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A friend forwarded this to me It is lengthy and interesting, but would have been unbelievable but for the facts cited "A Case Study on Customer Service, It's only in our beloved country that this happens without an ensuing law suit. God help us! From: Anthonia Opara Sent: 31 August 2010 15:44 Subject: A FLIGHT EXPERIENCE ON ARIK AIR Flight Ticket By Mr. Akaninyene Inyang Dear Mr. Brunner: First of all, I want to thank Mr. Dele (Supervisor in Arik Airways New York office) who took my call on 09 August 2010 . Per our conversation, I am following up that phone call with a formal letter of complaint regarding my recent experience on Arik Airways. I have included with this letter a copy of my ticket on your airline, flight 108 and 107, flight cancellation notice given to passengers at Lagos International Airport. Also included with this letter is a copy of my New York itinerary with appropriate email confirmations from orbitz and Delta Airline Ticket & Invoice. Below is a written account of my experience as explained to Mr. Dele over the phone: On 5th August 2010, my daughter (3 years old) and I arrived Lagos International Airport from Calabar (local airport in Nigeria) at 1730hrs to board a scheduled return International flight to JFK New York with Arik Airways (Arik Air 107). We were informed (alongside other passengers) that the flight was canceled due to aircraft technical issues. We were told to return the next day for a tentative flight that was scheduled to depart by 1800hrs. The Arik Airways Airport Manager, Ms. Adaobi Molokwu then told us that Arik Airways will not provide accommodation & feeding for passengers and will not be liable for connecting passengers who will miss their connecting flight in New York JFK due to the flight cancellation. Ms. Molokwu was extremely uncooperative in assisting passengers or addressing our concerns. The same attitude was exhibited by other Arik Airways staffs that were present. One pregnant Arik Airways staff member said "when we the passengers were tried of complaining, we will return home". They ignored us, while they all stared at their computer screens. They would not respond to many of our questions. This lack of concern from Arik Airways airport management and staff, angered the passengers greatly and resulted in several heated exchanges. Due to all the frustration from them ignoring us, I became vocal and demanded answers to our concerns by turning the computer monitor away from the closest Arik staff. This led to the staff member jumping to his feet to start a fight with me and the other passengers. In the process I was shoved into a 3ft wide X 4ft long window, which broke and injured me. I was bleeding heavily from my right hand. The commotion inside Arik Airways office alerted the Nigerian Aviation Authority, so they came to find-out what was going on. Arik Airways did not provide any medical treatment for my injuries, the Aviation Authority were the ones that called in a paramedic to clean my cuts. The Aviation Authority on arrival calmed all of us down and moved all passengers including Ms. Molokwu, to their office and we commenced dialogue for the first time since the ordeal began. During the meeting, Ms. Molokwu still insisted that Arik Airways will not provide accommodation but the Aviation authority reminded Ms. Molokwu that it is the responsibility of the Airline to provide accommodation for all passengers in situations like this. Ms. Molokwu was forced to oblige and agreed to make accommodation available. However, once we were outside the Aviation authority's office, Ms. Molokwu decided to provide accommodation to passengers that could prove that they entered Lagos airport via a transport mode that originated outside of Lagos . This decision further infuriated the passengers. After several rounds of another heated argument between passengers and Arik Airways Staffs, some of us were finally taken to a sub-standard hotel at about 2200hrs. We were reminded that our flight would depart the next day by 1800hrs tentatively. The next day 06 August 2010, a bus picked over 30 of us from the hotel, and we arrived the airport at about 1500hrs. When I tendered our U.S. passport (my daughter & I) to the check-in staff, he turned it over to another man that was standing with Ms. Molokwu, who confiscated them. He walked up to me accompanied by Ms. Molokwu and introduced himself as the person in-charge of Arik Airways security. He commanded us to hand over our luggage to him and then follow him. At that point Ms. Molokwu looked at me and my daughter and said "I am going to teach you a lesson". They took us away from other passengers to a secluded room. While there I was informed by the Arik security officer that a compliant was filed against me for damages to the company's property. He then told me that I had to pay the equivalent of $1,200 USD (180,000 Naira, Nigerian currency) before we could fly. The Aviation authority official present reminded him that this case was settled yesterday during the meeting we had but the Arik Airways security staff insisted that Ms. Molokwu had lodged a fresh compliant. We were detained for about 3hrs without access to food, or water. Our luggage was taken away from our sight, our passport was held as ransom for us to pay the alleged damages to Arik Airways property. For fear of my 3 year old daughter becoming too traumatized from the stress we were going through, I offered to get a guarantor for them but Ms. Molokwu accused me of trying to run away by playing tricks on her, she then said she will not let us get away. The Aviation Authority personnel then