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Phones › Re: iPhone Killer Apps Section!! by texazzpete(op): 12:16pm On Jun 28, 2009
Wonders shall never cease! Who woulda thought a backup would also store my game saves? I got all my data back! This be one pleased Negro, lemme tell ya!

Happy Sunday, all.
Phones › Re: iPhone Killer Apps Section!! by texazzpete(op): 5:41pm On Jun 27, 2009
logica:
E tu Pete! embarassed
lol. Just took certain things for granted.
Anyway, a restore from backup brought back my messages, notes and contacts. I'll keep my fingers crossed that my gamesaves follow through. I hardly ever game on the iPhone, but i've invested so much time in that wretched game, i deserve to see the end. . . or at least kill that Ogre that did me in last time i played.

lungwun:
South park bro, south park.
Spot on, man!
Phones › Re: iPhone Killer Apps Section!! by texazzpete(op): 2:02pm On Jun 27, 2009
Ex Inferis:
dumbass.
I'm not your friend, buddy!!!!
Phones › Re: iPhone Killer Apps Section!! by texazzpete(op): 9:43am On Jun 27, 2009
Apparently i needed to be on iTunes 8.2 first. Why didn't anyone tell me? cry
Phones › Re: iPhone Killer Apps Section!! by texazzpete(op): 9:21am On Jun 27, 2009
Madre dos Dios!! Woe is me, for i am undone!!

I tried the update process, and the bloody thing errored out. Now i'm stuck in the 'itunes-and-cable' screen, and the only option now is to DFU and restore.

Took me ages to get to level 22 in Puzzle Quest. Dammit!
Politics › Re: The Best Satellite Navigation System In Nigeria? by texazzpete(m): 12:57pm On Jun 25, 2009
This has been an interesting topic so far. . .

Alabiyemmy has NEVER claimed to be the only one allowed to make and sell maps in the Garmin format in Nigeria. anyone out there can do the same. The issue he has is that no-one is allowed to sell and distribute the maps he's made without his permission and approval. And that's why the maps are locked to devices at the sale point.

Arguing about proof of the COTEC maps being his own are rather silly, considering the obvious fact that the COTEC guys have now confirmed that the maps are identical. In an ironic twist, COTEC that first insisted they paid Alabi for the maps are now claiming they purchased same maps from Chinese people. Yet more of the blame seems centred on Alabiyemmy.

I dunno, this 'Chinese' story sounds really convenient. Fits into the 'chinese people are hackers' stereotype, and seems just too convenient as an escape route.


@El Razur
Stop playing the 'devil's advocate' role too hard. There's little sense in demanding proof from Alabiyemmy even when he's repeatedly offered you chances to come around to see proof of his claims.
Politics › Re: Indefinite Strike,what A Shame To Nigerian Universities by texazzpete(m): 10:36pm On Jun 23, 2009
dnex:
Over the years, ASUU has been striking, all they concessions the Federal Government made has been used to give themselves pay rise. Let these private universities reach the level the government universities are, that is when ASUU will shed tears.
Do you really know how much these lecturers earn? Do you truly have no clue how difficult it is now to retain decent brains in the educational sector? How many brilliant graduates choose to remain behind as lecturers?

dnex:
They don't know that the ultimate end of government's deregulation of the educational sector would be to privatise all the public universities. Let ASUU continue to strike till when majority of Nigerian students are in private schools. That is when they will know what strike is.
Lol. if you knew how much the school fees of Private unis are, you'd know that the public schools will always have the majority of students.
Politics › Re: Indefinite Strike,what A Shame To Nigerian Universities by texazzpete(m): 10:28pm On Jun 23, 2009
dnex:
ASUU is the same thing as MEND. Just take away the guns.

All they want is money in their bank accounts, yet they will not ask it. They will put student welfare as their gamble and continue to truncate and stagnate the students' future.

Over the years, ASUU has been striking, all they concessions the Federal Government made has been used to give themselves pay rise. Let these private universities reach the level the government universities are, that is when ASUU will shed tears.

They don't know that the ultimate end of government's deregulation of the educational sector would be to privatise all the public universities. Let ASUU continue to strike till when majority of Nigerian students are in private schools. That is when they will know what strike is.

