted out , western puppet was installed as president (zelensky) who's promise was that he was going to stabilize relationship with Russia. He came in and did the opposite, cut off water to the donbass region, banned Russian language etc which resulted in a revolt. Azov battalion was sent in by Ukraine and began ethnic cleansing, Russia supported her people in the donbass regions with weapons to defend themselves at the same time Russia was calling on the attention of UN and the West to the ethnic cleansing of Russians in the donbass region they did nothing. Even the Western media admitted that azov battalion was a terrorist group with Nazi ideology, but the moment The war started, same azov battalion became freedom fighters. The rest is history .


Of course Ukraine has the right to her sovereignty but when the sovereignty is a threat to your neighbor just like cubas sovereignty was a threat to the USA, your neighbor has the right to protect themselves.

Ohyoudidnt:
You accept that "ta biblia" means literally "the Books" where the word "ta" translates roughly to "the" but remain adamant that the Bible is a single book comprising SEVERAL BOOKS?

Ohyoudidnt:
Context please. Do you ignore that Q2:40 translates to mean O Children of Israel! Remember My Favour which I bestowed upon you, and fulfill (your obligations to) My Covenant (with you) so that I fulfill (My Obligations to) your covenant (with Me), and fear none but Me

before

And believe in what I have sent down (this Quran), confirming that which is with you, [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)], and be not the first to disbelieve therein, and buy not with My Verses [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] a small price (i.e. getting a small gain by selling My Verses), and fear Me and Me Alone. (Tafsir At-Tabari, Vol. I, Page)

اَنۡزَلۡتُ,anzaltu,I have sent down

Q2:87>And indeed, We gave Musa (Moses) the Book and followed him up with a succession of Messengers. And We gave 'Iesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), clear signs and supported him with Ruh-ul-Qudus [Jibrael (Gabriel)]. Is it that whenever there came to you a Messenger with what you yourselves desired not, you grew arrogant? Some, you disbelieved and some, you killed

Q2:88>And they say, "Our hearts are wrapped (i.e. do not hear or understand Allah's Word)." Nay, Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so little is that which they believe

before Q2:89>And when there came to them (the Jews), a Book (this Quran) from Allah confirming what is with them [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)], although aforetime they had invoked Allah (for coming of Muhammad Peace be upon him) in order to gain victory over those who disbelieved, then when there came to them that which they had recognised, they disbelieved in it. So let the Curse of Allah be on the disbelievers

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And Q2:101:And when there came to them a Messenger from Allah (i.e. Muhammad Peace be upon him) confirming what was with them, a party of those who were given the Scripture threw away the Book of Allah behind their backs as if they did not know

Ohyoudidnt:
DOES THE QURAN NOT CONFIRM THE ONENESS OF ALLAH,THE AFTERLIFE,STORIES AND MESSAGES OF THE PREVIOUS PROPHETS?
Are you not persistently stating and arguing that Allah forbid prophet Muhammad pbuh and Allah lies and so many other despicable claims?

Jovi10:
The war didn't start 2 years ago. How long are we going to keep telling you people this. When Ukraine was killing Russian speaking people in the donbass region , where was the world , where was you people's voice?

Ohyoudidnt:
What?

The Hebrew Bible, also known as Mikra (“what is read”) or TaNaKh, an acronym referring to the traditional Jewish division of the Bible into Torah (Teaching), Nevi’im (Prophets), and Ketuvim (Writings), is the founding document of the people of Israel, describing its origins, history and visions of a just society.

The word Bible, from the Greek, ta biblia(attention Tenq who forgot the ta), is plural and means “books.” This reflects the fact that the Bible is actually a collection of individual books (such as Genesis, Exodus, Isaiah, Song of Songs, and many others).

Enoch is believed to have existed before Moses based on biblical accounts, the compilation of his book after the Torah can be attributed to various factors related to canonization, theological emphasis, and historical context.

The process of canonization in Judaism and Christianity involved careful selection and recognition of certain texts as authoritative scripture. The Torah, being foundational to both faiths, was given priority in terms of inclusion in the biblical canon.

Also the he content and themes of Enoch’s book may not have aligned completely with the theological perspectives and teachings that were emphasized in the Torah. This could have influenced its later compilation and acceptance within certain religious traditions.

