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honesttalk21:
In Islamic theology, Quran 9:31 is interpreted as a condemnation of associating partners with Allah, known as shirk. This verse specifically mentions that some people have taken their scholars, monks, and Isa as lords besides Allah. This behavior is considered a grave sin in Islam, as it violates the fundamental principle of Tawhid (the oneness of Allah). The verse emphasizes that these groups were not commanded to worship anyone except Allah and that there is no deity worthy of worship other than Him.

I agree with you that is exactly why Qur'an 9:31 is an error


Mohammed intended to say:

Qur'an 9:31 :
"They took their Rabbis , and Monks AND the Messiah the son of Mary as Lords other than Allah?
أَخَذُوا أَحْبَارَهُمْ وَرُهْبَانَهُمْ وَالْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ أَرْبَابًا مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ

honesttalk21:
The verb اتَّخَذُواْ (ittaKhathuwa) in Quran 9:31 is often translated as “they took” or “they have taken.” The full verse (9:31) states:

“They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah, and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.”

In this context, the verb اتَّخَذُواْ (ittaKhathuwa) is used in conjunction with the noun “Messiah, the son of Mary,” implying that some people have taken Isa (Jesus) as a god or a lord besides Allah. This interpretation is supported by the broader context of the Quran, which emphasizes the oneness of Allah and prohibits the worship of any other deities.

The verb اتَّخَذُواْ (ittaKhathuwa) is a form III verb in Arabic, which generally conveys the meaning of “taking” or “choosing.” In this specific instance, it is used in conjunction with the preposition بِ (bi), which can indicate “with” or “as.” Thus, the phrase الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ (al-masihu [b]ib[/b]nu maryama) can be translated as “with the Messiah, the son of Mary” or “as the Messiah, the son of Mary.” The use of this preposition reinforces the idea that some people are taking Isa as a god or lord alongside Allah.


In Islamic theology, Quran 9:31 is interpreted as a condemnation of associating partners with Allah, known as shirk. This verse specifically mentions that some people have taken their scholars, monks, and Isa as lords besides Allah. This behavior is considered a grave sin in Islam, as it violates the fundamental principle of Tawhid (the oneness of Allah). The verse emphasizes that these groups were not commanded to worship anyone except Allah and that there is no deity worthy of worship other than Him.

Quran 9:31 is an obvious error that entered the Qur'an and ALL your scholars and translators of the Qur'an are struggling to correct it.

I checked up to 32 English translations and their stories didn't agree
While stone inserted words like ALSO (which is not in the Qur'an)
Others swapped the position of the Messiah to fit into their preferred Narrative.
Others just wrote what they wanted as how they wanted it to appear.


Unfortunately, you and I know that this is a mistake in the Qur'an and Muslim scholars are trying their best to correct it

11doubledee:
Lol 😂 😂 😂
They will have to wait till eternity for that to come to fruition.
Isreal as well as Palestine have all come to stay.
All both sides have to do is make comprises and move on.
Because for isreal not exist, the middle east will never remain the same again.
This is the 21st century for goodness sake.

Hamas was banking on the Arab world uniting to fight Israel, unfortunately, it didn't happen like they hoped

honesttalk21:
Have we considered where this or similar occurs elsewhere?

Yes, we did.

Have you forgotten that you translated for me

أَخَذُوا مُعَلِّمِيهِمْ وَأُسْاتِذَتِهِمْ كَمُرَشِّدِينَ بِجَانِبِ عَلِيٍّ وَالْمَلِكِ، ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ

honesttalk21:
Yes I did a research. Did I attribute it to any other?
Which scholar says this is all I ask?

Ordinary Arabic spoken by Allah and you need the consent of your scholars to validate it?

Do you see why I said that Muslims don't believe in Allah and Mohammed. They believe in the consensus agreement of their scholars even when it is an obvious lie.


Is this what your scholars agree about?

Qur'an 9:31 :
"They took their Rabbis , and Monks AND the Messiah the son of Mary as Lords other than Allah?
أَخَذُوا أَحْبَارَهُمْ وَرُهْبَانَهُمْ وَالْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ أَرْبَابًا مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ

AntiChristian:
Bring evidence and you are still quoting the book that you said can't be used as evidence again!
Enough with your Galatians 3:1 attitude!

Can you show me the evidence Jesus fasted 40 days and 40 nights? Did he eat at all?
Can you mention five names and surnames of those Jesus healed?

Oya answer!

What is special with your book to be used as evidence.

Allah has already answered you about Jesus: He is even a Co-Creator of life.



Qur'an 3:49
And will make him a messenger unto the Children of Israel, (saying): Lo! I come unto you with a sign from your Lord. Lo! I fashion for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, and I breathe into it and it is a bird , by Allah's leave. I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead, by Allah's leave. And I announce unto you what ye eat and what ye store up in your houses. Lo! herein verily is a portent for you, if ye are to be believers.

Was Allah telling lies?

AntiChristian:
Yes, i am.
The evidence is in the Qur'an and Muhammad's legacy in his country Saudi Arabia!

How can a book be an evidence?
What makes this book extraordinary?
Which other prophet in history has book validating Prophethood?

AntiChristian:
Abeg what did Holy spirit just confused you to type? Did you even read the sentence?

Can you show me the evidence Jesus fasted 40 days and 40 nights? Did he eat at all?
Can you mention five names and surnames of those Jesus healed?

Unfortunately for you, Allah says that Jesus did much more difficult signs than not eating or even healing.

Did you know that Jesus created LIFE exactly like Allah created Adam?

It seems you don't know

Qur'an 3:49
And will make him a messenger unto the Children of Israel, (saying): Lo! I come unto you with a sign from your Lord. Lo! I fashion for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, and I breathe into it and it is a bird , by Allah's leave. I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead, by Allah's leave. And I announce unto you what ye eat and what ye store up in your houses. Lo! herein verily is a portent for you, if ye are to be believers.

Was Allah telling lies?

sammymax:
I seriously need advice as I really don't know what the right or best thing to do at this time. Please elders in the house be kind enough to suggest what I could do.