They will strike that their salaries are meagre, they will strike that their incompetent colleagues were sacked, they will strike that while they were on 3 months strike they weren't paid salaries (as if they should be), they will strike that they will soon strike, they will strike after they finish from a strike.

Abeg ASUU should just buy guns for their members and hold the government to ransom the way they would really love to. They should start killing students if their demands are not met. Afterall, even know they don't know, but they're killing the students starting from their spirit.
It's cowards like you that have made Nigeria the mess it is today. You aren't even aware of the reason ASUU is going on strike, yet you're complaining. Where did you get the idea that the Government fulfils their end of the bargain in any negotiated settlement with ASUU? Every single time there's an agreement, the Government reneges on it. We've seen this happen over and over again, not only in the Academic sector but even in the medical services sector.
ASUU has consistently fought to improve not only the conditions of service of university lecturers, but also the lot of students in Nigeria. They've fought tooth and nail for an increase in the budget set aside for education to benefit all students. they've fought for better funding, for libraries, for computers, for better equipment. Everytime this fight is fought, they've been constantly undermined by Nigerians like yourself who are too myopic to see the big picture and too cowardly to place the blame on the more difficult target: the federal government. Every time they go on strike to attempt to force the Government to see reason, we get the same series of angry looking parents trotted out on NTA news to shower abuse on the lecturers. Are we in such a hurry to get a degree -any degree - that we happily overlook the fact that the quality of said education is nose-diving? Do we not feel shame that MEchanical Engr departments lack functioning lathe machines, that Medical schools lack relevant equipment, that computer science graduates from many universities are still learning FORTRAN up to 300L for lack of money to retain good teaching talent?
The reason for this strike is clear. An agreement was reached in the past, signed by a duly appointed rep for the Government (with the Government's consent) and yet no implementation after how many months and years of waiting.
Blaming ASUU is the easy way out. Focus on the root cause of the problem! Let the Government for once live up to their duties and responsibilities. Let them stick to their word for once!
In 6 years ago Obasanjo kept me and my fellow final year students at home for 4 months because ASUU asked for a few billion naira to improve standard of education . This same Obasanjo who refused to hand out that amount spent N25 billion hosting the Commonwealth Head of Govt Meeting that lasted for just a few days. Where was the outrage then?
Phones › Re: iPhone Killer Apps Section!! by texazzpete(op): 10:04pm On Jun 23, 2009
@lungwun
Did your update keep your game progress intact? I don't wanna lose my progress in Puzzle Quest sad

Answer quickly, my man! The fate of the free world depends on thee!
Politics › Re: Indefinite Strike,what A Shame To Nigerian Universities by texazzpete(m): 7:38pm On Jun 23, 2009
Nezed:
@texazzpete:
Did u just say stretch the truth?
Am seriously hoping u are in Nigeria, cos i nid u to do some research.
1. Apply for KPMG or PWC or NBC and pls come back and tell us the criteria,
2. with the strikes in secondary and primary skool, who enters Uni at 18yrs?
3. FYI, medicine is still a course, innit?

Still waiting for your research findings,
1. I can only speak of my own experiences when i was job hunting some years back, and i know that in most cases 27 - 30 years was the upper limit. Banks are the largest employers of Nigerian youths, how many banks do you know that use 25/26 as the upper limit? It's silly to use a niche example to generalize.

2. i'm sorry, but how many strikes occur in Secondary and Primary school, and for how long? Most people now enter uni at 16 - 17 years (except they've repeatedly failed the JAMB or post UME hurdle). 18 or 19 is stretching it, if the truth be told.

3. I excluded medicine because they are almost certainly immune from any age limits. No employer of labour for doctors will set any upper limit less than 30+ years. I should have thought that would be fairly obvious to anyone.