pleaded with her to be merciful and understand that we are still her customers and that she was making a mountain out of a mole hill. Seeing her rigid position, I then offered to pay her with my credit card but she outwardly laughed at me and said that Arik Airways 'does not use credit cards'. She said she will only receive cash from me. I reminded her that I used the same card to buy my ticket but she replied by saying that it was done on the internet and not in the office. I scrambled and came up with $700 USD and offered it to her but she turned around and said I was wasting her time. I looked down to my daughter and I could see the pain she was going through. She was uncomfortable throughout our stay in the hotel the previous night, she refused to eat any food offered, and now we were under detention for daring to ask for our right as air passengers. Out of compassion, Mr. S.M Mamman (Aviation Authority Secretary) gave me $500 USD of his own money (as a loan) just to free us from the abuse Ms. Molokwu was meting out to us. Mr. Mamman however made Ms. Molokwu promise to put us on the flight leaving by 1800hrs for JFK as a condition for receiving the money. She agreed but after her security officer took the $1,200 USD, she then said that It was no longer possible for us to make the 1800hrs flight. I requested a receipt of payment for what she claimed I had damaged but I was told that the agent that gives out receipts was not available. She (Ms Molokwu) then said we had to stay behind and join another Arik flight on Sunday 08Aug10. I requested to be put on a Delta flight that was leaving in 4 ½ hrs but they just ignored my daughter and I. Ms. Molokwu walked away and left us behind with her security officer. I then enquired if it was okay now to release our passport to us which he did. They left us to cater for our transportation and lodging needs. Not one staff of Arik management apologized for all the trouble they put us through; rather we were treated as criminals. I then took my daughter to Delta booking office and paid $4,397.43 USD (with the same credit card Ms. Molokwu refused to take) for a one way ticket from Lagos - New Orleans . I was reliably informed by another passenger Mr. Verem Turugty who was also a witness to our ordeal at Lagos, that the Arik flight that left Lagos at 1800hrs, arrived JFK by 2330hrs on 07Aug10. Most of the passengers on that flight including him ended up sleeping at the airport due to the arrival time and the lack of out-going flight from JFK at that time. This was further compounded by the lack of Arik Airways representative at JFK to attend to passengers needs. Mr. Turugty told me that he could not find one passenger on that flight that was pleased with the treatment they received. On his part he is willing to testify to the accuracy of the account of event I have narrated. This is the first time I have flown with Arik Airways. Our departure Flight on 19Jul10 was about 2hrs late to depart JFK, which meant that, our flight was late in arriving Lagos , Nigeria . We ended up missing our local connecting flight with Aero contractor to Calabar. We were stranded in Lagos that night and had to pay $233 USD to acquire another flight the next day for Calabar. The cancellation of the return flight on 05Aug10 meant that our connecting flight from New York - New Orleans was missed, which cost us $299.80 USD to purchase. The stress and strain this ordeal has taken on my family is unimaginable; my wife was on the phone all night & day on 05Aug & 06Aug and was forced to take 2days off from work (losing over $750 USD in revenue plus cost of local/international calls), talking with different travel agents trying to arrange flights for us. My parent's in-laws and parents in Nigeria were very worried about our fate especially when they couldn't reach me by phone while we were under detention. Financially we are at a loss of over $7000 USD plus the pain and suffering we have experienced. My 3 year old daughter told my wife on our return that "she does not want to visit Nigeria again". Her statement broke my heart because she was very excited to see her grand parents before our departure. I don't know what my wife and I will do to help her get over the psychological damage she went through, we are also at a loss reggaerding how to recover financially and emotionally from this sad event. I will never wish this experience on my worst enemy. Thank you." A commenter added this "We all have our various unsavoury experiences with this airline. They have the worst customer service culture I have ever experienced. I was once on a local flight where a cabin crew insulted a female passenger(with children) and to my dismay proceeded to report to the pilot who came out of the cockpit to announce he was delaying the flight for 15 minutes as a sanction." |
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~Bluetooth:It would really be useful if you read my posts I have answered that question However since you want just yes or no YES - BUHARI has acted like a democrat He contested elections He went to court to contest the result when he was disatisfied He accepted the court decision even though it was close 4-3 in favour of an incumbent president I have demonstrated good faith in answering your questions But you keep repeating it Whilst you refuse to answer ANY question put to you BTW - was Shagari such a democrat? If yes, why did he arrest journalists and charge them for sedition Why did he deport an elected opposition party member - Shugaba - without due process? Why did he use the police force to truncate the eleltoral choice of Nigerians If you are not GJ's fan, who are you for? If you are asking hard questions about Buhari, but not asking any about GJ, what is the effect Bad press for Buhari, but neutral for GJ - is that being against somebody BTW, the Nigerian people welcomed Buhari's coup |