I did not think something like this can still happen in this era but this is what I have to deal with. So my mum flat out told me she does not like the girl I took home because she is not fine. About 3years ago when we went home together she told me this but I just disregarded it like when I'm ready she won't have a choice but to accept her as she is. To be honest she is not fine at all but she gives me peace of mind which I feel is the ultimate.

She was involved in an accident with my dad last year and we lost my dad in the process. During the burial I went home with my babe again and my mum still made her displeasure with the girl show.

The thing now is that I went home again to see how she is doing and she called to speak me again after stating that I had disobeyed her by not breaking up with the girl she said is still not having her and if I insist she is the one I should count her out of the marriage. She can never come visiting or even call her. She will not attend the wedding. Now I am 32 and she is 30

How do I navigate this situation. I plead for good advice. Have you been in a similar situation how did you handle it.

If this is true, you have an mature mummy!

Tell her I said so!

Is she herself even beautiful?

99 % of women are average. Makeup and packaging is what makes the difference for them.

Have you seen Tiwa Savage without makeup?

AntiChristian:
I have a job o and even i don't have time for pointless arguments!

Which school did Paul attend? Who were his teachers? And why did Jesus choose mostly illiterates?

And you are quoting Luke's Acts again who is a historian writing historical accounts!





From Allah by inspiration!

Are you sure it was Allah to told Mohammed ?
What is your evidence?

Mohammed said it was one spirit that he doesn't even know it's name unto prophet Waraqa informed him that the Spirit was Jibril!

LOL!

11doubledee:
That shows their true intentions.
I'm very sure this minister was celebrating on October 7, 2023.
They all talk as if isreal just woke one day and decide to attack them without no provocation.
That's the real pretence and manipulation there.
That's the reason they keep making excuses for Islamic terrorists in the north by giving Amnesty and stipends while unemployed graduates have never gotten a dime

The objective of Hamas was to chase Israel out of the whole of the state of Israel or better still a complete annihilation of the Jews, only then would there be peace.

Every Palestinian is looking forward to the fulfilment of this hadith

SahihMuslim 2922
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, oh the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

honesttalk21:
Who's translation is this? Do you no longer know what is meant by a reference?

You did a translation for me remember!?

Only that it wasn't the Qur'an, thus you could speak the truth. But immediately it's the Qur'an, you must appeal to the consensus of your scholars.

This is not how it is done sir.

honesttalk21:
There's no reinterpretation here except yours speaking so authoritatively about a language you know too little of primarily because it challenges the root of your belief.

Do you say that Arabic doesn't have a complex verb and noun conjugation?

Did we not look at a similar non Qur'an sentence?
How come this didn't require some elusive complex verb and noun conjugation?

You gat no excuse my brother. Language shouldn't change just because we are talking the Quran

honesttalk21:
Provide reference. This is at variance to translations approved.

We have looked at the Arabic text haven't we?

The issue is NOT how your scholars want to re-interprete the verse but what Allah is truly saying

honesttalk21:
Your reasoning from English language and how sentences are arranged is what limits.
You see these translations of the meaning and not literal translation you rely on.

No sir.
This was why I gave you a neutral Arabic sentence to translate.
أَخَذُوا مُعَلِّمِيهِمْ وَأُسْاتِذَتِهِمْ كَمُرَشِّدِينَ بِجَانِبِ عَلِيٍّ وَالْمَلِكِ، ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ

And even your translation wasn't too different from mine as.

The translation :
"They took their teachers and professors as mentors other than Ali and the king, the son of Mary."
Here is your translation (modified)
They took their teachers and professors as guides alongside Ali and the king, the son of Mary

This I have repeatedly and unbiasly said that with the Qur'an and the translation should be

Qur'an 9:31
They (Jews and Christians) have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides (instead of/alongside) Allah and the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.

honesttalk21:
9.31 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(They have taken as lords beside Allah) i.e. they obeyed them in acts of disobedience (their rabbis) the men of knowledge among the Jews (and their monks) who reside in monasteries (and the Messiah son of Mary) and they have taken the Messiah son of Mary as lord, (when they were bidden) in all Scriptures (to worship) to confess the divine Oneness of (only One God. There is no god save Him. Be He glorified from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him)!) Allah exalts Himself above all that which they ascribe to Him.
9.31 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
They have taken their rabbis, the scholars among the Jews, and their monks, the devout among the Christians, as lords beside God — following them in making lawful what God has made unlawful and making unlawful what He has made lawful — and the Messiah, son of Mary, when they were not commanded, in the Torah and the Gospel, except to worship One God: there is no god except Him; glory be to Him, as an affirmation of His transcendence [high], above what they associate [with Him].


Adi ibn Hatim narrated: "I came to the Prophet (ﷺ) while I had a cross of gold around my neck. He said: 'O Adi! Remove this idol from yourself!’ And I heard him reciting from Surah Bara’ah: They took their rabbis and monks as lords besides Allah (9:31). He said: ‘As for them, they did not worship them, but when they made something lawful for them, they considered it lawful, and when they made something unlawful for them, they considered it unlawful.’" (Jami’ At-Tirmidhi)

The narrator Adi ibn Hatim is narrating the story about himself. Imam Tirmidhi considered this hadith Ghareeb, and Darussalam grades it as Daeef.

This version is shorter since there is no initial questioning by Adi ibn Hatim. The longer one is quoted in Ibn Kathir’s tafsir for the verse 19:31.

Imam Ahmad, At-Tirmidhi and Ibn Jarir At-Tabari recorded a Hadith via several chains of narration, from Adi bin Hatim, may Allah be pleased with him, who became Christian during the time of Jahiliyyah. When the call of the Messenger of Allah reached his area, Adi ran away to Ash-Sham, and his sister and several of his people were captured. The Messenger of Allah freed his sister and gave her gifts. So she went to her brother and encouraged him to become Muslim and to go to the Messenger of Allah .

Adi, who was one of the chiefs of his people (the tribe of Tai’) and whose father, Hatim At-Ta’i, was known for his generosity, went to Al-Madinah. When the people announced his arrival, Adi went to the Messenger of Allah wearing a silver cross around his neck. The Messenger of Allah recited this Ayah; (They took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah).

