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papa: i dey comot ![]() Ben 10 and his brodas: papa u dey comot ![]() papa: ehhhhen wetin happen ![]() Ben 10 and his brodas: papa we go follow u ![]() papa: *ignore* ![]() Ben 10 and his brodas: papa we go go follow you today, everytime u dey comot dey leave us for house ![]() papa: ohhhhhh, dis chuldren una no go leave me, ok where una wan go ![]() Ben 10 and his brodas: *silent and asking themselves* Ok papa anywhere ![]() papa: if una make me vex i go flog una wer una wan go 1, wer una wan go 2 ![]() Ben 10 and his brodas: ok paaaaa we go go, ok we go go anywhere even if na night vigil sef. |
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Why does my intuition tell me not to respond to any Abuzola's thread henceforth , maybe it could be so that when he strikes the US team may not connect my username in his threads (IP address) like wats presently going on with the friends/ Contributors of Abdulmutallab on facebk ![]() |
Gabry, bring your ears closer lemme tell u how it could be changed create a new account and call it mamaNgozi dont tell seun i told o, |
princekevo:Bravo brother, just what i have been telling them for over 2yrs here. We must have descended from the same planets. wish that KunleOshod, ttalks and debosky of a Gs could come in here to see this |
adagz 01: See why i call the whole thing confusing! A typical naija bro and chick are both characterised for their egos, now how should 2 egocentric folks find it in the same car with me ![]() |
Gat me laffing my lungs out, funny how Tonye - Tamuno has been characterised as synonymous for Tithe ![]() Ok i think i'll start posting on other topics too. thanks for that finding ![]() |
It baffles me how everyone think of religion as some trash bin where one could come in and throw dirts as at when one wills. @poster, pardon me, i aint trying to be personal here but you know little of some atrocities your ancestors committed how would you feel if someone where to come up to say your lineage should be wiped off for sake of what one person did at one time or the other. ![]() |
eyoniggar:sounds very easy i guess ![]() |
iice:what seems as unnecessary to one might be very necessary to another , lil stuffs like this are wat causes crazy ripples you cannever tell ![]() |
Pastor AIO:1. Pardon me, perhaps i didnt quite understand you at first, yes i must say i agree with you as against by initial contrary. The purpose of Tithing means more than God's work on the context of where the OP opined. Little wonder i thought of posting it up b4 my later post 2. However i bet to differ on your second notion that the tithe was meant for the levites and to assist the poor/widows only. The original purpose of tithe meant an act of worship, inquiry, appeasement and appreciation to a deity (God) hence the root hebrew term "ma'aser". This to me is quite different from you opinion on the general use/purpose of tithing for the levites and the poor (to feast people as you put it). For the origin of your purpose of tithe ascertion i'll say started from Moses and not from Abraham. How do i mean: The scriptures never told us that the tithe Abraham gave was given to any poor person or widowed for that matter neither was it used for feasting. Rather he gave it to a Priest, and the reason for this was not because The Priest never had any inheritance (like you think is the reason why levites take tithes) or whatever but because he stood in place on YHWH. Hebrews 7:8 In the case of the priests the tenth is collected by men who die ; but as for Melchizedek the tenth was collected by one who lives, as the scripture says. Maybe i m yet to understand you stands better.! |
pureminded:Like good a thing u trust ur friends to understand, wat happens if d case is contrary, like he has the ego stuffs and feels he should seat at the front? ![]() |
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=373458.msg5215828#msg5215828 date=1262171304]This is Autos!![/quote]And he is Tudor the genius. compliments |
chelseabmw: bro, the same issue dat gat me asking, like u were dating this stubborn and froward gal who is far younger than your dude who feels she should be all you are to think about, how do u fink you can manage her wrath wen the dude drops and she comes to the front seat |
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=373487.msg5215853#msg5215853 date=1262171572]A Girlfriend is for a while. . . . . A Wife is for a lifetime. . . . But Friends are forever!! My friends are important to me.[/quote]thanks dis a TRUE TALK, but wat happens wen u know she'll be the one. |
[quote author=Kenny_G link=topic=373487.msg5215742#msg5215742 date=1262170521]i always let ebonyeyes sit in front, [/quote]Bro, for real, like for real you choose your Gf(ebonyeyes) for your dude, is she dat ~~~, HMMM i wonder what the broda will be thinking at the back seat. ![]() |
Ebonyeyes:lol, wat has mams and paps got to do with my GF or BF seating on the front seat? |
Mr Kelly:U aint started, ever wondered y i call him the GRAND-DE-LORD.! ![]() |
