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Business / Re: Arik's Horrible Customer Service by truly: 6:04pm On Sep 13, 2010
Please note Arik's ad in today's ThisDay

“We lose N120billion to Foreign Airlines Yearly”
- Dr Harold Demuren

……help stop Capital Flight

Fly Arik Air, Truly Nigerian
Business / Arik's Horrible Customer Service by truly: 6:03pm On Sep 13, 2010
A friend forwarded this to me
It is lengthy and interesting, but would have been unbelievable but for the facts cited

"A Case Study on Customer Service,
It's only in our beloved country that this happens without an ensuing law suit.
God help us!

From: Anthonia Opara
Sent: 31 August 2010 15:44
Subject: A FLIGHT EXPERIENCE ON ARIK AIR

Flight Ticket
By Mr. Akaninyene Inyang
Dear Mr. Brunner: First of all, I want to thank Mr. Dele (Supervisor in Arik Airways New York office) who took my call on 09 August 2010 . Per our conversation, I am following up that phone call with a formal letter of complaint regarding my recent experience on Arik Airways.
I have included with this letter a copy of my ticket on your airline, flight 108 and 107, flight cancellation notice given to passengers at Lagos International Airport. Also included with this letter is a copy of my New York itinerary with appropriate email confirmations from orbitz and Delta Airline Ticket & Invoice. Below is a written account of my experience as explained to Mr. Dele over the phone:
On 5th August 2010, my daughter (3 years old) and I arrived Lagos International Airport from Calabar (local airport in Nigeria) at 1730hrs to board a scheduled return International flight to JFK New York with Arik Airways (Arik Air 107). We were informed (alongside other passengers) that the flight was canceled due to aircraft technical issues. We were told to return the next day for a tentative flight that was scheduled to depart by 1800hrs. The Arik Airways Airport Manager, Ms. Adaobi Molokwu then told us that Arik Airways will not provide accommodation & feeding for passengers and will not be liable for connecting passengers who will miss their connecting flight in New York JFK due to the flight cancellation. Ms. Molokwu was extremely uncooperative in assisting passengers or addressing our concerns. The same attitude was exhibited by other Arik Airways staffs that were present. One pregnant Arik Airways staff member said "when we the passengers were tried of complaining, we will return home". They ignored us, while they all stared at their computer screens. They would not respond to many of our questions. This lack of concern from Arik Airways airport management and staff, angered the passengers greatly and resulted in several heated exchanges. Due to all the frustration from them ignoring us, I became vocal and demanded answers to our concerns by turning the computer monitor away from the closest Arik staff. This led to the staff member jumping to his feet to start a fight with me and the other passengers. In the process I was shoved into a 3ft wide X 4ft long window, which broke and injured me. I was bleeding heavily from my right hand. The commotion inside Arik Airways office alerted the Nigerian Aviation Authority, so they came to find-out what was going on. Arik Airways did not provide any medical treatment for my injuries, the Aviation Authority were the ones that called in a paramedic to clean my cuts.
The Aviation Authority on arrival calmed all of us down and moved all passengers including Ms. Molokwu, to their office and we commenced dialogue for the first time since the ordeal began. During the meeting, Ms. Molokwu still insisted that Arik Airways will not provide accommodation but the Aviation authority reminded Ms. Molokwu that it is the responsibility of the Airline to provide accommodation for all passengers in situations like this. Ms. Molokwu was forced to oblige and agreed to make accommodation available. However, once we were outside the Aviation authority's office, Ms. Molokwu decided to provide accommodation to passengers that could prove that they entered Lagos airport via a transport mode that originated outside of Lagos . This decision further infuriated the passengers. After several rounds of another heated argument between passengers and Arik Airways Staffs, some of us were finally taken to a sub-standard hotel at about 2200hrs. We were reminded that our flight would depart the next day by 1800hrs tentatively.

The next day 06 August 2010, a bus picked over 30 of us from the hotel, and we arrived the airport at about 1500hrs. When I tendered our U.S. passport (my daughter & I) to the check-in staff, he turned it over to another man that was standing with Ms. Molokwu, who confiscated them. He walked up to me accompanied by Ms. Molokwu and introduced himself as the person in-charge of Arik Airways security. He commanded us to hand over our luggage to him and then follow him. At that point Ms. Molokwu looked at me and my daughter and said "I am going to teach you a lesson". They took us away from other passengers to a secluded room. While there I was informed by the Arik security officer that a compliant was filed against me for damages to the company's property. He then told me that I had to pay the equivalent of $1,200 USD (180,000 Naira, Nigerian currency) before we could fly. The Aviation authority official present reminded him that this case was settled yesterday during the meeting we had but the Arik Airways security staff insisted that Ms. Molokwu had lodged a fresh compliant. We were detained for about 3hrs without access to food, or water. Our luggage was taken away from our sight, our passport was held as ransom for us to pay the alleged damages to Arik Airways property.

For fear of my 3 year old daughter becoming too traumatized from the stress we were going through, I offered to get a guarantor for them but Ms. Molokwu accused me of trying to run away by playing tricks on her, she then said she will not let us get away. The Aviation Authority personnel then pleaded with her to be merciful and understand that we are still her customers and that she was making a mountain out of a mole hill. Seeing her rigid position, I then offered to pay her with my credit card but she outwardly laughed at me and said that Arik Airways 'does not use credit cards'. She said she will only receive cash from me. I reminded her that I used the same card to buy my ticket but she replied by saying that it was done on the internet and not in the office. I scrambled and came up with $700 USD and offered it to her but she turned around and said I was wasting her time. I looked down to my daughter and I could see the pain she was going through. She was uncomfortable throughout our stay in the hotel the previous night, she refused to eat any food offered, and now we were under detention for daring to ask for our right as air passengers.

Out of compassion, Mr. S.M Mamman (Aviation Authority Secretary) gave me $500 USD of his own money (as a loan) just to free us from the abuse Ms. Molokwu was meting out to us. Mr. Mamman however made Ms. Molokwu promise to put us on the flight leaving by 1800hrs for JFK as a condition for receiving the money. She agreed but after her security officer took the $1,200 USD, she then said that It was no longer possible for us to make the 1800hrs flight. I requested a receipt of payment for what she claimed I had damaged but I was told that the agent that gives out receipts was not available. She (Ms Molokwu) then said we had to stay behind and join another Arik flight on Sunday 08Aug10. I requested to be put on a Delta flight that was leaving in 4 ½ hrs but they just ignored my daughter and I. Ms. Molokwu walked away and left us behind with her security officer. I then enquired if it was okay now to release our passport to us which he did. They left us to cater for our transportation and lodging needs. Not one staff of Arik management apologized for all the trouble they put us through; rather we were treated as criminals.

I then took my daughter to Delta booking office and paid $4,397.43 USD (with the same credit card Ms. Molokwu refused to take) for a one way ticket from Lagos - New Orleans . I was reliably informed by another passenger Mr. Verem Turugty who was also a witness to our ordeal at Lagos, that the Arik flight that left Lagos at 1800hrs, arrived JFK by 2330hrs on 07Aug10. Most of the passengers on that flight including him ended up sleeping at the airport due to the arrival time and the lack of out-going flight from JFK at that time. This was further compounded by the lack of Arik Airways representative at JFK to attend to passengers needs. Mr. Turugty told me that he could not find one passenger on that flight that was pleased with the treatment they received. On his part he is willing to testify to the accuracy of the account of event I have narrated.

