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These people just hate us!

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/295001

A Voice of Nigeria senior correspondent in South Africa has lamented the unfortunate spate of attacks on immigrants in South Africa.
Xenophobic violence exploded in South Africa in 2008 and scores of people were killed and more than 100,000 people displaced. On Tuesday police arrested ten persons in connection to recent xenophobic violence in Kya Sands, Johannesburg after 6 foreigners were reportedly injured in fresh xenophobia violence.
In an interview with this reporter, Collins Atohengge said 10 African immigrants have died since the end of the FIFA World Cup, confirming the fears of many that attacks on foreigners would resume after the first mundial on African soil.
What are the nationalities of immigrants affected in recent xenophobic attacks?
Actually it’s not restricted to Zimbabweans, but I will say for now they are the most hit, Somalians have died, at least about six Somalians have died so far, they listed some countries which included Nigeria, Mozambique, Malawi and Ghana that they don't want in their midst and its so unfortunate that’s its happening in South Africa, shortly after the World Cup.
So these deaths were after the World Cup?
Oh yes, ten people have died since, after the world cup in the hands of hoodlums, who according to government, they are hoodlums or miscreants who are perpetrating the xenophobia attacks.
Are these attacks spread across South Africa or just restricted to Johannesburg?
Its not restricted to Johannesburg, , it started in Western Cape where a Somalian was shot in his shop and two other Somalians were forced to move away; and the type of thing that is happening here is that once the police goes into some where may be to preserve or ensure the safety of people, before you know it they will move to another place. So they moved to Kya Sands, its a township in the north of Johannesburg and no one knows exactly were they will move to and since they are miscreants they don't care about any thing, so one would be surprised where they going to, that’s the truth.
Is it true that South Africans who are angry with corruption and infrastructural problem are venting their anger on immigrants?
If you are angry with the government, you don't begin to fight foreigners, and that is misplaced anger to be more precise and if they have any reason to fight their government, then they should fight without endangering the life of innocent foreigners; use Nigeria for example, how would that make the government to be up its responsibility, so that’s not an excuse.
Generally there are some people in South Africa who believe that foreigners have come to take over their businesses and among those that are actually saying it are people who doesn't even work. They can't work, you see them from morning till evening they are drunk and then at the slightest provocation they draw out knives and guns, so that really is very painful on a general note.
What are the police doing in this regard?
In the very case of Kya Sands, for instance, the police had to use rubber bullets and they employed the use of helicopter and started driving people from the streets who were involved. Foreigners in Kya Sands, were beginning to pack their wares. If you go the border between South Africa and Zimbabwe, you will see truck load of Zimbabweans who are leaving.
Implication
Not quite a week ago, so many locals in Western Cape was lamenting the departure of foreigners because they are now forced to go to super markets, they are now forced to go long distances to go and buy things and they buy it at a much more expensive rate. So sometimes you begin to imagine of what benefit is it.
You find a Nigerian for example that is here in Johannesburg has business employing thirty South Africans, the business will close and they will become much more unemployed.
The South African youth and liberation history
The unfortunate thing is that the average South African youth does not know the history of the liberation in his country which African nations contributed, I had to tell somebody for instance that for 15years, I was contributing a percentage of my salary for the liberation of South Africa. Voice of Nigeria was a member of the National Action Committee against Apartheid and I produced three programmes: Freedom Our Goal, South Africa for Us and Letter to My Brother in Kiswahili to fight the Apartheid regime. Now if they are not aware of what material and financial and diplomatic effort that Nigeria had put into the liberation of South Africa from Apartheid, not only Nigeria, Ghana, why won't they stand up to fight Nigerians.

Please watch out

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/295085

Report: Laptop, Wi-Fi radiation may affect male fertility
By Igor I. Solar.
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Buenos Aires - Argentine researchers have found that radiation emitted by an Internet-connected computer resting on the user’s legs may affect male fertility by reducing sperm motility and fragmenting DNA.
The research, first in the world on the subject, was carried out by experts from Nascentis, a reproductive medicine center located in Córdoba, Argentina. The results of the study will be presented at the 66 Congress of the American Society for Reproductive Medicine (ASRM) taking place in October in Denver, USA.
The researchers (led by Conrado Avendaño, a biochemist specializing in andrology, in collaboration with Ariela Mata, reproductive biology specialist and César Sánchez Sarmiento, director of the medical center, among others) demonstrated that the motility of spermatozoa is impaired when these cells are exposed to the radiation from laptops, according to a report published in the Córdoba newspaper “La Voz” (in Spanish).
For this study, the researchers evaluated semen samples from healthy donors with no history of recent illnesses. Each sample was divided into two equal fractions, which were placed in separate temperature-controlled rooms. One of the sub-samples was incubated under a laptop connected to the Internet, to replicate the conditions that occur when a man places the computer on his lap.