In summation the historical context in which these texts were written and compiled also played a role. The Torah was foundational to Israelite religion and identity, while Enoch’s book may have been seen as more esoteric or specialized in nature.

AntiChristian:
List the descriptions of first and second beast that Jesus son of Mary and Imam Mahdi fits from your Bible?

To kickstart the discussions I would make a list of what the Muslims believe concerning Jesus son of Mary!

We will refer to Jesus as ‘Eesa throughout this article.

I will like to inform you that among what a Muslim must ''believe in'' is to believe in the Prophets as stated in the authentic Islamic texts. This Prophets includes Ibrahim (Abraham), Musa (Moses), Isma'eel (Ishmael), Ishaq (Isaac), Yaqoob (Jacob), Ayyob (Job), Yoonus (Jonah), Haroon (Aaron), Sulaiman (Solomon), Dawud (David), Idrees (Enoch), Dhul Kifl (Isaiah), Lut (Lot), Zakariyya (Zachariah), Ilyaas (Elijah), Al-Yasa (Elisha), Yahya (John), 'Eesa (Jesus) and Muhammad (Peace be upon them all). And the knowledge of their numbers belongs to Allah only! We believe all of them were sent by Allah to certain set of people. Some were given Inspired Books like Torah (Musa), Zabur (Dawud) Injeel ('Eesa), Qur'an (Muhammad), etc.

The beliefs of a Muslim towards ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (Jesus the son of Mary – peace be upon him).

1. Muslims do believe in ‘Eesa as a Prophet, a messenger and a noble slave of Allah sent to the children of Israel to call them to believe in Allah alone and to worship Him alone.

2. ‘Eesa was never a god or the son of God as the Christians claim.

3. We believe that Allaah supported him with miracles that proved he was speaking the truth. Many Prophets before him did miracles. The miracles includes ‘Eesa speaking while he was still in the cradle, breathing in to a clay bird making it turn to a live bird, healing the blind & lepers, quickening the dead, etc. All this happens solely with the permission of Allah.

4. We believe ‘Eesa has no father and his mother Maryam was a virgin. This is similar to Adam who has no father or Mother and Hawa (Eve) who has no mother but was created from Adam (peace be upon them both).

5. We believe that he permitted to the Jews some of the things that had been forbidden to them.

6. We believe that he did not die and his enemies the Jews did not kill him, rather Allaah saved him from them and raised him up to heaven alive.

7. We believe that he told his followers of the coming of our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

8. We believe that he will come back down at the end of time, and will disprove the claim of his enemies the Jews that they killed him, and will disprove the claim of the Christians that he is God or the son of God, and he will not accept anything from them but Islam.

9. Then he will die and the Muslims will offer the funeral prayer for him and bury him.

These are the beliefs of a Muslim towards ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (peace be upon him) as founded in the Books of Islam.

adenigga:
Source: https://punchng.com/Putin-warns-NATO-of-World-War-III

Dream25:
Stop with this propaganda...
Putin is not the one fanning WW3, it's the West... Putin already made himself clear from the beginning, any official soldier from a Western country in ukraine will be a target and Russia have every right without limitation to believe such country is at war with Russia...

Ahmadusmanu:
Regarding to your question
1 yes, Allah use to come down to the first heaven to listen to the cries of his servants.

Ahmadusmanu:
2 yes Allah throne is above water in the seventh heaven.

Ahmadusmanu:
3 Allah means,the only one true God worthy of worship.
I hope you are satisfied now.or are you the one to tell Allah how to run his affairs?

Ohyoudidnt:
Oga examiner do find your class and test scripts to evaluate elsewhere please.

I have rendered literature on what Biblia from Greek means.

Which group of Christians? Do you turn around to imply people of the book as stated in the Quran refers to only Christians? That is not tenable nor acceptable.

In conclusion show otherwise that throughout history, there have been various books excluded from the final canon of the Bible. These books are often referred to as apocryphal or deuterocanonical books.

The reasons for excluding these texts varied, but some common factors include concerns about their authorship, content, theological consistency, and widespread acceptance among the early Christian communities.

