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alexleo: If u call yourself a christian and you dont understand what i wrote just like that atheist up there then u ar e deceiving yourself in christianity. Of course you are among the people here spreading false and cheap gospel so i can understand your problem. And who cares about your catholic?thank you my friend. |
Joagbaje: Tithing didnt originate in the law. Melchizedek order was higher in rank than levitical order . Christ is in continuation of Melchizedek order. Levitical order was for jews . Melchizedek was not for jews. Jesus is high priest in order of Melchizedek . This is simple enough. Tithing as a principle existed before the law. Likewise offering and some other spiritual principles . The law was only an interruption , the abolishing of the law does not negate principles which existed before the law. If that's the case , we should do away with offerings ,prayers, etcso men who are dying are still collecting tith in the new covanant? "And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:" (Hebrews 7:5). "And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth." (Hebrews 7: ."For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law." (Hebrews 7:12). So men that are dying are still collecting tith in the new covanant? |
Logicboy03: You copied this argument(headlamp analogy) from an apologist website. The problem is that you cant see the flaw in your copy and paste.*sigh* west of time. Try science/engineering in your next degree if possible. |
maclatunji: We have told you the definition of Islam and I simply pointed out to you with a simple analogy that your insistence on the previous prophets (AS) speaking Arabic or calling their submission to the will of God "Islam" is illogical. I have said I intend to answer your questions that I find worthwhile later. You need to open your mind more for there's no argument you bring that cannot be debunked but I may choose to ignore it for I am an extremely busy person. Forget that I play on Nairaland.why then did you abandon all your busy schedule to open a thread like this and will not answer a simple rational question that are begging for answers? If you will answer the question later why was there a need for the analogy you used to explain away the question as baseless? (muhamad ali/casius clay) *sigh* |
[quote author=Lord_Reed]If God created a religion and reveal it's name to be islam to Mohammed how is it that He did not call it islam to Noah and the rest? Why is it never mentioned anywhere else apart from in the Quran? Simple question: if islam existed from the beginning what form where people practicing it because they sure didn't say they where practicing islam. Which other religion has similar mode of worship to islam? Isn't it funny that a so called universal religion cannot be recognised even though it's supposed prophets all left well documented legacies? How is it the Torah and others are so different in tone from the Quran? Why are the differences so significantly different that we can not see the universality of it? Answer these questions without attaching sentiments, don't get hot and bothered.[/quote]i have not yet seen any rational answers to this begging questions. |
maclatunji: It would be called a sacrilege in Nigeria. Just name him Jesus.You would learn there's a difference between Jesus and Joshua.the word jesus is just a name like any other name. The biggy about his name is christ = anointed one = messaiah. There are other named Jesus in the bible. |
Logicboy03: Maclatrunji,guy, was this an omission or an addition to his name? Macla"Tru"nji = Tru = Troll. Lol. |
@Anony pls, am still waiting and hoping that you will attempt an explanation to this scriptures at Isaiah : "Let (though) favour be shewed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD." (Isaiah 26:10). & "There shall be no more thence an infant of days,(no child dying prematurely) nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed." (Isaiah 65:20). 1. Can you help me to show me how a person that is though a 100yrs old will die as a mere boy? 2. Where do you think is the land of straith forwardness that the unrighteous will be shown mercy? Is this scripture not in the bible? If you closely look at that scripture it will reveal a lot of things to you and others. "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased." (Daniel 12:4). "But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:" (1 Corinthians 2:7). The bible information is not contain like in a TEXT book. Compare that with what will happened when satan is release after the 1000yrs imprisonment below: "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom(killed) is as the sand of the sea." (Revelation 20:7- .^^^ compare that Revelation with this Isaiah below: "Let (though) favour be shewed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD." (Isaiah 26:10). During the 1000yrs judgement "day" the unrighteose resurectected ones will be given an opportunity(shown mercy) but most of them will not make full use of it and will act unjustly still and will have to be kill befor christ hand over rulership over to God (Yahweh), so, they will not see the majesty of God. "And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all." (1 Corinthians 15:28). Peace. |
Logicboy03: https://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcasusRKCS1qf7r8q.gifsorry boy. You made no sense in that. The moon reflect the light from the sun to the earth when the sun is facing other parts of planet earth. So, the reflected light from the sun illuminaty other part of the earth that the sun is not reaching at night without heat. If we have two source of light like the sun with their "heat", one day and one night or if the sun's light/heat was not periodical the life on planet earth will die off due to excess heat. If the light at night when the planet is having a break from the heat of the sun was hot the result will be the same, life will die off due to excess heat and planet earth will be a wilderness like the other planets that are either too close to the sun or too far away. The moon with the perfect reflective surfaces at the right angle reflects the light from the sun to the earth without "HEAT" at night. Like an head lamp, the: bulb, light source = sun reflectors of light = moon. |