"After four hours of incubation of sperm under the two different conditions, we found that in the sample exposed to the laptop, a large percentage of the sperm cells were affected,"

said Dr. Avendaño to "La Voz”. The investigator concludes that their study shows that exposure of sperm to the radiation from the device did not kill the sperm cells, but affected their motility. Further, by evaluating the sperm cells’ DNA integrity, they found that there was a significant difference between both sub-samples:

"The fraction exposed to radiation had a significant increase in sperm cells with fragmented (broken) DNA,"

said Avendaño.
The findings are important because previous studies on reproductive medicine have shown that some of the problems in fertilization and embryonic development are caused by damage in the DNA molecules of the sperm.
While agreeing that further research on the matter is required, the researchers advise men to avoid holding laptop computers on the legs, "especially if they are connected to Internet through Wi-Fi."
This research brings new knowledge on the effects of electromagnetic fields (EMF) on human health. EMF levels from Wi-Fi devices are much lower than those emitted by mobile phones, and there is less public concern on potential health issues for wireless LAN devices. The Health Protection Agency (HPA) claims that if a person spends one year in a Wi-Fi hot-spot, they will receive a dose of radio waves equivalent to a 20-minute call on a mobile phone.
Often wireless access points are in close proximity to humans, but the drop off in the already low power over distance is fast, following the inverse-square law (*). Nonetheless, the results of this study suggest that when a laptop is operated for long periods, the close proximity to the source of the EMF may affect a male user sensitive reproductive cells causing damage to DNA and reducing sperm cell motility.
(*) The radiation passing through any unit area is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the source.

Nymph node:
How is a man supposed to take care of three kids, go to work hang out once in a while with guys and stuffs. That's one sick contract to me. It definitely will work for a woman though. Kids are supposed to hang out with their mum so little question will be asked. Imagine a man with 3 kids all the time. People go ask question na.

My fear is that this may open a route to some criminal undertaking
Who will ask for these children if the man decides to use them for whatever - prostitution, ritual killing, sexual abuse?
The commercial transaction that produced the children may also point to a lack of emotion on the parents' part

Chongaiman:
The fact still remains that the NASS is more of a liability than an asset to 9ja. And instead of them to do some soul-searching for once, there they go again yarning opata. The utterances and actions of our prodigal lawmakers often leave me with a feeling of helplessness and self-pity.

Obj caused the problem
Shortly after taking power in 1999, Obj had a confrontation with the NASS
Obj had just taken some actions that people liked
The public clearly sided with Obj and it was not difficult for him to face down the NASS then

But when he started sliding, the NASS regained relevance and close to the end of his 1st term NASS began a very serious impeachment process
Had Obj remained focussed on performance and becoming a statesman, the NASS could not have touched him at anytime

I see his main problem as the need to refer things to NASS for approval
An egoistic dictator finds that hard to take

Smog in Moscow
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100806/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_russia_fires

Volcano in Indonesia
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100806/ap_on_re_as/as_indonesia_volcanic_eruption

Oil Spill in China
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100730/ap_on_bi_ge/as_china_pipeline_explosion

Flooding in China
http://www.inhabitat.com/2010/07/28/flooding-threatens-to-overwhelm-chinas-three-gorges-dam/

Flooding in Pakistan
http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art2010080612371234

Earthquake in Haiti
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/01/earthquake_in_haiti.html


Oil Spill in US
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36947751/

In Nigeria
Man made disasters are the norm
Politicians killing their opponents
Police killing people at chekpoints, miscarrying justice for money
Government officials putting their private interests first
Politicians looting the treasury
etc are the norm

kobikwelu:
yeah!!! we all know already


the point is that he starved businesses of funds,

most of the advanced countries run basically on risk management

he has discouraged all form of risk


strangely risk assets yields the most profit

and they have also yielded the largest jump in the level of unemployment in the US since the great depression
And did he really starve business of fund? He provided N620b to some banks
and he is giving N500b to the real sector

ukcatlover:
Is it only banana they can find cure for? Tomorrow some body will go for cure and they will say the machine is not working or no instrument. Nigeria we knows all the story

