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Christianity EtcRe: The Teachings Of Jesus And The Realities Of The Church by Tonyet1(m): 11:55am On Dec 24, 2009
KunleOshob:
I am suprised my church/ pastor apollgist friends are yet to comment on this thread
I Know my brother has been expecting me to say something hence the reference in the quote, i laugh in Aramaic, however i will, but to xpose to you how immature/irrational and sentimental your understanding of the Scriptures and teachings of Christ could be.

Kunle pls permit me to say that all you wrote up there are nothing but Elementary teachings of Christ and realities we have heard time and time again that I teach to new babes in the ministry. Therefore let me start by teaching you what you think you know but do not.


Heb 6:1 - "Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God " (NIV)

1. The scriptural passage you quoted up there was quoted out of context, for you failed either by omission or commission to quote that what Jesus meant in that scriptures was that it was evil for one to have have emotional love and attachment for Money. Am glad you used Aramaic in your description, so let me do the same. The Aramaic rendering of that passage meant [u] we should not have agaloo for Mammone and the same time for YHWH for no one has ever been successful trying to love 'em both. That simply meant that it was no evil not to have riches but it was evil if we do so with our agaloo ( for agaloo had to do with loving with one's mind, strength, might and heart).

Now concerning weath/ Riches here's what Jesus said

Luke 16:9 - "And Jesus said: I tell you, use worldly wealth to gain friends for yourselves, so that when it is gone, you will be welcomed into eternal dwellings. NIV  wink wink
Christianity EtcRe: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by Tonyet1(op): 4:09pm On Dec 23, 2009
@ Enigma,

does that make the practise of tithing wrong? huh huh
Christianity EtcRe: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by Tonyet1(op): 1:47pm On Dec 23, 2009
Mr.Ogajim,

- If you're saying tithe started in paganism, then let me be plsd to inform you dat even praise and worship all started same time too wink wink whats really the big deal

- As per the Nigeria culture, that is what i call ANCESTRAL INSTINCT, which even tithe falls into

- Jesus' death had nothing to do with abolishing tithe, rather it does to put an end to Sin and death same for the resurrected and new man wink wink

- Yeah Christianity aint gat nothing to do with traditions, but recall ALL SCRIPTURES ARE GIVEN BY GOD [OT & NT] AND ARE PROFITABLE FOR DOCTRINES ever heard dat b4?

- Yeah Jesus is my Advocate too, but what roles have the Bishops and clergies got to do if not administer to our spiritual needs

- Did you say Freewill offering is what God only expects from us, it will please u to know dat the word [U] FREEWILL OFFERING [/U] never appeared anywhere in the NT, so where is your NT idealogy coming from cheesy cheesy

- Yeah no one can buy God's blessings, but Jesus told us [u] GIVE AND IT SHALL BE GIVEN TO YOU [/U]

my brother , there aint nothing you can do about it, tithe is still very much relevant today as everyother Christian basis does. wink wink

Compliments of the season!!!!!
Nairaland GeneralRe: Where Is Abuzola? by Tonyet1(m): 1:35pm On Dec 23, 2009
u can get him on twitter or facebook with his islamic crusade cheesy cheesy cheesy
Jokes EtcRe: Departmental Reaction To Appraisal by Tonyet1(m): 1:32pm On Dec 23, 2009
romsky:
Tonye u try o
dis is prolly d 4th time i'l b hearing dis from 'em SHEs, so what have i done na? undecided undecided huh
Christianity EtcRe: Prophet T. B Joshua by Tonyet1(m): 1:22pm On Dec 23, 2009
ok? so what!
Christianity EtcRe: Come See How Secret Cult Seat Mssn by Tonyet1(m): 12:41pm On Dec 23, 2009
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=370532.msg5170333#msg5170333 date=1261548510]Thunder fire you wherever you are.

Mumu. its people like you that stir up riots and wars in your childish urge for revenge, spilling innocent blood as well.