This is the first time I have flown with Arik Airways. Our departure Flight on 19Jul10 was about 2hrs late to depart JFK, which meant that, our flight was late in arriving Lagos , Nigeria . We ended up missing our local connecting flight with Aero contractor to Calabar. We were stranded in Lagos that night and had to pay $233 USD to acquire another flight the next day for Calabar. The cancellation of the return flight on 05Aug10 meant that our connecting flight from New York - New Orleans was missed, which cost us $299.80 USD to purchase. The stress and strain this ordeal has taken on my family is unimaginable; my wife was on the phone all night & day on 05Aug & 06Aug and was forced to take 2days off from work (losing over $750 USD in revenue plus cost of local/international calls), talking with different travel agents trying to arrange flights for us. My parent's in-laws and parents in Nigeria were very worried about our fate especially when they couldn't reach me by phone while we were under detention. Financially we are at a loss of over $7000 USD plus the pain and suffering we have experienced. My 3 year old daughter told my wife on our return that "she does not want to visit Nigeria again". Her statement broke my heart because she was very excited to see her grand parents before our departure. I don't know what my wife and I will do to help her get over the psychological damage she went through, we are also at a loss reggaerding how to recover financially and emotionally from this sad event. I will never wish this experience on my worst enemy.

Thank you."


A commenter added this

"We all have our various unsavoury experiences with this airline. They have the worst customer service culture I have ever experienced.
I was once on a local flight where a cabin crew insulted a female passenger(with children) and to my dismay proceeded to report to the pilot who came out of the cockpit to announce he was delaying the flight for 15 minutes as a sanction."
Politics / Re: Jonathan Replaces Police Boss And Service Chiefs by truly: 9:44am On Sep 11, 2010
~Bluetooth:

Sorry to say,I'm not a jonathan fan at all. . .so would be pleased to answer my question since you now know that i'm not asking you those questions cuz jonathan is my favourite.
was there any time buhari acted like a democrat ? If yes,why did he truncate shagari government ?. . .i need just a yes or no not stories from you.
It would really be useful if you read my posts
I have answered that question

However since you want just yes or no
YES - BUHARI has acted like a democrat

He contested elections
He went to court to contest the result when he was disatisfied
He accepted the court decision even though it was close 4-3 in favour of an incumbent president

I have demonstrated good faith in answering your questions
But you keep repeating it
Whilst you refuse to answer ANY question put to you

BTW - was Shagari such a democrat?
If yes, why did he arrest journalists and charge them for sedition
Why did he deport an elected opposition party member - Shugaba - without due process?
  Why did he use the police force to truncate the eleltoral choice of Nigerians

If you are not GJ's fan, who are you for?
If you are asking hard questions about Buhari, but not asking any about GJ, what is the effect
Bad press for Buhari, but neutral for GJ - is that being against somebody

BTW, the Nigerian people welcomed Buhari's coup
Politics / Re: Jonathan Replaces Police Boss And Service Chiefs by truly: 9:20pm On Sep 10, 2010
~Bluetooth:

Who were the ordinary nigerians that supported the coup ? Please i want to know and for the fact that a overthrown a civilian government made him monstrous than ibb that overthrown a military government.the bottomline still remains that Buhari does not respect any democracy.
Ordinary Nigerians = students, market women, artisans workers etc
This is the truth
Go and check old newspapers

BTW your question - who is a democrat?
(a) A civilian who rigs election, amends the constitution to perpetuate himself in power - Obj qualifies eminently
(b) A former coup plotter who is now seeking office by democratic means

Eisenhower was Supreme Commander of Allied Forces - at this time he was a dictator
He went ahead to become US president

Answer = Democrat = B and Buhari qualifies

My own question - can you really trust GJ with (i) national treasury and (ii) the diligent prosecution of the corruption fight
Yes or no
Politics / Re: Jonathan Replaces Police Boss And Service Chiefs by truly: 9:08pm On Sep 10, 2010
babasoty:

- number one kolade's panel was set up to investigate all decisions and contracts made by the abdulsalami government not the PTF, its scope did not cover the PTF  which buhari headed.
- about the 53 suitcases and buhari blaming atiku this was lifted from http://atikuforpresident2011.com/?p=120 [b]"Atiku was a Customs Officer for twenty years, rising to the rank of Deputy Director. While serving as a Customs officer in charge at the Murtala Muhammed International Airport Lagos in 1984, then came the infamous “53 suitcases” scandal belonging to the late Emir of Gwandu. According to Professor Wole Soyinka, who records, “Not only did Buhari dispatch his aide-de-camp, Jokolo…to facilitate the entry of those cases, he ordered the redeployment…of the Customs Officer (Atiku) who stood firmly against the entry of the contravening baggage” (The Guardian, Feb. 6, 2007, p2)." [/b], you see the version you gave was buhari's own now i'm giving you atiku's own which implicated buhari, come to think of it atiku was just a customs officer and buhari was the CIC, which was higher in heirachy, who would give the order,
- was shipping dikko in a crate a good thing, are you justifying kidnapping someone to face charges a better way to resolve dikko's corruption charges, we all saw the backfire it had on Nigeria's image and the image of Buhari as a violator of human rights
- TT and NI were highly rated journalists in Nigeria as at then, thank heavens u said the decree was too harsh not only was it, it was draconian and a method of curbing free press, IBB even had to copy it too
- Tam david-west is a die hard supporter of buhari even going as far as writing a book"  the 16 sins of buhari "where he tried as hard as he could to defend buharis decaying image but he failed in selling his image because Nigerians know better,

I am not praising Jonathan i am only saying lets give him a chance to work before we judge him.

Obasanjo investigated PTF
The board of PTF was scrapped in 1999 and replaced by an interim management committee on PTF
This was headed by Dr. Haroun Adamu
Its remit

   * to ascertaining all monies accruing to and received by the fund from inception,
   * to ascertaining the state of all bank accounts operated for the whole period of its existence,
   * to producing an up-to-date comprehensive projects and programme report,
   * to producing a final report of assets and liabilities,
   * to uphold the sanctity of all contracts entered into by the fund, but review all contract agreements which are not in the best public interest and
   * to renegotiate cost of projects, programmes and or services to reflect the financial realities of the fund

You asked why Buhari placed Shagari under house arrest while Ekwumeme was jailed?
  the ethnic innuendo was unmistakable in your question and addresssed it by pointing out that
He crated a fellow northerner but left a southerner alone - so he is not such an ethnic bigot

As regards the issue of whether I support kidnapping? - let us face brass tacks here
 Was Dikko guilty of corruption or not?
 Was he hiding in the UK without any progress on the extradition application or not?
 Nigeria was under adverse conditions and the looters are thumbing their nose at us from abroad
Do I support it? I do - unequivocally. And Gani Fawehinmi did.