Adi commented, "I said, `They did not worship them.’"

The Prophet said, "Yes they did. They (rabbis and monks) prohibited the allowed for them (Christians and Jews) and allowed the prohibited, and they obeyed them. This is how they worshipped them."

The Messenger of Allah said to Adi, "O Adi what do you say Did you run away (to Ash-Sham) so that ‘Allahu Akbar’ (Allah is the Great) is not pronounced Do you know of anything greater than Allah What made you run away Did you run away so that `La ilaha illallah’ is not pronounced Do you know of any deity worthy of worship except Allah."

The Messenger invited Adi to embrace Islam, and he embraced Islam and pronounced the Testimony of Truth. The face of the Messenger of Allah beamed with pleasure and he said to Adi, "Verily, the Jews have earned the anger (of Allah) and the Christians are misguided." (Tafsir Ibn Kathir for 9:31)

Are you agreeing that your scholars are saying that the verse actually mean :

Qur'an 9:31 :
"They took their Rabbis , and Monks AND the Messiah the son of Mary as Lords other than Allah?
أَخَذُوا أَحْبَارَهُمْ وَرُهْبَانَهُمْ وَالْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ أَرْبَابًا مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ

Why is no one asking Hamas to return the hostages so that peace can start?

AntiChristian:
You defy reasonable logic in this regard!



Muhammad and Jesus are not contemporaries!
So you are only fooling yourself with this comment.

To write over 10 books about someone you did not meet you need to state your authority!
Even Paul wrote more that all the other disciples put together!

Were they the ones feeding him the stories they couldn't write?

See Paul's statements!

I say this as a concession, not as a command. 1 Corinthians 7:6

1 Corinthians 7:10
To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband.

1 Corinthians 7:12
To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If a brother has an unbelieving wife and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her.

1 Corinthians 7:25
Now about virgins, I have no command from the Lord, but I give a judgment as one who by the Lord's mercy is trustworthy.

Why can't all the other disciples do same? Write their opinions for you to follow and mix them with anything they can call scriptures from the Holy Spirit?

Na person wey get time to waste dey answer you continously!

You own argument no dey end!
Argument yesterday, today and forever na your own!
I no fit waste time there!

I can understand!
Any time you are flogged with reason and truth , you flee!

Only ignorant people do not know that Paul was highly educated and most of the Apostles were not as educated and they have to teach the church by being physically present. Moreover, Paul was commissioned by the Apostles to preach to the Gentile churches.

Acts 15:23-25:
"This is the letter they took along with them: "From: The apostles, elders and brothers at Jerusalem. "To: The Gentile brothers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia. Greetings! "We understand that some believers from here have upset you and questioned your salvation, but they had no such instructions from us. So it seemed wise to us, having unanimously agreed on our decision, to send to you these two official representatives, along with our beloved Barnabas and Paul."


Now, tell me where Mohammed got his information about Jesus for him to claim fictional stories about Him?

honesttalk21:
As for the misguidance of Christians over `Isa, it is obvious. This is why Allah declared both the Jews and them to be liars,

ذلِكَ قَوْلُهُم بِأَفْوَهِهِمْ

(That is their saying with their mouths), but they have no proof that supports their claim, other than lies and fabrications,

يُضَـهِئُونَ

(resembling), imitating,

قَوْلَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ مِن قَبْلُ

(the saying of those who disbelieved aforetime.) They imitate the previous nations who fell into misguidance just as Jews and Christians did,

قَـتَلَهُمُ اللَّهُ

(may Allah fight them), Ibn `Abbas said, "May Allah curse them."

أَنَّى يُؤْفَكُونَ

(how they are deluded away from the truth!) how they deviate from truth, when it is apparent, exchanging it for misguidance. Allah said next,

اتَّخَذُواْ أَحْبَـرَهُمْ وَرُهْبَـنَهُمْ أَرْبَاباً مِّن دُونِ اللَّهِ وَالْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ

(They took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah...) that the Christians and Jews obeyed their monks and rabbis in whatever they allowed or prohibited for them. This is why Allah said,

وَمَآ أُمِرُواْ إِلاَّ لِيَعْبُدُواْ إِلَـهاً وَحِداً

(while they were commanded to worship none but One God), Who, whatever He renders prohibited is the prohibited, whatever He allowed is the allowed, whatever He legislates, is to be the law followed, and whatever He decides is to be adhered to;

لاَّ إِلَـهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ سُبْحَـنَهُ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ

(None has the right to be worshipped but He. Hallowed be He above what they associate (with Him).) Meaning, exalted, sanctified, hallowed above partners, equals, aids, rivals or children, there is no deity or Lord worthy of worship except Him.

You are just repeating yourself and is different from what Allah said in the Qur'an.

It's either a mistake or an error.


Most likely, Allah intended to say:

Qur'an 9:31 :
"They took their Rabbis , and Monks AND the Messiah the son of Mary as Lords other than Allah.
أَخَذُوا أَحْبَارَهُمْ وَرُهْبَانَهُمْ وَالْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ أَرْبَابًا مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ


What do I know?
The Quran is perfectly preserved!


Please let's close this chapter till another time.

Isn't it?

honesttalk21:
I believe one of my brothers; I think Explore2more, told you this many months ago.

The verse Surah Al-Tawbah (9:31) in the Quran. It refers to the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) who have taken their rabbis and monks as lords instead of Allah. The verse also mentions that they have been commanded to worship one God only, but they have taken Jesus as God besides Allah.


This verse is believed to have been revealed in the context of the hypocrites in Medina who were not fully committed to Islam. They were still holding onto some of their old beliefs and practices, including reverence for their religious leaders and Jesus. The verse emphasizes that Allah alone is worthy of worship and that taking any other being as a lord or deity besides Him is a grave sin.

While monks, rabbis, and Jesus are respected for their roles in their respective religions, Muslims do not consider them to be divine or worthy of worship. They are seen as individuals who have been given a special role in their communities but are not deities themselves.