So the early Christians chose what to accept and reject isn't It? If it doesn't go well with us remove it

Botragelad:
Source:
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-military-says-troops-raid-gazas-shifa-hospital-2024-03-18/

Ohyoudidnt:
Of course Nairaland is full of the Macabre dance of Tenq around issues without directly addressing them.
Is the Quran 10:94 talking about origins of the word Bible or there is the claim by ANTIISLAM and supported or promulgated by you that Bible is distinctly mentioned in the Quran?

Why should I answer a question unrelated to the actual question? Did I claim to speak Greek? Oh I forget the Bible is a translation of a Greek written Bible to which it was translated from Hebrew, Aramaic or which ever Israelite language.

Is the Bible the only scripture used by the people before and more likely by some during the prophethood of Muhammad pbuh? Your friend SIRTEE15 clearly states Jesus reading a variant from the scrolls of Isaiah or are these scrolls too not scripture as the Book of Giants I mentioned earlier.

Too bad you and your lot failed to show Bible particularly written in the Quran.
Kindly stop your false claims.

Ahmadusmanu:
Let me address your misunderstanding.

Some of ur translations of the quran Hadith are seriously flawed with the malicious intent to mislead the general public.

Allah the most gracious,most merciful only do what befits his majesty.only he deserves to be worshipped, that's tauheed in islam.that is the message all the messengers of Allah preached to their people including prophet muhammad(s.a.w).you can find evidence all over the Torah and injeel.its funny to see a Christian who believes that he's powerful God was striped naked and whipped till coma by his creation then hanged on the cross for our sins can come and troll Our lord Almighty.
u said Jesus is a savior but he can't save himself from the cross, but rather crying for help to another God .go and seek for more knowledge pls.

Salam.

Ohyoudidnt:
Ehya! The problem of little knowledge. Now you are shifting from Bible to scripture. Is there a difference? Perhaps you will show the false dilemma you present being that all scripture are not the Bible or are they? ANTIISLAM boldly holds that Bible is explicitly stated in the Quran verse 10:94 and you agree and support him. The simple question you both fail to answer is the exact word that is arabic for Bible in that verse. I have been waiting for you to show me and you pull another one Scripture.
Please isn't there a difference between Bible and Scripture from the point that not all scripture are the Bible. Clear case why so many scripture are excluded from the Biblical canon or isn't It? Did I not ask why the Book of Enoch was excluded from the Bible cannon? Is it not scripture?

The term أَهْلَ ٱلْكِتَـٰبِ (Ahl al-Kitab) is a common phrase in the Quran and is generally translated as “People of the Book” or “People of the Scripture.

The Arabic word كتاب (Kitab) has a broad range of meanings, including “book,” “writing,” “record,” or “scripture.” In the context of the Quran, it often refers to divine revelations and sacred texts. For example, in Surah Al-Baqarah (2:2), the Quran describes itself as “a Book whose verses are made clear and then detailed from One Who is Wise and Well-Acquainted [with all things].”

The problem with people that do single word translation without considering other words in the verse or context. So because you know simple addition of numbers you are now equal to the Engineer applying complex mathematical equations to create working and reproduceable innovation to ease or tackle tasks?

Get well educated and stop displaying stupid ignorance please. Unbaked flour dough.

Ohyoudidnt:
Fantastic work at upholding your dishonesty.



Is the above without a definition of Bible or you didn't see It? What trash do you speak about Greek language and Bible? Is the word Bible explicitly said in the Quran and particularly in vs 10:94?

Show the word and stop creating answers to questions you weren't asked.

You claim كتاب (kitab) in Arabic means Bible where did you get this translation from? Show it here if you are a bit honest.

As stated before:


Once you can prove Kitab is Bible you are then worthy to ask other questions.

ahmedio2017:
Ok it is now book and not Bible again? Where did u see Bible before sebi u were quoting Quran sebi u said Quran mention Bible u go explain tire.

Who named Bible? Just answer simple question. May be u should ask ur pastors.

It's surprising the Book have no name. I can see the word Bible only on the cover pages. Who name it Paul or Who??

ahmedio2017:
The Word Quran is mentioned 70 times in the Holy Quran.

I do read Bible but am yet to see the Word Bible. Maybe I have not come across it, help me with it.

But if the word is not there, I don't need further theories and hypotheses that the Bible is Hebrew from then this and that bla bla bla... For all I need is the verse of the Bible.

