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Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by TenQ: 1:17pm On Nov 07, 2021
Kholiwe:
So In a nutshell we will become robots? New nature seems like a cover up for robots.
At your age, do you obey your parents by your free will or by compulsion of koboko?
Christianity Etc › Re: She Wants Me To Leave Catholic Church Before She Can Marry Me by TenQ: 12:38pm On Nov 07, 2021
KoladeChris24:
I have this girl who is the only one I love, but she said she can never attend catholic church.

I told her it's not an issue - that as my wife, she's free to attend any church she likes, but she insisted our family would have to attend the same church.

She won't marry me if i stick to my Catholic faith. Please advise me, she's the only one I love, and I can't start over anymore.
Why do you deliberately want to bring problem into your life.
Have you also asked her how she wants to raise her children? Do you think she will mind if they are raised as Catholics?

Just as you are strongly opinuated about your church, so she is. It's a disaster waiting to happen. She probably doesn't see you as Born Again anyway!

Marriage doesn't succeed based on love alone o!
A word is enough to the wise!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by TenQ: 12:34pm On Nov 07, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:
Now your statement is cancelled by the Fact and Truth that, people do rebelled against their parents according to their thinkings. As Esau, Eli's children, Samuel's children, etc proved.

Therefore, your statement here does not stand.
In other words, you as a person by default is decided to be unruly, disobedient, and rebellious to your parent so I can understand your position.

Some of us have a healthy relationship with our parents that it is unthinkable and impossible for us to be rebellious, unruly or disobedient to them (even in their imperfections as parents). Therefore, if our relationship with an imperfect human parent is like this, how much more our Perfect Heavenly Father.

Honestly, I can understand the positions of sons of Belial. Their character here on earth is terrible and they will mess up paradise if they are allowed in.

I guess that is why not everyone on earth will be permitted to enter paradise.

Truly, I understand your position!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by TenQ: 11:11am On Nov 07, 2021
Kholiwe:
Care to explain the bold? Meaning we are now robots?
Have you ever thought of hurting your parents?
Why not?

Is it not because they are REAL to you as careing and loving to you (in spite of their inadequacies)?

Same here.
God will be TOO REAL to us. It wouldn't require FAITH to Love and Trust Him.

Do you think it is part of your plan to rebel against your parents in the future?

We are not Robots. Our new nature make us effortlessly swing in line with God because our faith is based on a FULL RELATIONSHIP with God
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by TenQ: 10:23am On Nov 07, 2021
AntiChristian:
Lucifer aka Satan and his kind are not Angels. They are Jinns.

Humans and Jinns have freewill!

Angels have no freewill.

In Paradise, the lust and worries of this world will be lost! No more bad talks, bad thoughts, etc. The prevailing freewill is to attune the world of enjoyment awarded to you.
Can you know better!!??
No!

Your Qur'an isn't detailed on anything spiritual.

You don't know that the scriptures before yours spoke about
1 God as a Spirit
2. angels of God and
Fallen angels
...and Principalities, Powers, Spiritual wicked spirits in high places
3. Cherubims, Seraphims and other heavenly beings
4. Unclean Spirits, Familiar Spirits, Demons
5. Even human beings have their spirit component

All you know is Jinns. No wonder you are confused.

What other kinds of spirits do you know apart from Jinns?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Freewill In Heaven? by TenQ: 10:15am On Nov 07, 2021
Kholiwe:
Just out of curiosity is there freewill in heaven?
Yes!
If Angels have freewill, how much more children. Freewill isn't a curse, it is a blessing.


The difference is that sources of temptations may not abound since you have whatever you need in paradise.
Secondly, you have a new nature that desires to please and honour God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Necessary To Baptize Again After Changing Church? by TenQ:
Etizz:
Blessed Sunday to you guys, A friend of mine who has Baptiste before in a different church decided to switch to another church entirely, but the pastor of the new church insisted that he must Baptiste again.

My friend is a worker in church (drummer), he stopped going to church because the pastor refused to pray for him and also refused issue him a certificate as a worker in the church because he did not Baptiste in the church....

My question is, after baptism, do you have to Baptiste again because one have to change church?
SOme churches are particular of the nature of baptism
1. Baptism by Immersion
2. Baptism by Sprinkling

As a person, I think Baptism should be by immersion.