IITA's remit is tropical agric research and they are good at it

hugooh42:
Thanks my brother for that insights, but you failed to mentioned OBJ's puplic support for Chris Uba. When he abducted a sitting governor Dr Chris Ngige and demanded a ransom of Three billion,Obj openly supported him and said "agreement is agreement".Obj provided Chris Uba with battalion of policemen in his entourage and when his thugs burnt down the whole state government aparatus while mobile policemen looked on Obj did not say anything.As far as am concern that was the beginning of kidnapping in south eastern states and OBJ aided and abetted it.

Thanks for reminding me
The Uba case is an impeachable offence anywhere there are men of goodwill

The ransacking of Anambra was to pave way for a declaration of a state of emergency
I cannot understand why anybody from anambra can bear to stay in the same room with such a person
BTW the police commissioner who was in Anambra and who claimed that the police could not match the thugs was OGBAUDU
He was later posted to Port Harcourt
That Ogbaudu case was the first time the Nigerian Police had ever conceded victory to criminals
I reckon that Ogbaudu would in due course join his felow felons in getting a national award for "selfless" service - CON may be appropriate

we really can fill numerous pages with the Obj's monumental unpatriotic acts

Ileke-IdI:

truly link=topic=492159.msg6525467#msg6525467 date=1281107271:
No. Unless the scientific discovery will revolutionalise election rigging

nah, we gotta wait another few centuries for that

No you misunderstand me
The scientist will only get an award if that discovery will make it possible for the ruling party to rig massively WITHOUT detection
this is like making it possible to commit a perfect crime!

seanet02:
its incredible you can say this with all what she did for this country
seems you are from SAHARA DESERT

What did she do for this country?
like browbeating Ayoka to come out of hiding to announce the result of the Ekiti rerun election in favour of PDP
or telling us that without the OB equipment, FIFA would not allow us to host the U-17 competition
Anyway she got her contract from the NASS
But months after the competition, no OB equipment

I never saw Dora speaking out the truth passionately to Yaradua when the gentleman was firmly in power, sick or not
or BTW any president

Beaf:
Its more likely Aganga will be given more power, especially after the gaff by one of his junior ministers.

There was no gaffe by the minister
Go and read up on this matter
NNPC GMD, Oniwon, WROTE to FAAC that NNPC was insolvent
Babalola simply read that letter

maybe writing it is not a crime, but reading it aloud is
Aganga has only one junior minster BTW

Ileke-IdI:
Great news.

Does the scientist get some kinda award for this?

No. Unless the scientific discovery will revolutionalise election rigging

DaddyO:
My respect for OBJ grows in leaps and bounds by the day. Whatever people say/think about him, he always speaks up! Whether or not curruption was common in his regime, it's been no more rampant than what obtained under IBB and the rest before him. I even think Yar's regime was more currupt and ineffective, albeit more conservative!

I can't imagine the likes of IBB, Atiku or Tinubu complaining about curruption. Their priority is how to remain popular amongst influencial criminals (national assembly) in the polity! It's all about their pockets. Bloody thieves.

my DISDAIN for Obj grows in leaps and bounds daily. Whatever the expectations of people, he only speaks partial truth.
I cannot imagine the likes of IBB, Atiku or Tinubu being as hypocritical as an Obj railing against corruption whilst being enmeshed in it

You will reacall that when Obj was carrying on about corruption and disqualifying every body in 2007, IBB just pointed out cooly
that Obj's administration was not not saintly
Of course, Obj kept quiet

And don't forget his fray with Orji Kalu
Orji Kalu said that Obj could not accuse of stealing that he had mkney before coming into government
and that he donated N100m to Obj's campaign
Obj said that Kalu donated the money to PDP
Kalue countered that the cheque was cleared through Obj' account
Obj kept quiet   

The Federal government had enough evidence to nail Makanjuola - Obj's cousin - for corruption
Suddenly Obj' Justice Minister - Kanu Agabi - withdrew the case from court via a nolle prosequi

He harrases legislators for being corrupt, but his daughter is one of them.
When his daughter was being sought by EFCC for the Health Ministry scam, did he speak the truth by asking Iyabo to show up? No he did not