May you get hit by a bus and die. . .murderous pig![/quote]For once I and my kid brother are agreeing on something in NL. except for the hit by a bus and die , pardon him am yet to teach him more manners wink wink
SportsRe: Osaze As Eagles Playmaker? Your Thoughts & Opinions. by Tonyet1(m): 12:37pm On Dec 23, 2009
playmaker? Thought JJ said he was coming if conditions are met!   undecided
Jokes EtcRe: Departmental Reaction To Appraisal by Tonyet1(m): 12:33pm On Dec 23, 2009
lol, thought i was goin c sometin diff. * my ribs are cracking already*wen will SHE grow up cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Synagogue Church: A Woman Delivered A Snail. by Tonyet1(m): 1:57pm On Dec 21, 2009
gat me wondering too! dont even know what to believe again and what not to!
Christianity EtcRe: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by Tonyet1(op): 1:50pm On Dec 21, 2009
@Chukwudi44,

I must say you did a good job in the thread :The rise of a counterfeit christianity as i took my time to read your posts and make link searches to verify your claims despite the typos in your spellings, now that to me is how to discuss constructively and contribute too , but when someone jumps in from nowhere and write without going back to check others writings simply because you feel your opponent is wrong you choose not to read there posts is to me unreasonable.

Therefore i say that all your questions up here have been duly answered, so the best you could do b4 you counteract another is for you to quote their writings and make your oppositions. Its called matured argumentations.!
Christianity EtcRe: The Rise Of Counterfeit Christianity by Tonyet1(m): 1:42pm On Dec 21, 2009
@KunleOshod,

I must say a big thanx to you for this topic and the posts you made same for NuclearBoy and PastorAIO, you guys got me searching my biblos again cheesy cheesy.

In my remark, i w'll say this is REVEALING! smiley smiley But i keep wondering why my dear brother will never stop at mentioning or ascerting tithing as a mojor form of counterfeit christianity.it baffles me sha!
Christianity EtcRe: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by Tonyet1(op): 1:37pm On Dec 21, 2009
jcross22:
PAYING TITHE IS NOT THE PATHWAY WAY TO SUCCESS AND TO PARADISE WHAT IS THE ORIGIN OF TITHES, WHY ARE THEY GIVEN SUCH TASK IN THE WILDERNESS AND WHY DO JESUS CAME TO THE WORLD THESE QUESTIONS WE NEED TO STUDY IT IN OUR BIBLE . TITHE IS ONLY PAID IN THE TEMPLE OR SYNAGOGUE NOT IN CHURCH , IT IS PAID ONLY ONCE IN A YEAR OR EVERY 90 DAYS NOT EVERY MONTH, SUNDAY OR EVERY SERVICE AND TITHE IS ONLY MANDATED FOR THE LEVITE . CHURCH IS A BODY OF CHRIST AND AFTER THE DEATH OF CHRIST A NEW WAY OF WORSHIP WAS INVENTED EVEN IN THE TIME OF JESUS A NEW WAY OF PRAYING WAS INVENTED IN WHICH CERTAIN OF PROPHECY OF ISAIAH BECAME FULFILLED WHICH SAYS " I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISREAL "IF YOU LIKE PAY YOUR TITHES IF YOU LIKE DON'T PAY THAT WILL NOT ACCOUNT FOR YOUR STATUS BEFORE GOD . BUT REMEMBER IN MATHEW 24 V 7 TO 8 JESUS SAYS I SAY TO YOU GO I DON'T KNOW YOU B,COS I WAS IN PRISON YOU NEVER COME TO VISIT ME , WHEN I WAS THIRSTY YOU NEVER GIVE ME WATER BUT JESUS NEVER MENTION WHEN I AS CHURCH YOU NEVER GIVE ME YOUR TITHE , DO YOU SEE THAT IN YOUR BIBLE? IF THERE IS NO TITHE IN CHURCH WE WILL KNOW THE REAL MAN OF GOD .
Mr.Jcross22,

I simply do not understand what you seem to be writing up there. maybe the arrangements or the inorderliness?

And to reinstate my opinion, i am still saying with NT biblical evidences that Tithing is still relevant as Free-will offerings and other forms/modes of giving.

God bless you!
Christianity EtcRe: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by Tonyet1(op): 4:31pm On Dec 18, 2009
@ Jice,

All scriptures are given by the inspiration of God and are profitable for doctrines which is theology. wink

Thanx though are you a brother to
[color=#770100]iice[/color]?
Christianity EtcRe: Should We Stop Giving Tithe? by Tonyet1(m): 4:08pm On Dec 18, 2009
Zikkyy:
You will end up a clown if you continue down this path angry angry angry
undecided undecided undecided undecided if they called Christ a glutton how much more a clown. smiley smiley smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Should We Stop Giving Tithe? by Tonyet1(m): 3:55pm On Dec 18, 2009
@osaromike,

Zikkyy is very much correct, i suffered severely when i came in newly from wrong infos peeps give "stating that tithes are no longer relevant" can u imagine that with absolutely no reasons for their opinion but because some fake pastors used it falsely therefore TITHE SHOULD BE BANNED. imagine!however i will refer you to this thread click here so you understand what i went thru' from fallasy until i came to myself not too long and am now a crusader wink wink wink
Christianity EtcRe: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by Tonyet1(op): 3:48pm On Dec 18, 2009
TV01:
Tonye-t you can lie. Spiritualise it all you like by calling it worship. A disciple of Christ knows that he is only a steward. You cannot give to someone what is His and not yours in the first place. Christian imperatives are far higher. We are not law-bound, but spirit led. God forbid that bondservants of Christ become slaves of men.
See how he's contradicting himself, so what is expected of a steward.