Nezed:
who told you the official or normal age for entering University is 18yrs?
Back in the days, without the strikes, it used to be 16yrs(at 10yrs/11yrs, you should be in J.ss 1) and there are 15yrs in Uni for those who jumped primary six(6) as well as those with 'double promotions' and 'skipped' certain grades or classes.
Nigeria needs to move forward, not backward,
When did i state that the official or normal age of entering Uni is 18 years? I merely used a worst case scenario to prove the lie in your argument.
You end up deflating your own argument. if you enter Uni at 16 years of age, even in the worst case scenario of 2 years of strike you'd still graduate from a 5 year course in 6-7 years. And that's younger than your Phantom 26 year cut-off.
Politics › Re: Indefinite Strike,what A Shame To Nigerian Universities by texazzpete(m): 5:02pm On Jun 23, 2009
Nezed:
This is actually sad,
While i was still at the university in Nigeria, i encountered about four strikes: ASUU strikes, cultism strike, salary increment strike, solidarity for sacked Uni-Illorin lecturers strike, etc.
The situation is pathetic and though i may be out of the university, i have a younger brother in the university back in Nigeria and so, ASUU still affects me.
You can imagine down here in the UK and in the U.S, we have 21, 22, 23 year olds applying for varying masters degree programme, whereas in nigeria at that age you are still battling with strikes in secondary school(this is the worst of it all- pri and sec skools going on strike) and wen u finally get into the university, the same story continues!
Then u keep faith and try to graduate only for job vacancies to specify-not more than 25/26years old and a 2-1. How does one make a 2-1 and remain less than 26yrs in this crisis and inceasant strikes conditions? not to mention the poor state of our educational facilities. What a nerve!

what does the the hapless graduate do? he goes and falsifies his age, bribes some officials/staffs and gets a job, next he keeps rubbing palms until he gets to the top and then he begins to except such acts of greasing his palms from new graduates/subordinates(afterall, he greased some other persons palms as well) and there a cycle is formed!
Bingo! it keeps going on and on and spreading to all other sectors, facets and institutions of our economy,

Is anyone still in doubt on how corruption thrives in Nigeria?
Gawd, we need a miracle!
Yeah right.

How many vacancies have you seen demanding for less than 25/26 years of age? And what's the talk about 2.1, as if one tends to spend more time in school obtaining a 2.1.

Also, if you enter a nigerian Uni at 18 years of age, even with incessant strikes you should get out in 6 years max, except if you're reading medicine.


It's never really a good idea to stretch the truth just to make a point.
Phones › Re: iPhone Killer Apps Section!! by texazzpete(op): 7:15pm On Jun 22, 2009
@Inferis
I beat you to the Win 6.5! Funny enough it was on a tytn 2 also, flashed the Joshkoss rom from xda-developers. Sadly the touchscreen isn't working ( wasn't working before the flash, did it in the hope it was a software issue) so still no uhuru
Foreign Affairs › Wsj: How Nokia And Siemens Helped The Iranian Govt Suppress Free Speech In Iran. by texazzpete(op): 7:06pm On Jun 22, 2009
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124562668777335653.html

Quick Summary
Here's how it happened: In 2008, the Iranian government contracted Nokia Siemens Networks, among others, to help update its communications infrastructure, predictably requesting power to monitor and control internet traffic. With the government's full monopoly on the industry and poor human rights record in full view, Nokia Siemens Networks obliged, installing a cutting-edge "monitoring center", which the WSJ calls one of the "most sophisticated" in the world.

Obviously Nokia and Siemens couldn't foreseen this exact outcome, but honestly, what did they expect?
Politics › Re: N250million: Peter Obi's In-law Ejike Onwusogbulu Flees To The United Kingdom by texazzpete(m): 7:50am On Jun 22, 2009
As far as i know this story of moving N250 million has NEVER been carried by any of the major newspapers in Nigeria. And we all can see the concerted efforts being put in place by the PDP to kick him out, including demanding for a state of emergency over kidnapping.