The Holy Qur'an is also translated to English and that doesn't erase the word Qur'an.

Just answer simple question. Calm down and learn.

Ohyoudidnt:
There is no direct evidence in the New Testament that Jesus held a physical copy of the Torah in his hands. However, there are numerous references to Jesus’ knowledge of and familiarity with the Torah.

It is important to note that during Jesus’ time, physical copies of the Torah were not widely available. The Torah was typically written on parchment scrolls, which were expensive and time-consuming to produce. As a result, they were primarily owned by synagogues and religious institutions rather than individuals. It is unlikely that Jesus himself would have owned a physical copy of the Torah.

Ohyoudidnt:
Let me start with your clear falsehood which proves you are incapable of honest discourse.

You claim that the Arabic word for Bible is kitab? Do you know this is written in Arabic as كتاب. What translation to English do you have of this? Sincerely answer!


If you can prove this means Bible then we may continue with you listing or discussing your claims of contradiction in the Quran however show proof that كتاب is the Arabic equivalent of Bible

ahmedio2017:
U go explain tire no evidence, all this are gibrish.



Who named Bible? Just answer simple question. May be u should ask ur pastors.

It's surprising the Book have no name. I can see the word Bible only on the cover pages. Who name it Paul or Who??

The Word Quran is mentioned 70 times in the Holy Quran.

I do read Bible but am yet to see the Word Bible. Maybe I have not come across it, help me with it.

But if the word is not there, I don't need further theories and hypotheses that the Bible is Hebrew from then this and that bla bla bla... For all I need is the verse of the Bible.


The Holy Qur'an is also translated to English and that doesn't erase the word Qur'an.


Just answer simple question. Calm down and learn.

Ohyoudidnt:
Do these verses annul the corruption of the scripture by these people?

Ohyoudidnt:
Jesus often clashed with the Pharisees, a prominent Jewish sect known for their strict adherence to religious laws and traditions. One significant point of contention between Jesus and the Pharisees was their interpretation and application of the Scriptures.

In Matthew 23:23, Jesus rebuked the Pharisees, saying, “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy, and faithfulness.”

Obviously you claim that Mark 7:8-9, Jesus condemned the Pharisees, saying, “You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.” He accused them of nullifying the word of God by their traditions, thereby corrupting the true essence of divine teachings is a lie.

IS THIS THE CASE OR YOU TOO DISTORT THE TRUTH

Ohyoudidnt:
Did I not share definitions of the Bible with you? Does Quran 10:94 say Bible or you make unfounded claims?

Show the arabic word or phrase for Bible in Quran 10:94 if you speak the truth you and ANTIISLAM that is grossly ignorant of what he is against.

ahmedio2017:
God created man to worship him, our purpose in life is to serve God. That's all.

ahmedio2017:
You are yet to answer my question o


It's surprising the Book have no name. I can see the word Bible only on the cover pages. Who name it Paul or Who??

The Word Quran is mentioned 70 times in the Holy Quran.

I do read Bible but am yet to see the Word Bible. Maybe I have not come across it, help me with it.

But if the word is not there, I don't need further theories and hypotheses that the Bible is Hebrew from then this and that bla bla bla... For all I need is the verse of the Bible.


The Holy Qur'an is also translated to English and that doesn't erase the word Qur'an.


Just answer simple question. Calm down and learn.

ahmedio2017:
Answer those questions oga, do you think I'm one of the sheeps? Lolz your business will eventually collapse useless pastors defrauding gulible followers(sheeps).

If you can't answer those questions you are a fool....

ahmedio2017:
Another question for you
What is the purpose of life?

ahmedio2017:
Thanks for this clarification

God recognizes only one religion which is Islam... All the prophets of God are Muslims....

Ohyoudidnt:
1. In the Quran, there are references to a group of people who were reading the book before Mohammed. These individuals are believed to be the People of the Book, which include Jews, Christians, and possibly other religious groups who existed before the prophethood of Muhammad on Islam.

The Quran acknowledges that these people had access to a divine scripture and that they were following certain teachings and commandments that were revealed to their respective prophets.