If your friend will not go to church because a pastor said unless he is baptized, is he truly born again?
Why dont he go to another church where he would be accepted?

Every church have their own rules, if you are not comfortable with theirs, join another church
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Who Is Born Again Not Know The Date He Or She Was Born Again? by TenQ: 8:58am On Nov 07, 2021
cutecommend:
Many people know the actually date they were born again. But for someone who don't know the actual date, but can remember the encounter, should we put such people aside?. Knowing the actual date of ones salvation is not a compulsory proof of salvation but it's essential . If I may ask? Those very uneducated people who got born again in the villages those early days, do they remember dates? or do they even know about dates? Someone may know the period he or she got born again, or may know the encounters and scenarios, but may not know the actual date. A proof of salvation is a change of life in which others can see the crystal clear evidence of Christ's nature in you....

If you are very sure you are saved, and can remember the year, month, scenarios and encounter, but cannot remember the actual date, don't think you are not saved if someone says you must compulsorily know the actual date.

Knowing the actual date of salvation is a very good job thing. It is good for references and accountability of ones progress in faith. But it is not a compulsory proof of salvation. The only compulsory proof of salvation is a clear change of ways; not doing the sinful things you did before; all by the enabling power of Jesus Christ in you after accepting Him.

Happy Sunday.
I am born Again.
I can tell you how I got Born Again and the experience of what happened.

I don't know the month
I don't know the day
I don't know the date
I don't know the time
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 8:04am On Nov 07, 2021
Workch:
we don’t understand dark matter yet.

Wait and don’t make stuffs up.

Law of thermodynamics in the quantum world is tricky, an observer doesn’t see them obeyed.

This is basic quantum physics and it’s not my problem if you are stuck in 1900 physics
I am not asking you to repeat meaningless rhetorics on top of LIES
I asked you a basic Question

Let me test your comprehension of simple physics:
Does Dark Matter disobey the law of Thermodynamics?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 7:20am On Nov 07, 2021
Workch:
Shut up and stick to what we know. Don’t try to make things up.
That’s what religion does with god, making jargons up because we don’t know yet.

It’s better not to know that to assume nonsense. What’s difficult in waiting until we find out before making stuffs up
Common sense tells us to tread with CAUTION with respect to warnings when you are not sure UNTIL adequate evidence show the contrary

Example:'
Don't put your hand into that hole, a snake is inside

Response 1:
No one has seen any snake, therefore we should stick our hands inside
Response 2:
Even though no one has seen the snake, it may or may not be there lets not just stick our hands inside

What you really don't know yet is Physics check your quote below and not about God
Workch:
You don’t know anything, most laws of physics that lay people like you know breaks down in the quantum world.
We don’t even know if Energy is conserved in the quantum world, we understand it poorly, some speculate that Heisenberg uncertainty principle enforces conservation while others think the spooky action (quantum entanglement) will account for conservation but we are still not sure that energy is conserved in the quantum field. To an observer, Energy is not conserved in the quantum world, maybe in the future we might understand it better and find out that it’s conserved.
Until tomorrow, no one understand quantum physics, it surprises us everyday. Imagine not being able to account for energy conservation. Even the Newton’s law of motion you are always quoting doesn’t work there.

So stop all this your old-fashioned physics and read more
Yours is a REJECTION of God and His Light
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 6:58am On Nov 07, 2021
Workch:
illiterate, dark matter and energy doesn’t obey basic laws.
We are yet to understand them perfectly as well.

Stop making stuffs up, how can you say dark matter that is an antigravity obeys basics laws.

Stop talking science, just stop talking science. Everytime to try to talk science, you make a mistake
Your seem like a master of lies!
Twisting the truth like your father satan!!!
And I am not surprised, like father like son!

Just like I said in my previous post, you can forever silence falsehood by just Quoting me.
You are trying to hide your lack of comprehension of basic physics with blatant lies!!!!!! ??

Let me test your comprehension of simple physics:
Does Dark Matter disobey the law of Thermodynamics?
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: I Got A Job Offer In Canada, I Need Urgent Advice by TenQ: 10:48am On Nov 06, 2021
kakaflex:
Good Evening Everyone.

I currently work in a company and my monthly take home is 210k. A friend helped me to apply for a Job in Canada, I did the interview Last Month and I was sent a congratulatry message Yesterday from the Company to start work in Canada.