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~Bluetooth:Ordinary Nigerians = students, market women, artisans workers etc This is the truth Go and check old newspapers BTW your question - who is a democrat? (a) A civilian who rigs election, amends the constitution to perpetuate himself in power - Obj qualifies eminently (b) A former coup plotter who is now seeking office by democratic means Eisenhower was Supreme Commander of Allied Forces - at this time he was a dictator He went ahead to become US president Answer = Democrat = B and Buhari qualifies My own question - can you really trust GJ with (i) national treasury and (ii) the diligent prosecution of the corruption fight Yes or no |
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babasoty: Obasanjo investigated PTF The board of PTF was scrapped in 1999 and replaced by an interim management committee on PTF This was headed by Dr. Haroun Adamu Its remit * to ascertaining all monies accruing to and received by the fund from inception, * to ascertaining the state of all bank accounts operated for the whole period of its existence, * to producing an up-to-date comprehensive projects and programme report, * to producing a final report of assets and liabilities, * to uphold the sanctity of all contracts entered into by the fund, but review all contract agreements which are not in the best public interest and * to renegotiate cost of projects, programmes and or services to reflect the financial realities of the fund You asked why Buhari placed Shagari under house arrest while Ekwumeme was jailed? the ethnic innuendo was unmistakable in your question and addresssed it by pointing out that He crated a fellow northerner but left a southerner alone - so he is not such an ethnic bigot As regards the issue of whether I support kidnapping? - let us face brass tacks here Was Dikko guilty of corruption or not? Was he hiding in the UK without any progress on the extradition application or not? Nigeria was under adverse conditions and the looters are thumbing their nose at us from abroad Do I support it? I do - unequivocally. And Gani Fawehinmi did. Was it kidnapping? No, it was self help effort to arrest a fugitive If you stole N1m, can you run? If I did the same thing, I cannot run away - Nig Police is empowered to use reasonable force to bring suspects in Will bringing you in amount to kidnapping? A Nigerian running from justice is a fugitive whether he is in Ogarra or in London What is the difference between Ibori and Dikko? Ibori had even been cleared of 170 charges by a court before a massive manhunt was launched for him Why is Ibori on his way to the UK? Co-operation and extradition Do you think if a Briton did the same thing, we would not have extradited him pronto If we were to get a way to bring all the crooks in Abuja to a place where we can make them cough out what they have been stealing since 1999, I would support it heartily Please don't let allow these people to use some subterfuge to hoodwink us UK, Russia or US will snitch anybody who is important to them from anywhere in the world - that is reality Do you think the press is really free in Nigeria? And do you know what a corrupt press can do? Today everybody keeps claiming that Danbazzau deployed soldiers to the Airport without informing Johnathan He has denied it and explained that the brigade of guards does not report to him - people still believe that falsehood they followed it up by saying that the man said that he is only loyal to Yaradua He asked that people should mention where and when he said it They now kept quiet Do you know what such do to to careers and lives - people are just accusing the man of high treason Now that GJ is president I hope they will also believe that the BoG will also not report to the new CAS About journalists being respected - do you remember the case of Azu of The Punch and the link to Reuben Abati? Anyway, what do you think will happen if there is a serious false report about Johnathan? Do you remember what Obj did to those guys who said he bought a Tokunbo aeroplane? How did Tam David West become a die-hard supporter of Buhari? He must have seen something in the man Let me jog your memory, Buhari said his administration was an ofshoot of the Murtala/Obasanjo regime They no longer see eye to eye That means the guy can work with southerners - IG, Minister of Petroleum, NNPC GMD etc |
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~Bluetooth:I hope you know that Museveni, Kagame, Mubarak are democrats. Are they not? You remember the number of people who died in Ondo State in 1983 because NPN wanted to capture the state by force And Oyo state, the fake policemen who were killing people in Ife and Ibadan Were those democractic processes? Democracy was made for people I don't think anyone wants to be part of a democracy that resulted into large scale killing of people How come virtually everyone welcomed the Buhari coup Also remember that there were two issues - political and economic - a crisis of legitimacy, large scale looting and harsh economic measures Akinloye (NPN chairman) celebrated his birthday with a specially made champagne Yet the country was undergoing austerity measures - in place since 1982 If you care to know, people often mutter these days (yes in 2010) about a Rawlings-like solution in Nigeria in the face of the sums being paid our legislators Even Ope Agbaje, BusinessDay columnist wrote about it People see democracy as a means to a better life; not an end in itself - this is not sentiment Let us see if people will not openly call for truncation of democracy, if our legislators continue to award themselves obscene benefits in the face of severe hardship |