He always accused Atiku of corruption, but when the chips were down
we saw a cheques on PTDF account in favour of ladies, and companies related to Obj
Obj gave the contract for incorporation of  Galaxy backbone to his friend and lawyer, Afe Babalola. That job cost all of us N250m - for just 1 company

Obj without due process and budgetary approval mobilised contractors to start work on Abuja stadium
How much did the project cost us
Obj said Atiku got a friend to front for him to buy AP; Atiku denied it, Obj continued to insist
Meanwhile, Obj was buying shares in Transcorp

Obj hated corruption so much that he started bribing legislators to amend the constitution to allow a 3rd term
He knew Yaradua was sick, but continued to say that electing him (Yaradua) was a do-or-die affair. Why?
Without legislative approval, he signed away Bakassi

Obj vetoed the Freedom of Information Bill after the legislature has approved it
Obj asked the legislators for N1b to hold a national conference
The NASS said no, insisting that the presidency had enough money to organise the event

Suddenly this money materialised from the presidency and Obj organised the event without additional budgetary approval
So what would have happended to that money without the conference being held?

When Bola Ige died, Obj pretended to be sad
But subsequent events revealed that he is a cheap liar
The judge resigned because he was being pressured from unexpected quarters
Obj said he said that he had been trying to see Debo Akande - the prosecutor
Debo Akande simply pointed out that there is no Nigerian who has not gone into hiding
that the president would like to see and would be able to avoid the president for even 1 week

Obasanjo in the twilight of his administration suddenly announced that the police - under that despicable Ehindero - had made a breakthrough
in the Bola Ige's case
So who is the culprit - one drug baron, masked speaking to journalist behind a screen to whom questions could not be put
And has the man be prosecuted? May be tommorrow


In 2007, nobody was allowed to contest freely against Obj's candidates
People were just being indicted and disqualified
At first, Tejuoso who was to stand against Obj's daughter was indicted and disqualified
When people pointed out that Tejuoso had never being in government and wondered why  he was being indicted
they hurriedly reversed the indictment

We can fill 5 pages here with FACTUAL account of Obj's misdemeanors

blank:
This Sanusi opens his mouth too much.
He should know when and where to say such things

Was that really an inappropriate forum - addressing members of MAN?

Jahba:
IBB is a power drunk frustrated and depressed man who is trying to make us feel he cares about Nigeria. 1. He is fighting for rellevance in PDP, 2. . To bad that he has no shame, talking about PDP constitution as if its a law/constitution of Fed Rep of Nigeria. This is mare party registerred just like any business incorporated in Nigeria. PDP cannot afford to let Jonathan join another party, hence a division and big doom will come over PDP next election. Can someone ask IBB to browse the niger websites/newspapers to see how terrible people speak of him. He cannot even hold any public campaign or address any social or academic group in the Southeast/Southsouth, not to talk of wild wild west of Nigeria. Otherwise people like IBB, in the past, have capitalised on lack of information/communication to control our destiny.

IBB cannot be power drunk and be seeking relevance at the same time - choose one
IBB is not the only one talking about PDP constitution - PDP chairman Nwodo has talked about it
PDP constitution say that you cannot take the party to court and people have been living with that
Remember that PDP joined PDP willingly and that is due to the right of association in the federal constitution
But you have to respect rules of your own party.
Our constitution does not allow you to be an independent candidate

Actually, IBB is helping with this communication
Suppose he had waited till the eve of the convention to point to this clause

The people who are taking advantage are the people assuring you that zoning is dead while it is still in the PDP constitution

Kidnappers do not usually use their phones (and their own SIM card) to make calls to demand ransome
Using the victim's phone (and SIM card) achieves at least 2 benefits
They easily get the numbers of the victim's relatives (husband, wife, children) from the victim's phone
The victim's relatives can easily confirm (from the call from the victim's line) that the caller is in touch with the kidnapped person

It is hard to believe that armed robbers cannot rob people of their registered SIM in order to use same to make calls
I reckon that just like people report the theft of their cars to the police in order to avoid beong linked with any possible crime comiitted with the car
People will report loss of SIM card for that same purpose
I mean, people do not report robbery of cars simply for the purpose of the recovery of the car - primary reason is to avoid police trouble

Too late!
The man has been impeached!