This is according to the consensus of your scholars and is different from the text of Qur'an 9:31

What Allah says in the Qur'an was:

Qur'an 9:31
They (Jews and Christians) have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides (instead of) Allah and the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.

Who is more important : Allah or your scholars?

AntiChristian:
Did Paul ever met Jesus?

And following your Logic, did Jesus ever met any of the Prophets before to have commented about them?

You beat the drum, please dance to it.

Did Mohammed meat anyone who met Jesus even in passing?
At least Paul met ALL the Apostles of Jesus except Judas!

BTW:
Why did you run away from my post to you? You got tongue tied? You designed it in such a way that I wouldn't respond to it but vola: I cleaned it up for you.
SMH1

AntiChristian:
It was Paul that never met Jesus wrote that letter! Where did Jesus tell him all that?
..

But it makes sense that Mohammed who nor his generations ever met Jesus was teaching about Him!?

It surely makes sense!

I guess that this is what Allah intended to say

Qur'an 9:31 :
"They took their Rabbis , and Monks AND the Messiah the son of Mary as Lords other than Allah.
أَخَذُوا أَحْبَارَهُمْ وَرُهْبَانَهُمْ وَالْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ أَرْبَابًا مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ


Isn't it?

honesttalk21:
Was Arabic not the language of the Arabians in Arabia at the time Muhammad pbuh preached.

Did they have interactions with people from other places who were not native Arabic speakers? Did these people translate their beliefs from another to Arabic? Probably so.

You are free to practice your belief as it is yours just don't mandate or force it on others.

Live and let live

No one can force anyone to do anything with respect to religion or faith and that cannot be my intention.

But I will be a wicked human being if I know the truth and withhold my knowledge which is able to save others from the deception of satan.

Most Muslims are sincere, but such is true about anyone who invested his money in a scam business.

Prov 14:12
There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.

I truly invite you to the Messiah for your salvation!


Can we stop here now?
The Truth you adopt will always set you free!

honesttalk21:
You are the one who needs hundreds of books to understand it.

Despite the similarities Arabic vocabulary is largely derived from triliteral roots, where patterns of consonants convey meaning. It has a complex system of verb conjugation and noun declension which is the case displayed in this verse that you are grossly ignorant of. Hebrew doesn't have the complex system of verb conjugation.

Surah Al-Tawbah in the verse 9:31 in the Quran refers to the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) who have taken their rabbis and monks as lords instead of Allah. The verse also mentions that they have been commanded to worship one God only, but they have taken Jesus as God besides Allah.

This verse is revealed in the context of the hypocrites in Medina who were not fully committed to Islam. They were still holding onto some of their old beliefs and practices, including reverence for their religious leaders and Jesus. The verse emphasizes that Allah alone is worthy of worship and that taking any other being as a lord or deity besides Him is a grave sin.

Are you saying that Allah took the most complex ambiguous language Arabic to convey to mankind his will instead of simpler easily comprehensible language like Hausa or Swahili or even English language !?



With all the exegesis of the language you just did for yourself, you still find it convenient to spew out falsehood.

Check your quote highlighted for you in yellow. I have completed it for you

Surah Al-Tawbah in the verse 9:31 in the Quran refers to the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) who have taken their rabbis and monks as lords instead of Allah AND the Messiah, son of Mary.


It was obviously an ERROR in the Qur'an which I can correct for Allah and you Muslims as



The Correction of Qur'an 9:31 :
"They took their Rabbis , and Monks AND the Messiah the son of Mary as Lords other than Allah.
أَخَذُوا أَحْبَارَهُمْ وَرُهْبَانَهُمْ وَالْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ أَرْبَابًا مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ


Is this not better if this is what Allah intend to say?

Too bad for the perfect Qur'an!




Can we stop here now?
The Truth you adopt will always set you free!

honesttalk21:
Translation of “مِن دُونِ” to “alongside”
The phrase “مِن دُونِ” in Arabic can be translated to “alongside” in English. However, it is important to note that the context of the sentence plays a significant role in determining the most accurate translation.

Understanding the phrase “مِن دُونِ”
The phrase “مِن دُونِ” is composed of two words: “مِن” (min) and “دُونِ” (duni). The word “مِن” is a preposition that is often translated to “from” or “of,” while “دُونِ” is also a preposition that can be translated to “without.” Together, these words are used to indicate a location or position that is separate from something else.

I understand your argument and to some extent I agree with it for using the word alongside rather than instead of or other than

The only problem is that
1. There is not even one English translation of the Qur'an that uses the word alongside
2. The use of the word alongside is prone to changing the meaning of the text to what is not intended.
For instance, going by your translation, the phrase

They took their teachers and professors as guides alongside Ali and the king, the son of Mary

Would mean that the subject (they) took their teachers and professors as guides/mentors IN ADDITION to Ali AND the King, the son of Mary.

This means that the use of alongside imply a more cooperative association between two groups of
1. The Teachers and the Professor
2. Ali and the king

I am sure this also is not what you intend to say.

I guess you can see why no translator of the Qur'an uses alongside to depict min dooni

honesttalk21:
Translating “مِن دُونِ” as “alongside”
In certain contexts, the phrase “مِن دُونِ” can be translated to “alongside.” This translation is most commonly used when the phrase is being used to describe two things that are physically located next to each other. For example, the sentence “السَّفِينَةُ تَجْرِي مِن دُونِ الْبَحْرِ” (Al-safīnahu tajrī min dūni al-bahr) could be translated to “The ship sails alongside the sea.”

However, it is important to note that this translation is not always accurate. In some cases, translating “مِن دُونِ” as “alongside” can change the meaning of the sentence entirely. Therefore, it is essential to consider the context of the sentence before translating this phrase.