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babasoty:So it is now a matter of might is right - no morality? I wonder why Fajuyi died with Ironsi and Abdusalaami handed over power so early And why should people enter into agreements they don't want to obey So this is the reason why the man believed that he could toy with FIFA? Can I trust him? As for Fashola, why should we just assume because somebody is "performing", he should not be probed The tax payers are audited to confirm the exact amount of tax they should pay But a governor (who does not pay tax BTW) cannot be audited? Why do we have an auditor general with a budget and staff then? Can we not vote into office people who are ready to submit themselves to rules that are observed all over the world Why can Clinton submit and it is hard for our civil servants If it is so hard why do they kill their opponents - because they love us so much? Eg why would Daniel not allow a public debate of a state matter - why is it so hard in Nigeria? You disagree that Buhari is not corrupt that PTF is such a cesspool Wound up in 1999 and among the institutions probed by Kolade panel set up by Obj Yet no charge brought against him by an opponent with whom he did not and does not see eye to eye What should I believe? - the inaction of an Obj who embarassed Atiku, Alams, Dariye, Sunday Afolabi, Tafa Balogun etc and sent his opponents into oblivion in the most crude manner (Ogbeh, Okadigbo, Anyim etc) and indicted Tejuoso who was not even in government when that guy wanted to contest against Iyabo But somehow did not lift a finger against Buhari or statement made by you - not in position to make official/legal inquiries - that Buhari is corrupt? And why do I like Buhari and dislike about GJ - sincerity/insincerity I may be mistaken - but I am being honest |
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babasoty:Fela sang loudly - is that evidence? Do you remember Tai Solarin and Ebony magazine. Did Tai Solarin's read that story in Ebony magazine You know some people can use that phantom Ebony story in a whispering campaign against someone now if the person is contesting How come Obj did not use this matter to campaign against Buhari in 2003 and 2007 How come the Kolade panel that Obj set up shortly after assuming office in 1999 never mentioned it You really expect me to believe that a minister! can move a REFINERY under a military government? P-l-e-a-s-e The 53 suitcases were not related to Buhari. He has asked people to go and ask Atiku who was the customsman on duty on that day to explain I hope we know what is happening these days. Last week Next published a story that was critical of GJ - some people were asking for the source But when the same Next said in Jan that Yaradua was brain dead, NOBODY asked for the source Indeed any story about Cabal and Turai was believed as if they were proven truths We are human Why did he ship Dikko in a crate and left Adisa Akinloye alone? How did previous governments tackle hoarding? He did not murder those guys - they were trafficking in cocaine Singapore, malaysia, China etc still excute drug pushers today and one of the reasons why a chinese can bring 450kg of cocaine to Nigeria and Wunmi would be fined N1m for cocaine trafficking and Tochukwu was executed in Singapore for being an innocent carrier TT and NI did not report the exact truth Agreed, decree 4 was harsh but remember that due to the false allegations made by journalists against him, he was nearly court martialled and you are using the same false allegations today (as an aside if you get close to journalists some of them would confess to you their atrocities) It is nonsense to queue at bus stations, but you are praising it now that Fashola is doing it with BRT (honesty?) Running after buses, shoving and picking purses in the process was a better alternative? Please let us be honest Nigeria could not afford meal subsidies when Buhari took over evidence - Awo wrote to Shagari about the dangerous economic situation in 1980; shagari said it was a lie Shagari faced up to reality in 1982 by passing the economic stabilisation act into law - it introduced austerity measures Buhari came into power in Dec 1983; things had gone worse - please ask people Buhari appointed credible people into office Tam David West was Minister of petroleum, and he championed counter trade to avoid the opec quota constraints Nigeria was spending 42% of earnings on debt service. He did not take the loan - please remember How much would have been left for meal subsidies and such things. (BTW and I know that GJ is trying to remove fuel subsidy while people say we can afford it. The argument is stronger now for retention of the subsidy given the % of national budget that go to legislature and executive) Remember that it took 23 years later for Obj to eventually get the debt problem out of the way in 2006 Note that GJ is beginning to pile up debts again The irony of all these is that there is always somebody to praise the government in power You have said nothing was done in the power sector in the past 7 years Yet a lot of people were praising Obj 5 years ago Now you are praising GJ whose wife is very corrupt and greedy who was trying to justify Iwu's work, claiming that he had conducted 2 credible elections with Iwu and only capitulated under US pressure who has not done anything to take a firm stand against corruption |
