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Kholiwe:At your age, do you obey your parents by your free will or by compulsion of koboko? |
KoladeChris24:Why do you deliberately want to bring problem into your life. Have you also asked her how she wants to raise her children? Do you think she will mind if they are raised as Catholics? Just as you are strongly opinuated about your church, so she is. It's a disaster waiting to happen. She probably doesn't see you as Born Again anyway! Marriage doesn't succeed based on love alone o! A word is enough to the wise! |
Dtruthspeaker:In other words, you as a person by default is decided to be unruly, disobedient, and rebellious to your parent so I can understand your position. Some of us have a healthy relationship with our parents that it is unthinkable and impossible for us to be rebellious, unruly or disobedient to them (even in their imperfections as parents). Therefore, if our relationship with an imperfect human parent is like this, how much more our Perfect Heavenly Father. Honestly, I can understand the positions of sons of Belial. Their character here on earth is terrible and they will mess up paradise if they are allowed in. I guess that is why not everyone on earth will be permitted to enter paradise. Truly, I understand your position! |
Kholiwe:Have you ever thought of hurting your parents? Why not? Is it not because they are REAL to you as careing and loving to you (in spite of their inadequacies)? Same here. God will be TOO REAL to us. It wouldn't require FAITH to Love and Trust Him. Do you think it is part of your plan to rebel against your parents in the future? We are not Robots. Our new nature make us effortlessly swing in line with God because our faith is based on a FULL RELATIONSHIP with God |
AntiChristian:Can you know better!!?? No! Your Qur'an isn't detailed on anything spiritual. You don't know that the scriptures before yours spoke about 1 God as a Spirit 2. angels of God and Fallen angels ...and Principalities, Powers, Spiritual wicked spirits in high places 3. Cherubims, Seraphims and other heavenly beings 4. Unclean Spirits, Familiar Spirits, Demons 5. Even human beings have their spirit component All you know is Jinns. No wonder you are confused. What other kinds of spirits do you know apart from Jinns? |
Kholiwe:Yes! If Angels have freewill, how much more children. Freewill isn't a curse, it is a blessing. The difference is that sources of temptations may not abound since you have whatever you need in paradise. Secondly, you have a new nature that desires to please and honour God. |
Etizz:SOme churches are particular of the nature of baptism 1. Baptism by Immersion 2. Baptism by Sprinkling As a person, I think Baptism should be by immersion. If your friend will not go to church because a pastor said unless he is baptized, is he truly born again? Why dont he go to another church where he would be accepted? Every church have their own rules, if you are not comfortable with theirs, join another church |
cutecommend:I am born Again. I can tell you how I got Born Again and the experience of what happened. I don't know the month I don't know the day I don't know the date I don't know the time |
Workch:I am not asking you to repeat meaningless rhetorics on top of LIES I asked you a basic Question Let me test your comprehension of simple physics: Does Dark Matter disobey the law of Thermodynamics? |
Workch:Common sense tells us to tread with CAUTION with respect to warnings when you are not sure UNTIL adequate evidence show the contrary Example:' Don't put your hand into that hole, a snake is inside Response 1: No one has seen any snake, therefore we should stick our hands inside Response 2: Even though no one has seen the snake, it may or may not be there lets not just stick our hands inside What you really don't know yet is Physics check your quote below and not about God Workch:Yours is a REJECTION of God and His Light |
Workch:Your seem like a master of lies! Twisting the truth like your father satan!!! And I am not surprised, like father like son! Just like I said in my previous post, you can forever silence falsehood by just Quoting me. You are trying to hide your lack of comprehension of basic physics with blatant lies!!!!!! ?? Let me test your comprehension of simple physics: Does Dark Matter disobey the law of Thermodynamics? |
kakaflex:Take your leap of FAITH: it can't be worse than Nigeria. The Opportunity will EXPAND your horizon Check for both CAQ and LIMA to prevent shedding of tears |
LordReed:I doubt if I want to give myself any label with respect to Freewill and Determinism. But within the limit of my knowledge and understanding, I have stated (and I think CONSISTENTLY) what Freewill is. In this world, many things are DETERMINED eg Day and Night, Life and Death, Need to Eat, etc BUT So many other things are NOT determined. Disasters, Election Results, Epidemic, Accidents. Your Freewill Operates irrespective of whether events around you are determined or not determined. |
LordReed:Of cause, the Will is influenced (but ) NOT determined by every external source. Every Temptation is a force that influences my will, I determine whether to yield or NOT to the temptation. I have once fought with a boy who was obviously bigger and older than me. But I took a stand even though I was convinced beyond all reasonable doubt that he could effortlessly beat me up. The question is: why did I CHOOSE not to chicken out of the fight in the face of the obvious? That is why the definition of FREEWILL is not complete without mentioning the effect of EXTERNAL CONSTRAINTS and INFLUENCES. Check the Definition from our previous post TenQ: |
Workch:Now because you are NOT sure if ENERGY is CONSERVED in quantum spaces, therefore it is NOT conserved (and I should go and read my old fashioned physics)? Is the First law of thermodynamics a Newton's law? The first law of thermodynamics seems to be the most basic of all Physics laws and in your wise ignorance, hiding under some vague quantum physics, you claim it has been violated?!!! Even Dark Matters obey this basic law. Do you even make sense to yourself? Your eminence just said that the First law of thermodynamics is NOT valid!? You see why I question your comprehension of simple physics!? You act just like my dictionary vocabulary school mate who always try to use big English to impress everyone yet Goofing in simple grammar! This is what you've said in simple terms ME: Is 3 +4 equal 7? YOU: No, we cannot be sure because in quantum physics, every known law break down so that 3+4 is not 7 |
A001:No need to reply a .... |
A001:It is erroneous to claim that EVERYTHING is part of God's plan. Any premise based on errors is obviously WRONG |
