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Oh boy, this is more than Rocky Balboa o. As in the guy is literally a mass of walking rocks.

Kjhova, You are very sound! The logic of your submissions is excellent.

Thanks for the refreshing enlightenment about the history of the Yoruba political landscape.

Omonnakoda is just playing the devil's advocate by not wanting to follow popular opinion. But he should realize that being different from the crowd in itself does not automatically connote wisdom or correctness. His arguments for RFK and Akintola have been weak and will do little to convince anybody.

Jokerman:
What has De Lima done in football that Cristiano hasn't done... Please no sentimental garbage just facts...

And why are you placing messi over Delima?

Can't you read. I said the Phenomenon has won the World Cup golden ball and the silver ball in 1998 and 2002 respectively. He also got the best player at the Copa America 1997, which are all testament to his individual greatness. Cristiano has never won any of these including the European version of the Copa. That's the hallmark of individual greatness and these are facts.

That being said. Cristiano does not hold a candle to De lima in terms of ability to do magic with the ball on the field of play. If you call that sentimental garbage, then I'm afraid you know nothing about football. Several top football personalities, including Jose Mourinho, Cristiano's compatriot have made the comparison and attested to this fact.

Jokerman:
You are just a hater

Putting cryuff over Ronaldo??

Ronaldo Del Lima over cr7?

Is there anything those players can do that Ronaldo cant??

Please state them here

Lol, as if you are lover of Messi.

Yes. These players can actually terrorize opposition all game long consistently. They have all won the World'cup's best player which demonstrates their overall influence throughout the tournament and not just goalscoring.

And don't u ever insult Ronaldo da lima, by mentioning CR7 in the same breath as him. Imagine the effrontery. Have you ever watched Da Lima play? Even it's not easy for me to say Messi is head and shoulders better than him.

bayelsaowei:
you said it all...I am shocked at how the standards for measuring good football just got boxed up in goal scoring alone...

Messi gives you what your soccer is...I remember when football was a show of brilliance, dribbling, spectacular assists and to add to it goal scoring..how many goals did zidane score or even ronaldinho??. But we always looked forward when they have to play a match..

Recent football watchers have all gone mad with just goal scoring..

Messi is all football can ever be...even his last goal against eiber tells you he is special..

Yeah you are so right, I really don't understand at what point the standard changed. Imagine Messi having 3 assists and pulling all the strings in a single game and peeps were saying he's out of form. How??

I remember Zidane against Brazil in 2006 WC. He was mesmerizing the entire Brazilian team with outrageous skills. He didn't score, but assisted the only goal of the game. He was awarded the World Cup's golden ball on the strength of that performance and would have won the world player of the year if not for the headbutt incident. Can you now imagine a CR7 fan's comment that assists and how the game is played don't matter in football? That's why I regard them as ignoramuses in football matters.

Even Ronaldinho's performance against AC Milan at San Siro in 2005 UCL semifinal. He didn't score, but we all remember his infamous leg over that sent Gattuso to the cleaners, his mesmerizing assist for Ludovic Guily. And he was rewarded for that. If it was Messi, I bet they'll say he had an average game lol.

stanliwise:
And how about the goals across three leagues, we shouldn't in look that direction right... **winks***

Bro despite everything I've said about Ronaldo's penalty prowess, I won't deny that he's a great goalscorer, in fact one of the greatest goalscorers in the game's history. He's in the class of Gerd Muller, Romario, Di Stefano in this regard. No one can take that away from him. My point is he offers little else other than that. And that's where the likes of Messi, Maradona, Ronaldo da Lima, Pele, Zidane and Cryuff trumps him.

stanliwise:
Across three leagues.

Zlatan scored 79 penalties across SEVEN leagues bro (Serie A, Dutch Eredivisie, EPL, La Liga, French Lique 1, MLS and Sweden)

Just give it a rest bro, I know you wish to boost CR7, but it's not working. Facts are facts.

stanliwise:
No player in history can score the penality and goals across three league like C. Ronaldo. I like messi alot but please don't water down C Ronaldo.

CR7 has missed 22 penalties in his career. With respect to penalty conversion rate, there are a handful of players who are better penalty scorers than CR7: Matt Le Tissier was the best penalty scorer as he had a conversion rate of 98% (48/49 penalties). Others with better conversion rate than CR7 include: Alan Shearer, Frank Lampard and Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

stanliwise:
No player in history can score the penality and goals across three league like C. Ronaldo. I like messi alot but please don't water down C Ronaldo.

Noted. But it looks like you are the one watering down C.Ronaldo by emphasizing on penalities as his area of core competence!

For your information, Pele was known to refuse taking penalties at times as he felt it was an affront to his scoring prowess to be gifted free goals.

Over 20% of CR7's goals are penalties.

