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shadeyinka:
The fact that you are an atheist is a direct consequence of the action of your mum.

You seem not to understand may take on this:
1. A woman who is already married to an atheist should not seek divorce. She should make the best out of her situation.
2. Such a Christian woman must obey her husband as unto Christ
3. A single Christian should not marry an atheist because not human being has the power to convert any man AND you cannot stop the Atheist husband having a negative spiritual influence over your children. It is not impossible that the woman herself stopped believing in God.

Numbers 1 and 2 is Scripturally based. Number 3 is common sense. A needless risk to bear!

My dear triplechoice, you are a good example of why the common sense in three is real

I am not a Atheist and there's no common sense in anything you have said.

You just jumped into conclusion without having enough information about me or my family background.

My Father was a vocal atheist but this didn't stop I and my other siblings, especially my immediate younger sister who at a time was greatly influenced by him, from attending Church and becoming Christians later in life.

So you can see that his influence counted for nothing, that is ,preventing us from becoming who we are later in life. I am not an atheist or a Christian today because. I know of the limitations of both position first hand from the experiences of my parents. So right now , I am in the middle; A skeptic and at the same time a spiritually conscious person . Nothing bad with that

I speak from my own life experience and I can certainly relate with the situation curenttly going on in the home if the op.. Its something
his children would greatly benefit from in the future

They would learn very well in that family setting how to use their head and heart in any given situation.
The head, from the father while the heart from the mum

Love is the only thing I think would make a believing Christian marry an atheist and for love sake, why are you against such a unoin?

shadeyinka:
I think you should have answered the question:

What happens if she (Christian wife) dies after giving birth to three children for her husband?. What is the probability that the children will know God. ?

Is this an impossible situation?

Your question is not well thought out . If you knew that not every Christian today is from a Christian home, then you wouldn't have asked it in the first place.

My father was an atheist while my mum a Christian. But today all my siblings excepting me are Christians .

You're just telescoping into the future and seeing things that may not happen.

Why is it difficult to see that he can become a Christian tomorrow? or have you not seen an atheist who later became a Christian.

Why the negative imagining?

budaatum:
By his fruits you do know him.

I doubt if he is married. What kind of woman would tolerate such an abusive character

shadeyinka:
I've not said anything different.

A true Christian who chooses to marry an atheist is a big fat fool as she thinks she's above the level of humanity.
What happens if she dies after giving birth to three children for her husband?. What is the probability that the children will know God. ?

It's like a pastor who allows a woman to touch him inappropriately in the name of spirituality. Such a pastor is a big fat fool.

You already quoted bible verses which made it clear that a believer who is married to an unbeliever should try as much as possible to tolerate and live in harmony with their spouse.

But no, you wouldn't have any of it and have taken sadistic delight in trying to upset the op by continually using all sorts of abusive names to belittle the wife.


are you a true Christian yourself? From your replies it's difficult to see you as one

What happens if he converts to christianity tomorrow and even end up as a pastor?

How would you then describe the wife?

One of my friends who is late now, was an atheist before he got married. But he ended up as a pastor through the influence of the wife.

His case is not unique. Look around and you will find the same .

Maybe you are God and case see till the end of time

Kobojunkie:
Again....

No. Never going to tell you. I expected it should be obvious to you.

If you don't want to see it yourself by reading again, then let's forget it and sorry I have to bother you

Kobojunkie:
what isit that you think I missed of your priest's "main argument"?

I am not a Christian, he is not my priest and I still stand by what I previously said.

The person who created this thread did so for a reason. Look for that and you would get it.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid your priest is in the wrong here. This is not really about minding one's business but instead respecting the CHOICES that others make for their on selves just as you except them to respect the choices you make in your own life.
You may not necessarily agree with their choices but one thing you certainly do not have is the right to dictate how any single human being can or cannot live, that right belongs to God.

You completely missed the priest main argument or the reason for his response.

If you had seen it, you would have known why the op created this thread

I advise you read again

chelsea04:
i have mention their attribute. Good ones are always few take note but it is only a strong man that can marry them are u strong

If you have a daughter with those attributes you mentioned, I hope you would accept immediately she is possessed?