In a democratic setting, there's also basic human rights. The assault on Obi by these people without tendering any proof can be construed as defamation of character. By all means, if there's proof let them out it. i'm all for nailing the corrupt leeches in our society. But when ukpakareports releases a 1000 word article without any more concrete proof than hearsay, we have to laugh them off
Politics › Re: N250million: Peter Obi's In-law Ejike Onwusogbulu Flees To The United Kingdom by texazzpete(m): 8:23pm On Jun 21, 2009
isn't it funny how this ukpakareports website seems to focus almost exclusively on Governor Obi? I smell a hatchet job! So many articles, so little proof, I'd take it with a pinch of salt if I were you.
Politics › Re: The Best Satellite Navigation System In Nigeria? by texazzpete(m): 11:40pm On Jun 20, 2009
@Papabrowne, Manny4life

You guys don't get it. he isn't saying these guys made maps similar to his own. What he's saying is they are using the very maps he spent ages creating. Not a clone, but the real deal.
Technology Market › Re: Where To Buy A Mini Netbook? by texazzpete(m): 4:57pm On Jun 20, 2009
There's no such thing as a mini netbook
Politics › Re: The Best Satellite Navigation System In Nigeria? by texazzpete(m): 3:36pm On Jun 19, 2009
Kobojunkie:
Just 45k? Isn't that like almost $450 shocked shocked

That is more than enough to purchase me the new NETBOOK or even an IPOD!! lol
That's actually a hair over 300 dollars. At N148 (officially) to the dollar, how could you make that kind of mistake?
Phones › Re: iPhone Killer Apps Section!! by texazzpete(op): 8:32am On Jun 19, 2009
If he doesn't have the appstore app, it means he's running firmware 1.1.x.
i've seen a couple of people still on that shyte, complete with the Ziphone icon on the springboard cheesy

If i remember correctly Ex Inferis used to be a Zibri supporter grin
Politics › Re: Massacre In Niger Delta For Oil And Gas by texazzpete(m): 8:30am On Jun 19, 2009
RichyBlacK:
Can you point me to ONE court-martial in Nigeria addressing the countless cases of human rights violation by the Nigerian Army? I ask for just ONE. Thank you.

The Nigerian Army has in-built mechanisms to address the issue of cold-blooded murder, but have not done anything to stem this evil tide. I wonder what the "decent" and "gallant" soldiers are doing while their "indecent" and "not gallant" comrades rape, kill and pillage civilians and their homes.

Even under George Bush's tyranny, America still tried some soldiers that executed civilians in cold-blood in Iraq. The Us military routinely court-martials soldiers involved in non-homicide cases like rape. When did you ever hear that a Nigerian soldier was tried for rape, whether in Nigeria, Liberia or Sierra-Leone? Nigerian soldiers in Liberia and Sierra-Leone raped and murdered civilians and I'm yet to hear of ANY soldier being court-martialled for those atrocities.

Let me refresh your memory, just in case you've forgotten the events of the last four decades. In the late 1960s and 1970s during the Vietnam War, when Americans saw, read and heard of the many atrocities committed by US soldiers in Vietnam, millions of Americans, including soldiers, condemned those actions squarely. Many Vietnam Veterans joined the anti-war movement and lashed out at the government and the military. Some soldiers were beaten up and stoned. Others were spat at and ridiculed. Some Vietnam Veterans' like John Kerry, came forward and spoke against the military. The US military was very unpopular and millions of Americans openly expressed their disdain towards a corrupt, blood-thirsty and outright evil establishment that killed civilians wantonly in Vietnam. After footage and reports of the My Lai Massacre reached the US, millions of Americans went berzerk!

Patriotism cannot and should not be used to excuse the cold-blooded murder of innocent civilians!

I love Nigeria - the land, the people, my people, my country! However, I completely detest her government and the killing apparatus it (the useless government) uses to oppress the masses - the Nigerian Police and the Nigerian Army.
The Nigerian army is - by and large - a reflection of the general Nigerian society. You base your disdain for the armed forces on the lack of court martial trials for brutal attacks, but there are many crimes in Nigeria that go unpunished. Should we then also carry this same disdain for Nigerians everywhere?
The Nigerian army as an institution is not irredeemable. As with almost everthing in Nigeria, it is seriously flawed. But there are redeeming features, and we rely on this same army to defend us in case of any external aggression. By all means, point the finger at the bad eggs in the army, not a blanket condemnation of an institution that houses many decent men and women. For example, the Nigerian civil service has a very large amount of corrupt men and women, but there are many civil servants of integrity, including one of my parents who i can vouch for 100%. would you feel comfortable if i said all civil servants in nigeria are thieves?