PopeFlatino:
Guy d thing just dey weak me since last year...when Barca won Liverpool and man UTd respectively last season,no reasonable update aftermath to honour the hero "Messi"
But as Liverpool mounted a comeback on d second leg,the mockery updates were much to do extent that I stopped visiting
this site for like 1week because of trolls.

With all d magic Messi did last season,,no praise at all but if Cr7 scores any useless goal,it will hit FP sharp sharp despite his poor season.

Messi win the FIFA Best, they skipped every reasonable update to acknowledge him even when those sports apps they normally copy from does, NairaLand mods will overlook doing copy and paste.

Messi won d Ballon d'or,They just gave us the live and final updates,and no reasonable thing again except bringing out debate that Ronaldo was robbed d previous season..They kept posting only Cr7 serie A best player award things instead.

I kept begging them to update more of Messi,but d hatred became too obvious .They have banned me twice even.

I wish I can find another additive gist site that is neautral in debates

You are right. If you even consider this, of all the sensational news available about Messi yesterday, that is:

-Messi scoring brilliant four goal haul
-First player to make 1000 goal contributions
-Highest number of hattricks career wise and la liga
-Eibar plays tribute to Lionel Messi saying they cannot but applaud him even though he has made them suffer a lot
- I will not wash my cloth after hugging Messi - Braithwaite

Knowing that it would be totally indefensible to ignore Messi after his otherworldy performance, one of the incompetent Mods then proceeded to chose the least complimentary of the news as a front page item i.e I will not wash my cloth after hugging Messi, a newspiece with focus on Braithwaite, who many people don't even know at all, as the subject, and with scanty reference to what Messi actually did to warrant such statement. They then proceeded to issue CR7's news with him as the unmistakable subject, "CR7 scores in his 1000th game", with no interference from an obscure Braithwaite and his likes here. How so convenient

I'm sure it's that Ogbiwa mod and Obembet or something that are the principal culprits. That's if they are not the same person.

Whobedatte:
Messi won laurel award few days ago as the first and only footballer to do such .
He already had 1000 goals contribution to the game of football.
No headlines here , is nairaland anti-Messi?

Lool, Are you just knowing?? I've noticed it for like a year plus now. Only that they are now making it more obvious.

Messi's superiority dey pain dem die!!

See performance. Pls wake me up when CR7 achieve this kind of performance in a single match. Just look at the sheer quality of the goals, something penaldo can never match. All his hattricks, na penalty and tap-ins. Nothing ingenious like Messi's output.

Messi has always been more than just goals. I have always said this. The goals are just the icing on the cake. It's the play, the dribble, that feint, the mesmerizing sprint, the subtle pass, nutmeg, the slalom, the precision, unparalleled vision, name it! That's what we are talking about. That's what we got with breathtaking Ronaldinho even though Eto'o was scoring more goals; with Zidane even though Raul was scoring more goals. That's pure football artistry which sadly is what CR7 fans can never understand.

The above notwithstanding, please note this below:

pahars:
Now I can see that the guys in charge of frontpage topics are all Ronaldo fans. Messi won arguably the biggest individual sports awards during the week,it didn't make the fp,but any comments on Ronaldo keeps making fp,whether relevant or irrelevant.

Seriously I am baffled by Nairaland's show of shame in partisanship. It's like Seun doesn't realize that some of his mods are allowing their personal sentiments override their sense of objectivity in reporting newsworthy events.

How can Messi win one of the biggest individual sport awards, the Laureus Sportman of the year, and it did not make frontpage, despite several comments on the news item in the sport section And then Messi now makes just a simple comment that renders CR7 in good light, then boom it goes to the front page straightaway?? This is turning sense upside down! Outright unprofessionalism!

What I have observed is that the mods are always pained by Messi's perceived superiority in the footballing world and are always doing everything to downplay his prowess, which includes ignoring his successes and magnifying his rival beyond reasonable proportions.

It will never change the fact that Messi is the GOAT.

yungsmart:
Why is this news not on front page

I wonder as well. There's a lot of anti-Messi sentiments here. Meanwhile, If CR farted and it made the news, it'd have been on front-page since.

Congratulations to Lionel Messi, the greatest player of his generation, for another landmark achievement.

He keeps breaking boundaries adding yet another feather to his cap as THE ONLY SOCCER PLAYER TO WIN THE PRESTIGIOUS LAUREUS SPORTSMAN OF THE YEAR AWARD. To highlight the importance of this award, the maximum record is held by Roger Federer, who is a five time winner of the award.

The organizers, in recognition of Messi's incredible individual contributions on the field of play, had to break their protocol of not considering team based games for the award. A testament to Messi's individual brilliance on the pitch across all key parameters i.e goalscoring, playmaking, dribbling, passing long or short, technique, control, free-kicks name it.