Every problem has a solution. There's a reason pencils come with an eraser.

However ,there are valid reasons why certain solutions to some problems are not reveal to the public. It can be abused and lead to reckless behavior which can results in problems that are far more worse than the one the individual is trying to avoid.

So , if we don't have the remedy or antidote it's better to play safe than to use oneself has an experiment to determine if something can harm us or not.

But olosho must survive. There's a reason every society has them.

Gofuckyourself, abeg nor spoil their market o

@op

The man whose preaching you listened to is the cause of the things you experienced in your dreams and not the makeup.

The preacher has used "lies" thinking he is telling you the "truth" to distort your reality .

What you experienced has no basis in reality it's simply a figment of the preacher's own imagination which unfortunately you have been drawn into.

If it's actually true that make up is evil and results in what you have described, then a lot of maked up ladies every where would also report the same thing. Don't for once imagine you are special and for that God has given you those experiences to warn others. Everyone is special and equally important to God


And sorry to tell you this, what you're experiencing or have experienced is not normal but you think it is simply because it was triggered by someone whom you believe has told you the truth..

You can accept or reject anything I have said. It doesn't matter . But I know for sure that one of these days a brief moment of realisation would come when you would realise what has happened and I hope and pray that you find the courage to free yourself.

Koulture:


Well I listened carefully to her response,she only claimed she was been maltreated by the husband but never denied sleeping with apostle.

This season film go sweet die.

You're very clever

She may be innocent but she spoilt it when she accused her husband of having been paid to scandalize her..Like she was advised to say so to divert attention

She cannot be a judge in her own case

Kobojunkie:
Go to Home Depot, Walmart and Even the deserts of Arizona and you will find the same plant for a few dollars and change. Do you have a point of some sort to make?

Kobo, you have come again

Please, I am willing to learn from you why you think the plant offers no "spiritual benefits"

@op
If your religion works for you and brings you results that you think are worth it, then practice it peacefully while respecting the rights of others to live their lifes the way they want to.

These days people are now wiser and it wouldn't work if you want to use threats or lies in order to postulate them into joining you

The only thing that I think would work is when
practice your religion very well to the extent that others can see the good things it has brought into your life. That is the only time others may consider it.

If someone like shekau, the Muslim terrorist, comes to preach Islam to you, would you consider becoming a Muslim?

It's not true every one on Earth has a salt covenant with your God. You don't know the real truth about your religion. Those who know practice it with common sense .



Every religion was created by man and non is perfect. But as long as it makes you spiritually aware to the point you now treat others around you with love and concern, then focus on that and let everyone be.

HellVictorinho:
Define the spirits you believe in.
What are they made of
What are their functions
How do they occur

The discussion has been discontinued by me seeing that you have failed to grasp anything.

BTW where did I express any believe in spirit?

I am not what your assumptions have made you believe and so don't try to force anything on me.

Have a lovely weekend

HellVictorinho:
The truth is that spirits don't exist.

You are incapable of knowing if spirit or spirits exist or what it actually represents.

But you can still know if you want to

HellVictorinho:
Why won't I know if the universe has a source or a creator
I know that the universe cannot have a creator or a source because it's impossible for living things to precede non-living things or/and it is impossible for something (material) to be a source of another thing(material) except there is a third object that causes it to produce that thing.
I don't have to experience what is outside the universe in order to know there are things outside it.
It's a matter of logic.
Since the universe is actually something,then it has limits.
Since it has limits,there are other things except it instead of nothing.

Your argument rest on logic, a human construct which is never a perfect tool for determining the complete truth.about anything.

For instance, if all your life you have never tasted anything sweet or know of anything that is sweet, no amount of logical reasoning would make you know what it means to taste honey. The whole idea of honey being sweet or what it is would be lost on you if presented to you for the first time

So, for you to fully grasp what spirit means or represent, a direct experience of it is required and not mental gymnastics

And the best place to begin knowing the truth about spirit and the universe that we live in is from yourself.

Know thy self. I am sure you're familiar with this statement.

