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Maynmann:
That’s the meaning. It’s a Greek word not mine.

Bacteriologist:
Having observed a lot of ignorant definition of Atheism and Atheists from Theists, I find it will be of great help to aid everyone in understanding what Atheism really means.

Let's start with what Atheism is not:


Atheism is NOT a belief. Atheism is a complete, total and absolute LACK OF BELIEF in all gods, goddesses and deities. Atheism is a rejection of belief and so therefore does not, in itself, require belief or faith as that would be illogical. You do not believe that Unicorns or leprechauns exist, do you? That's exactly how Atheism is, too.





So there, Theists, is what you need to stop making up ridiculous conclusions about Atheists and atheism in general every now and then.

Atheists feel free to add other hasty generalisations about Atheism from theists that are often false.

Maynmann:
That’s the meaning. It’s a Greek word not mine.

LordReed:
No they are not atheists just like babies are not atheists.

Maynmann:
the origin of the word says so.

LordReed:
LoLz. So in other words an AGNOSTIC atheist is actually a GNOSTIC atheist according to TenQ. OK thanks. Bwahahahahaha!

Maynmann:
The different between atheism and theism is the “dis”

LordReed:
Just tell me how an AGNOSTIC atheist is expressing GNOSTIC knowledge.

Maynmann:
What does aTHIESM mean?

HellVictorinho4:
An atheist is a person that doesn't believe in God.

HellVictorinho4:
Worship is the expression of the belief in God by doing something noteworthy to show you believe or intending to show you believe.

Maynmann:
What does aTHEISM mean?

Maynmann:
Theism means BELIEVE,.

Maynmann:
Bwahahaha, it seems you don’t what “theism” is .
Theism means BELIEVE, when you go further to WORSHIP you fall in this categories.

Maynmann:
I own no God.

HellVictorinho4:
The baby doesn't possess knowledge of certain things just like the adult.


But the adult has passed through more though the adult might have a deformity that doesn't allow him or her to express his or her experience correctly.


Anyways, the baby also lacks belief in what he or she has not accepted to be specifically true without proof such as the existence of God which nobody can prove to have heard or seen anything about as an infant till he or she accepted the existence of such without the 'heard or seen something' being a proof.


Summary is there is no proof of any infant possessing any belief



Religious persuasion is different from lack of belief.

You don't need religious persuasion to lack belief.


The baby is an atheist whether or not the parents are atheists.

If I'm wrong ,why can't anyone including the Dtruthspeaker and TenQ prove their babies have the belief?

Maynmann:
Yes god is a title.
So tell me your deity?

Maynmann:
Theist means you BELIEVE in god/gods, as atheist means disbelief
So If you are particular about that god and you now WORSHIP that god out of other gods you are either a monolatrist or practicing hedonism.

Maynmann:
And God/god/GOD means same.

Maynmann:
What about Theist?

TenQ:
It is not even required by definition that a Theist worship any deity: it is sufficient for them to acknowledge their existence.

If you turn the above around

It is not required by definition that an Atheist NOT worship any deity: it is sufficient for them to refuse to acknowledge their existence.

Maynmann:
And what’s a theist?

Heard of theology?

Maynmann:
So when they call someone atheist, it means they don’t Believe in the Christian god?
Or they don’t believe in any god?

Maynmann:
God/Gods comes from Theos.

You can see from aTHIEST.
And it’s a title not a person.

So which particular god?
And hope you know you are a monolatrist?

Maynmann:
Atheist from atheos.
The term theism derives from the Greek theos or theoi meaning "god" or "gods".

LordReed:
It is not. It is, in general, the LACK OF BELIEF in the idea of god(s), specific atheists may express disbelief in the idea of god(s).

LordReed:
No, a belief is formed when the information is regarded as sufficient to reach a conclusion. Of course no one has absolute knowledge.

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LordReed:
No, a belief is formed when the information is regarded as sufficient to reach a conclusion. Of course no one has absolute knowledge.

LordReed:
LoLz. You are like a kid trying to push a square block into a round hole. How can an AGNOSTIC atheist be in a GNOSTIC state of knowledge of god(s)? It seems for you words only have the meaning you give them.

LordReed:
Of course it is based on incomplete information that's why we are ignoramuses on the question of whether god(s) exist and that's is why we lack belief. Why would we form a belief on incomplete information?

LordReed:
Wrong again. In other to form a belief you need information. If the information is not sufficient then a belief cannot be formed.