As seen in the last few games for Barcelona, even when Messi is not scoring, he remains crucial than ever for the team's results. He created barca's last six consecutive assists across three games. The first player to do so in a top-tier European league in a long while.

The GOAT undisputed.

cc: lalasticlala

Congratulations to Lionel Messi, the greatest player of his generation, for another landmark achievement.

He keeps breaking boundaries adding yet another feather to his cap as THE ONLY SOCCER PLAYER TO WIN THE PRESTIGIOUS LAUREUS SPORTSMAN OF THE YEAR AWARD. To highlight the importance of this award, the maximum record is held by Roger Federer, who is a five time winner of the award.

The organizers, in recognition of Messi's incredible individual contributions on the field of play, had to break their protocol of not considering team based games for the award. A testament to Messi's individual brilliance on the pitch across all key parameters i.e goalscoring, playmaking, dribbling, passing long or short, technique, control, free-kicks name it.

As seen in the last few games for Barcelona, even when Messi is not scoring, he remains crucial than ever for the team's results. He created barca's last six consecutive assists across three games. The first player to do so in a top-tier European league in a long while.

The GOAT undisputed.

cc: Lalasticlala , Mynd44

You mean an eclipse of the sun or moon is more prolific than this guy An eclipse happens like once in at least every 5 - 10 years!

While waiting for this guy to score, there would have been like:

- at least 200 plane crashes, as rare as plane crashes are
- Seven major volcanic eruptions, as rare as they are
- Six world cups
- Twenty four Big brother Nigeria shows!
- a newborn baby would have finished college and gotten married

Just imagine. I officially present to you Greatest Conman of All Time

cr7lomo:
U are the delusional one here....bloody hypocrite .... U support Messi and someone else supports CR7;... But u condemn a former Barca arsenal Chelsea world cup winner because his opinion doesn't correspond with urs... But if he said Messi will dominate the EPL , u will hail him ... Gtfoh bloody hypocrite


The only thing u Messi fans know is assist ...let mr assist go and collect golden assist award ... Assist that has always been vin football but because to find the net compared to CR7 is now growing in miles , u guys now run to assist... Hu 4kn cares about assists .... FIFA or any football association has never given any award for assist ... He is not the first to assist , neither will he b the last ... Even moses assisted yesterday on his debut with just 10mins of play... If u don't know, assists are one of the easiest attributes in football as long as uv got good finishers ... If u hv poor finishers, will anyone recognise ur assists ... Nonsense

I think I’ve schooled you before, I won’t mind doing it again for free. You obviously lack a footballing brain. Messi has already won the Globe Playmakers award last year. Isn’t that an award primarily hinged on creating opportunities for your team by way of assists? You are so ignorant that the very reason you are mocking Messi for is a recognized award that Messi has actually won. Please don’t quote me again if you don’t have anything sensible to say as I only engage in people with at least a modicum of footballing knowledge in order to preserve my own intellectual integrity. You can insult me all you want (I don’t expect any critical thinking from you), I won’t reply anymore.

In your blissful ignorance, you failed to see that I did not criticize her for supporting CR7, I support Messi and I make no apologies for that. But that she was perpetually on the look out for anti-Messi posts like she is on a mission (in futility). I don’t see anti-CR7 fans live their entire life constantly seeking for negative opinions about CR7 to post on NL.

Emmanuel Petit is entitled to his opinion that Messi can’t cut it out in the EPL (Aguero, Silva, Torres, Yaya Toure comes to mind), Jurgen Klopp is also entitled to his opinion that Messi should always win the Ballon D’or as the best player every year. Both of their opinion does not change the fact that Messi is the greatest player of his generation and that, I know, is beyond your mental grasp. The truth hurts, I know.

obembet:
Must you insult others cos of thier own opinion on football? Why is your life full of bitterness? My view can not the same as yours.. We must see things different way. U need to blame your parent for how they brought you up wrongly, or maybe they are not living together. And if u don't change, u won't have peace as long as ur life full of hatred.

While the guy is wrong for insulting you, you also appear to have a full healthy dose of bitterness for Messi. What's with all the anti-Messi posts you diligently seek for and bring to NL all the time? Even after a night where Messi recorded a hattrick of assists in a scintillating performance and helped Barca to victory which you conveniently ignored, you still went to look for negative energy just to get Messi bashed? Your second name should be bitterleaf soup ma'am.

If life is about looking for negative opinions of others to be able to survive, then I'm afraid there are millions of anti-Messi fans on social media globally that you can scrounge after and bring their worthless opinions to NL for you to gloat over and hide your inner pain. But you know one thing, every player, sports journalist with a footballing brain have always acknowledged that Messi is the greatest footballer of his generation. This is a matter of fact (highest number of Fifa world player & ballon d'ors) that a million Emmanuel Petits and his likes cannot change.