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=373458.msg5215446#msg5215446 date=1262167439]My brother, its not toyotas fault. This incident was as a result of manipulation from the devil. The evil people in the village were jealous of your friend because he spent 3M on a car they then sent the evil spirits to kill him this december. Even if there were 1 million airbags they wouldn't deploy. The technologies and sophistication of toyota are no match for our okija juju. Hope your friend is okay?[/quote] ;Dhmmm interesting post from the grand-de-lord, and funniest of it was that the OP was answering him. |
Recently i thought of this, assuming i were to take my GF and my best friend out for a party who should seat at the front seat. If i let my friend to, my SHE might feel let down and if i do the other way, same could be the case. I thought to bring the question up here. let me know what your opinions are. |
Pastor AIO:Mr.AIO, let me stand to correct your ascertion abit. Because you have not come across a thing or done a search on it shouldnt mean one should come all here to say that such a thing never exists. The tithe you know from my understanding of your posts so far is more of the mosaic administrative form of tithing. The tithe practise by Abraham was the Ma'aser (the original tithe) and wat Moses taught and commanded the Israelites were the Bikurim and Terumat tithings, so if you're making your notions based on the later then i'll dat you read this Tithe - The Definition: (Tithe) (Hebrew “ma±¦´¢r”): Is defined as the custom of giving a 10th part of the products of the land and of the spoils of war to priests and kings (1 Macc 10:31; 11:35; 1 Sam 8:15,17)The custom is a very ancient one among most nations. That the Jews had this custom long before the institution of the Mosaic Law is shown by Gen 14:17-20 (cf. Heb 7:4) and Gen 28:22. A better rendering for the original word " ma±¦´¢r " means a standard of parting one's possession into 10 places and giving a 10th to a superior being mostly revered as a demi-god or priest to a god/goddess . It is a well- known fact that this custom dated before the advent of Abraham. Babylon was a nation/ people who performed this ritual before Abraham’s account and they called it -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The “Ma`aser”- In the time of Abraham According to the Genesis account, Abram, returning from a battle by the Dead Sea, was hailed by Melchizedek, king of Salem (Jerusalem) who was also the priest of El Elyon ("the Most High God" (Genesis 14:18):18. And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. 19. And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 20. And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all. (Genesis 14:18-20, Holy Bible, King James Version) When Melchizedek appeared and offered Abram bread and wine and blessed him in the name of God, tithes were exchanged. Later, in (Genesis 28:22), Abraham's grandson Jacob also made a commitment to give God back a tenth of his increase. Now a careful look at this will reveal that this act meant more of a lineage tradition to a personal practise. The case is that a good scholar will tell that not all acts of individuals were recorded ink for ink in the biblos (Bible) refer to >>>John 21:25 - And there are also many other things which Jesus did. If they should be all recorded one by one [in detail], I suppose that even the world itself could not contain (have room for) the books that would be written. AMP. Now if this is true, then a logical structure will show that if (Abraham)the Father tithed then (Isaac) the son must have tithed for the Grandson (Jacob) to have promised tithe. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “Bikkurim, Terumah, Ma'aser Rishon and Terumat Ma'aser” -In the time of Moses and Under Mosaic Law The tithe is specifically mentioned in the Book of Leviticus, the Book of Numbers and also in the Book of Deuteronomy. The tithing system was organized in a 7 year cycle, corresponding to the Shemittah cycle (You can google this for explanation). Bikkurim Tithe: is the custom of giving THE FIRST FRUIT as a practice commanded by God (Ex.23:19, Num.15:20, Deut.26:2) " The noun appears 16 times. The "first grain and fruit" harvested was to be offered to God Num 28:26 in recognition of God's ownership of the land and His sovereignty over nature. Bread of the "first fruits" was bread made of the first harvest grain, presented to God at Pentecost Lev 23:20. The "day of the first fruits" was Pentecost Num 28:26. Some scholars even argue that the offerings given by Abel was a tithe of his livestock (called Bikkurim) if you compare what he offered and what God commanded the Israelites in Num.18. Ma'aser Terumah Tithe: is the custom of setting aside a fixed proportion (Deut.12:11-. . ., Num.18:31) that is to be brought to the city of Jerusalem (The place God has chosen as a dwelling for His name), scholars believe Terumah tithe was same as what Apostle Paul commanded the Corinthian Christians in 1Cor.16:2 .Now some Christians argue that because it was not explicitly mentioned as tithe (but proportional collection) in the NT meant it was not tithe, now see it this way, when bible prophesied of a King to come, he was named as Emmanuel in the OT, when he was to be born in the NT he was named as Jesus, now can we say that Jesus isn’t the same