LordReed:
No it is not. One could argue that that maybe DISBELIEF is tantamount to gnostic knowledge since the assumption is you know enough to actively disbelieve what is otherwise fact. Lack of belief does not make a claim to knowledge so cannot be gnotic in any form. Matter of fact many people who would hold this position would consider themselves AGNOSTIC atheists.

Neither since I KNOW that 2+5 = 7 not 25 and 2+5=25 is not a fact.

HellVictorinho4:
How is ignorance the reason for lack of belief and how is lack of belief a choice?

Babies are atheists....... even if LordReed says otherwise.

evangmx:
I just lost my job like 2 months ago. I use my car to do can work. My wife works as well. And we have 2 children.

I want you to tell me the truth am I doing bad or good?

I pay all the bills at home, I still give out 15k every week for food.

But my wife still complain. I don't know what she use her salary to do. All I know is that she use to wear new cloth every Sunday and new shoes. And buys cloth for the children once in a while.

Pls tell me if am doing bad.

LordReed:
Unless words no longer have the meanings we attribute to them then it is impossible for lack of belief to also be "a POSITION of BELIEF". A lack of something cannot by any stretch of the imagination also be the something that is in lack eg lack of food cannot also be food.

LordReed:
Ok

LordReed:
Wrong. You don't need complete knowledge to lack the belief as you have already showed with the baby. In the atheist case it is basically that the proposition "god(s) exist" has not being sufficiently demonstrated to the point where an atheist will gain the knowledge of such of god(s). If the atheist has no knowledge of the god(s), how can he then at the same time have the knowledge of the god(s)? It's impossible.

LordReed:
Also lack of belief is not disbelief. Disbelief is an active rejection of a fact. If you said here look, my dog is sitting over in that room and indeed the dog was there but I still said I don't believe you, that would be disbelief. On the other hand if you said you had a dog but when I ask you where it is you mumbled some incoherent thing and I said well I'll wait to see the dog before I believe you, that is lack of belief. They sound the same but they are not. To be clear some atheists do say they actively disbelieve in all forms of god(s), I am not one of them so I couldn’t tell you how they arrived at their position.

LordReed:
Yes an atheist is an ignoramus concerning god(s) since no facts concerning the existence of god(s) can be sufficiently demonstrated.

LordReed:
A baby has no concept of god(s) so cannot actively participate in the debate.

LordReed:
And no, lack of belief is not the same of gnostic knowledge since it carries no claim to knowledge in the first place.

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Lighthouse50:
Dear readers, Acts 1 vs 8 says 'and you shall receive power when the holyspirit falls on you. Then you will be my witness from jerusalem to the uttermost part of the earth' Holyspirit is needed to receive power. Please how do one get the holyspirit? How long does it take to get it? Those who have gotten it, can you tell us your experience. Waiting for responses.

Bacteriologist:
Having observed a lot of ignorant definition of Atheism and Atheists from Theists, I find it will be of great help to aid everyone in understanding what Atheism really means.

Let's start with what Atheism is not:

First, Atheism is NOT a religion. Religion is the belief in or worship of a supernatural/higher power. Which is exactly what atheists NEVER do. So, dear theists, again, Atheism is not a religion.

Atheism is NOT a belief. Atheism is a complete, total and absolute LACK OF BELIEF in all gods, goddesses and deities. Atheism is a rejection of belief and so therefore does not, in itself, require belief or faith as that would be illogical. You do not believe that Unicorns or leprechauns exist, do you? That's exactly how Atheism is, too.

Atheism DOES NOT offer explanation for the origin of the world. Being an atheist DOES NOT mean that one automatically accepts the big bang theory, or big crunch or "something from nothing." Some Atheists believe in the big bang while some others simply state that "We do not know YET how the universe came to be." Which seems to be pretty honest since no one knows for sure how the Universe started. So, beloved theists, Atheism is a total rejection of the belief that any god exists.

Atheism is NOT satanism: Rejection of belief in a supernatural god also includes rejection of belief in a supernatural devil. Get it, theists? God does not exist, same applies to Satan. We're not Satanists, we're atheists.

LASTLY, Satan is NOT an atheist: Satan is a fictitious deity who by definition has been "god's friend" according to most religion. So, literally, Satan is a theist and it makes it really stupid to say Satan does not believe God exists.


So there, Theists, is what you need to stop making up ridiculous conclusions about Atheists and atheism in general every now and then.

Atheists feel free to add other hasty generalisations about Atheism from theists that are often false.