Was it kidnapping? No, it was self help effort to arrest a fugitive
If you stole N1m, can you run? If I did the same thing, I cannot run away -
  Nig Police is empowered to use reasonable force to bring suspects in
  Will bringing you in amount to kidnapping?
A Nigerian running from justice is a fugitive whether he is in Ogarra or in London
What is the difference between Ibori and Dikko?
Ibori had even been cleared of 170 charges by a court before a massive manhunt was launched for him
Why is Ibori on his way to the UK? Co-operation and extradition
Do you think if a Briton did the same thing, we would not have extradited him pronto
  If we were to get a way to bring  all the crooks in Abuja to a place where we can make them cough out what they have been stealing  since 1999, I would support it heartily
Please don't let allow these people to use some subterfuge to hoodwink us
   UK, Russia or US will snitch anybody who is important to them from anywhere in the world - that is reality

Do you think the press is really free in Nigeria? And do you know what a corrupt press can do?
Today everybody keeps claiming that Danbazzau deployed soldiers to the Airport without informing Johnathan
He has denied it and explained that the brigade of guards does not report to him - people still believe that falsehood
they followed it up by saying that the man said that he is only loyal to Yaradua
He asked that people should mention where and when he said it
They now kept quiet
Do you know what such do to to careers and lives - people are just accusing the man of high treason
Now that GJ is president I hope they will also believe that the BoG will also not report to the new CAS

About journalists being respected - do you remember the case of Azu of The Punch and the link to Reuben Abati?
Anyway, what do you think will happen if there is a serious false report about Johnathan?
Do you remember what Obj did to those guys who said he bought a Tokunbo aeroplane?

How did Tam David West become a die-hard supporter of Buhari?
He must have seen something in the man

Let me jog your memory, Buhari said his administration was an ofshoot of the Murtala/Obasanjo regime
They no longer see eye to eye

That means the guy can work with southerners - IG, Minister of Petroleum, NNPC GMD etc
Politics / Re: Jonathan Replaces Police Boss And Service Chiefs by truly: 7:50pm On Sep 10, 2010
~Bluetooth:

ok no problem. . .did buhari ever acted or thought of being a democrat ? If yes,why did he truncate shagari government ?
I hope you know that Museveni, Kagame, Mubarak are democrats. Are they not?
You remember the number of people who died in Ondo State in 1983 because NPN wanted to capture the state by force
And Oyo state, the fake policemen who were killing people in Ife and Ibadan

Were those democractic processes?
Democracy was made for people
I don't think anyone wants to be part of a democracy that resulted into large scale killing of people

How come virtually everyone welcomed the Buhari coup
Also remember that there were two issues - political and economic
- a crisis of legitimacy, large scale looting and harsh economic measures
Akinloye (NPN chairman) celebrated his birthday with a specially made champagne
Yet the country was undergoing austerity measures - in place since 1982

If you care to know, people often mutter these days (yes in 2010) about a Rawlings-like solution in Nigeria
in the face of the sums being paid our legislators
Even Ope Agbaje, BusinessDay columnist wrote about it
People see democracy as a means to a better life; not an end in itself - this is not sentiment
Let us see if people will not openly call for truncation of democracy, if our legislators continue to award themselves obscene benefits
in the face of severe hardship
Politics / Re: Jonathan Replaces Police Boss And Service Chiefs by truly: 5:47pm On Sep 10, 2010
babasoty:

let the other contenders muscle out GEJ, but now its a different ball game and if you read the link i posted you'd see that the ball has already been set rolling for its implementation, if you think it is easy to rule as in the case of fashola would his achievements ever warrant a probe,  you should come to bayelsa at least i work here there are people who would boast of his achievements in office being governor for 14 months only and saying buhari is not corrupt that i totally disagree, PTF was a cesspool of corrupt practices while he held sway there, every body who could bare a name that sounds northern could get a contract there, were all the contracts given out in PTF executed no way, people say he wasn't corrupt but the contractors were negligent in their jobs who are we to blame for that is it not the awarder of the contract, i put some questions there for anyone defending buhari to please answer, please Buhari is no saint either with his antecedents as a military dictator and draconian rules i think he is worse off than Jonathan
So it is now a matter of might is right - no morality? I wonder why Fajuyi died with Ironsi and Abdusalaami handed over power so early
And why should people enter into agreements they don't want to obey
So this is the reason why the man believed that he could toy with FIFA?
Can I trust him?

As for Fashola, why should we just assume because somebody is "performing", he should not be probed
The tax payers are audited to confirm the exact amount of tax they should pay
But a governor (who does not pay tax BTW) cannot be audited?

Why do we have an auditor general with a budget and staff then?
Can we not vote into office people who are ready to submit themselves to rules that are observed all over the world
Why can Clinton submit and it is hard for our civil servants
If it is so hard why do they kill their opponents - because they love us so much?
Eg why would Daniel not allow a public debate of a state matter - why is it so hard in Nigeria?

You disagree that Buhari is not corrupt
that PTF is such a cesspool
Wound up in 1999
and among the institutions probed by Kolade panel set up by Obj
Yet no charge brought against him by an opponent with whom he did not and does not see eye to eye

What should I believe? - the inaction of an Obj who embarassed Atiku, Alams, Dariye, Sunday Afolabi, Tafa Balogun etc
and sent his opponents into oblivion in the most crude manner (Ogbeh, Okadigbo, Anyim etc)
and indicted Tejuoso who was not even in government when that guy wanted to contest against Iyabo
But somehow did not lift a finger against Buhari
  or statement made by you - not in position to make official/legal inquiries - that Buhari is corrupt?

And why do I like Buhari and dislike about GJ - sincerity/insincerity
I may be mistaken - but I am being honest
Politics / Re: Jonathan Replaces Police Boss And Service Chiefs by truly: 5:21pm On Sep 10, 2010
babasoty:


Can the buhari fans answer this questions

- The N1.2 Billion that got missing at the Petroleum Ministry that Fela sang so loudly about was under Buhari's watch.

- The Kaduna Refinery was meant for Lagos at Inogbe Island with jetty already constructed, he took it to Kaduna as Minster of Petroleum.

-What was in those 53 luggages brought in by his in-law that he sent his ADC to go and clear at the MMA at a critical stage that we were changing Nigerian Currency, we may never know.

-Who owns the company that he appointed at the agent to NPTF and why was project initiations so heavily tiltled in favor of the North?

-Why did he jail Ekwueme and put Shagari under house arrest? how did Uba Ahmed the Secretary of that government "escaped" or "vamoosed" after he was arrested at that time?

-Why is it that soldier were breaking into people's warehouses to loot and forcibly sell goods with impunity and in the crudest manner ever existed anywhere during his regime?

-Why was Tunde Thompson and Nduka Irabor jailed for reporting the truth under the draconian and infamous Decrees 2 and 4

-What about the executive murder of Bernand Owoh, Ojuolape and one other?

-He cancelled meal subsidies in our higher institutions when we can afford it, did mass retrenchment in civil service, increased school fees at the same time and then embark on destroying the shops of the wives that would have helped out during his draconian reign and arrested kids who dare hawk for the family.

Some have tried to justify these nonsense with suceeding in asking us to line up at bus stations, excuse me!

His reign was one of the worst Nigeria ever witnessed.
Fela sang loudly - is that evidence? Do you remember Tai Solarin and Ebony magazine. Did Tai Solarin's read that story in Ebony magazine
You know some people can use that phantom Ebony story in a whispering campaign against someone now if the person is contesting
How come Obj did not use this matter to campaign against Buhari in 2003 and 2007
How come the Kolade panel that Obj set up shortly after assuming office in 1999 never mentioned it

You really expect me to believe that a minister! can move a  REFINERY under a military government? P-l-e-a-s-e

The 53 suitcases were not related to Buhari. He has asked people to go and ask Atiku who was the customsman on duty on that day to explain

I hope we know what is happening these days.
Last week Next published a story that was critical of GJ - some people were asking for the source
But when the same Next said in Jan that Yaradua was brain dead, NOBODY asked for the source
Indeed any story about Cabal and Turai was believed as if they were proven truths
We are human

Why did he ship Dikko in a crate and left Adisa Akinloye alone?