I have NEVER come out to defend any atrocity committed by the armed forces. It dissapoints me that you consistently make that assumption/accusation. At least you're cut of more intelligent cloth than the likes of freed. Take care to read my statements without that red mist of rage and you'll understand where i'm coming from.

freed:
where is the head quarters of prostitution located? Nigerian women going to Europe started from where?
And what has this got to do with the topic under discussion? What have prostitutes in Edo have to do with me?

freed:
I have seen Nigerian army doing worse things than this its only idiots like you that support their actions
You can't fool me, it takes more work to reply my arguments point by point than to resort to childish insults. Stop being a phucking coward and reply me with some intelligence. Put your grey cells to work, any ape can spout stupid insults.
Politics › Re: Legislator Acquires Private Jet.says Its Cheaper Than Cars by texazzpete(m): 6:05pm On Jun 18, 2009
tjadeba:
Chidichris has really spoken my mind, all you others are no different from our stupid senator and ignorant reporter because you will never address the Nation's issues at the basics, only books books and researches that wont bring in any results.Imagine these folks are not even talking about why he is not championing how to fix our roads,rather they are saying its propeller this propeller that.Does the propeller he bought move on roads?We still have a long way to go in Nigeria as per fixing our problems.So help us God
He bought the plane with his own money. should he then use his dough to fix roads for you?
Phones › Re: How Can I Browse The Internet With My Iphone? by texazzpete(m): 11:47am On Jun 18, 2009
babaogun:
Might be referring to the ITouch, which is just an advanced Ipod or and Iphone without the fone functionality
There is no WAP enabled iPod touch. So that's a FAIL any way.
Politics › Re: Massacre In Niger Delta For Oil And Gas by texazzpete(m): 6:40pm On Jun 17, 2009
freed:
Look at this edo spiritualist, voodoo man! last time I checked that your poverty wretched edo state has no oil. walai if edo had oil they could have done worse than these Ijaw boys.

you should be worried about your illiterate kings banning palm fruits, armed robbery in your state  and your International renowned PROSTITUTES in edo state.
lol. You're yet to make any point pertaining to this matter under discussion. You really think yabbing my state of origin is gonna get through my skin?
You've got balls talking about armed robbery in Edo State. The main issue in Edo State now is kidnapping. Guess where that started from, idiot.



RichyBlacK:
Only a blind retard thinks the Nigerian Army is filled with decent men and women. There have been countless documented cases of war crimes against the Nigerian Army, from the Biafran War to the war in Liberia and also in Sierra Leone. If the Nigerian Army has "loads of gallant, decent men", how come we've never heard of even a single court-martial to address the nefarious activities of the Nigerian Army?

Was it not these "gallant" soldiers that went on a rampage and destroyed the village of Odi, killing anything that moves? Was it not these "decent" soldiers that invaded Zaki Biam (BBC) and massacred over 200 civilians, including women and children?
There are over 80,000 men and women in the Nigerian millitary. Of that number, even if 20% are decent, that still amounts to 'lots of decent, gallant people' in the army. And praying for Millitary men to be killed violently is wrong, seeing as how lots of good officers and men will be consumed in that fire too.
It was not the 80,000 soldiers of the Nigerian army that descended on Odi. Neither was it all the soldiers in Liberia and Sierra Leone that joined in the rape and looting. It takes only a few bad eggs to tarnish the lot, and it take a logical mind to understand the error of generalization and application of stereotypes.


RichyBlacK:
Also, there are millions of Americans that have summarily condemned the barbaric actions of the US Marines/Army in Iraq and Afghanistan. [/b]
False. Millions of americans have condemned the Bush administration's war in Iraq. There's always a groundswell of support for the US armed forces from the populace.



RichyBlacK:
I have no apologies for condemning the actions of the Nigerian Army in the Niger Delta. I have only contempt for that institution and nothing more. Hiding under the banner of patriotism and ignoring the cold-blooded murder of civilians is the height of cowardice!

Volunteer? To join the Nigerian Army? I haven't even volunteered to join the more literate, saner US Marines sef talkless of joining a band of zombies! (praises to Fela Kuti).