Am having little fears, have not been to Canada, I don't know how they operate, I don't have family there, my friend that applied for me stays in New York.

What if I go and things didn't work out fine, I lose my 210k job and lose Canada job.

Pls should i do. Help
Take your leap of FAITH: it can't be worse than Nigeria. The Opportunity will EXPAND your horizon
Check for both CAQ and LIMA to prevent shedding of tears
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 10:40am On Nov 06, 2021
LordReed:
You sound more like a compatibilist.
I doubt if I want to give myself any label with respect to Freewill and Determinism.
But within the limit of my knowledge and understanding, I have stated (and I think CONSISTENTLY) what Freewill is.

In this world, many things are DETERMINED eg Day and Night, Life and Death, Need to Eat, etc
BUT
So many other things are NOT determined. Disasters, Election Results, Epidemic, Accidents.

Your Freewill Operates irrespective of whether events around you are determined or not determined.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 10:15am On Nov 06, 2021
LordReed:
So do you agree your will is influenced by those external sources?
Of cause, the Will is influenced (but ) NOT determined by every external source.

Every Temptation is a force that influences my will, I determine whether to yield or NOT to the temptation.

I have once fought with a boy who was obviously bigger and older than me. But I took a stand even though I was convinced beyond all reasonable doubt that he could effortlessly beat me up. The question is: why did I CHOOSE not to chicken out of the fight in the face of the obvious?

That is why the definition of FREEWILL is not complete without mentioning the effect of EXTERNAL CONSTRAINTS and INFLUENCES.

Check the Definition from our previous post

TenQ:
No one caused your will: you did.

Check the definition again
Freewill:
A man's Freedom to exercise his power to choose his cause of action within available options and its associated external constraints.
If your definition of freewill is different from this, then you use a wrong yardstick to judge what you probably do not understand.

Any WILL that is CAUSED by someone else is never FREE
Something cannot cause someones will because something is NOT ALIVE

Guns don't kill people, People do!
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 10:06am On Nov 06, 2021
Workch:
You don’t know anything, most laws of physics that lay people like you know breaks down in the quantum world.
We don’t even know if Energy is conserved in the quantum world, we understand it poorly, some speculate that Heisenberg uncertainty principle enforces conservation while others think the spooky action (quantum entanglement) will account for conservation but we are still not sure that energy is conserved in the quantum field. To an observer, Energy is not conserved in the quantum world, maybe in the future we might understand it better and find out that it’s conserved.
Until tomorrow, no one understand quantum physics, it surprises us everyday. Imagine not being able to account for energy conservation. Even the Newton’s law of motion you are always quoting doesn’t work there.

So stop all this your old-fashioned physics and read more
Now because you are NOT sure if ENERGY is CONSERVED in quantum spaces, therefore it is NOT conserved (and I should go and read my old fashioned physics)? Is the First law of thermodynamics a Newton's law?

The first law of thermodynamics seems to be the most basic of all Physics laws and in your wise ignorance, hiding under some vague quantum physics, you claim it has been violated?!!!

Even Dark Matters obey this basic law.

Do you even make sense to yourself?

Your eminence just said that the First law of thermodynamics is NOT valid!? You see why I question your comprehension of simple physics!?

You act just like my dictionary vocabulary school mate who always try to use big English to impress everyone yet Goofing in simple grammar!

This is what you've said in simple terms
ME: Is 3 +4 equal 7?
YOU: No, we cannot be sure because in quantum physics, every known law break down so that 3+4 is not 7
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 12:00am On Nov 06, 2021
A001:
Everything is not part of your god's plan? Your god isn't all-knowing, all-powerful again?
No need to reply a ....
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 11:28pm On Nov 05, 2021
A001:
wink
It is erroneous to claim that EVERYTHING is part of God's plan.
Any premise based on errors is obviously WRONG
Politics › Re: The Challenges Of Being Trans In Nigeria - Al Jazeera by TenQ: 9:44pm On Nov 05, 2021
lalasticlala:
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2021/11/1/i-feel-invisible-the-challenges-of-being-trans-in-nigeria
Sick people who need both psychotherapy and deliverance claiming discrimination!

Common sense even tell us that you cannot expect Cockerels to lay eggs: but in the spirit of wokeness, humans don't know their identity again!
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 9:25pm On Nov 05, 2021
Workch:
you need a basic overhaul
You've started your meaningless rants again!
All you need to do is to use the TRUTH of Science to permanently debunk any of the FOUR claims/statements I have made

TenQ:
1. Is energy also part of NOTHING?