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~Bluetooth:You asked me a question, I answered When it is your turn, you refuse and just make a sweeping statement So Obj, Abacha, Ironsi, Gowon, Nzegwu, IBB, Buhari are the same Then why should I not vote for Atiku since all civilians are also the same? |
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babasoty:on Zoning, let them muscle out GJ too now if that is their way of enforcing it Why should you care about people (Rimi, Odili, GJ) who would not respect the party's constitution I would be very happy indeed if we BOTH would be honest What you are saying has been addressed in my post The excuse that you could make for GJ is that he was not empowered Again he only complained that he was not allowed to see Yaradua; not that he was not empowered - people are making up excuses for him now. I wonder what Sambo will say in the future But you don't need empowerment to make plan or develop a blueprint So what was he doing as chair of NIPP? He should have unveiled his plan in Februray rather than Aug It was Obj that introduced NIPP, came up with the laws that split NEPA into distribution, transmission, generation coys Anyway Mikeansy is coming to tell you that Obj did a lot Go and read my posts - I cannot stand Obj BTW - he is perhaps amongst the worst we ever had As for Fashola, it shows that we are easy to rule I have friends working in banks They have an internal auditor at the branch, they have Inspection at Head Office, they receive CBN examiners (routine and special) and NDIC examiners, they have external auditors So these people are doing their jobs and they take inspection, investigation, auditing as routine workaday issues Somebody levels allegation against a governor, then we are told it is wrong In the US, hundreds of millions of dollars were used to investigate Bill Clinton only to find he was making out with somebody And they wanted to impeach him for lying about an affair - somethinh men do by reflex - lie about affairs How did you know that IBB enriched himself and yet you do not know that GJ knows about the $13.5m patience was laundering during GJ's time as governor? You said we should be honest, remember? Has anybody ever mentioned GJ's achievements in those 14months And don't compare him with somebody who would send people from Bayelsa to Abuja to kidnap journalist who wrote what he did not like If we are part of the problem, why do you want to vote for a man whose wife is so greedy and facing corruption charges while there is a Buhari who to date has not been so soiled? |
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~Bluetooth:Maybe you have more, can you enlighten me then? |
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Beaf:This is a lie Beaf, produce your evidence If Buhari had anything to hide, he would not have confronted Britain by doing a bosom-for-tat when Britain asked some Nigerian embassy personnel to leave Britain following the Dikko kidnap fiasco You are just eulogising Idiagbon because he is not around to challenge your idol - GJ Were he alive and showing interest in the presidency, it is clear you would have found something to tar him with Buhari has challenged all to prove his guilt - this is your chance You said something about 53 suitcases Buhari has said the question should be put to Atiku - the customsman on duty on that day Please is there no standard in this project to enthrone GJ? This country will still exist after GJ - please let us try and help it! Your post about that website is a case in point http://www.nigeria.gov.ng/ Beaf:Is this true? na_so:We will need it if that husband of that greedy woman gets into office From recent experience, all the luck goes to him we are left wondering what the matter is with our country |
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~Bluetooth:https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=511258.msg6728119#msg6728119 They claim he stole money, he is anti South, he did not do anything - Idiagbiob did all etc Where is the evidence? |
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playmode:Ribadu is better than Johnathan - Ribadu is sincere but got carried away by zealotry GJ is a PDP true blood and he carries the PDP virus - impunity, disregard for welfare of the masses (CF Ogun state WAEC candidates) and disrepect for rule of law (eg Ngige abduction as family affair; zoning issue, Ogbulafor/Nwodo as 6/half a dozen) Buhari is the best But there is an campaign of calumny against him, but no evidence |
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Beaf:It is really sad that you are standing the truth on its head! This is something that is simply verifiable Nobody says you should not support Johnathan But to claim that a website that is a disgrace is ok is pushing it For a country that has produced Achebe (his book is used in an Ethics class in Harvard University) and Wole Soyinka The first thing on that page is a shame "Jonathan - Sambo administration is focus to establish a, " When you click on "about the Villa" or "Our Government" - you get the same message And you are still calling some people foolish You get this additional info under "Our government" PRESIDENT DR. GOODLUCK EBELE JONATHAN, GCON VICE PRESIDENT ARC MOHAMMED NAMADI SAMBO, GCON, FNIA OFFICE OF THE FIRST LADY THE CABINET Meanwhile, people have been saying zoning is unconstitutional. What about this office of The First Lady Is it constitutional? Is it occupied by somebody whose $13.5m money laundering case has not been decided? BTW is GJ not GCFR? |