How did previous governments tackle hoarding?

He did not murder those guys - they were trafficking in cocaine
Singapore, malaysia, China etc still excute drug pushers today
  and one of the reasons why a chinese can bring 450kg of cocaine to Nigeria
  and Wunmi would be fined N1m for cocaine trafficking and Tochukwu was executed in Singapore for being an innocent carrier

TT and NI did not report the exact truth
Agreed, decree 4 was harsh but remember that due to the false allegations made by journalists against him, he was nearly court martialled

and you are using the same false allegations today
(as an aside if you get close to journalists some of them would confess to you their atrocities)

It is nonsense to queue at bus stations, but you are praising it now that Fashola is doing it with BRT (honesty?)
Running after buses, shoving and picking purses in the process was a better alternative?

Please let us be honest Nigeria could not afford meal subsidies when Buhari took over
evidence - Awo wrote to Shagari about the dangerous economic situation in 1980; shagari said it was a lie
Shagari faced up to reality in 1982 by passing the economic stabilisation act into law - it introduced austerity measures
Buhari came into power in Dec 1983; things had gone worse - please ask people

Buhari appointed credible people into office
Tam David West was Minister of petroleum, and he championed counter trade to avoid the opec quota constraints
Nigeria was spending 42% of earnings on debt service. He did not take the loan - please remember
How much would have been left for meal subsidies and such things.
(BTW and I know that GJ is trying to remove fuel subsidy while people say we can afford it. The argument is stronger now for retention of the subsidy given the % of national budget that go to legislature and executive)

Remember that it took 23 years later for Obj to eventually get the debt problem out of the way in 2006
Note that GJ is beginning to pile up debts again

The irony of all these is that there is always somebody to praise the government in power

You have said nothing was done in the power sector in the past 7 years
Yet a lot of people were praising Obj 5 years ago

Now you are praising GJ
whose wife is very corrupt and greedy
who was trying to justify Iwu's work, claiming that he had conducted 2 credible elections with Iwu and only capitulated under US pressure
who has not done anything to take a firm stand against corruption
Politics / Re: Jonathan Replaces Police Boss And Service Chiefs by truly: 4:40pm On Sep 10, 2010
~Bluetooth:

why should i enlighten when you've already called those allegations against him as campaign of calumny. . .the fact is that Buhari is no different from the other ex-generals,
You asked me a question, I answered
When it is your turn, you refuse and just make a sweeping statement

So Obj, Abacha, Ironsi, Gowon, Nzegwu, IBB, Buhari are the same
Then why should I not vote for Atiku since all civilians are also the same?
Politics / Re: Jonathan Replaces Police Boss And Service Chiefs by truly: 4:36pm On Sep 10, 2010
babasoty:

Ok lemme reply to your comments, i hope we keep it constructive and learn from each other, yes you rightly said there was zoning in pdp in 2003 but what was the morality for Abubakar Rimi contesting, He was a founding father of pdp, why wasn't he stopped by the party, the party knew it could not stop him in court they allowed him contest and muscled him out in the primaries, yes they say zoning but legally can they stop anyone from contesting absolutely NO, they can't they couldn't stop Odili, Duke and the rest of the southerners from contesting but they muscled them out in the primaries, if Odili had won the primaries would pdp have stopped him, would they have denied him the ticket Absolutely No, about not realising the said threshold on power yes that was one of his shortcomings and everyone knows he didn't call the shots then a lot of factors would have mitigated that but on assumption of office he made that sector his priority, please be honest would you say the power issue is not being tackled, would you say the Barth Nnaji committee is not working, it has been years on negligent and decay in that sector we can't expect a miracle overnight but to be frank total output has increased since then, he has gone ahead to unveil his plan http://allafrica.com/stories/201009100207.html,  lets see him not implement them first then we nail him, about the jets i think i have nailed that on a previous post, everybody makes reference to fashola, he is a good man and his intentions for lagos are good but you and i know that there is an ongoing investigation of fraud levelled against him and a probe by the house there, that's why i said its not easy ruling even with the good works we can ascribe to him, there are allegations against him you see why i said its not easy, why is IBB having the boldness to contest because no court in Nigeria has proved a case of corruption against him, we all know he enriched himself on our sovereign wealth, but has it been proven NO, and I am not an avid campaigner for Jonathan but all I am saying is lets allow him work first before we kill him, I reside in Nigeria, I work in Bayelsa though i'm not from there, there was considerable achievements in his 14 months there than sylvia's 4 years, this man has never been given the chance to truly function lets give him the chance at least he bows to pressure from the populace unlike former rulers, someone cited Buhari as a perfect example compared to Obama, most of us won't vote even for his presumed uprightness so tell me why is that ?, like I said in my earlier post, we the populace at times are to blame for all these rubbish happening in our country cus the looters emerge from out of us. thanks
on Zoning, let them muscle out GJ too now if that is their way of enforcing it
Why should you care about people (Rimi, Odili, GJ) who would not respect the party's constitution

I would be very happy indeed if we BOTH would be honest
What you are saying has been addressed in my post
The excuse that you could make for GJ is that he was not empowered
 Again he only complained that he was not allowed to see Yaradua; not that he was not empowered - people are making up excuses for    him now. I wonder what Sambo will say in the future
 But you don't need empowerment to make plan or develop a blueprint
So what was he doing as chair of NIPP?
 He should have unveiled his plan in Februray rather than Aug

It was Obj that introduced NIPP, came up with the laws that split NEPA into distribution, transmission, generation coys
Anyway Mikeansy is coming to tell you that Obj did a lot
Go and read my posts - I cannot stand Obj BTW - he is perhaps amongst the worst we ever had

As for Fashola, it shows that we are easy to rule
I have friends working in banks
They have an internal auditor at the branch, they have Inspection at Head Office, they receive CBN examiners (routine and special) and NDIC examiners, they have external auditors
So these people are doing their jobs and they take inspection, investigation, auditing as routine workaday issues

Somebody levels allegation against a governor, then we are told it is wrong
In the US, hundreds of millions of dollars were used to investigate Bill Clinton only to find he was making out with somebody
And they wanted to impeach him for lying about an affair - somethinh men do by reflex - lie about affairs

How did you know that IBB enriched himself and yet you do not know that GJ knows about the $13.5m patience was laundering during
GJ's time as governor?
You said we should be honest, remember?

Has anybody ever mentioned GJ's achievements in those 14months
And don't compare him with somebody who would send people from Bayelsa to Abuja to kidnap journalist who wrote what he did not like

If we are part of the problem, why do you want to vote for a man whose wife is so greedy and facing corruption charges
while there is a Buhari who to date has not been so soiled?
Politics / Re: Jonathan Replaces Police Boss And Service Chiefs by truly: 3:46pm On Sep 10, 2010
~Bluetooth:

Is that the only thing he was accused of ?
Maybe you have more, can you enlighten me then?
Politics / Re: Ribadu To Be Named Acn Presidential Candidate . by truly: 3:43pm On Sep 10, 2010
Beaf:

Shortly after Buhari siezed power, he announced that he wanted to resign. Informed observer put the reason for this as, that he had accomplished his primary task, which was to destroy all documents and lock up everyone that could have increminated him in the theft of $2.8billion from the NNPC. Fela amongs a lot of other people was locked up at the time.