>>>1 Cor 4:2

2 Here, moreover, it is required in stewards , that a man be found faithful.[/b]ASV


Faithful in what, dont let me teach you na, haba must i teach everything again

TV01:
Christian imperatives are far higher
Hmmm really? like higher than giving, like higher than worshipping God with our substance, like honoring God with the firstfruit of our increase. Imperative grammar indeed.

Prov 3:9-10
9.    [b]Honor the LORD with your substance
      and with the first fruits of all your produce
;
10.  then your barns will be filled with plenty,
       and your vats will be bursting with wine.
       NRSV

TV01:
falsehood upon falsehood. Go and sleep jo. Your whole life, entire being and existence are consecrated and if required consumed as a woirship offering to God.
Thank you very much, Flesh and Blood has not revealed this to you. cheesy cheesy, and to add, in our consecration/ worship to God how exactly should i show God i am set-apart if not to prove it.

Eccl 12:13
here is the conclusion of the matter:
Fear God and keep his commandments,
for this is the whole [duty] of man.
NIV


TV01:
Bobo whats your motivation? Apart form Filthy lucre that is?
To teach peeps the truth whoch i wasnt told until i learnt it the hard way. wink wink wink

TV01:
Truly men say that religion and politics are the cause of all the worlds wars/problems etc. While I do not subscribe to worldy sayings in their entirety, there're often nuggets of truth contained therein.
Double standard its called, no wonder i wont be surprised you dont even know the meaning of RELIGION to have used it there.

grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Should We Stop Giving Tithe? by Tonyet1(m): 3:28pm On Dec 18, 2009
Zikkyy:
But you need to show me how to complete it though. Still new around here.
Now you gat me tickled. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Should We Stop Giving Tithe? by Tonyet1(m): 3:02pm On Dec 18, 2009
Zikkyy:
your post is very valid.
Thank you very much. Far too kind!  wink wink wink and to add pls educated folks dont write phrase they write clause so complete it k? cheesy cheesy cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Should We Stop Giving Tithe? by Tonyet1(m): 2:04pm On Dec 18, 2009
KunleOshob:
Obviously you are now a self confessed hypocrite cos it is obvious even from your post that Jesus was addressing Hypocrites like you who were under the law. We true christians know that we are not bound by any Jewish laws tongue
Beautiful, just beautiful, now prove to me that TITHING IS A JEWISH LAW. or you'll remain the hypocrite!
Christianity EtcRe: Should We Stop Giving Tithe? by Tonyet1(m): 1:57pm On Dec 18, 2009
Zikkyy:
There is nothing for me to prove. Compulsory tithing for christians cannot be found in the bible. The onus is on you to prove that tithing is compulsory.
>>>Matthew.23:23 - Jesus said unto the Hypocrites, practise mercy [yes], practise faithfulness [yes], practise Justice [yes], and i say do not neglect to practise Tithe [yes]

Zikkyy, maybe i am yet to show you any "senseful" post because my posts seem contrary to your free-choiced tithing, which the above passage doesnt not validate. smiley smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Should We Stop Giving Tithe? by Tonyet1(m): 1:38pm On Dec 18, 2009
Zikkyy:
Only said it was your choice, Its your money.
Then good-a-thing, prove its a CHOICE.
Christianity EtcRe: An Evolving Religion- Cc Deepsight, Viaro, Mavenbox, by Tonyet1(m): 1:30pm On Dec 18, 2009
KunleOshob:
You see what brainwashiing causes. Yet if you ask the girl to show you one single scripture in the bible where Jesus claims to be God she would start adding 2+2 to get 10.
cheesy cheesy cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Truelly Coming Back - We Have Been Waiting 2000+ Years by Tonyet1(m): 1:28pm On Dec 18, 2009
@deep sight,

Deep Sight:
Keep waiting, keep hoping, no slackin, we mugus. . .
Hmmmm DeepLY INsightFUL indeed undecided undecided, interesting lets wait and see the real "MUGUS"

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