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babasoty:If you say zoning (which is in the PDP's constitutipon) has no moral or legal weight, why is it that PDP bothers to amend the constitution at all If morality is not an issue why did Abdusalaami not hand over on Oct 1? He determined what time he required to conduct an election and fixed his exit date shortly after (May 29) rather than hold on till Oct 1 That powerful element is what is called zoning and that was what made Odili and Rimi not get the ticket I remember when a lot of people were saying zoning no longer exists, zoning no longer exists while it remains in the constitution of the PDP Has Johnathan lived up to expectation? Did he deliver on his Dec 2009 6,000 MW assignment If he was hamstrung by Yaradua as some people claim (although he did not say so himself) Why did he not start implementing the plan he had as soon as he became acting VP How long did he take him to come up with a blueprint And do you think that bluepringt is earthsahking? If we listen to his arguments - must we buy 3 new jets. He claims that it was in a previous budget, If that is so, he has not upheld everything he inherited from Yaradua, so must he retain that item in the budget? You have previously argued that the money laundering case against his wife does not affect him On 11 September, 2006, $13.5 million was seized from Patience Jonathan I hope you know that this amount is over 10 times the amount that cost Ogbulafor PDP chairmanship under GJ's presidency Do you seriously believe Patience suddenly came about so much money through her business of, ![]() and that GJ was never found guilty of any offence I hope you know that this also exonerates IBB and everyone of the lot of any guilt since they have not been convicted Nwodo, his preference for PDP chairmanship was involved in the Sunday Afolabi-led ID card scam Is that hope-giving? You say Nigeria is not easy to govern I disagree absolutely; Nigeria is too easy to rule! What is Fashola really doing to warrant all the noise? It is just because of the low standard we have set for ourselves Consider what Obama is going through - he is sprouting grey hairs daily, yet he is being accused of doing nothing The fact that we have no concrete achievements while people are just saying let us give him a chance, he has made some appointments that tilt power in favour of the SE/SS etc (This is zero-sum game politics - this does not improve overall standard of living) implies our leaders fool us easily |
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madprof:Johnathan as VP was in charge of delivering the 6,000 MW target by Dec 2009 Did he achieve it? No Some people have said he did not have executive powers (to act) But after taking executive powers how long did it take him to bring out a plan? 6months. And please study the plan and see how we are going backward and stagnating GJ is not taking us anywhere It is just like the OBJ PR stunts That shows that the man did not even have a plan when he was chair of NIPP The man is incompetent How many initiatives has he taken since he got into politics in 1999 Note that he was a governor between Dec 2005 and May 2007 BTW some people told us that he HAD delivered 24 hours power supply https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-433272.0.html This was in April this year! This is how sentiments drives us away from reality Abagworo:Indecision? How long did it take GJ to bury Ogbulafor for corruption And resurrect Nwodo who was also indicted for corruption in the ID card scam And of course, bury Patience Johnatan's case corruption case with EFCC? Johnathan is of the PDP, by the PDP and for PDP |
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http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/National/5607292-147/vice_chancellor_averts_religious_crisis_at.csp Vice chancellor averts religious crisis at Ibadan university By Jide Jegede August 16, 2010 12:23AM Print print Email email Share Share But for a quick intervention of Olufemi Bamiro, the Vice Chancellor, University of Ibadan, the academic community would probably have been engulfed in religious violence from the end of last week. A 400-level law student of the institution, Seun Bunmi Adegunsoye, was said to have almost provoked tension, as she intruded on a Jumat service going on at a mosque within the university community, shouting ‘accept Jesus’. Ms Adegunsoye, a Christian evangelical and a student of the Law faculty, nearly disrupted the ongoing service led by the institution’s chief imam, Abdulrahman Oloyede, as she continued screaming, “Except you accept Christ in your life, you are not safe. All of you here, no matter the number of the congregation, accept Jesus Christ. Allah is not God; Jesus is Lord”. According to an eyewitness, her conduct attracted the fury of some male Muslims, who waited around the premises of the mosque almost an hour after the service, to deal with her for the “unwarranted provocation”. Mr Bamiro, however, saved the day. He came to the mosque immediately he was contacted, to apologise to the Muslim students, describing the incident as “very surprising and unfortunate”. He also pledged a full investigation into the incident and promised to prevent future occurrences. Though effectively curbed, the incident is already threatening the peace of the institution and that of Ibadan, the Oyo State capital, since it occurred last Friday. Its effect resonated at the institution’s Obafemi Awolowo hall of residence on Sunday, as Muslim students gathered in front of the hall in the morning to engage their Christian fellow students in a verbal war. The mounting tension arising from the encounter was only quelled by