thing as Emmanuel since he was not announced as such?. Ma'aser Rishon Tithe:This custom is what Moses commanded as the "the year of tithing" Deuteronomy 26:12-14 in which the Israelites set aside 10% of the increase of the land, they were to give this tithe to the Levites, strangers, orphans, and widows. These tithes were in reality more like taxes for the people of Israel and were mandatory, not optional giving. This tithe was distributed locally "within thy gates" Deuteronomy 14:28 to support the Levites and assist the poor. Terumat Ma'aser: The Levites, also known as the tribe of Levi, were descendants of Levi. They were assistants to the Israelite priests (who were the children of Aaron and, therefore,a subset of the Tribe of Levi) and did not own or inherit a territorial patrimony Numbers 18:21-28. Their function in society was that of temple functionaries, teachers and trusted civil servants who supervised the weights and scales and witnessed agreements. The goods donated from the other Israeli tribes were their source of sustenance. They received from "all Israel" a tithe of food or livestock for support, and in turn would set aside a tenth portion of that tithe for the Aaronic priests in Jerusalem and this was referred to as the Terumat Ma’aser. A memory lane through time will show that all nations of old practiced this act no little wonder we have the government system of tithing called Tax today. Romans, Greeks, Asian (minors and majors), the 3 American cardinals all practice tithing. |
@Poster, Thanks for you act of benevolence but i think you should read this Tithe – can it be substituted for freewill offering? Often atimes I hear people talk of choosing rather to give to the poor than give the church their due benevolence. Let’s see how the scriptures answer this one, Matt 26:6-13 6 While Jesus was in Bethany in the home of a man known as Simon the Leper, 7 a woman came to him with an alabaster jar of very expensive perfume, which she poured on his head as he was reclining at the table. 8 When the disciples saw this, they were indignant. "Why this waste?" they asked. 9 "This perfume could have been sold at a high price and the money given to the poor." 10 Aware of this, Jesus said to them, "Why are you bothering this woman? She has done a beautiful thing to me. 11[b] The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have me. [/b] With this passages I will class the so called-righteous Christians into verse 9,for they’ll rather chose to give to the poor and widows their offerings than give to the church, howbeit Jesus’ reply to them in verse 10 will forever remain supreme. Therefore let us give to God what is due God (Matt. 22:21), give to Caesar (beggars, poor, widows) what belong to them. In the Old Testament administrative tithing, Moses’ commanded them to set aside the tithes in the 3rd year and give specifically unto the strangers, widows and orphans. Simple!. An error it will be to try substituting the one for the other. Let freewill offering be given as freewill offering, and tithe be given as tithe, they have different names thus serve different purposes. |
KunleOshob:God's words are spiritual and to do a research on it means to STUDY TO SHOW ONESELF APPROVED UNTO GOD-2 Tim.3:16 One reason i can never get enough of you always too quick to ascert ![]() |
This thread jus gat me smiling and in this spirit i want to start with 1. KunleOshod: Bro, i must say that you are one heck of a guy , and I hail you for the consistent force you possess in the spirit of wisdom and might. Safe for my spiritual research on the subject of tithing and the fact that we all must not agree on things all the time i would have followed your understanding of the subject . Therefore let me say you are superb and i hope to learn more from you come 2010! [size=20pt]l[/size]2. Viaro : Dont know if you are my brother or sister, but one thing i know is that you are cut out in a world of yours like what grace will say you are one of a Kind , i must say i have learnt a thing or more from your style of presenting God's meal. Bravo pal. [size=20pt]l[/size]3. Jesoul: To me you remain my best sister in religious matters NL to be precise In some lessons i took, its told us that to know how sweet and appetizing a lipton bag is, pour in some hot water and let the flavor come out, but i guess i poured in alittle bit too much Pardon me!. I have always learnt a thing each time i read your posts, i mean it gat me reflecting on other subject i barely thought of. Compliments of the season to my Dearest Sister-Jesoul.! [size=20pt]l[/size]4. Tudor: Brother let the emoticons speak for me. Let me say [u]You are a genius, little mystery the screen keeps us from meeting some great folks like you. There is this force about you style and resilience and last but not the least is your STUBBORNESS. i wonder where he got that from. Heaven is prolly missing you and cant wait to have you join in already . A cephas i must say. Bravo bro![size=20pt]l[/size]5. Chukwudi44: Hmmmm, blessings and grace to you from our beloved mother Mary full and truth. pardon me i left catholic some 18yrs ago.. Let me say thanks for your prowess in archivial history of the church you are too much. Compliments ![size=20pt]l[/size]6. Deep Sight: You are one guy i m still finding hard to place in spirituality, there is something outstanding about your posts i keep learning, let me hail you for your spiritual muscles your shyly flex maybe reasons are sake of my level of understanding. did i just say that? . Compliments Bro![size=20pt]l[/size]7. Ttalks: Always coming from the blues to make the sky cyan. My hats are off in prostrate of you style. Compliments![size=20pt]l[/size] 8. Zikkyy: Hey zikkyy my men my men my men , just one sentence. you are a hidden gem.