The Quran mentions several Jewish communities and individuals in its text. According to Islamic tradition, the Torah (Tawrat) was given to Moses (Musa a.s) and served as a source of guidance for the Israelites. The Quran acknowledges that the Torah contains guidance from Allah, but it also criticizes some Jews for altering their scripture and disbelieving in their prophets.

The Quran often mentions Christians and their beliefs. The Christian scripture, referred to as the Injil (Gospel), is believed to have been given to Jesus (Isa a.s) by Allah. The Quran acknowledges Jesus as a prophet and confirms many aspects of Christian teachings such as Jesus’ virgin birth, miracles, and his role as a messenger from Allah. However, it also criticizes some Christians for deifying Jesus and his mother Mary (Maryam), and for deviating from the original teachings of their religion.

The Sabians are another group mentioned in the Quran as being “People of the Book.” Although they are less well-known than Jews and Christians, they are considered an important religious community in Islamic tradition. They are generally believed to be a monotheistic religious group that lived in Mesopotamia during the time of Muhammad. Some scholars suggest that they might have been star worshippers or followers of John the Baptist, but there is no consensus on this matter.

Ohyoudidnt:
2. The books are the Torah of Moses, The Testament of Abraham, The Psalms of David and the injil of Jesus though there's no record of its existence as a book.

Ohyoudidnt:
3. The Bible is a name given to the sacred scriptures of Christians comprising the Old Testament and the New Testament,the sacred scriptures of some other religion (such as Judaism) and is an obsolete term for book.

However the verse 10:94 has no word translated to Bible or can you show me الكتاب المقدس in It?

ahmedio2017:
You are the one that is frustrated here oga.
Simple questions you find it difficult to answer.


1) is there anything called Christianity during the era of Jesus Christ PBUH?

2) show us the verse where Jesus proclaimed Christianity

3) what is the correlation between how Jesus worship compare to how u guys worship.

4) who wrote Bible if not Paul then tell us. You are just a useless fellow full of lies. It is u that is lost sheep and am not sure u can be founded unless u change this your useless mentality and thought..... Pele.

ANTllSLAAM:
The guy will run away for these questions

Ohyoudidnt:
فَإِن
fa-in
So if
كُنتَ
kunta
you are
فِي
fi
in
شَكّٖ
shakkin
doubt
مِّمَّآ
mimma
of what
أَنزَلۡنَآ
anzalna
We have revealed
إِلَيۡكَ
ilayka
to you
فَسۡـَٔلِ
fasali
then ask
ٱلَّذِينَ
alladhina
those who
يَقۡرَءُونَ
yaqrauna
(have been) reading
ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ
al-kitaba
the Book
مِن
min
before you
قَبۡلِكَۚ
qablika
before you
لَقَدۡ
laqad
Verily
جَآءَكَ
jaaka
has come to you
ٱلۡحَقُّ
al-haqu
the truth
مِن
min
from
رَّبِّكَ
rabbika
your Lord
فَلَا
fala
so (do) not
تَكُونَنَّ
takunanna
be
مِنَ
mina
among
ٱلۡمُمۡتَرِينَ
al-mum'tarina
the doubters
٩٤
فَإِن كُنتَ فِى شَكٍّۢ مِّمَّآ أَنزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ فَسْـَٔلِ ٱلَّذِينَ يَقْرَءُونَ ٱلْكِتَـٰبَ مِن قَبْلِكَ ۚ لَقَدْ جَآءَكَ ٱلْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ ٱلْمُمْتَرِينَ

ANTIIISLAM kindly show the word that translates to Bible and if you like call TENQ and SIRTEE15 who seem to redefine the Arabic language.

Did you consider these verses along with your misconception of Quran 10:94?

Have you done research on the age of Mary the mother of Yeshua peace be on both of them? The latter you call Jesus.

By your standards it's wrong for her to her had a child before the age of 20. Do fact check.

Namaster:
No one is going to pay #907k minimum wage in Nigeria. Not even in the next 35 years.

Imagine the ripple effects. Inflation will take off like a rocket launched by Spacex.

God1000:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s02jyhnDQ4



https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-ready-nuclear-war-putin-warns-west-rcna143119

God1000:
How can you ignore decades of systematic abuse, occupation of Palestinian lands and oppression by the Israelis and only be focused on the October 7th incident.

We are all humans guy