security operatives drafted to the scene. Already, the matter is dominating discussions among notable Islamic leaders and Hausa community leaders in the city, who considered it strange, particularly as it came on the first Friday of the holy month of Ramadan. Planning a protest A source also informed us that Muslim students of the institution are planning to stage a protest to the office of the vice chancellor and that of the dean of the faculty of law. We further learnt that they would be demanding a stoppage to the examinations of the law faculty, scheduled to start today, until Ms Adegunsoye is brought to justice. Addressing journalists at the weekend, Zakariyah Giwa, President of the Muslim Students Society of Nigeria (MSSN), University of Ibadan branch, alleged that the incident was a ploy to “perpetuate religious crisis in Nigeria, starting from the campus of the University of Ibadan”, describing it as unfortunate. He said Ms Adegunsoye’s action was a clear effrontery, alleging that, for the first time in history, she dressed like a Muslim to detract a jumat service in the month of Ramadan at the time the Chief Imam was leading the prayer. “To our dismay and to the surprise of the whole Muslim community, we learnt that the girl has been released to her parents, the following day, by the university authority, without any reference to the Muslim community, due to the purported intervention of two senior officials of the university. The terrorist is let loose despite the heinous crime she had committed,” he said |
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paddy_lo:1. same arguments that are constantly used to drown us in debt. So we end up with the debt, but not the project 2. systematically - go and check my posts and yours and see who is guilty here I have demonstrated that Yaradua was slow, but what has GJ done beyond planning self succession He has not even delivered on his promised masterplans - Power and Niger Delta 3. I have demonstrated more credibility than you 4. I don't understand your brand of debt to GDP. I am sure prof Nwankwo, the DG of DMO doesn't either. Go and read his speech of last week 5. I really believe that when we see a snake (large sum of money is offered for a near-dead Nitel), we should kill it (take the money) and not call a committee to decide BTW, when I say look at our borrowing and project management track record, you say I am stuck in the past But if I say let us vote IBB in next year, you are sure to say "what about his track record"! |
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Beaf:I am waiting for you to justify this typical high sounding arguments used to rationalise white elephants Somebody has said that SA borrowed $3b for power project But they never tell us that borrowing have the same effect across countries - you become a debtor while fiscal discipline, integriy and project management skills are far apart |
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Beaf:Johnathan became governor in Dec 2005 The buch stopped at his desk for 18 months back then What were the achievements? The fact that I mentioned are to buttress the fact that GJ is part and parcel of the order that cannot be trusted to borrow money and spend it wisely While you mentioned Turai earlier The point is money that goes into that project may not even be recouped once GJ has also got a greedy wife http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5565603-146/patience_we_are_watching.csp |
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Beaf:compare Nigeria and India please cf Literacy, work ethic, institutions etc |
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Beaf: How come the money Obj put into it in his time has not been clawed back .5 times Do you remember that in Jan 2007 when Obj/Yaradua/Johnathan were campaigning, they promised us 10,000MW by Dec 2007 Do you remember that they suddenly said it was no longer feasible after the election results were announced Do you remember they gave several deadlines with the latest being 6,000MW by Dec 2009 What has now changed? GJ has been in govt house in one capacity or the other since 1999 He has not resolved Nitel privatisation - a simple matter that arose when he was acting president Do you remember our debt rating in 2005? Do you remember what it was when Alahaji Alhaji was piliing up debts in the 90s Based on our track record, can you provide just 5 specific reasons (no need to try a million general excuses) why my questions are laughable |
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Beaf:ok Let us talk about how Johnathan want to integrate his grid into the NIPP project His plan for financing the project and for pricing it and the impact on our dent rating! |
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paddy_lo:What reforms did Yaradua stall? Details please - no need muttering about them And what reforms and deregulation has GJ introduced? And do you really believe that in 4 months, they came up with a comprehensive plan - (in 4 months they surveyed the power infrastrucure in Nigerian? - a country you admitted is big!) I see any plan by GJ as the outcome of the Dec 2009 deadline he missed and if they did, where is the plan And if the guy is so quick, how come he has not resolved the issue of privatisation of Nitel which arose after he became acting president? |