After that announcement, Idiagbon took over and Buhari was a mere figurehead. All the attributes of that regime are due only to Idiagbon.
This is a lie
Beaf, produce your evidence
If Buhari had anything to hide, he would not have confronted Britain by doing a bosom-for-tat when Britain asked some Nigerian embassy personnel to leave Britain following the Dikko kidnap fiasco
You are just eulogising Idiagbon because he is not around to challenge your idol - GJ
Were he alive and showing interest in the presidency, it is clear you would have found something to tar him with

Buhari has challenged all to prove his guilt - this is your chance
You said something about 53 suitcases
Buhari has said the question should be put to Atiku - the customsman on duty on that day

Please is there no standard in this project to enthrone GJ?
This country will still exist after GJ - please let us try and help it!

Your post about that website is a case in point
http://www.nigeria.gov.ng/

Beaf:

I really pity those making foolish references to the govt website. There is nothing wrong with it and the links work.
Abeg, find something real to criticise, because it seems really desperate to base a govts ability on a single website (thats working anyway). I mean. . . Really desperate! But dia bullet don finish na! grin
Is this true?

na_so:

[size=70pt]GOODLUCK NIGERIA[/size]
We will need it if that husband of that greedy woman gets into office
From recent experience, all the luck goes to him
we are left wondering what the matter is with our country
Politics / Re: Jonathan Replaces Police Boss And Service Chiefs by truly: 3:39pm On Sep 10, 2010
~Bluetooth:

this is always my problem with some of nl's analyst,what do you mean by ''Campaign of Calumny against buhari'' ?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=511258.msg6728119#msg6728119

They claim he stole money, he is anti South, he did not do anything - Idiagbiob did all etc
Where is the evidence?
Politics / Re: Jonathan Replaces Police Boss And Service Chiefs by truly: 3:20pm On Sep 10, 2010
playmode:

I understand where you are coming from but i just hope for the sake of the 150 million Nigerian citizens all over the world (including me) that Jonathan makes good moves. To be honest with you ,i prefer Ribadu to him but what i have gathered recently is that Ribadu himself is not a saint. There are allegations that he was OBJ's tool (i tire ooooo) and the fact that he is now in alliance with tinunbu (someone he was alleged to have referred to as a corrupt politician ).When are we going to find a candidate like the likes of "obama"   I mean a candidate with out excess baggage

One thing i agree with you is the "society" thing. Yes our society in it's current state cannot provide good leaders unless there is a change of attitude. Jonathan should arrest the likes of OBJ and Babangida ,that will be a good move in the right direction or wetin you feel ?

Ribadu is better than Johnathan - Ribadu is sincere but got carried away by zealotry
GJ is a PDP true blood and he carries the PDP virus - impunity, disregard for welfare of the masses (CF Ogun state WAEC candidates) and disrepect for rule of law (eg Ngige abduction as family affair; zoning issue, Ogbulafor/Nwodo as 6/half a dozen)
Buhari is the best
But there is an  campaign of calumny against him, but no evidence
Politics / Re: Jonathan Replaces Police Boss And Service Chiefs by truly: 3:12pm On Sep 10, 2010
Beaf:

I really pity those making foolish references to the govt website. There is nothing wrong with it and the links work.
Abeg, find something real to criticise, because it seems really desperate to base a govts ability on a single website (thats working anyway). I mean. . . Really desperate! But dia bullet don finish na! grin
It is really sad that you are standing the truth on its head!
This is something that is simply verifiable
Nobody says you should not support Johnathan
But to claim that a website that is a disgrace is ok
is pushing it

For a country that has produced Achebe (his book is used in an Ethics class in Harvard University) and Wole Soyinka
The first thing on that page is a shame

"Jonathan - Sambo administration is focus to establish a, "
When you click on "about the Villa" or "Our Government" - you get the same message

And you are still calling some people foolish

You get this additional info under "Our government"  
PRESIDENT DR. GOODLUCK EBELE JONATHAN, GCON   VICE PRESIDENT ARC MOHAMMED NAMADI SAMBO, GCON, FNIA
   
OFFICE OF THE FIRST LADY   THE CABINET

Meanwhile, people have been saying zoning is unconstitutional. What about this office of The First Lady
Is it constitutional? Is it occupied by somebody whose $13.5m money laundering case has not been decided?

BTW is GJ not GCFR?
Politics / Re: Jonathan Replaces Police Boss And Service Chiefs by truly: 3:03pm On Sep 10, 2010
babasoty:

@dede1

i never said Jonathan is a saint, and please he never flouted his party constitution, the zoning issue has no legal or moral weight, in the advent of democracy pdp zoned it to the south, but Abubakar Rimi bought the form and contested, in 2007 all most all southern governors contested when pdp zoned it to the north, if not for some powerful elements peter odili would have even carried the day given the resources at his disposal, all i am saying is give the man a chance 8 months is not enough to judge his performance and to be fair in this 8 months he has lived up to expectation, not as much as we would have loved to but he has tried and has a listening ear than most former presidents we know, lets be honest with ourselves too on this issue
If you say zoning (which is in the PDP's constitutipon) has no moral or legal weight, why is it that PDP bothers to amend the constitution at all
If morality is not an issue why did Abdusalaami not hand over on Oct 1?
  He determined what time he required to conduct an election and fixed his exit date shortly after (May 29) rather than hold on till Oct 1
That powerful element is what is called zoning and that was what made Odili and Rimi not get the ticket
I remember when a lot of people were saying zoning no longer exists, zoning no longer exists while it remains in the constitution of the PDP

Has Johnathan lived up to expectation?
Did he deliver on his Dec 2009  6,000 MW assignment
If he was hamstrung by Yaradua as some people claim (although he did not say so himself)
  Why did he not start implementing the plan he had as soon as he became acting VP
How long did he take him to come up with a blueprint
And do you think that bluepringt is earthsahking?

If we listen to his arguments - must we buy 3 new jets. He claims that it was in a previous budget,
If that is so, he has not upheld everything he inherited from Yaradua, so must he retain that item in the budget?

You have previously argued that the money laundering case against his wife does not affect him
On 11 September, 2006, $13.5 million was seized from Patience Jonathan
I hope you know that this amount is over 10 times the amount that cost Ogbulafor PDP chairmanship under GJ's presidency
Do you seriously believe Patience suddenly came about so much money through her business of, ?
and that GJ was never found guilty of any offence
 I hope you know that this also exonerates IBB and everyone of the lot of any guilt since they have not been convicted

Nwodo, his preference for PDP chairmanship was involved in the Sunday Afolabi-led ID card scam
Is that hope-giving?