[size=20pt]l[/size]9. Ogajim: you r a [size=20pt]l[/size][size=20pt]l[/size] A Big shout outs to Banom ,Noetic15(hmmm somebody), Pastor AIO, Chrisbenogor, OOLADEGBU, Mazaje , A_K_O (the meek Moderator), respect to Manmustwac (you are unique from what i imagined), MavenBox (the babe is just too much, one star i respect secretly), Nuclearboy (Teach me great teacher ) Last is Davidylan (Congratulations on your award, well deserved,spitting wisdom in over 20,000 posts is not beans ). And to all my religious friends both Atheist, Agnostics and doctrinal christians i must say its been fun all the way. |
TtalksgatmelaffinginmozambiqueandrollingonthefloorlikeazuluwhenwillmyfriendslearntoapproachscriptureswithoutsentimentandirrationalmindsetwelllikeA_K_Osaidisecondtosaymatterconcluded ![]() |
ttalks:Sometimes i really wonder if ur posts were written out of hunger or something. i mean u were even rephrasing my points here. making me feel you're learning faster already. ![]() |
On the rise of crime we see in our world KunleOshod, will it be rational to equate the rise in crime rate to the proliferation of false teachers.? aint that parallel. i dont want to speak much, howbeit if you do mind, call me back. k? ![]() |
[quote author=A_K_O link=topic=370822.msg5178481#msg5178481 date=1261653559]Both of you are very correct ![]() Its funny how Tonye-t focused only on the money part and nothing else.[/quote]I was still typing more before you posted. ![]() Compliments of the season Mr.Moderator |
In speaking of the "scribes and the Pharisees", the forces controlling the society of his day, he pointed out striking similarities our church leaders of our modern age Let me also remind you of what the same Jesus christ taught Matt 5: 20[b]For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven[/b]. Do you also know that in the pretext of this scripture, Jesus was teaching of the value of His Father's word ( God's commandments ) and noted how that the Pharisees and scribes were so conscious of keeping God's commands. Therefore he warned the disciple ( You and Me) that inorder to experience the glory of His Father's kingdom we need to be more conscious in keeping this same God's commands . ![]() |
On the teaching of How the rich could follow Him 1 Tim 6 (NIV) 17 Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. 18 Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. 19 In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life. KunleOshod, if Paul attested to teaching as the Lord Jesus commanded, therefore wont i be wiser to ask why didnt Paul teach the christians in his time to part away with their belongings. So you see, again you quoted that scriptures out of context because many atimes it was recorded that the folks in Jesus' time asked him questions not because they wanted to learn but to test him and Jesus knowing their heart always came up with different strokes for different folks. There is nothing wrong as to having riches and wealth but there is everything wrong in holgind severe greed as to parting away with your riches and wealth. No wonder Paul taught His folks to be generous and willing to share as against your understanding as to totally part away with it.hmmmm |
2. On the danger of wealth: I can still say something rather i choose not to but leave you to your understanding. Am glad the scriptures you quoted also said something like "The Love of Money" which is the same thing i have explained up here as "agaloo ab' mammone" And Mr.Kunle firstly do you believe that the scripture is one, and that the same spirit that inspired Wise princes of the ancients was the same spirit that inspired Apostles of the latter (2Tim.3:16). If you do, then let me say that the money you are condemning as evil is what the bible says as - Money is a defense ( Eccl.7:12) - Money is the answer for everything ( Eccl.10:19) But like i said, money and wealth doesnt rep. evil, but the emotional love (agaloo) for money is what breeds evil - For the love (agaloo) for money is the root of all evil (1tim.6:10) Recall Paul didnt teach money to be the root of all evil, but the rather THE LOVE for money. Most times i wonder if you really search scriptures insightfully before coming to NL to confuse people, because someone reading those references of yours without firm knowledge of scriptures will hastily agree to your notions whilst wrong. ![]() |
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, lil stuffs like this are wat causes crazy ripples you cannever tell
But i trust my friends enough to offer my girl friend to seat at the front if it happens we are all zooming off at the same time! (real menz don't have problem wiv that)