I agree with the highlighted and of course you can see how the text has been distorted. As it is equally bad:

Your translation using besides actually encourage the Subject (they) to make as mentors the union of the Teacher, Professor, Ali and the king.

honesttalk21:
Other possible translations of “مِن دُونِ”
In addition to being translated as “alongside,” the phrase “مِن دُوńي” can also be translated to other English phrases depending on the context. For example, in some cases, it may be translated to:

Without: In some cases, the phrase “مِن دُونِ” can be translated to “without.” For example, the sentence “لا يَجِدُ حَلًا مِن دُوْنِ الْكِتَاب” (Lā yajidu ḥalāan min dūni al-kitāb) can be translated to “He cannot find a solution without the book.”
Apart from: In other cases, the phrase may be translated to “apart from.” For example, the sentence “مَا زَالَ الْعَالَمُ مَهْذُبًا مِن دُوْنِ اللّه” (Mā zāla al-ʿālamu mahdhubāan min dūni Allāh) can be translated to “The world has always been dependent on God apart from anything else.”
Except: Finally, in some cases, the phrase may be translated to “except.” For example, the sentence “قَامَ الرَّجُلُ مَرَّةً إلَّا مِن دُوْنِ الصَّاحب” (Qāma al-rajulun marraatan illa min dūni aş-ṣāḥib) can be translated to “The man stood up once except for his friend.”

Min dooni of a truth is better translated as without , apart from and except

And there are synonyms of other than or instead of

And this, I have used in translating the text as
The translation :
"They took their teachers and professors as mentors other than Ali and the king, the son of Mary."



Except if you feel that Allah expect that the Subject (they) should take their Monks and Rabbis in addition to the Messiah and Allah as Gods

honesttalk21:
Hebrew and Arabic are Semitic languages however they are not the same.

Arabic vs. Hebrew Language

Arabic and Hebrew are both Semitic languages with unique characteristics that set them apart from each other. Here are some key differences between Arabic and Hebrew:

1. Alphabet:

Arabic: The Arabic alphabet consists of 28 letters and is written from right to left. It is a cursive script, meaning that letters within a word are connected.
Hebrew: The Hebrew alphabet has 22 letters and is also written from right to left. Like Arabic, it is a cursive script with letters connected within words.

See picture.

2. Phonetics and Sounds:

Arabic: Arabic has a rich phonetic system with sounds that may be challenging for non-native speakers, such as guttural sounds like “ayn” and “ghayn”.
Hebrew: Hebrew also has unique sounds, including consonants that are pronounced differently based on their placement within a word.

3. Vocabulary and Grammar:

Arabic: Arabic vocabulary is largely derived from triliteral roots, where patterns of consonants convey meaning. It has a complex system of verb conjugation and noun declension which is the case displayed in this verse that you are grossly ignorant of.


Hebrew: Hebrew vocabulary is also rooted in triliteral roots, but its grammar differs in some aspects, such as the use of gender and number agreement.


In context is the Quran revealed in Arabic difficult to understand by native Arabic speakers of Arabia in whose language it was revealed?

Still irrelevant to the discussion as both of them Hebrew and Arabic are both semitic language which though different, but they belong to the same family and thus share many rules of Grammar, Syntax and Vocabularies together.


Again, if it is indeed true that Allah made the Qur'an simple, why do we need hundreds of books to understand it.

honesttalk21:
You always come to wrong conclusions as you try display intelligence with pride.
Was the Quran not revealed to Arabians who spoke good undiluted arabic?

Did you consult an arabic speaking expert on the verse? Obviously not. Relying on an inadequate word translation to interpret.

Produce an accepted translation of the meaning of the Quran that translates as you say.

Do you think that because your Bible is a result of multiple language translations that appear to have lost some if the core sane can be applied to the Quran.

Praise be to Allah that the Quran is most popularly available in the language of revelation; arabic, eliminating the likelihood if loosing meaning in translations.

Is it a lie that your Bible book consists of Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, Latin, Syriac and English language translations?

The process of translating ancient texts like the Bible involves not only linguistic challenges but also cultural and historical ones. Certain concepts or ideas that were clear to the original audience may be difficult to convey accurately to a modern reader. This can result in a loss of some core truths or teachings present in the original text.

One common example is the use of idioms or expressions that have no direct equivalent in other languages. For instance, the phrase “the apple of my eye” in English is an idiom that means someone or something cherished above all others. Translating this directly into another language without an equivalent idiom could lead to a loss of meaning or misinterpretation.

In the study of translations from semantic languages of revelation, such as the original Hebrew and Greek texts of the Bible, to modern languages, there is a recognized challenge in accurately conveying the full depth and nuances of the original text. This challenge becomes even more pronounced when dealing with concepts that are deeply rooted in cultural and historical contexts, such as those found in religious scriptures like the Bible. One area where this issue is particularly evident is in the potential loss or distortion of core truths during the process of translation.

Mr Honesttalk21,
You seem to forget that Arabic and Hebrew are highly related linguistically.
How may times do you see a Christian hide under claims that Hebrew cannot be translated into another language.

This is a weak argument sir!

Except if Allah is a Tribal God who speaks only one language and can only be related to with one language. How is it different from Amadioha or Ogun or Sango that has to be worshipped in the local dialect.

I asked a simple question
1. Is it untrue that Allah says that the Qur'an is easy to understand?

If it is true, why do you Muslims have to reinterpete whatever Allah says to fit the consensus of your scholars?

honesttalk21:
أَخَذُوا مُعَلِّمِيهِمْ وَأُسْاتِذَتِهِمْ كَمُرَشِّدِينَ بِجَانِبِ عَلِيٍّ وَالْمَلِكِ، ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ

They took their teachers and teachers as guides alongside Ali and the king, the son of Mary

The translation :
"They took their teachers and professors as mentors other than Ali and the king, the son of Mary."
Here is your translation (modified)
They took their teachers and professors as guides alongside Ali and the king, the son of Mary

Do you agree that the word "مِن دُونِ" (min dooni= Other than) has synonyms like سوى (sawa) - Apart from OR غير (ghayr) - Other than or Instead of

The word "مِن دُونِ" (min dooni) does NOT mean alongside

Mr honesttalk21, your Arabic is better that this, why tell lies that مِن دُونِ mean alongside ?
Must you defend Islam with lies to feel good?
Your Soul is at Risk o: don't find out when it is too late!