You say Nigeria is not easy to govern
I disagree absolutely; Nigeria is too easy to rule!
What is Fashola really doing to warrant all the noise?
It is just because of the low standard we have set for ourselves
Consider what Obama is going through - he is sprouting grey hairs daily, yet he is being accused of doing nothing
The fact that we have no concrete achievements while people are just saying
 let us give him a chance, he has made some appointments that tilt power in favour of the SE/SS etc
(This is zero-sum game politics - this does not improve overall standard of living)
implies our leaders fool us easily
Politics / Re: Jonathan ‘ll Set Record By Not Contesting — Bamanga Tukur ! by truly: 9:39am On Sep 10, 2010
madprof:

saintchux, how do you know Goodluck WILL set the 24hrs light record? That's a little far-fetched, don't you think? I mean, the guy has shown no exceptionally outstanding signs of being a visionary leader. Now the president that will give Naija 24 hrs light will have my respect for life. THAT is a record. I live in one of the busiest capitals in the country and it's quite usual for us not to get a blink of light for days at a stretch. If GEJ can change all that dramatically then he has my respect; otherwise there's no fundamental difference between him and the rest.
Those who are calling, begging, pushing, advising, e.t.c GEJ to vie for president should please leave him alone. We need to hear his own voice. If he has the political will, he'll contest and if that will is strong enough, he'll make damn sure that only the true winner emerges. More important than vying for office is the will to ensure performance and accountability.
Johnathan as VP was in charge of delivering the 6,000 MW target by Dec 2009
Did he achieve it? No
Some people have said he did not have executive powers (to act)
But after taking executive powers how long did it take him to bring out a plan? 6months.
And please study the plan and see how we are going backward and stagnating
GJ is not taking us anywhere
It is just like the OBJ PR stunts

That shows that the man did not even have a plan when he was chair of NIPP
The man is incompetent
How many initiatives has he taken since he got into politics in 1999
Note that he was a governor between Dec 2005 and May 2007

BTW some people told us that he HAD delivered 24 hours power supply
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-433272.0.html
This was in April this year!
This is how sentiments drives us away from reality

Abagworo:

The truth is that no Nigerian is ready to die for his rights.I believe Jonathan will make a positive change if allowed to continue but right now he is quite stagnant as a result of indecision.
Indecision?
How long did it take GJ to bury Ogbulafor for corruption
And resurrect Nwodo who was also indicted for corruption in the ID card scam
And of course, bury Patience Johnatan's case corruption case with EFCC?

Johnathan is of the PDP, by the PDP and for PDP
Religion / Christian Student Disrupts Jumuat Service At UI by truly: 8:03am On Aug 16, 2010
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/National/5607292-147/vice_chancellor_averts_religious_crisis_at.csp

Vice chancellor averts religious crisis at Ibadan university

By Jide Jegede

August 16, 2010 12:23AM
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But for a quick intervention of Olufemi Bamiro, the Vice Chancellor, University of Ibadan, the academic community would probably have been engulfed in religious violence from the end of last week.

A 400-level law student of the institution, Seun Bunmi Adegunsoye, was said to have almost provoked tension, as she intruded on a Jumat service going on at a mosque within the university community, shouting ‘accept Jesus’.

Ms Adegunsoye, a Christian evangelical and a student of the Law faculty, nearly disrupted the ongoing service led by the institution’s chief imam, Abdulrahman Oloyede, as she continued screaming, “Except you accept Christ in your life, you are not safe. All of you here, no matter the number of the congregation, accept Jesus Christ. Allah is not God; Jesus is Lord”.

According to an eyewitness, her conduct attracted the fury of some male Muslims, who waited around the premises of the mosque almost an hour after the service, to deal with her for the “unwarranted provocation”.

Mr Bamiro, however, saved the day. He came to the mosque immediately he was contacted, to apologise to the Muslim students, describing the incident as “very surprising and unfortunate”.

He also pledged a full investigation into the incident and promised to prevent future occurrences.

Though effectively curbed, the incident is already threatening the peace of the institution and that of Ibadan, the Oyo State capital, since it occurred last Friday.

Its effect resonated at the institution’s Obafemi Awolowo hall of residence on Sunday, as Muslim students gathered in front of the hall in the morning to engage their Christian fellow students in a verbal war. The mounting tension arising from the encounter was only quelled by security operatives drafted to the scene.

Already, the matter is dominating discussions among notable Islamic leaders and Hausa community leaders in the city, who considered it strange, particularly as it came on the first Friday of the holy month of Ramadan.

Planning a protest

A source also informed us that Muslim students of the institution are planning to stage a protest to the office of the vice chancellor and that of the dean of the faculty of law.

We further learnt that they would be demanding a stoppage to the examinations of the law faculty, scheduled to start today, until Ms Adegunsoye is brought to justice.

Addressing journalists at the weekend, Zakariyah Giwa, President of the Muslim Students Society of Nigeria (MSSN), University of Ibadan branch, alleged that the incident was a ploy to “perpetuate religious crisis in Nigeria, starting from the campus of the University of Ibadan”, describing it as unfortunate.

He said Ms Adegunsoye’s action was a clear effrontery, alleging that, for the first time in history, she dressed like a Muslim to detract a jumat service in the month of Ramadan at the time the Chief Imam was leading the prayer.

“To our dismay and to the surprise of the whole Muslim community, we learnt that the girl has been released to her parents, the following day, by the university authority, without any reference to the Muslim community, due to the purported intervention of two senior officials of the university. The terrorist is let loose despite the heinous crime she had committed,” he said
Politics / Re: Goodluck Jonathan Approved The Construction Of A $3.5 Billion Electricity Grid by truly: 5:53am On Aug 11, 2010
paddy_lo:

Simple yar adua the dull guy slowed everything down. . dont believe me go ask ribadu and el-rufai
Everything stops at Yaradua desk - simple answer but incorrect
Your answer gives the impression you have facts
But people who have been following govt's actions and pronlouncements newspapers know you don't

Again buck stops at yar adua. . dont try to Drag OBJ or Jonathan into this. . .abi if your wife no fit get belle,no be u we go blame abi na your brother or friend u wan begin blame for your bedmatic incompetence?
Obj's govt announced a deadline of Dec 2007 to achieve 10,000MW
This falsehood perissisted until, like I mentioned, after the election results were announced
If you know the story, you will recall that it was Makoju (Obj's adviser) told us Dec 2007 was no longer
That was even before Yaradua was sworn in
So using your analogy, how can a groom be blamed that the bride is not pregnant on the wedding day  
We should not allow our hatred blind us to facts
BTW we need to drag in Obj - he started making promises about power in 1999 through Bola Ige, remember
He was even beating his chest at a time because power supply improved due to abundant rainfall and its effect on the hydro stations

Bottom line the power sector has to be privatized and the reforms concluded. . this is where we are headed today
He doesnt have to solve any NITEL problem as NITEL is irrelevant to Nigeria
and has been having problems with regards privatization since 2003

It is clear you lack facts
This is not meant to be abusive
But somebody offered $1.25b for Nitel
Does it make sense not to take the money
This was simply what GJ was required to do
They started talking about the bank guarantee, the plans of the technical partner and so on
So if Nitel is no longer relevant as you claim, why does GJ not take the $1.25b
This amount is more than 2 x the amount Jega is asking for
Before or after debt relief. . .?
After Debt relief it was pristine. . .Today it is pristine. . .