We need death penalty
If Ogbulafor can lose the chairmaship of PDP for an issue involving less then N200m
why do we need to keep these guys for a crime involving N4b?
With N4b, I can become the governor of a state
Is this how we want our governors to emerge
As far as I am concerned, bullets are not enough!
Straping a bullet to people will be better
The chinese should go to their country to get what is due to them
I can argue that their destination is China and they wanted to rebag at Iganmu


BTW I am not afraid of retaliation by the chinese
IF Nigerians are truly guilty, what is the problem - execute them
Anybody who can traffick drugs in China will kill in Nigeria

Foreigners treat ALL Nigerians - male and female - badly in Nigeria
A few years ago, an Indian company locked up Nigerians (typical and ongoing practice)  in their factory at Ikorodu
When a fire broke out, many Nigerians were killed
what happened? Oh, the company got a bigger land

It was not long ago that HFP, Julius Berger etc stopped using converted containers to transport their Nigerian workers
Go to any factory owned by foreigners and see how our countrymen are treated
 
A newspaper once reported that a foreigner once  threatened a Roads Safety Officer at a check point
(were I a policeman and I was there, I would kill the guy (even if he is the ambassador) first and contempplate the consequences later)
I know a Nigerian who was threatened with mortal a few years ago by the man running Lagoon Restaurant

Nigerians are third class citizens in their country!

Problem is they don't wait for God to answer prayers when they are seeking offices
They take matters into their hands - assasination, thuggery, intimidation, rigging, blackmail, impeachments, removing opponents from office
But when Nigerians ask for performance, they suddenly become God fearing - we should trust God, pray etc

Jakumo:
Ha ha Now this is really amusing.

That smelly, ugly, thieving, hook-nosed LovePeddler has obviously forgotten that her husband lived to murder innocent civilians and loot the Nigerian federal treasury with reckless abandon, before croaking on the downstroke of a heart attack while buggering an AIDS infested Indian transvestite, after which he was transported straight to hell, where he is currently getting his ruptured anus reamed by red-eyed demons with spiny wee-wees, in between forced labor and serious flogging at the raging fire pits. Muaha ha ha !

Do I like the Abachas? NO
But we can still moderate our language

How can one compare Tinubu to PDP - the cradle of corruption
Look at the people Tinubu served with - Daniel, Agagu, Ladoja/Akala
Chimaroke Nnamani, Ibori, Lucky Igbinedion, Odili
The Fed allocation when these people served was much lower than what governors are sharing now
Even then, Obj witheld federal allocation from Tinubu on account of his creation of additional LGs
So it is statistically wrong to compare Chime and Amaechi to Tinubu in terms of resources
Notwithstanding I live in Lagos, let us name the projects done by these people

BTW Amaechi was one of those who advised Johnathan to send footbal into the wilderness for 2 years
while Dophins players had not reciced salary for 6 months

na_so:
Which buhari are we talking of here? is he not the one that executed almost PTF projects in the north without any regard for other regions? So if someone like him does not protect northern interest , i wonder who has.

Would this argument not have been used against him in both 2003 and 2007 elections?
FYI when he was president his minister of petroleum resources was Tam David West
When Britain refused to extradite Dikko (a Northerner) for serious corruption charges, he arranged to kidnap the man and bring him to Nigera
And please point to 5 southerners who are not tribalistic?

lord krato:
Buhari the north will not vote an inch for that guy.They are looking for someone with their interest in mind and knowing buhari,he is most def not the man they will pick,

And by the way, this person is saying that he would not be working for the North

Ltrust:
Buhari in this modern world!! We needed a youthful president that can our problem with zeal. 82% of those in the ruling class in this country are over 57. We need leaders with vision not rulers with authority without vision.

What modern world?
The one of bankole, Ibori, uduaghan, Kalu etc
who are even more corrupt than the "oldies?"
I would rather vote for an old man than a bunch of youthful high tech thieves!