Do you clearly see that the meaning is that:
the Subject (they) took their teachers and professors as mentors INSTEAD of taking Ali and the King the son of Mary as their Mentors


OR
Instead of the Subject(they) to take Ali and the king son of Mary as Mentors, they took their teachers and Professors as mentors

Is this interpretation above Wrong?

honesttalk21:
This statement highlights seeking guidance from knowledgeable and wise individuals in various aspects of life.

In a literal translation, the phrase speaks to the act of seeking guidance from teachers, mentors, and leaders. It emphasizes the value of learning from those who possess expertise and experience, as well as from those who hold positions of authority and influence. By positioning these figures alongside Ali and the king - symbolic of righteousness and power, respectively - the phrase suggests that true guidance comes from a combination of knowledge, wisdom, and leadership.

Metaphorically, the phrase can be interpreted as a call to align oneself with individuals who embody characteristics of guidance and direction. Whether in the realm of education, spirituality, or governance, it emphasizes the importance of surrounding oneself with mentors and leaders who can provide support and insight. By recognizing the value of seeking advice and counsel from those who possess wisdom and authority, one can navigate through life's challenges with clarity and purpose.

Now that I have translated and discussed the sentence tell me the point to it and it's relevance to this discussion

I did not ask you for all these because this is just a simple exercise in Arabic text that has no hidden meaning.

honesttalk21:
Here is the linguistic analysis and translation of the text:

ٱتَّخَذُوٓاْ أَحۡبَارَهُمۡ وَرُهۯنَهُمۡ أَرۡبَابٗا مِّن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ
They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allāh,
They have taken their rabbis as hostages to lords other than Allah.
Translation: “They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah.”
Linguistic Analysis: This part of the verse highlights the warning against elevating religious figures to a status equal to or above Allah.
وَٱلۡمَسِيحَ ٱبۡنَ مَرۯيَمَ
And the Messiah, the son of Mary
Translation: “And [they have taken] the Messiah, the son of Mary.”
Linguistic Analysis: This section refers to Jesus Christ, emphasizing that even revered figures like Jesus should not be worshipped alongside or instead of Allah.
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And they were not commanded except to worship One God
Translation: “And they were not commanded except to worship one God.”
Linguistic Analysis: This part underscores the core message of monotheism in Islam, emphasizing the worship of only one true God.
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There is no god but Him. Glory be to Him, for He forbids what they associate with Him.
Translation:
“There is no deity except Him; exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.”
Linguistic Analysis: The verse concludes by reiterating the concept of Tawhid (the oneness of God) and emphasizing Allah’s uniqueness and transcendence above any partners or associates.
In summary, this verse from the Quran serves as a reminder to uphold monotheism and worship only Allah without associating partners with Him, including revered figures like scholars, monks, or even prophets like Jesus.

1. Are you falsifying the Qur'an verses below

Quran 19:97
So We have made this (Qur'an) easy in your tongue that you may give good news to those who take heed, and warn the people who are contentious.

Qur'an 54:22
"And We have certainly made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember. So, is there anyone who will be mindful?"


I can see that the direct words of Allah has to be patched up with linguistic analysis before it can make sense.
Do you agree with this?

You see why I say that you Muslims believe more in the consensus of your scholars than Allah or even Mohammed.


2. There is a way I normally use to expose the Falsehood of Muslims, therefore, I challenge you to translate truthfully and accurately the Arabic text below

Can you help me to translate this Arabic text to English?
أَخَذُوا مُعَلِّمِيهِمْ وَأُسْاتِذَتِهِمْ كَمُرَشِّدِينَ بِجَانِبِ عَلِيٍّ وَالْمَلِكِ، ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ


Shaitan is still learning when Muslims tell lies to protect their Allah, Mohammed and their religion!

Afonja2000:
This my female colleague at work received a call from a female Police officer by name officer angel.

She informed her that her husband brought a complaint against her to the station and as a result her presence is required at the station.

It was when she got home tonight that the police Invitation was handed to her by a co-tenant.

Right now, she is contemplating if she should honor the invitation or not as she is not sure if the Nigerian police can be trusted.

From what I could gather concerning her and her husband is that they have been married for less than two years. The foundation of the marriage was built on lies. The husband pretended to be what he wasn't during their courtship, which unfortunately lasted less than three months.

My colleague for reasons I'm yet to understand failed to make all the necessary enquiry concerning the man she was getting married to.

The man has been married before in which the first wife died as a result of maltreatment from the man and his family members especially from his mother and his elder sisters.

My colleague saw a completely different man from what she thought that she got married to in less than a month after their white wedding.
She was always treated like a slave by her mother in law and two of her daughters with broken marriages.

The husband always accused her of having extra marital affairs with no tangible evidence to back it up and usually have her locked out of their rented apartment.

This is actually the first time she stood up to her husband and the next thing he did was to report her to the police.

Tell her to report herself at the police station AND she must go with a lawyer (for advise as she would ba asked to write a statement)

honesttalk21:
I believe some brother addressed your mistaken translation and not understanding how verbs and subjects are used or placed in Arabic sentence.

The verse correctly denotes taking scholars,monks and Jesus as God besides Allah.

Just as you want people to take you ill informed saying and poor research as the truth.

Muslims can tell lies for shaitan and even satan will blush

See the attachment below and tell me it doesn't say AND THE MESSIAH







The problem of you Muslims is that you care not a hoot about the Truth!

All these to avoid being quoted properly!?

AntiChristian:
Okay!
Al-Haafiz Ibn Katheer (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
That is, the way he saw the sun was as if it was setting in the ocean, which is something that happens to everyone who stands on the shore: he sees the sun as if it is setting into the sea, when in fact it does not leave the celestial path on which it is firmly established.
End quote from Tafseer al-Qur’an al-Kareem (5/191) So he found the people near such place!

It seems you forget that the sun always set in the horizon whether on land or on the sea.
Did Dhul qarnayn also found the people at or is it near the Horizon?



Simple questions like this is what is used to sift between truth and lies. Allah says that Dhul qarnayn found a people near the place where the sun set.

Except the people were at the horizon : is this the case?