Joagbaje: This is not about what a pastor say. But rather what the bible says . There was never a place where God put an end to tithing . Tithes and offering are for ever .you know you are lying and you will keep on lying because of your greed that has kept you were you find yourself. Imagined telling your congregation that all the tith money you have collected from them all along is a mistake ![]() To you, this is impossible that is why you are here consolling your self. But will this help you when the judge of the univers arrives? |
Ubenedictus: are u thru? Now tell me wu was Jesus talking to wen he said "i will give u d keys" was he talking to himself?this was a new sentence. |
Ubenedictus: u only provided a quote that says ONE LETTER should be shared with laodiceans and ANOTHER shuld b taken frm d loadiceans. U have failed to show me that all the letter of paul was present in all congregation. U just have one passage i expect one passage per letter as proof dat all congregation had all letter.Rubbish!!! |
Ubenedictus: hahahaha, one reason y nobody shuld take u serious.i ask again, what is the value of this comment? Dont you have any treasure from your store house to give out? Must you comment? *sigh* |
Ubenedictus: hahaha, now i must laugh in greek, frosbel u are too superstitious that is ur problem, if ur kid draws a triangle u will rebuke him because that is illuminati and if he draws d 4 cardinal point u will scream babylonian mystery!!! Oh lord how i love u!!! If i wrote comic books i would write one on frosbel.of what use is this comment? Watering down valuable comment with pranks. |
plaetton: Ho ho Ho.find out, he may be a catholic. Their God is a mystery. ![]() |
Logicboy03: Reflector or reflection is not a light. The moon is not a light. The moon only reflects light. It would be like saying a mirror is a light!your car head lamp is not a light/lamp bemuse it is only reflecting light from the source. Kid ! |
Kay 17: Whenever I think about the personality of the Judeo Christian God, I feel the awe of his impressive and superpowerful being. An omniscient, omnipotent, all great, self sufficient, selfexistent, perfect being. And he is accepted by most as the best explanation for the world.coming from you, it should be viewed with scepticism. Care to expound on what you have in mind? Infact, you can just go on and on and let us keep on reading to know what you are saying. Who knows what? ![]() |
Zikkyy: You think this is Iran abi?supported. Maybe he feeds fat from tith money at the expense of the sheeple. *sigh* |
wizzmc: some people do no better thing with their membership profile than to castigate, criticize and speak ill of men of God. Don't you know it is absolutely wrong for you to open your mouth to speak (or use your fingers to type ) anyhow about men of God.from this ^^^ i can deduce that you have already done the judgement for God that they have been approved by the almighty God. Can you give us the evidence for this your conclusion? Did you arrived at that because he carries a bible? |
your problem has alot to do with explaining the scriptures you quoted. Image123: What is man? Man is created in the image of God. He is made a little lower than God. Made with spirit, soul and body. When man dies, he is separated i.e his spirit, soul and body are separated.this two scriptures below you quoted to support you statement do they agree with what you said up there? Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. this scripture has nothing to do with your teaching of immortal soul. Since all the dead will rise in the resurection it is only showing that we should not be afraid of temporary death that human can cause since God can and will gives us our life back during the resurection of all the dead. John 5:28,29 & "Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. His Spirit went into God's hands but His body went to the grave" ^^^ Now you can see that Jesus is talking about that spirit and not the soul that you said will leave the body. the soul was not mention by Jesus. Because the man is the soul and the soul(being the man) can not remain alife without the spirit i cannot west my time with the rest of this your post because this your argument that cannot go straith with the bible is not good, it is not going straight for you. |
"Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. "And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all." (1 Corinthians 15:24-28 ^^^ this scriptures clearly shows the arrangement of things during the 1000yrs of christ rule. But clearly shows that the last to be destroyd in the order of things that are being destroyed or that will be no more after the 1000yrs of christ is: "till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death" (verse 25,26) it is very clearly written that the last thing to be destroyd is death. |
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Boomark: When you come to me i will show you my Mum and Dad so that you wount call me bastard again before i loose my temperature.na way for you o! Dont you know that a slave should be in fear/respect its master? |
Logicboy03: The bible is also from the mother churchin the instance you dont know, Thats ^^^ a lie. The books of the bible is not RCC's. They have always existed befor they were brought together. |
Logicboy03: It is your own God that is a fool. He said that the moon is a light.are you still deceiving your self here because you are ignorant of what reflective light is? |
[quote author=Mr_Anony]The above is a good example of quoting the word of God out of context. You first developed your theory then cut and joined verses to form your collage. Lol, another example of selective interpretation. What did God say He didn't command them to do Jer 7:31? What exactly was it that was repulsive to God here? Was it the actual burning or was it the human sacrifice? mind before this time, God had already destroyed Sodom and Gomorrha with fire (Gen 19:24) and also consummed soldiers with fire at the command of Elijah(2Kings 1:9-12)[/quote]so, this below was a plan in the mind of God like the sons of Israel burning their children in the fire, or it was Elijah's request? "Then the king sent unto him a captain of fifty with his fifty. And he went up to him: and, behold, he sat on the top of an hill. And he spake unto him, Thou man of God, the king hath said, Come down. And Elijah answered and said to the captain of fifty, If I be a man of God, then