2. You have only made half of the statement: The second part is:
When subatomic particles disappear, they don't vanish in space because they merely appear somewhere else.

3. If they appear and disappear as you have said, then the law of conservation of energy is violated.

4. Is the law of conservation of energy also archaic?
Numbers 1 and 4 are questions to You: probably, you don't have an answer!
Is Number 2 a false statement?
Is Number 3 a false statement?

You can see exactly why I said your words mean NOTHING?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 9:18pm On Nov 05, 2021
LordReed:
You probably have particular foods you like eating and when faced with a choice would more likely pick them over other foods. To you you are freely making that choice however my question is asking, if your ability to choose is part of a causal chain you had no hand in bringing about how do you know you are freely choosing those foods? How do you know that your predilection for those foods is not a result of the causal chain? How do you know that your choice at any given moment was not influenced by the causal chain of events that brought about the situation in which you find yourself having to make a choice?

As for what precipitated the question, I guess I can say it's a question I have been trying to find a way of presenting but didn't have the words till I heard someone ask a similar question.
I think you are watching to much of movies like MATRIX.

You said: If your ability to choose is part of a causal chain you had no hand in bringing about how do you know you are freely choosing those foods?
1. You have no hand in having the ability to CHOOSE
2. Our choices are normally determined by what we LIKE or will Maximise our Pleasure or Minimise our Pain
3. In Spite of these above, a human being CAN deliberately (knowing the consequence) take a CHOICE that he doesn't Like or make choices that minimizes his Pleasure or choices that maximises his discomfort/pain
* This mean that our choices are made ON THE FLY based on the surrounding EXTERNAL constraints
*This is why as humans, we sometimes make personal SACRIFICES for the good of others
*This why there is Reward or Punishment for our kind of CHOICES we make on earth
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 8:51pm On Nov 05, 2021
LordReed:
The question is how do you know?
I think I have answered you.

External events are what predispose me to making my CHOICES.
The external events usually have nothing to do with Me

If I am not in control of the external events that will happen tomorrow, how could it be then that the chain of events that led to my existence (past tense) now left me to to influence what will happen tomorrow (future).

I don't know if tomorrow I will be visited by Fulani Kidnappers or long lost childhood friend.
I don't know if tomorrow a coup will take place in Nigeria to overthrow Buhari
I don't know if a news will come out that my Bank have gone insolvent
I don't know if tomorrow, the Dollar will crash
I don't know if tomorrow, North Korea and China will fire their Nuclear Bomb capable Hypersonic Missile at USA.


To the question again: How do you know your will is not being affected by the chain of events that led to your existence?

Did the chain of events that lead to my existence also predetermined what will happen tomorrow?
The answer is capital NO!

Why?
The Fulani Kidnapper has his independent Will and external circumstances unique to himself alone
The Nigerian Soldiers have their independent Will and external circumstances unique to themselves alone
The managers of my Bank have their independent Will and external circumstances unique to themselves alone
etc.

EXCEPT your CLAIM is that everything that would occur tomorow has already been determined from the past, then Freewill will be meaningless!
Therefore, the things that led to my existence in this world does not affect my future
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 7:53pm On Nov 05, 2021
Workch:
Not my scientist.
I’m also a scientist dude. Though not in physics but this is basic quantum physics.
Something can come from nothing in the quantum world.
In the quantum world, subatomic particles appear and disappear like its magic but we know why they do so, although we still don’t know a lot about some crazy scenarios there.

You need to start doing some proper research dude
Is energy also part of NOTHING?

You have only made half of the statement: The second part is:
When subatomic particles disappear, they don't vanish in space because they merely appear somewhere else.

If they appear and disappear as you have said, then the law of conservation of energy is violated.

Is the law of conservation of energy also archaic?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 7:05pm On Nov 05, 2021
LordReed:
So your will is caused by your being which you obviously didn't will into existence. So another way to put the question will be how do you know your will is not being affected by the chain of events that led to your existence?
Because I have the power to react based on my judgement within the constraints available.

Like, if you slap me, I could retaliate or choose not to retaliate. The constraints available may include whether the person who slapped me is my Father, a Military Officer, an Armed Thug, a Mad Man, My Wife etc

Since my Will cannot cause someone else to slap me, my response is completely passive UNTIL the slap is activated. Even then, if a Military Officer is alone and he ventures to slap me, my response could be different.