HellVictorinho:
Is this not what they call God?
Are you not the confused one??
Some people even say the universe is God.
You're saying the same thing I have heard before concerning the universe.
But I don't agree because it doesn't make sense.
It's not possible for the universe to have a creator or a source.

What is God?
If the universe has a source or a creator, it's not possible for you to know this because it's impossible for you to know anything beyond what you currently know or have experienced.

You seem to be certain that you know it all. So I ask, how can you be so sure of the knowledge that you have even when science is still trying to understand how the universe came into existence

Mind you ,I never said spirit created anything. I only said it's the source or original "material" from which everything is drawn from. Now who is confused here?

HellVictorinho:
What do you mean by everything that exists
Are you saying there is nothing except what you call everything?
Well, if a spirit refers to something (material),then it should have specific features or/and functions.
If a spirit refers to something (abstract),then it should be capable of being felt.
So,you shouldn't say I don't want to accept the reality of this or that.
The onus is on you to state what makes spirits a reality.
Furthermore,if there are more than one spirit,then it means there are more than one sources of energy for everything.
But how does that make sense??
What kind of energy are you even talking about??
That energy should have a specific name.

It appears I have created confusion by saying too many things. So I am going to simply redefine spirit.

Spirit is the true source of everything in the universe

HellVictorinho:
Well, I have heard several stories.

Your response already suggest to me that you're a sceptic who doesn't accept the reality of spirits.

Well, it doesn't matter what you accept or don't accept. The fact is that spirit is the original source energy of everything that exist. It's the energy which pervades all of life without which nothing can ever exist or have life.. Spirit can take on any form , visible or invisible and find expression in it

Spirit is what actually enlivens the human body and once that energy starts to ebb away then it wouldn't be long before the individual departs this plane of existence

For further discussion ,I would suggest will move this to one of your threads where you asked , what spirit is. I don't want us to derail this thread expect the owner gives us the permission to continue

HellVictorinho:
A definition that shows what they are made of or/and what they do.

Before doing that, I would like to know what previous knowledge or experience do you have of spirit (s) before now?

HellVictorinho:
You have not defined anything.
What are spirits??

What would you accept as the proper definition for spirits?

planetx:
The fact that the US presidential election were run locally is what made it easy for the Democrats to rig the election. The deciding votes that swung the election were in four democrat run predominantly black cities in four key battleground states. Philadelphia, Atlanta, Detroit and Milwaukee. No way would Trump have lost if the US practise a Nigerian style federal electoral system.

Please provide the proof that the election was rigged

So true.
A poorly educated person who graduated from a university in Nigeria lives under the false impression that he or she knows it all or can know it all.
Such persons hardly accept their mistakes when you try to point out to them and would continue to repeat such mistakes until they become undone by it

This is why such persons are a danger to themselves and those close to them

An illiterate person is aware of the limitations of his or her education and usually is willing to listen and learn but some of the so called graduates we have these days in Nigeria assume they know it all and are not willing to listen and learn.

Righteousness2:
That was the star of Bethelehem appearing for the First time in 1000 years.
It has made three appearances and this is its 3rd and Final appearance.

It First appeared on the Day JESUS was born ( which is the Christmas Day we celebrate here on Earth.

It's a Major sign for what is about to Hit the Earth.
The RAPTURE is upon us Folks..
Let's not Deceive ourselves ooo..
Are u Ready??
Accept JESUS and do away Completely with all forms of Evil , sin and Iniquity

Stop the lies and the fear mongering . The event has nothing to do with the birth of Jesus neither has it anything to do with something "about to hit it the Earth."

Your imagination is the cause of your fears .clean it up and have peace of mind

I think she responded that way because you were prejudging her.

You are not yet married to her and she has not fully started the business to know how she would handle the money that would come from it but you already can see into the future to know how she would behave.. Haba !



IMO you were too blunt are direct and most ladies don't like this There's a proper way to go about this to get her to act the way you expect. You may have offended her without realising it.



You're already putting pressure on her for a marriage she has not entered into and a business she has not fully started..