Seriously, it does not matter very seriously if we want to vote for GJ by all means
But let us be honest about it and stop using arguments that are untrue

For instance, do we think the North will not be able to argue that GJ is tribalistic?
If we want to argue that Nothern candidates are tribalistic, then we must not support any candidate on account of his tribe

These are the people that will be taking action on the spot

Policeman kills bus driver over N50
July 28
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/Metro/Crime/5599728-146/story.csp

Policeman kills driver over N20 bribe
June 24
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/Metro/Crime/5584842-146/policeman_kills_driver_over_n20_bribe.csp

Nigerian Police is Predator of the Press
The group had further blamed the Nigeria Police Force, led by Mr. Onovo, for making the country “one of the world’s most violent countries for journalists.”
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5597784-146/onovo_snaps_over_questions_about_his.csp

Nigerian policemen are professional extortioners - Onovo
“I will soon remove the road blocks because the objective for which they were introduced has been defeated. I don’t see what use and benefit they have achieved other than the exploitation of hapless masses. The road blocks were introduced to reduce crimes, check rampant spread of arms and ammunitions, but I don’t know how many arms and ammunitions that have been recovered in road blocks. Our men have failed woefully there but if it is extortion of money, they have excelled and succeeded.”
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5598154-146/ogbonna_onovo_on_kidnapping__.csp

These are only recent events and  from Next alone!

Update

August 5, 2010

Police officer in custody for defiling 15-year-old girl
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5602989-146/police_officer_in_custody_for_defiling.csp

August 5, 2010

17-year-old in coma after police torture
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/Metro/Politics/5602849-146/17-year-old_in_coma_after_police_torture.csp

http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18116:greed-threat-to-nigerias-survival-says-president&catid=1:national&Itemid=559

Greed, threat to Nigeria’s survival, says president

See typical posturing by a man who
has been a member of the most corrupt party in Nigeria since inception
is now the party's leader
is the husband of the person who in 2007 held the record of the “greediest person in Bayelsa State.”
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5565603-146/patience_we_are_watching.csp
wants to spend N9.5b (or is it now N16b) on a day's event

Beaf:
You no fit catch Bin Laden and you're talking about bullets whizzing!!! You no fit do as dem de do for film?
Abeg, throw one al-qaeda come, make we lynch am jare!

please don't lynch the faraway al-Qaeda, please lynch the neighbourhood leeches looting our treasury
asking for N500m dep for governorship application
and how much for presidency?

ikenwan:
If a man lived in an area with a very high crime rate, he may very well choose to arm himself. If the National Police, incompetent as they are, were to arrive at an area where a crime had been committed and see him, it is possible that they might mistake him for the culprit.

This is the lesson US forces had to learn in Iraq and Afghanistan. Not everyone with a weapon was an insurgent. Some families and local tribes had taken to arming themselves so that they could fight back against armed robbers and highwaymen.

we don't even need to go that far
Amny years ago in Lagos, the police killed an Army colonel at a checkpoint
They quickly arranged to place a gun beisde his corpse
Of course, the soldiers scaked so many police stations abd check points

Imagine if the guy were not a soldier
case would have been "armed robber killed by eagle-eyed policeman"

Yinkaboy:
Ibori is not a fefugee, and any country has the right to deny asylum seeker Becomrich0, the  host country decides who meets the criteria.

The US and Uk, have allowed there citizens to deported or extradited to other countries. It often happens to dual nationals in terrorist cases. Where they believe there is better evidence, or that they will be dealt with more harshly.


Its a good thing he is being deported to the UK. Ibori will stand as a warning to Nigerian politicians, there`s no country you can run to. The US will block you and family from entering the country (Aoondaka), Dubai will deport you, the UK will jail you for fraud, SA will beat you, the EEFC will hound you to your last breadth.

Look at the Abacha case in Swiss also!

Do you seriously believe that Ibori's case is the beginning of a big fight against corruption
FYI every, repeat EVERY, Nigerian elected into public office is corrupt
You can never become the candidate of a major party without playing ball
FYI again, there is NO minister whose nomination was confirmed without the NASS being settled
If he did not pay, it was paid on his behalf

Warning? don't oppose the incumbent if you are corrupt
But if you have the incumbent on your side, you can afford to help yourself

Look at this
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/Metro/Politics/5599268-147/pdp_disqualifies_aspirants_with_less_than.csp

Obalende:
desgiedz
will an innocent civilian be carrying a gun, knife or other weapon in a crime scene? too coincidental for the person to be innocent.

i understand your point though - maybe they should taser instead? but definitely, the on the spot concept is what will work in nigeria. If robbers rob a bank and depart in their van with millions, civilised methods mostly will not work because its often difficult to trace the robbers; but if you shoot and kill on the spot, justice is done; i know it seems harsh but thats my mind; the reason it has to be done this way is that nigerians go crazy with everything; there was forex craze until foreign brokers made specific policies to stop opening accs for nigerians. then kidnapping, with each successfulkidnapping, the ill is reinforced. it will take an uncommon decision and method to stop it; one many will not agree with such as this - many ppl are now entering kidnapping because they feel there is no serious consequence.

my two cents.