In summary:
To the question : So another way to put the question will be how do you know your will is not being affected by the chain of events that led to your existence?
The expression of my Will depend on my Knowledge, Emotion and Intuition all which I ACQUIRED as I grew up in life. For instance, my knowledge as a Christian may prevent me from retaliating a slap even when every logical reasoning says I should retaliate.

It's still my CHOICE except you want to agree that every knowledge a man has has been preprogrammed to happen
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 6:12pm On Nov 05, 2021
Workch:
Sorry, there’s evidence that stuffs exist out of nothing in quantum physics.

I’m not responsible for your ignorance about it
In order words, since you insist that "your scientists" have been able to create matter out of nothing.:
Can you please explain (or point me to the source) how your eminent scientists did the creation?

I believe you know understand how you have replace the God of Creation with the "god of information"!? Nature truely abhor a vacuum!
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 1:20pm On Nov 05, 2021
Workch:
It takes an astronomical amount of evidence in quantum physics to know that stuffs can exist from nothing including the first ever particle.

Evidence will always replace god. God doesn’t like evidence. Wherever you find evidence, god runs away
I perfectly agree with you: It will take an astronomical amount of evidence in quantum physics to know that stuffs can exist from nothing.
Unfortunately, there is not one single evidence yet.
Or knowing that I am prone to not understanding advanced level physics, are their evidence of something coming out of nothing probably from the Large Hadron collider experiment?

Until you find your evidence, you have a god "the god of information" and your faith is in it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 12:47pm On Nov 05, 2021
Workch:
You can’t comprehend that the universe can exist from nothing because you don’t know physics.
In physics that is possible. We have seen particles existing from nothing in the quantum world.
So that law of casualty you want to explain doesn’t apply in every instances. Things can exist without a cause. Quantum physics has that idea.

You need a total overhauling in your ideas, start with basic science
It takes an astronomical amount of FAITH to know that the universe can exist from nothing (except if the definition of nothing has changed).
Unfortunately, I don't have that kind of superhuman Faith.

Nature abhors a vacuum: whenever anyone reject God, he has to replace Him with Something/Someone else!

One day both our faiths will be tested!
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 6:11am On Nov 05, 2021
Workch:
What relevance?

You think I care about someone who doesn’t know basic laws of motion?

You wish cheesy
You remind me of a schoolmate who always looks for "big grammar" from the dictionary to speak but because of his lack of comprehension be breaks every rule of english grammar in the name of sounding sophisticated and thus is always VERBOSE, VAGUE and OUT OF CONTEXT.

It is amazing when someone who claims to know does not recognise when Causality is being discussed.
Please always try to comprehend what you have read before coming online to spew trash!
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 10:01pm On Nov 04, 2021
Workch:
Oga you no sabi science abeg.
Continue your Mumu points and arguements but stop talking about science. I will correct you if I spot another scientific blunder.
Na only vex you to vex, u no go kill me cheesy
Craving the elusive relevance the best way he knows how!
LOL!!

Please, go and sleep.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 9:43pm On Nov 04, 2021
Workch:
I know, just because I always show how illiterate you are grin
Thats why your words match who you are in its worthlessness!
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 8:11pm On Nov 04, 2021
Workch:
Ts you who don’t know basic science.

I don’t want to ever see you use that archaic law of motion to describe the universe. Ignoramus
LOL!
You are worth NOTHING of value!!
and
that's full the truth!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 8:05pm On Nov 04, 2021
LordReed:
You didn't answer the question. Did you cause your will to come into existence? In other words did you will your will into existence?
A Will is not an organ of the body. My Will is my RESPONSE or DECISION to external events it is not an object or item that can be caused into existence. The Will is an ATTRIBUTE/CHARACTERISTIC of a living BEING

The WILL is demonstrated in my choices to LOVE, HATE, GIVE, WITHHOLD, TRAVEL, HOLDON, RESPOND, CHEAT, HELP, etc
Christianity Etc › Re: Can You Explain How If Everything Has A Cause You Then Have Free Will? by TenQ: 4:57pm On Nov 04, 2021
LordReed:
Ok so did you cause your will to exist?
My Will is MINE to make!
My Will is what I CHOOSE!

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