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paddy_lo:Yaradua did not disband NERC - those guys were caught in a corruption scandal BTW NERC is a regulator, ot could not have interfered with NIPP projects Neither did he put NIPP on hold Let Johnathan himself come out and say that Yaradua did So like I mentioned, the project was starved of fund - but what about the plans Nobody is stopping Johnathan from publishing his ideas now - he is CEO The only thing he has done is to remove the minister - so what about the plan paddy_lo:The proof that I am well is that I am still following my parents' advice to disagree with people without being abusive paddy_lo:What is the proof that this loan will not become an albatraoss? We have heard all these arguments before - ask Alhaji Alhaji And what is $3b to South Africa Soludo said we need more than 35 years to catch up with South Africa Our debt:GDP is below 5% now Soon, with GJ plan's we will double our debt stock and we will burst the sustainability limit that DMO announced just last week Yaradua was slow, GJ is slower in economic and social issues But faster than a cheetah in politicking I don't need to be related to Yaradua to check unbridled propaganda |
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Beaf:This is not true Johnathan himself only complained that he was not allowed to see Yaradua when he was sick He has not complained that he was not allowed to take initiatives to achieve the 6,000mw target I cannot even imagine that Yaradua would even frustrate a project that was crucial to his credibility He may not release money to fund projects, but to prevent ideas from being generated on the power sector is impossible So if johnathan had ideas and was not allowed to implement them, let him publish his agenda Did you remember the coundown in Businessday about Johnathan's promise to give a blue print on power sector Did he achieve it? No he did not So what is his agenda for the power sector BTW, can you remind us the achievements of Jonhathan as governor after taking over from Alams in Dec 2005 Remember his tenure as governor is longer than what he has spent so far as president The only actions that are coming rapidly from GJ are his self succession plans remove ogbulafor, defend Iwu as much as posible and then appoint somebody who has little time You said Yaradua achieved nothing, and you went ahead to credit Johnathan with rule of law and credible elecvtion As soon as I pointed out that those were yaradua's ideas, they suddenly became "nothing" |
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Beaf:Yaradua planned nothing? What about dredging of the Niger? What about Uwais Panel on credible elections? 7-point agenda? Vision 2020 20? If Yaradua had nothing What does Johnathan have? Please tell us GJ's strategic agenda rather than his operational plans His borrowing will throw us back into slavery http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=180459 There is no argument that Johnathan is using now to justify his borrowings that past governments did not advance And let us forget about propaganda we know people who have said power poroblems had been sloved as far back as April this year https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-433272.0.html And these grandiose promises are similar to the half-completed project he went to commission wih Akala in Ibadan BTW did Johnathan just plan this project he signed since he took over? Rememer that anything power has been his baby since 2007 |
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@labiyemmy:I hope you know that this is not the first time people would raise our hopes only to dash it But the debts are there for us to pay FYI Johnathan is about to more than double our foreign debts Jonathan Seeks N’Assembly’s Nod for $4.4bn Loan http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=180459 Did you remember the story about johnathan having finally solved the power problem inn Nigeria? https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-433272.0.html |
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Beaf: Yaradua achieved nothing? Who "forced" johnathan to publicly declare his assets Who first spoke about rule of law which enabled the man that blocked Johnathan's blockade to be alive today And under which some state governors were able to reclaim their stolen mandate (did that happen under Obj for instance?) Who made Johnathan the chairman of the NIPP project which was to deliver 6,000mw by Dec 2009 And did Johnathan achieve that target BTW it was Yaradua that setup the Uwais Committe and who has buried it - is it not Johnanthan When did Johnathan stop supporting Iwu? (he said he had conducted 2 fair elections with Iwu) Until the US insisted that Iwu was a problem - that was it And credible elections - where is the proof? Abacha spoke more about credible elections than Johnathan has done - talk is not action |
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Beaf:To call him a figure-head or a weakling will be untrue He was GOC of the 3rd Armoured division that drove Chadians troops (who had taken Nigerian territories) back to their country He was firm in his resolve to defend the Nigerian territory and send a warning to those foreign troops or rebels This was under Shagari administration Beaf:This is not true. To start with, a military man would just not be figure-head and allow a subordinate run the show If you watch the tapes of the interview he gave, you would see a man who did not shy away from clarifying his position on issues Yes Idiagbon projected an image of a strongman, but Buhari was also a strong character It was not so common those days for a "weakling" to become a major general |
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pres-elect:This is not exactly true Buhari had been a minister and state governor prior to becoming a head of state in 1983 |
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