Pathetic. This beggars belief.

If a very average footballer earns 20,000 pounds per week for 10 years without any increase, he'll have grossed over 10 million pounds (over 4billion Naira) during this period. Now consider an elite footballer who earns multiples of 20,000 pounds a week for up to 15 years, who most likely would have grossed over 100 million pounds, then also add mega income from endorsements, you are probably looking at 150 - 200 million pounds (60 - 80 billion Naira) from a glittering career.

How can such a person go broke?? I can understand Ifeanyi Udeze or Femi Opabunmi going broke. But Ronaldinho, how can you be broke?? It's just beyond my understanding.

For David James, you don't need a soothsayer to tell you a huge chunk of his dough ended up in the purse of those sweet in the middles.

Mynd44 front page please.

So, the crash was likely due to Pilot error. So so sad as it was an avoidable death.

RIP KB

While I mostly agree with you on the criteria for being a world class player, I think the examples you gave are too restrictive. Any player can be a world class player. It does not have to be only the top 5 percent. My own criteria for a world class player goes thus:

1. Quality
2. Consistency in delivery
3. Impact in pressure moments/big games
4. X-factor

You don't have to have won trophies to be a world class player. But I agree that eventually a world class player will have to play in a big team.

There are many world class players over time in the EPL.

Man Utd - cantona, scholes, Nistelrooy, CR7, Rooney, Ferdinand, Stam, Vidic, Giggs, Beckham, Schmeichel, Van der saar

Arsenal - Bergkamp, Henry, Pires, Vieira, Campbell, Van Persie, Fabregas.

Chelsea - Zola, Lampard, Drogba, Terry, Cech, Makelele, Cavarlho, Cole, Hazard

Liverpool - Owen, Gerard, Torres, Riise, Salah, Mane, Coutinho, VVD, Becker

True, I agree, there was a greater catch to the classico when CR7 was involved.

Messi had extra motivation to humiliate Real Madrid whenever CR7 was playing.

livebyday:
Now imagine allowing these jokers own nuclear weapons ?

Now you see why the USA said they should never be allowed to ?

Nuclear weapons in the hands of a nation that is ready to sacrifice its own existence on the altar of radicalism? That will be the end of the world!

yorubademon1:
now imagine Iran with nuclear weapons, the world will be in trouble

That, my friend, will be Armageddon!

All the goodwill gained by Iran over the US attack on Suleiman have been wiped out. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

This is gross level of incompetence from Iran. It is beyond stupidity, on a global scale. How do you shoot down a plane that took off from your own nearby airport under the pretext that it was a hostile aircraft?

It is as if Mr Bean was handling their missile weaponry. Yes that is exactly what they are, Jokers!

Trump will just be sitting down and smiling

That being said, I don't trust that the US did not use some technology interceptory intelligence to befuddle the Iranian defence system

The coincidence is just too co-incidental!

And one of the key rules in warfare/ intelligence they teach is that; "There's no such thing as a coincidence"

Cotton:
What exactly are you saying? What does annual turnover have to do with VAT?

If your turnover is less than 25m per annum then you are exempt from Company Income Tax, not VAT! Then I don't understand what the meal receipt has to do with this?

Please clarify.

You re wrong. The Finance bill also contains provisions exempting companies with annual turnover of less than N25million from paying or filing VAT returns.

donoro:
lewandoski >>>>>> than aguero. Aguero no get ucl

It's debatable. Lewy too doesn't have a UCL trophy. Personally I'll put both of them in the same class as they are excellent poachers. That's why I said they are equal.

Jokerman:
Aguero better than lewandowski

Oga u no dey read mathematical sign? I put equal to, you re saying greater than.

South America>Europe>Africa

Reasons

Neymar =Mbappe>Mane
Aguero = Lewandoski>Aubameyang
Messi>Ronaldo>Salah

C'est Fini

Dybala11:
Oga you're lying, Messi only played against and won Ronaldo's team in 2009. So which other defeat are you referring to? Don't even compare the achievement of both players in the UCL at all, cos Ronaldo is miles ahead of Messi in the UCL, back to back to back no be moinmoin

Apologies, but please verify things before you call them lies, otherwise you become the liar. Messi did not only play against and win Ronaldo's team in 2009. HE ALSO PLAYED AGAINST REAL MADRID IN UCL SEMI-FINAL IN 2011 AND SCORED 2 SPECTACULAR GOALS AT THE BERNABEU TO SEND MADRID AND RONALDO CRASHING OUT OF THE COMPETITION! Please check it out on youtube if you are still unconvinced.

If you are ignorant of the above, then I shouldn't be arguing with someone with limited football knowledge.