Who the hells Alhaji Alhaji. . .oh another yar adua type slow clueless mallam?. . .never mind
If you don't know him
Then don't talk about borrowing in Nigeria
There is no argument that he did not advance to justify debts that governments then wanted to take
As regards of clueless mallams - do you really think southerners are so much smarter than northerners
Your posts here have shown that southerners have knowledge gaps
But you don't call yourselves clueless
1. u are stuck in the past and cannot tell us how u want these projects funded without getting international funds

2. u have systematically absolved yaradua of any blame,in a GOVT he led. . thats laughable. . .I wonder if Atiku is also to blame for OBJs failures

3. u have no credibility cause of reason 2 above

4. [b]U dont understand debt to GDP
and how sustainable debt leads to growth(PS if our GDP keeps growing,our Debt to GDP will keep falling,regardless of how much jonathan borrows today,esp if its invested in power)

5. U really believe NITEL should be a priority in todays Nigeria. . .now thats laughable[/b]

1. same arguments that are constantly used to drown us in debt. So we end up with the
debt, but not the project
2. systematically - go and check my posts and yours and see who is guilty here
I have demonstrated that Yaradua was slow, but what has GJ done beyond planning self succession
He has not even delivered on his promised masterplans - Power and Niger Delta
3. I have demonstrated more credibility than you
4. I don't understand your brand of debt to GDP. I am sure prof Nwankwo, the DG of DMO doesn't either. Go and read his speech of last week
5. I really believe that when we see a snake (large sum of money is offered for a near-dead Nitel), we should kill it (take the money) and not call a committee to decide

BTW, when I say look at our borrowing and project management track record, you say I am stuck in the past
But if I say let us vote IBB in next year, you are sure to say "what about his track record"!
Politics / Re: Goodluck Jonathan Approved The Construction Of A $3.5 Billion Electricity Grid by truly: 5:03am On Aug 11, 2010
Beaf:

India caught up with others, so why do you feel we can't catch up with them?
I am waiting for you to justify this typical high sounding arguments used to rationalise white elephants
Somebody has said that SA borrowed $3b for power project
But they never tell us that borrowing have the same effect across countries - you become a debtor
while fiscal discipline, integriy and project management skills are far apart
Politics / Re: Goodluck Jonathan Approved The Construction Of A $3.5 Billion Electricity Grid by truly: 4:59am On Aug 11, 2010
Beaf:

The above does not help your argument as to why funding the grid would be inimical to Nigeria's debt rating. It is largely a list of the failings of past govts.

The bolded is the biggest fault in your argument. You do not blame the Vice-President for the failure of govt. There's a reason why there is a President, the buck stops at his desk. The buck only began stopping at Jonathans desk 3 short months ago (May 6 2010).
Johnathan became governor in Dec 2005
The buch stopped at his desk for 18 months back then
What were the achievements?

The fact that I mentioned are to buttress the fact that GJ is part and parcel of the order that cannot be trusted to borrow money and spend it wisely
While you mentioned Turai earlier
The point is money that goes into that project may not even be recouped once
GJ has also got a greedy wife
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5565603-146/patience_we_are_watching.csp
Politics / Re: Goodluck Jonathan Approved The Construction Of A $3.5 Billion Electricity Grid by truly: 4:41am On Aug 11, 2010
Beaf:

India caught up with others, so why do you feel we can't catch up with them?
compare Nigeria and India please
cf Literacy, work ethic, institutions etc
Politics / Re: Goodluck Jonathan Approved The Construction Of A $3.5 Billion Electricity Grid by truly: 4:39am On Aug 11, 2010
Beaf:

Any money put into the power sector is almost certain to be clawed back tenfold. We already had a high debt rating without the manufacturing capacity to make a pin.
In fact producing electricty from private generating plants makes up a whopping 40% of our manufacturers costs, that is why that sector is epileptic, not because there are no brains in the country.

If we need to catch up with the likes of India in IT by offering low cost international IT services, we must invest in power supply. I could find a million more reasons to make your financing and dept rating question laughable,

How come the money Obj put into it in his time has not been clawed back .5 times
Do you remember that in Jan 2007 when Obj/Yaradua/Johnathan were campaigning, they promised us 10,000MW by Dec 2007
Do you remember that they suddenly said it was no longer feasible after the election results were announced
Do you remember they gave several deadlines with the latest being 6,000MW by Dec 2009
What has now changed? GJ has been in govt house in one capacity or the other since 1999
He has not resolved Nitel privatisation - a simple matter that arose when he was acting president


Do you remember our debt rating in 2005?
Do you remember what it was when Alahaji Alhaji was piliing up debts in the 90s

Based on our track record, can you provide just 5 specific reasons (no need to try a million general excuses) why my questions are laughable
Politics / Re: Goodluck Jonathan Approved The Construction Of A $3.5 Billion Electricity Grid by truly: 4:13am On Aug 11, 2010
Beaf:

I don't get your point. Are those things you listed credible achievements for a 3 year govt stint? Vision 2020 and the 7 point agenda particularly, are a national joke. Because, they only stress the point that Yar Adua just did his bathing and tooth brushing at Aso Rock. Thats why he was called Baba Go Slow.

Thank goodness Jonathan has signed this power grid into being, the more he does these things, the less we will hear from Yar Adua die hards.
Lets talk about the grid, instead of derailing it with talk about Yar Adua who was only good at sleeping.
ok
Let us talk about how Johnathan want to integrate his grid into the NIPP project
His plan for financing the project
and for pricing it
and the impact on our dent rating!
Politics / Re: Goodluck Jonathan Approved The Construction Of A $3.5 Billion Electricity Grid by truly: 4:10am On Aug 11, 2010
paddy_lo:

U might be right. . but unfortunately u cant go to the market and buy a functional grid in 1day,1month or even 1yr

[b]Instead he  scrapped and stalled reforms that would have been making a difference by now. . .

T[b]he bottom line if u dont deregulate,privatize and build new generation and transmission capacity u are not going to have any change
[/b]
Yaradua did none of the above in 3yrs

while Jonathan in just 4months has outlined plans for privatization,New grid construction and Completion of the NIPPs w[/b]ith the commission headed by Namadi Sambo

Now thats a man with a plan/vision and ready for action

What reforms did Yaradua stall?
  Details please - no need muttering about them
And what reforms and deregulation has GJ introduced?
 And do you really believe that in 4 months, they came up with a comprehensive plan - (in 4 months they surveyed the power infrastrucure in Nigerian? - a country you admitted is big!)
I see any plan by GJ as the outcome of the Dec 2009 deadline he missed
and if they did, where is the plan

And if the guy is so quick, how come he has not resolved the issue of privatisation of Nitel which arose after he became acting president?
Politics / Re: Goodluck Jonathan Approved The Construction Of A $3.5 Billion Electricity Grid by truly: 4:01am On Aug 11, 2010
paddy_lo:

@truly

what are u even saying. . .u are a Nigerian and u are blaming a vice for the failure of the person in charge. . .

[b]Its like saying deputy Governors are responsible for the failures of Governors.  , laughable

Listen your yar adua put on hold power reforms for 3yrs,disbanded the NERC board and stopped the NIPP

at the end of the day nothing happened and u are blaming jonathan . , are u well?

[/b]

Yaradua did not disband NERC - those guys were caught in a corruption scandal
BTW NERC is a regulator, ot could not have interfered with NIPP projects
Neither did he put NIPP on hold
Let Johnathan himself  come out and say that Yaradua did
So like I mentioned, the project was starved of fund - but what about the plans
Nobody is stopping Johnathan from publishing his ideas now - he is CEO

The only thing he has done is to remove the minister - so what about the plan

paddy_lo:

@truly

at the end of the day nothing happened and u are blaming jonathan . , are u well?