AntiChristian:
Imam at-Tabari (may Allah have mercy on him) said: The commentators differed as to what is meant by at-taraa’ib and where they are located. Some said that the word at-taraa’ib refers to the place where the necklace goes on a woman’s chest. This was narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas, ‘Ikrimah and others.

Others said that the taraa’ib is the area between the shoulders and the chest. This was narrated from Mujaahid and others among the early generation.

Yet others said that what is meant is that it emerges from between a man’s back and upper chest. This was narrated from Qataadah.

And there were other opinions which suggested that it refers to the arms, legs or eyes, or that it refers to the ribs that are below the back, or that it refers to the essence of the heart.

Then he – i.e., at-Tabari (may Allah have mercy on him) – said: The correct view concerning that, in our opinion, is the view of those who said that it is the place where the necklace goes on a woman’s chest, because that is the well-known usage in the Arabic language and in Arabic poetry.

I think you can see very clearly from your references that
The taraa’ib is used specifically in Arabic to depict the rib bones of a woman at the necklace region?

Meaning that your explanations were very off target!


Where is is the place where the necklace goes on a woman’s chest?

AntiChristian:
Yes, Prophet-King David gave birth to Prophet-King Sulaiman!

But you said that your Suleiman is NOT the same as the Solomon of the Bible.

You said :
"How is this not possible? The Solomon in the Qur'an is not same as the one in your Bible. Prophet Sulaiman was a wise man whom Allah grants the control of the Jinns and many other creatures of Allah, even the wind!

So the Jinns and creatures under his command obey him without fail and he has the authority to punish any of them. So it's very possible he died and none of them knew because they were afraid of him!"


Can you then explain how, the King David of the Bible gave birth to another Sulaiman who was a king of Israel?

AntiChristian:
The verse was revealed to stop slave prostitution!
'' Al-A`mash narrated from Abu Sufyan that Jabir said concerning this Ayah, "This was revealed about a slave-girl belonging to `Abdullah bin Ubayy bin Salul whose name was Musaykah. He used to force her to commit immoral actions, but there was nothing wrong with her and she refused.

It is not abrogated!

The verse was revealed to moderate prostitution. In other words, Allah was setting rules for prostitution for Muslims with the following rules
1. Don't force your slaves into prostitution IF your slaves do not want it.
2. However , if you Muslim men FORCE them, Allah will forgive you.

At least you are truthful that the verse isn't abrogated!

This verse gives permission for Muslim men to be Pim.ps as Allah will forgive you if you do.

Do you now agree that Allah support Prostitution?

AntiChristian:
The above verse is an order from Allaah to whoever is not able to marry to abstain from illegal sexual relations, like the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) said: "O young people, whoever is able to marry should marry, and whoever is not able to do so, he should fast, as fasting diminishes his sexual desires." Then the verse advised those who own slaves to make a contract with those slaves who seek such a contract to pay money in order to emancipate themselves.

However, it is not permissible for a woman to commit Zina (adultery or fornication) whether she is a slave woman or a free woman, and it is not permissible for her master to allow her to do so; rather, he is obliged to prevent her from committing Zina according to his ability. This verse was revealed to clarify what used to happen at that time as some hypocrites, like ‘Abdullaah ibn Ubay ibn Salool, used to compel their slave girls to commit Zina so that they would bring them some money, so the verse prohibited them from doing so.

There were two parts to the verse
1. An advice on marriage
2. An advise on conducting prostitution

AntiChristian:
Al-Haafiz Ibn Katheer (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
That is, the way he saw the sun was as if it was setting in the ocean, which is something that happens to everyone who stands on the shore: he sees the sun as if it is setting into the sea, when in fact it does not leave the celestial path on which it is firmly established.
End quote from Tafseer al-Qur’an al-Kareem (5/191) So he found the people near such place!

Did Dhul qarnayn find the people close to the horizon?

Don't forget that horizon exist everywhere on the earth (sea or land)!






The problem of you Muslims is that you care not a hoot about the Truth!

Pitiful at best. Ba answer!?

AntiChristian:
I know you will still repeat the same thing! And I will repeat the same thing as you did!

I asked you questions that you fled from

AntiChristian:
Allah never said such verbatim! You lied!
With regard to the words of Allah, may He be exalted, in the story of Dhu’l-Qarnayn (interpretation of the meaning): “Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water” [al-Kahf 18:86], the commentators said that what is meant is to depict the scene that appeared before him, for he saw it on the horizon of the sea, as if it were sinking into it at the time of setting. The Holy Qur’an does not tell us that this was something that happnened in a real sense; hence Allah, may He be glorified, said “he found it setting” and He did not say “it was setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water.”

Al-Haafiz Ibn Katheer (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
That is, he way he saw the sun was as if it was setting in the ocean, which is something that happens to everyone who stands on the shore: he sees the sun as if it is setting into the sea, when in fact it does not leave the celestial path on which it is firmly established.
End quote from Tafseer al-Qur’an al-Kareem (5/191)

How come Dhul qarnayn found a people near it(where the sun set) ?

It's a simple question!

AntiChristian:
This is another lie from you. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Proceeding from between the back-bone (as-sulb) and the ribs (at-taraa’ib)”, and He did not say that it proceeds from the back-bone (as-sulb) and the ribs (at-taraa’ib). And that is the origin of the male testes and Ovaries as discovered by modern medicine!

Is it untrue that the taraa’ib is used specifically in Arabic to depict the rib bones of a woman at the necklace region?

AntiChristian:
How is this not possible? The Solomon in the Qur'an is not same as the one in your Bible. Prophet Sulaiman was a wise man whom Allah grants the control of the Jinns and many other creatures of Allah, even the wind!

So the Jinns and creatures under his command obey him without fail and he has the authority to punish any of them. So it's very possible he died and none of them knew because they were afraid of him!

Is the father of the Suleiman in the Qur'an David the king of Israel?