You already should know the kind of person she is dating her. Selfish or not and a selfish person is a selfish person anywhere and anytime

Your are lucky she is completely depending on you if not she may consider ending the relationship.

Na wife you wan marry nor be girlfriend. Take advice from those who are already married and have experience in this kind of situation.

Don't take serious her response. You would be surprised she would act differently by the time she gets married to you .

Na so most women dey do.Dem nor dey answer straight ..e nor easy to understand some of them


There are certain things you can know about a woman without directly asking her. If you go direct ,she can take offence and you may lose her.

Good info. Witchcraft is actually autosuggestion and most people engage in it unknowingly

fireback:
it's just another Ponzi scheme but might Last longer than mmm. yes it will make some people rich while some will be trapped at the end of it. if you want to invest, don't invest with your last kobo. invest with amount you can afford to loose. remember, not everyone who participated in mmm latter commit suicide. those who tried to commit suicide at end of mmm where the greedy ones and late comers.

How reasonable is it to call something Ponzi without any proof?

I am going to advise from my own experience and those of others that I know

If you're a non religious person who is searching for partner in a society like ours, the first thing you need to do before you start your search is to temporarily drop whatever biases you may have against religious people. If not, you would unconsciously say and do things in their presence that would put them off or act in ways which seems odd to them without you realising it and when they start to avoid you, you cannot understand it.

Don't forget that women are very sensitive . They already can sense what to expect immediately you annouce who you are.

So I think you should keep your atheism in your pocket and pretend. There's nothing wrong with that. By the time they get to find out who you are later, they would have already accepted you as friend . Then you can proceed from there

There's nothing wrong if you follow them to church.


Just play along and I advise you focus your search anongs moderate Christians.

These set of believers are those who know the "real truth" about what they believe in.but are not willing discus or engage in any argument with anyone about it.And they have chosen to remain Christians for personal reasons . You can easily find them in the orthodox Churches .Catholics, Anglican, Methodist and so on.

Go there and look for your wife and forget about trying to change them so they can think like you. And also don't bother whether your kids would get indoctrinated when you get married to them

These days with the coming of the internet it's never really easy to completely indoctrinated anyone. Unlike in the past, people now have easy access to information that would make it difficult to completely deceive them

The world is changing and in some few years to come alot of people in this part of the world would abandoned their religion. It's already happening.

So don't bother yourself over nothing. Keep on searching you will find

pakpan89:
We are spending our money, yet it's paining you. Why? Besides, this is not your post. Why not go and create your own post and market what you want to market. If you see me there, you drive me away. I'm not a parasite. I don't parasite and insult People on their post. That's childish. Bad belle. Park well. If you can't beat us, join us. You met this business when they started the version 2 called Chymall. You were not there when we started Sairui that we started trading with N20,000. Anyway, thank you for writing and helping out my post in the front and at the top.

Oh very good.

Nothing bad with trying to assist people but don't make things difficult for others who also trying to market the same product.

You assume I just started. You're wrong .

Why opened a thread on the middle of this year to promote an investment package with the old price of 20k?

If you doing the same thing as others why are you still stuck in the past? We are in 2020 not 2019

Sorry if my previous reply caused offence. But I hope you know understand why?


Others are also involved in sponsorship and I have done that too.So I don't have any bad belly.
Good day

pakpan89:
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You're a desperate person . No apologies for that.

If your team is giving discount why the deception to make it seem that chymall is part of what you're doing.

There's no package of 20k that would earn you 5k in chymall.

If you're helping people to get registered by subsidizing the packages for them then don't hide under chymall to do it.

I repeat you're a desperate person.I would be reporting what you're doing here to the right people to take action

By this, T. B Joshua has only succeeded in exposing himself as a scammer.

He is demanding for something, he surely knows no government in the world would accept.

Unfortunately, his zombie followers who have been brainwashed beyond repair would take this has evidence that he has the power to heal people.

If only people knew the so many gullible people who have lost their lives by abandoning their medications after believing they have been heal by this scammer, he and his likes would have since gone out of business.
But it's only a matter of time, because people have started to wake up everywhere