Traitor? The easiest way of identifying brainwashed "patriots" is their penchant to quickly [b]equate firm and uncompromising rebuke of national entities with treason. If condemning the macabre and barbaric actions of the Nigerian Army is considered treason, then so be it![/b]

May the souls of the innocent men, women and children who died in the hands of the murderous Nigerian Army rest in peace.
But you weren't giving a 'firm and uncompromising rebuke'. You were actively praying for the men and women of the Nigerian armed forces to die violent and grisly death, irrespective of whether they have ever been involved in extra-judicial killings in the ND or not.
It is totally correct to rebuke the army as an institution and to call vigorously for an inquest into the actions of some unscrupulous elements in the army. To wish death on ALL millitary personnel in the delta is in itself as evil as the act you condemn.

RichyBlack, let's keep things civil from here on, k?
Politics › Re: Ateke Tom Accepts Yaradua's Amnesty Offer And Surrenders by texazzpete(m): 6:09pm On Jun 17, 2009
Why should this bloodthirsty demon escape justice under the umbrella of 'amnesty'?!
Politics › Re: Massacre In Niger Delta For Oil And Gas by texazzpete(m): 8:15am On Jun 17, 2009
RichyBlacK:
Those bastards in the Nigerian Army attempted this kind of genocide against Igbos between 1966-1970. It is a sad reality that the evils that the Igbos complained about in the mid-1960s is coming back to hunt the Ijaws and some other minority groups in the South. This struggle has a long history.

The bastards in the Nigerian Army are illiterate fuktards who do not even know how to read the Geneva Convention let alone understand it. Though I've always sympathized with the struggle in the Niger Delta against the evil tyranny of the kleptomaniacs in flowing babariga in Abuja, seeing this video has pushed me further in my support. I support MEND in all their activities against the Nigerian Army and sincerely pray and hope those murderers in the Nigerian Army are annihilated! May God show no mercy to those cold-blooded murders who took the life of those young men. I have ONLY contempt for the Nigerian government and all those who support the genocide against the people of the Niger Delta!
Why generalize so recklessly? Don't you think there are loads of gallant, decent men in our armed forces?
Use your head instead of making a silly knee-jerk reaction and call for the arrest and prosecution of those soldiers in the video instead of demanding for the deaths of all the men and women who put on the uniform in defence of this country.
It's a pity Nigeria is filled with idealistic cowards and traitors who will not in a million years volunteer for the armed forces, yet never let any opportunity pass to deride these same men. a few US forces have killed and wounded civillians in Iraq and Afghanistan, yet the American public is savvy enough to know that there are far more decent men and women in the army and they show respect to their armed forces. It's a pity we Nigerians cannot dredge up the same level of patriotism.

Before i get flamed here, my position is clear; restrict your bile to the people in the video alone.
Politics › Re: Legislator Acquires Private Jet.says Its Cheaper Than Cars by texazzpete(m): 7:20pm On Jun 16, 2009
It's been one of my dreams to fly someday, and i've had my eye on small ultralight aircraft for a while. This Cessna would do quite nicely - if only i could afford it grin
LMAO at the reporter calling it a jet.
Politics › Re: The Forgotten Four by texazzpete(op): 1:02pm On Jun 16, 2009
Ibime:
Why do you worry yourself on N-Delta issues so much? Do you have an itch to scratch?
While you stay safely aside to cheer the deaths of able-bodied Nigerians, some of us actually stay in the Niger Delta and are directly affected by the insecurity in the region.
It's a shame you're too dense to appreciate this point everytime i've repeated it to you.


ow11:
First you blame Ken for being complicit in the murders, then later you say he should have read the situation and warned them. How could he warn them? If they disregarded the warnings and got the same end result how would we describe the story today?
And where exactly did i say Ken should have warned them?
You've made it a big part of your argument that there were clear signs of impending violence that the four should have heeded. Ergo, if the signs were so clear shouldn't Saro Wiwa have read them and moved to calm tensions in his supporters?

Mostly your words, not mine. And recall that the writer has only insisted that Saro Wiwa is partly responsible. Never has she made the assertion that he ordered their deaths.
Foreign Affairs › Re: The 'Death' Of Ariel Sharon by texazzpete(m): 12:52pm On Jun 16, 2009
back2back:
See how GOD punishes the enemy of Palestine People.