AntiChristian:
Allah has permitted many acts before that is now forbidden!
Adam married Eve who is technically his daughter as she was created from him!
Cain married his sister!
Other sons of Adam will of course marry their sisters!
And in your Bible Genesis 38, Judah impregnated a prostitute who happens to be his daughter in law giving birth to one of the ancestors of Jesus Christ! God didn't punish Judah as He did kill his sons (Er and Onan) who did evil in his sight..

In short, God permitted the harlotry and adultery in Genesis 38!

And more so, we can also discuss what the soldiers did with the 32, 000 virgins of war captives in Numbers 31 of which Yahweh got 32 as tribute!

Has this verse been abrogated by Allah

Qur'an 24:33
Those who cannot afford to marry should abstain from what is unlawful until God enriches them by His grace. And free those slaves you possess who wish to buy their freedom after a written undertaking, if you know they have some goodness, and give them out of the riches God has given you. Do not force your maids to prostitution if they wish to lead married lives, in order to get the benefits of this world. But if someone forces them, surely God (will forgive them) after their forced helplessness, for He is forgiving and kind.


Such simple questions!

honesttalk21:
Worn out?

Who has repeatedly at least twice that we end other than you?

There's no break as long as I live and to ensure the Dajjal in you doesn't mislead my brothers and sisters in the deen or any you can overwhelm with your gish galloping.

Bring it on!

Why should I follow your messiah in place of Allah? Is Allah or God not greater than your messianic claim

Is this a mistake by Allah in the Qur'an?


Qur'an 9:31
They (Jews and Christians) have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah and the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.

webincomeplus:
"My names are" is used by clowns who think doing everything differently makes them appear smart.

1. A human name for ages has been known to be a single entity that comprises multiple components: the first name, the middle name for additional specificity, and the surname. All these make up a "name". So, saying "my names are" is wrong!

2. If I ask you what the name of your school is, you'll say "Federal University of Technology, Owerri" (just an example). Does it make sense to say, "the names of my school are Federal University..." just because the name comprises multiple words?

3. For those who did Biology and Agricultural Science in secondary school, the botanical name of a plant, for example, always has 2 parts. Yet, your teachers and textbooks never referred to a plant's botanical name as "botanical names" just because it has two parts.

4. The only instance when saying "my names are" could be correct is when someone asks you to list out all the names you were given. Then it's correct to say, "My names are Michael, Olugbenga, Adam, Chukwudifu, and Williams". Note the use of commas (or numbering as the case might be).

5. You won't even hear "my names are" from native English speakers.

Excellente!

Only dummies wouldn't understand this clear explanation.

Kudos...

AntiChristian:
Allah never said such verbatim! You lied!
With regard to the words of Allah, may He be exalted, in the story of Dhu’l-Qarnayn (interpretation of the meaning): “Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water” [al-Kahf 18:86], the commentators said that what is meant is to depict the scene that appeared before him, for he saw it on the horizon of the sea, as if it were sinking into it at the time of setting. The Holy Qur’an does not tell us that this was something that happnened in a real sense; hence Allah, may He be glorified, said “he found it setting” and He did not say “it was setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water.”

Al-Haafiz Ibn Katheer (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
That is, he way he saw the sun was as if it was setting in the ocean, which is something that happens to everyone who stands on the shore: he sees the sun as if it is setting into the sea, when in fact it does not leave the celestial path on which it is firmly established.
End quote from Tafseer al-Qur’an al-Kareem (5/191)

You forgot that Allah was reporting a story and it wasn't Dhul qarnayn and Allah is precise in Arabic.

My friend, how did Allah say Dhul Qarnayn found a people there (at the place where the sun set) ?

Did Dhul Qarnayn also appear to find a people at the setting place of the sun?

Read your Quran!

AntiChristian:
This is another lie from you. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Proceeding from between the back-bone (as-sulb) and the ribs (at-taraa’ib)”, and He did not say that it proceeds from the back-bone (as-sulb) and the ribs (at-taraa’ib). And that is the origin of the male testes and Ovaries as discovered by modern medicine!

Mr AntiChristian,
It seems you don't
The taraa’ib is used specifically in Arabic to depict the rib bones of a woman at the necklace region.

Why did your prophet say that the water of the man is white and thick while that of the woman is yellow and thin?

Allah and his Apostle know best!

AntiChristian:
How is this not possible? The Solomon in the Qur'an is not same as the one in your Bible. Prophet Sulaiman was a wise man whom Allah grants the control of the Jinns and many other creatures of Allah, even the wind!

So the Jinns and creatures under his command obey him without fail and he has the authority to punish any of them. So it's very possible he died and none of them knew because they were afraid of him!

For once you told the truth.
Suleiman in the Qur'an is different from King Solomon in the Bible.

Is David in the Qur'an the same as the Father of Suleiman?

Because King David is the Father of king Solomon in the Bible.

Nevertheless,
Please explain how come the wives of Sulaiman did not notice that he died for almost one year?

How come his chiefs and subjects for almost a year come daily to the Palace and did not ask for their king?

AntiChristian:
Allah has permitted many acts before that is now forbidden!
Adam married Eve who is technically his daughter as she was created from him!
Cain married his sister!
Other sons of Adam will of course marry their sisters!
And in your Bible Genesis 38, Judah impregnated a prostitute who happens to be his daughter in law giving birth to one of the ancestors of Jesus Christ! God didn't punish Judah as He did kill his sons (Er and Onan) who did evil in his sight..

In short, God permitted the harlotry and adultery in Genesis 38!

And more so, we can also discuss what the soldiers did with the 32, 000 virgins of war captives in Numbers 31 of which Yahweh got 32 as tribute!

Allah permits prostitution!?
Tell me how can this be God?

Allah also not in nly permit prostitution, he gave you manual of being a love-vendor: don't tell me that this is abrogated too. I find no where where it is prohibited till today.

Qur'an 24:33
Those who cannot afford to marry should abstain from what is unlawful until God enriches them by His grace. And free those slaves you possess who wish to buy their freedom after a written undertaking, if you know they have some goodness, and give them out of the riches God has given you. Do not force your maids to prostitution if they wish to lead married lives, in order to get the benefits of this world. But if someone forces them, surely God (will forgive them) after their forced helplessness, for He is forgiving and kind.