let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And there came down fire from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty. "Again also he sent unto him another captain of fifty with his fifty. And he answered and said unto him, O man of God, thus hath the king said, Come down quickly. And Elijah answered and said unto them, If I be a man of God, let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And the fire of God came down from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty." (2 Kings 1:9-12). The truth is, Elijah made this request and not the plan of God. And the incident of sodom and Gomorah is now a body of fire that resemble the body of fire that the sons of Israel were throwing there children into? I thought it is written that it "rained" brimstone and fire? = "rained" (as brimstone and fire as stones) "Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;" (Genesis 19:24). Does that sounds like the body of fire that the sons of Israel through there children into? Dont forget that the "lake of fire" is a body of fire like a lake of water. And the fire that the sons of Israel threw their children into was a body of fire like a "lake of fire" and was outside the wall of Jerusalem. Such kind burning of people in a "lake of fire", God said that he has never commanded and that it has never came up into his hearth. The lake of fire of Rev. 20:14 is the second death and is not a literal fire but rather it is a symbolic fire that means the second death as the bible said. |
@Anony well, you have tried in deed in this debate, but there is something you are dong that is not the best approach. If someone should quote a scripture that you feel does not follow, what do you thing is the best way to handle it/correct it? Is it not to point out what you feel is wrong and show from the scriptures the incosistencies? Yes, that should be the way forward. See what Isaiah says in the scriptures below, what do you think he is talking about? "Let (though) favour be shewed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD." (Isaiah 26:10). & "There shall be no more thence an infant of days,(no child dying prematurely) nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed." (Isaiah 65:20). 1. Can you help me to show me how a person that is though a 100yrs old will die as a mere boy? 2. Where do you think is the land of straith forwardness that the unrighteous will be shown mercy? You avoided this post below and i dont know why, can you address it? truthislight: at this point the Adamic death will be no more as all those that died the Adamic death that is not a death by God had come out. John 5:28,29.pls, am waiting. Thanks. |
[quote author=Mr_Anony]I was reading through your response a second time and I wanted to single out this bit since it is your main point......and so that we don't keep arguing in circles. You say that eternal fire is not literal fire - I agree that it doesn't have to be literal fire. You say that it is a symbol of complete destruction - I agree though we are not quite agreed on what the nature of that destruction is. You list those thrown into the lake of fire - I say let us look at what the bible says will happen to them. (Mind you, I hold that the lake of fire means destruction, I am only pointing at what this destruction really means for them.) Satan (person) - tormented forever (Rev 20:10) Demons (persons) - I couldn't find an explicit verse but from Matthew 25:41 we can deduce they'll be tormented forever just like the devil. Death (abstract) - We are not told explicitly what happens to death in the lake but we can know from other verses that it is destroyed. Wrongdoers (persons) - tormented forever (Rev 14:9-11) Wild beast (abstract) - I don't know what this is but if you mean antichrist, then I hold that it is a person and will be tormented forever (Rev 20:10) Hades/grave (abstract) - We are also not told explicitly what happens to hades but we can also know from other verses that it is destroyed. Notice that whenever persons are involved, the bible takes it's time to emphasize on the torment. Please don't overlook this.[/quote][quote author=Mr_Anony]You say that eternal fire is not literal fire - I agree that it doesn't have to be literal fire.[/quote]^^^ you earn valuable point for making this debate worth the effort, your reasoning really makes one to go down into the bible. [quote author=Mr_Anony]You say that it is a symbol of complete destruction - I agree though we are not quite agreed on what the nature of that destruction is.[/quote]without this differentiation in the bible we will not have known the difference between a death due to Adams death and a death due to God's wrath. We will class all death to be similar, meanwhile we are told to be in fear of the one that can kill one completely. [quote author=Mr_Anony]Satan (person) - tormented forever (Rev 20:10) Demons (persons) - I couldn't find an explicit verse but from Matthew 25:41 we can deduce they'll be tormented forever just like the devil. Death (abstract) - We are not told explicitly what happens to death in the lake but we can know from other verses that it is destroyed.[/quote]those things ^^^ an't have material body to be burnt in literal fire. [quote author=Mr_Anony]Wild beast[/quote]wild beast means human political Government under satans rulership. It will be destroyed forever. [quote author=Mr_Anony]Notice that whenever persons are involved, the bible takes it's time to emphasize on the torment.[/quote]this have material body but are also thrown into the same fire with those abstract entities. Meaning they will all be removed for ever out of existance. Peace |
Logicboy03: lol.......stop spinning!yea, i see, you stop stop take cocaine through your mouth since the law narcotics agents were after you. But since you stopped taking it from ur mouth but take it through tranfusion they dont bother you again because through transfusion you are not really taking the hard drug. Smart guy, keep it up! |
Logicboy03: Adam and Eve is a lie. There are no talking snakes and we evolved from a common ancestor with monkeys ![]() ![]() ![]() |
firestar: From Babel? Are you kidding?i need some refreshers. Havant quite gotten the drift. (mean that Hmmm = confusion ?) |
firestar: Groans....Not another one!lol. What! You dont want another one? Lol. |
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