God turns them to 'living-dead'
There are thousands of people in coma or in a somewhat vegetative state. Are they all 'enemies of the palestinian people' too?

Show some sensitivity for people with brain damage on life-support. Using a derogatory term such as 'living dead' is entirely stupid.
Politics › Re: The Forgotten Four by texazzpete(op): 10:54am On Jun 16, 2009
Ibime:
That 4 men who were hobnobbing with the peoples killers and oppressors (check the role of RSVG in Ogoni killings with regards to arming Andoni and Okrika Bush Boys to kill Ogonis, check the slaughter of Ogonis by the military task force, check the role of Shell and Chevron in hiring Helicopters and Boats to the Army which were used in the slaughter of hundreds of Ogonis). Now if these 4 men were openly hobnobbing with these enemies of the people, what more cause do you need to look for for the mob action? This is not in any way justifying the mob action, but the history of the men who were killed should inform any seasoned observer that you do not need to look to Saro-Wiwa to know why these men were regarded as traitors. 4 men of Gokhana origin, killed by Gokhanas in Gokhana land, then blamed on a Khana man? What a laugh!
It can also be called dialogue, retard! Without any proof all you can offer is hearsay. Aren't the Israelis talking to the Palestinians these days?
I wonder how you truly feel when your 'respected elders' like Edwin Clark are openly defending genuine killers like Ateke Tom. . .hobnobbing, eh?
Politics › Re: The Forgotten Four by texazzpete(op): 10:50am On Jun 16, 2009
Ibime:
I wonder when you will stop speaking out of the side of your mouth. . . .

Now, both your posts above are highly contradictory, and even a man with the brain of a peanut would notice it. . . . . it is either Saro-Wiwa was 'tainted' - implying his incitement led to the deaths of the 4. . . . or he praised the 4 as Ogoni patriots. . . . which one?. . . . pick one and stop this stupid charade.
Kindly point to the contradiction in my post. Do i really have to refer you to Dictionary.com before you know what that word means?
My comment is clearly meant to make you see that even great men are only human, and was a direct counter to your fanatical attempts to reject any suggestion of human failings in him, including tacitly justifying the deaths of four men. Making stupid reference to the 'Jerry Rawlings solution' is a shining example.

Ken praising the Ogoni 4 after their deaths was to show up your comments that they were 'traitors'. And if you people insist that the 4 elders should have read the prevailing mood in Ogoniland, why criticise the writer for believing that  Ken should have read the same mood swing and done more to calm tensions?


Ibime:
Now, its time to drop this silly argument. If you repeat it long enough, it will start to gain some traction. The writer totally lost credibility by failing to disclose that her father was a prosecution witness. Instead of arguing whether Saro was complicit in the death of the 4, we should be asking whether her father was complicit in Saro's murder.
What a worthless fool you are! Why the hell will her father fail to testify, if invited by the court, especially as he nearly lost his life that day. Do you have any idea what his testimony was? How do you know he wasn't summoned to the court to describe how the men were murdered only?
Are all prosecution witnesses in court cases there to directly point the finger at the suspect under trial?
Politics › Re: The Forgotten Four by texazzpete(op): 7:14pm On Jun 15, 2009
I just read the link provided by Ibime, only to see the 'forgotten four' described in glowing terms by Saro Wiwa. He even goes as far as calling them 'great ogoni patriots'.

So much for the 'evil traitors' you guys are desperately trying to paint them as to justify their deaths.
Politics › Re: The Forgotten Four by texazzpete(op): 6:55pm On Jun 15, 2009
ow11:
Why didn't the police look for the mob coordinators instead they went to pick up Ken that was under house arrest at that time. These Ogoni 4 with strong links to the RVSG were perceived by the general Ogoni populace as traitors and should have been aware of their position in the scheme of things in Ogoni land.
And so you casually justify their deaths because of their 'strong links with the RVSG'?

There's no justification for them being brutally murdered. it's one thing for you to defend Saro Wiwa, but stop defending the indefensible. It's wrong, plain and simple.

Every hero has some level of taint in them. it doesn't make them evil, merely human. For example, for all her past corrupt activities, Benazir Bhutto is still revered as a heroine by many in Pakistan.

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