The proof that I am well is that I am still following my parents' advice to
disagree with people without being abusive
paddy_lo:

@truly
Again to put it straight to u. . .we need close to 12,000MW to stabilize the power problem
and also a brand new grid that can handle that output

U cannot do that kind of big infrastructure project without borrowing to fund it,or else u are setting yourself up to fail

South Africa(richer than us aint they),just got a $3billion loan to fund new power plants from the world bank


What is the proof that this loan will not become an albatraoss?
We have heard all these arguments before - ask Alhaji Alhaji
And what is $3b to South Africa
Soludo said we need more than 35 years to catch up with South Africa

Our debt:GDP is below 5% now
Soon, with GJ plan's we will double our debt stock
and we will burst the sustainability limit that DMO announced just last week

Yaradua was slow, GJ is slower in economic and social issues
But faster than a cheetah in politicking

I don't need to be related to Yaradua to check unbridled propaganda
Politics / Re: Goodluck Jonathan Approved The Construction Of A $3.5 Billion Electricity Grid by truly: 3:45am On Aug 11, 2010
Beaf:

It is well known that Jonathan was kept as far away from power as was possible by Yar Adua and his kitchen cabinet, even to the point that the country was thrown into a very dangerous situation when Yar Adua became too ill to lead. His power had already been ceded to his coterie of sharks and vipers and they duly held the whole country to ransome.

If the little list you put up were Yar Adua's achievements for 3 good years in power, you've just bolstered my point that he achieved nothing. His govt was a terrible waste of Nigeria's time and is better forgotten.
This is not true
Johnathan himself only complained that he was not allowed to see Yaradua when he was sick
He has not complained that he was not allowed to take initiatives to achieve the 6,000mw target
I cannot even imagine that Yaradua would even frustrate a project that was crucial to his credibility
He may not release money to fund projects, but to prevent ideas from being generated on the power sector is impossible

So if johnathan had ideas and was not allowed to implement them, let him publish his agenda
Did you remember the coundown in Businessday about Johnathan's promise to give a blue print on power sector
Did he achieve it? No he did not
So what is his agenda for the power sector

BTW, can you remind us the achievements of Jonhathan as governor after taking over from Alams in Dec 2005
Remember his tenure as governor is longer than what he has spent so far as president

The only actions that are coming rapidly from GJ are his self succession plans
 remove ogbulafor, defend Iwu as much as posible and then appoint somebody who has little time

You said Yaradua achieved nothing, and you went ahead to credit Johnathan with rule of law and credible elecvtion
As soon as I pointed out that those were yaradua's ideas, they suddenly became "nothing"
Politics / Re: Goodluck Jonathan Approved The Construction Of A $3.5 Billion Electricity Grid by truly: 3:31am On Aug 11, 2010
Beaf:

We are talking about a power grid that has 100% come out of Jonathans govt. Yar Adua planned nothing and did nothing, so there was nothing to measure him against, his govt was a cataclysmic failure. It really is almost impossible to point to any work done previously by Yar Adua's supremely lethargic govt.

Jonathan has signed into being, a grid that by its very description in extremly robust, ultramodern and flexible. It will take the country quantum leaps from where we are today. Power supply is by far, one of Nigeria's biggest and most daunting issues.

It will be part public, part private, the implication being that private owners will be able to feed their own current into the grid; that guarantees that it would be a synch to feed in power from alternative sources, mini and medium sized power stations. All sorts can be plugged in.

As paddy_lo has said, our current infrastructure cannot even handle less than 4000 Mega watts without blowing a gasket; but here is a plausible plan that would make it straightforward to generate vast quantities of electricity from areas like the Niger Delta where there are abundant gas supplies and pipe it to all ends of the country without the system collapsing.
Yaradua planned nothing?

What about dredging of the Niger?
What about Uwais Panel on credible elections?
7-point agenda?
Vision 2020 20?

If Yaradua had nothing
What does Johnathan have?

Please tell us GJ's strategic agenda rather than his operational plans

His borrowing will throw us back into slavery
http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=180459
There is no argument that Johnathan is using now to justify his borrowings that past governments did not advance

And let us forget about propaganda
we know people who have said power poroblems had been sloved as far back as April this year
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-433272.0.html

And these grandiose promises are similar to the half-completed project he went to commission wih Akala in Ibadan

BTW did Johnathan just plan this project he signed since he took over?
Rememer that anything power has been his baby since 2007
Politics / Re: Goodluck Jonathan Approved The Construction Of A $3.5 Billion Electricity Grid by truly: 3:21am On Aug 11, 2010
@labiyemmy:

The same people who cry night and day about how they left the country due to decaying infrastructures, these are the same people who cry night and day when "something" good is initiated. oh people, when will your cries stop? Never!
I hope you know that this is not the first time people would raise our hopes only to dash it
But the debts are there for us to pay
FYI Johnathan is about to more than double our foreign debts

Jonathan Seeks N’Assembly’s Nod for $4.4bn Loan
http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=180459


Did you remember the story about johnathan having finally solved the power problem inn Nigeria?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-433272.0.html
Politics / Re: Goodluck Jonathan Approved The Construction Of A $3.5 Billion Electricity Grid by truly: 3:13am On Aug 11, 2010
Beaf:

^
Sorry, but Yar Adua achieved exactly nothing. Jonathan has already done more in his 3 months than Yar Adua did in 3 years.
. . .No more "baba go slow" and reciting of the "7 point agenda" while doing nothing. grin

Yaradua achieved nothing?
Who "forced" johnathan to publicly declare his assets
Who first spoke about rule of law which enabled the man that blocked Johnathan's blockade to be alive today
And under which some state governors were able to reclaim their stolen mandate (did that happen under Obj for instance?)
Who made Johnathan the chairman of the NIPP project which was to deliver 6,000mw by Dec 2009
And did Johnathan achieve that target
BTW it was Yaradua that setup the Uwais Committe and who has buried it - is it not Johnanthan
When did Johnathan stop supporting Iwu? (he said he had conducted 2 fair elections with Iwu)
Until the US insisted that Iwu was a problem - that was it
And credible elections - where is the proof?
Abacha spoke more about credible elections than Johnathan has done - talk is not action
Politics / Re: All Political Parties Must Present Northern Candidates - Acf by truly: 2:54am On Aug 11, 2010
Beaf:

If anything, Idiagbon was the strong character. Buhari allowed his vice (and junior in military rank) run the show, which means he was either a figure-head or he is a weakling.
To call him a figure-head or a weakling will be untrue
He was GOC of the 3rd Armoured division that drove Chadians troops (who had taken Nigerian territories) back to their country
He was firm in his resolve to defend the Nigerian territory and send a warning to those foreign troops or rebels
This was under Shagari administration

Beaf:

It is unfortunate to say it, but Buhari played very little part in his own govt. All of the action came from Idiagbon.
I cannot credit him with having run a govt.
This is not true.
To start with, a military man would just not be figure-head and allow a subordinate run the show
If you watch the tapes of the interview he gave, you would see a man who did not shy away from clarifying his position on issues
Yes Idiagbon projected an image of a strongman, but Buhari was also a strong character
It was not so common those days for a "weakling" to become a major general
Politics / Re: All Political Parties Must Present Northern Candidates - Acf by truly: 2:41am On Aug 11, 2010
pres-elect:

Buhari is not far from my definition of honesty and strong character. I'm sure you will agree with me that prior to 1983, buhari had little to no experience in national leadership and yet, at least by your assessment, he or his administration achieved one or two things.
This is not exactly true
Buhari had been a minister and state governor prior to becoming a head of state in 1983

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