Who is the society for - the criminals or the innocent?
It is disheartening to see people rationalising gradual tyranny  
The issue of foreign brokers is vastly different from a situation when any provocation can result in the death of innocent people
Awosika, Apo 6 are still fresh in our minds
So who are protecting while killing innocent people

By the way, only special policemen (raiders) engage armed robbers
So the regular policemen are terrified of them
Check out what they did at ETB Ketu
I watched an old film recently - Casablanca - and discovered how policemen just waste lives of innocent people
just to be able to report action

The issue of kidnapping goes beyond SIM card registration and shooting people on the spot
What happens to the victims when you are opening fire
A friend was once robbed of his car and also held hostage by the robbers
He wasin their convoy car as they raided other cards and engaged policemen
He was eventually realeased close to the border with Benin republic

vinmol:
kudos to all buhari faithfuls o!

say all u want to say, my take is this, this buhari and his cohorts has been ruling long before i was born now am old enough to rule,
my point is, we need fresh blood and fresh ideas, let these old cargos allow the new generation to rule and lead in their time!

BUHARI TIME DON PASS!!!

So it is the time of Dino Melaye, Etteh, Bankole, Ibori, Lucky Igbinedion, Fayose
Ohakim - https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-484232.96.html

These younger guys are even worse

vinmol:
see your neck like ostrich!  are u better? as former head of state what was your contribution? NOTHING! u thing we do not know?

wat of Kudirat that was killed and all the breadwinners Al Mustapha masterminded their killings? will you go tot he grave to wake them up?

please you can not get Nigerians with this your sentimental talk, if u get chance for PDP (Phanthoms deceiving People) you sef go enter, so BUHARI SHUT THE F***** up!

I still feel bad about Kudirat's death - anybody with any sense of justice should
But what the man is saying is conclude the case - either for or against Al Mustapha
In the US, many people lost their fortune (and some eventually their life) because of the Madoff swindle
But we know that Madoff case has been concluded - so cause of justice is served

na_so:
Yes you(Buhari) are the best person to recognise kidnap when you see it. Afterall you arranged as head of state, the kidnap of Umaru dikko from london.

bravo

Dikko is a northern muslim like Buhari, but he still went after him because of his corruption
I have no problem with that
Read history - the situation at the time necessitated that
It was a decision that Nigerians overwhelmingly supported

Drunk:
Not when PTDF money he stole kept is still sustaining his election campaigns. They would all seduce the intelligence of Nigerians to get to their ultimate goal

The relationship between Obj and Buhari is now such that  if Buhari had stolen PTDF money, Obj would have nearly hung him
Obj would have used EFCC to stop him from contesting either in 2003 and 2007

~Bluetooth:
When did buhari became a true democrat ? He lacks everything to say anything about pdp. . . Only God know maybe he would have conduct another coup if not for his retirement from the army.big foool

It is easy to see Buhari as simply a coup planner
But if you listen to people who were around - people were fed up with NPN in 1983
Remember that the man struck after a shameful election, not before
Don't forget that Nigerians still mutter about the Rawlings solution even in present day Nigeria
Obj was originally a product of a coup

Vainglory:
Agreed. Buhari has the pedigree to fight Indicipline and Corruption in Nigeria. But the man shot himself in the leg when he turned jihadist. I even heard he asked northern moslems never to vote for any christian. That is not the kind of leader we need now.

can you prove this?
And did he work with southerners as a president - remember that Tam David West was his Minister of Petroleum - not Rilwan Lukman
Did he allow professionals to work with him?

There is nobody without blame
I really feel that Nigeria needs to empower a leader who has a mind of his own and is truly anti-corruption

When you say Buhari is a jihadist, remember that he used to adore Obj
but somehow things went awry between them - what happened
Please google the interview he granted to Sun

My view is that we may look back several years from now and  regret missing an opportunity because
we were looking for a saint

As we can see from other posts on NL, even the religious leaders are not saints

One of the problems I have with analysts here
we just believe everything that is negative about people we dislike and doubt negative facts about those we like

Army and Navy are spending N500b on procurement
What about airforce?
What about salaries and other recurrent expenditure?

Yet somebody has posted the entire budget = N4.6tr - it has even been revised to N4.4tr
Defence spending in that budget is N217b