lalasticlala:Sick people who need both psychotherapy and deliverance claiming discrimination! Common sense even tell us that you cannot expect Cockerels to lay eggs: but in the spirit of wokeness, humans don't know their identity again! |
Workch:You've started your meaningless rants again! All you need to do is to use the TRUTH of Science to permanently debunk any of the FOUR claims/statements I have made TenQ:Numbers 1 and 4 are questions to You: probably, you don't have an answer! Is Number 2 a false statement? Is Number 3 a false statement? You can see exactly why I said your words mean NOTHING? |
LordReed:I think you are watching to much of movies like MATRIX. You said: If your ability to choose is part of a causal chain you had no hand in bringing about how do you know you are freely choosing those foods? 1. You have no hand in having the ability to CHOOSE 2. Our choices are normally determined by what we LIKE or will Maximise our Pleasure or Minimise our Pain 3. In Spite of these above, a human being CAN deliberately (knowing the consequence) take a CHOICE that he doesn't Like or make choices that minimizes his Pleasure or choices that maximises his discomfort/pain * This mean that our choices are made ON THE FLY based on the surrounding EXTERNAL constraints *This is why as humans, we sometimes make personal SACRIFICES for the good of others *This why there is Reward or Punishment for our kind of CHOICES we make on earth |
LordReed:I think I have answered you. External events are what predispose me to making my CHOICES. The external events usually have nothing to do with Me If I am not in control of the external events that will happen tomorrow, how could it be then that the chain of events that led to my existence (past tense) now left me to to influence what will happen tomorrow (future). I don't know if tomorrow I will be visited by Fulani Kidnappers or long lost childhood friend. I don't know if tomorrow a coup will take place in Nigeria to overthrow Buhari I don't know if a news will come out that my Bank have gone insolvent I don't know if tomorrow, the Dollar will crash I don't know if tomorrow, North Korea and China will fire their Nuclear Bomb capable Hypersonic Missile at USA. To the question again: How do you know your will is not being affected by the chain of events that led to your existence? Did the chain of events that lead to my existence also predetermined what will happen tomorrow? The answer is capital NO! Why? The Fulani Kidnapper has his independent Will and external circumstances unique to himself alone The Nigerian Soldiers have their independent Will and external circumstances unique to themselves alone The managers of my Bank have their independent Will and external circumstances unique to themselves alone etc. EXCEPT your CLAIM is that everything that would occur tomorow has already been determined from the past, then Freewill will be meaningless! Therefore, the things that led to my existence in this world does not affect my future |
Workch:Is energy also part of NOTHING? You have only made half of the statement: The second part is: When subatomic particles disappear, they don't vanish in space because they merely appear somewhere else. If they appear and disappear as you have said, then the law of conservation of energy is violated. Is the law of conservation of energy also archaic? |
LordReed:Because I have the power to react based on my judgement within the constraints available. Like, if you slap me, I could retaliate or choose not to retaliate. The constraints available may include whether the person who slapped me is my Father, a Military Officer, an Armed Thug, a Mad Man, My Wife etc Since my Will cannot cause someone else to slap me, my response is completely passive UNTIL the slap is activated. Even then, if a Military Officer is alone and he ventures to slap me, my response could be different. In summary: To the question : So another way to put the question will be how do you know your will is not being affected by the chain of events that led to your existence?The expression of my Will depend on my Knowledge, Emotion and Intuition all which I ACQUIRED as I grew up in life. For instance, my knowledge as a Christian may prevent me from retaliating a slap even when every logical reasoning says I should retaliate. It's still my CHOICE except you want to agree that every knowledge a man has has been preprogrammed to happen |
Workch:In order words, since you insist that "your scientists" have been able to create matter out of nothing.: Can you please explain (or point me to the source) how your eminent scientists did the creation? I believe you know understand how you have replace the God of Creation with the "god of information"!? Nature truely abhor a vacuum! |
Workch:I perfectly agree with you: It will take an astronomical amount of evidence in quantum physics to know that stuffs can exist from nothing. Unfortunately, there is not one single evidence yet. Or knowing that I am prone to not understanding advanced level physics, are their evidence of something coming out of nothing probably from the Large Hadron collider experiment? Until you find your evidence, you have a god "the god of information" and your faith is in it. |
Workch:It takes an astronomical amount of FAITH to know that the universe can exist from nothing (except if the definition of nothing has changed). Unfortunately, I don't have that kind of superhuman Faith. Nature abhors a vacuum: whenever anyone reject God, he has to replace Him with Something/Someone else! One day both our faiths will be tested! |
Workch:You remind me of a schoolmate who always looks for "big grammar" from the dictionary to speak but because of his lack of comprehension be breaks every rule of english grammar in the name of sounding sophisticated and thus is always VERBOSE, VAGUE and OUT OF CONTEXT. It is amazing when someone who claims to know does not recognise when Causality is being discussed. Please always try to comprehend what you have read before coming online to spew trash! |
Workch:Craving the elusive relevance the best way he knows how! LOL!! Please, go and sleep. |
Workch:Thats why your words match who you are in its worthlessness! |
Workch:LOL! You are worth NOTHING of value!! and that's full the truth!!! |
LordReed:A Will is not an organ of the body. My Will is my RESPONSE or DECISION to external events it is not an object or item that can be caused into existence. The Will is an ATTRIBUTE/CHARACTERISTIC of a living BEING The WILL is demonstrated in my choices to LOVE, HATE, GIVE, WITHHOLD, TRAVEL, HOLDON, RESPOND, CHEAT, HELP, etc |
LordReed:My Will is MINE to make! My Will is what I CHOOSE! |
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